Who is Coming to Dinner at Susan Davis' Table?

[Guest guest]

Can you believe?~~Flo

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"...the citizen who thinks he sees that the commonwealth's political clothes are worn out, and yet holds his peace and does not agitate for a new suit, is disloyal; he is a traitor." - Mark Twain

 

Florence,

 

California Congresswoman Susan Davis has introduced a new bill into the US House of Representatives that could hurt you and your loved ones. Bill HR 3156 gives the FDA astonishing power to remove nutrients from the market if there is ANY risk associated with their use.

 

HR 3156 allows nutrients to be removed from the marketplace even if no harm has been caused by them and despite any benefit they may provide to consumers!

 

It sets up a wildly non-level playing field by creating an Adverse Events reporting requirement for nutrients (which are known to be astonishingly safe and free of risk or complication) while there is no such reporting requirement or system for pharmaceuticals (which are the 3rd leading cause of death in the US when used according to instructions).

 

And the bill would cost an estimated $5 million per year. You are supposed to pay for a bill that could remove your supplements not only with your tax dollars, but also by giving up your health rights provided by the Dietary Supplements Health and Education Act (DSHEA) passed by unanimous consent by Congress in 1994!

 

DSHEA classifies nutritional supplements as food, and thus prevents the implementation of upper limits on nutrients. DSHEA is the key legislation that safeguards health freedom and access to natural health products.

 

HR 3156 would destroy DSHEA.

 

Is HR 3156 Timed to Coincide With Passing of CODEX ALIMENTARIUS Vitamin and Mineral Guideline?

 

HR 3156 specifically excludes vitamins and minerals from the things it covers.

 

Why?

 

Because just a few days after Susan introduced HR 3156 into the House, the CODEX Vitamin and Mineral Guideline was due to be passed. So there was no need to fuss with them: it was already a done deal thanks to the CODEX Vitamin and Mineral Guideline.

 

There is a vast body of biochemistry and nutritional literature that makes it clear what the health consequences of passing HR 3156 are (ask me for references by sending me an email).

 

Consequences of Susan Davis’ HR 3156 for Your Health

 

If allowed to become law in the US, HR 3156 would allow the elimination of nutrients from the marketplace, which would:

 

 

Shorten your lifespan and that of your children and parents

Increase your likelihood of developing cancer

Increase your likelihood of developing diabetes

Increase your likelihood of developing Parkinson's disease

Increase your likelihood of developing Alzheimer's disease

Increase your likelihood of developing potentially lethal allergies

Increase your likelihood of developing osteoporosis

Increase your likelihood of developing macular degeneration and

Increase your likelihood of developing and dying from chronic disease

 

Contact Your Congressional Delegation and Tell Them to Oppose HR 3156

 

As shown by the list above, HR 3156 is not in the best interest of the people of America. The first order of action for any health conscious person like yourself is to contact your Congressional Delegation now and make sure that they understand that voting for this tyrannical bill will mean the end of their political career. And, by the way, this atrocity also needs to signal the end the careers of its co-sponsors: Waxman of California and Dingell of Michigan.

 

It's important to learn about destructive bills like HR 3156 and to know who the people behind them are. An armed citizenry is the best defense against tyranny. So let’s get down to some education.

 

Why I Believe Susan Davis is Seeking to Destroy DSHEA With HR 3156

Whose business is Ms Davis minding? Whom is she serving at her table? Obviously not you and I. Let me explain. Keep in mind that HRF 3156 would destroy the natural health product-supporting DSHEA.

 

HR 3156 would destroy DSHEA, and Susan Davis must know this. But who is Susan Davis? Who is the woman behind HR 3156? Let's find out.

 

Davis was elected to the US House of Representatives from California's 53rd District. She has been involved in public service for years, first in her lovely hometown of San Diego and then as a member of the California State Assembly.

 

Here is what the official Davis web site has to say about Susan:

 

Susan's interest in public affairs grew out of her experiences as a social worker, parent, youth mentor, and military spouse. Growing up, Susan remembered her father, a pediatrician, sometimes leaving the house in the middle of the night to care for his young patients. Through these life experiences, Susan developed an understanding of and deep commitment to improving her community and country.

 

Born in Cambridge, Massachusetts, Susan grew up in Richmond, California. She graduated from the University of California at Berkeley with a degree in sociology. She then earned a master's degree in social work from the University of North Carolina.

 

After graduation, Susan and her husband, Steve, lived in Japan with their two children, Jeffery and Benjamin, while Steve served as a doctor in the Air Force during the Vietnam War.

 

Residents of San Diego since 1972, Susan and Steve have been married for 38 years. They have two grandchildren, Henry and Jane.

 

Altogether, Susan Davis sounds like a nice lady with a public spirit and a devotion to doing the right thing, doesn't she? And, for all I know, maybe she is. Maybe on the private levels she is a terrific mom and grandmother and, for all I know, grows beautiful roses and gives great dinner parties, too.

 

So here we have a seeming nice lady with a long marriage and a public spirit serving her district in the House. So the issue is not whether Susan Davis is a nice person or not. The question that our health freedom hangs on due to Susan’s HR 3156 is: whose work is Susan doing?

 

Why would Susan (who understands the high personal cost of illness from her physician father and husband's professional lives) introduce a bill designed to gut DSHEA and result in increased human suffering as a result of loss of natural health products from the free market? After all, her bio says that she is interested in health. She is probably interested in the nutrition of her children and grand children, too.

 

But just whose health is Susan Davis protecting?

