B12

[Guest guest]

http://www.nmdhb.govt.nz/publisheddocs/clinicalcare/vVitaminB12veganpaper1005.pdf

I found

this which has proved useful in providing information.

Alice J

[Guest guest]

Hi Clare,

I’ve don’t

take the supplement for B12, but for Iron. They add the other vitamins to

assist with Iron absorption. But being vegetarian and pregnant and

breastfeeding, I wanted to make sure that it was not going to be harmful to me

or baby.

I know what you are

saying about the order of ingredients, although sometimes the most potent

things are in the smallest quantities – in a cake for example you might

have flour up the front and vanilla essence at the bottom… but you don’t

need much vanilla essence to make a big impact.

I’ve recently started

eating eggs, as a way of getting more B12 in my diet. I don’t have

any symptoms of low B12, so I must have been getting it from somewhere all

these years! But now being on my 3rd pregnancy I want to make

sure I’ve got enough and that it’s the right sort.

Thanks for your response.

Alice J

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of clare mcconville -

harris

Thursday, 20 December 2007

10:13 am

 

Re:

B12

 

 

 

 

 

 

just curious Alice...... my reading of labels has

always taught me that the percentage = highest -v- lowest is shown by the place

it takes in the list.... so after cheching up on the supplement you have been

taking containing added B12....... the B12 is almost the last

ingredient in the mixture....... not a great deal of B12 being consumed

with this product me thinks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ingredients:

Aqueous extract (54%) from:

Carrots, Nettles, Spinach, Quitch Roots, Angelica Roots, Fennel, Ocean Kelp,

African Mallow Blossom, Orange Peel.

 

Mixture of fruit juice concentrates (29.4%)

Pear, grape juice concentrate, blackcurrant juice, water, blackberry, cherry,

orange, red beet, lemon juice concentrate, carob extract, apple juice

concentrate.

 

Honey, Aqueous rosehip soft extract containing 4% vitamin C, Iron (as ferrous

gluconate), Wheat Germ Extract, Yeast Extract, Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid),

Natural flavours, Thiamin (as Thiamine HCI), Riboflavin (as Riboflavin Sodium

Phosphate), Vitamin B6 (as Pyridoxine HCI), Vitamin B12, Maltodextrin

 

 

http://www.salusuk.com/products/floradix.html

 

 

also it should be possible to ask the manufacturer which

type of b12 is in their product.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good Luck.....

 

 

'import' my B12 from LEF... it is the sublingual 'methyl'

type

 

 

 

 

 

Clare in Tassie

[Guest guest]

Thanks Bill,

That’s really

interesting and goes a long way to alleviating my fears and enlightening me on

B12 science.

Thanks,

Alice J

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Bill Kingsbury

Thursday, 20 December 2007

4:17 pm

 

Re:

B12

 

 

 

 

 

 

This source claims B12 analogues are not necessarily a problem

(for healthy, normal people). (There are very rare diseases

where even 'real' B12 cannot be properly metabolized.)

 

--- excerpt from:

http://www.cyanotech.com/pdfs/spirulina/spbul52.PDF

 

 

" Studies

of normal patients with no stores of cobalamin have shown that only 1 microgram

per day is required to quickly reverse early pernicious anemia. A

dramatic increase in young red blood cells and reticulocytes and a rise to

normal hemoglobin and hematocrit was observed within days. The minimum

daily requirement (MDR) for cobalamin appears to be even lower, 0.2-0.25

micrograms per day absorbed from food is adequate for normal people (Herbert

1987). It has been found that a significant percentage of the activity in

'B-12 enriched' foods are inactive analogs. Hamburger, cottage cheese and

boiled eggs averaged about 10% analogs while milk products (whole, evaporated,

nonfat) averaged about 30%, whereas nearly 100% is inactive from tempeh.

A typical 'VA lunch' consisting of potato soup, cottage cheese, lettuce,

peaches, crackers, butter and milk was analyzed and found to contain 40%

inactive analogs (Herbert 1984b). This is not a problem for normal

people, as it has been established that inactive B-12 analogs exist in human

liver, red blood cells, brain and mineral and vitamin supplements (Kanazawa

1983;Herbert 1982). Normal humans are able to discriminate between the

active and non-active forms as both have always been in nature and in

foods. "

 

 

You can find more references here:

 

Google: B12 ANALOGUES BLOCK >>

http://www.google.com/search?q=B12+ANALOGUES+BLOCK

 

 

Bill