 

Why would her HR 3156 Bill get introduced into the House of Representatives on June 30, 2005, just days before the CODEX ALIMENTARIUS Commission was set to adopt the restrictive and pro-illness Vitamin and Mineral Guideline?

 

And why would that bill specifically exclude vitamins and minerals? If you're going to be regulating natural health products, isn't it a little bit odd to omit vitamins and minerals?

 

Well, let's see what sort of district Susan represents. In addition to the lovely Torrey Pines State Reserve, Sea World and Balboa Park, here's who lives in her neighborhood and who's coming to dinner at Susan's well-laid table:

 

The San Diego metropolitan area is a leader in biomedical research and development, with a significant concentration of research institutions and biotechnology firms - such as Salk Institute, Scripps Research Institute, and the University of California, San Diego.

 

There are more than 1,400 life scientists working in the region, three biological institutions granting life science PhDs. One of these institutions is ranked among the top 20 nationally in life sciences research.

 

The San Diego area has 33 publicly traded biotech companies and includes 31 firms with more than 100 employees. Sixty-one of these firms are members of the national Biotechnology Industry Association.

 

Wow! Susan’s district seems to be swarmed with pharmaceutical and biotechnology firms. Exactly the kind of companies that are behind CODEX ALIMENTARIUS and the attack on natural health!

 

According to ColorBasePair, there are 72 pharmaceutical firms in lovely San Diego, 11 more in nearby La Jolla, and that's just for starters! So Susan's table is serving up a royal feast for Big Pharma. All of these are in Susan Davis’ district!

 

Can you guess whose health she's taking care of?

 

The pharmaceutical and biotechnology industries.

 

Why Big Pharma Is So Worried About Natural Health Products and Treatments

 

Big Pharma is, contrary to popular belief, not in the business of keeping you or your loved ones truly healthy. Pharmaceutical dr*gs are useful in covering up symptoms of disease, but they do not actually cure anything at the root. In fact, as shown by the Vio *x scandal, dru*s can often produce further health problems with their side-effects.

 

Although much of the raw materials for your nutritional supplements are produced by Big Pharma or its subsidiaries (and often distributed by them, too), all that nutrition stuff is bad for the business of multi-national drug-making, because it can solve health problems at the root. Solving health problems at the root would make pharmaceuticals to cover symptoms unnecessary.

 

Scientific literature and clinical experience, as well as common sense, offer clear evidence that when people have ample levels of nutrients they simply do not develop the chronic, degenerative diseases which are the result of long-term toxicity (from our polluted air, water, and food) and under-nutrition.

 

Without disease, people do not seek drugs.

 

Chronic degenerative diseases are where the money is for the pharmaceutical industry.

 

As is often the case, follow the money.

 

Macular Degeneration as Excellent Exampleof Disease Profiteering Instead of Curing

 

Take macular degeneration (MD), for example. When I graduated from Medical School in 1970, by definition MD never afflicted anyone younger than 60 and was very rare in people under 65. Besides, MD was pretty uncommon in the population at large.

 

Today, we have an epidemic of MD, making it the leading cause of blindness in the US.

 

I have personally seen a family in which an 18 year old daughter and their 21 year old son had both lost their sight to MD!

 

It has become commonplace in people in their 40's and is often seen in 30 year olds.

 

Why this epidemic of Macular Degeneration in only a few decades? How come when I was in Medical School in the 60s, I did not come across Macular Degeneration?

 

Very simple:

 

MD has become so common due to chronic under-nutrition leading to cellular degeneration. The vicious cycle of cellular degeneration kicks in because the body lacks the nutritional tools to correct the degeneration, and the state of the cells deteriorates until a critical point is reached where the damage is far gone. Damage accumulates and one more blind victim of nutritional scarcity struggles to get through life in the dark.

 

You may say "food in our society is plenty" so how can there be under-nutrition?

 

Most of what passes for food is industrially processed and has no semblance to nutritious food. Most vitamins and minerals have been stripped from food to prevent spoilage on store shelves. There are all sorts of chemical additives for flavor as well as preservation. Thus, in terms of nutritional content, our food is literally starving our cells even as we get bigger and bigger at the waist line.

 

Now, as for all other diseases of chronic under-nutrition, there have been pharmaceutical dru*s developed for Macular Degeneration. They don't work particularly well and they are VERY expensive, but there they are. And more are in the pipeline.

 

If Macular Degeneration was cured through nutritional medicine, if the causes of this epidemic were addressed and solved at the root, would there be an opportunity for the drug companies to sell their drugs?

 

The answer is no. Big pharma depends on disease.

 

Nutrients that Cure Throw a Monkey Wrench into the Business Model of Big Pharma

If you are a pharmaceutical company and you are going to spend the better part of a billion dollars developing a drug for something (say Macular Degeneration) and getting it approved for market, don't you want a lot of that something around so you can sell a lot of your drug?

 

Yes you would.

 

Here is the logic of the pharmaceutical business model:

 

1. "Selling drugs is our business."

2. "We make massive money from our business."

3. "Healthy people don't need drugs."

4. "Nutrients make and keep people healthy."

5. "Nutrients are bad for business."

6. "Let's get rid of nutrients."

 

Or, in more practical terms: let’s make sure that CODEX ALIMENTARIUS supports our business worldwide by eliminating nutritional products and treatments. And, then let's go have dinner at Susan's table!

 

When Susan Davis proposes a bill that would allow haphazard removal of nutritional supplements from the market, it appears that she is serving no one but those sitting around her table.

 

What Should Supporters of NaturalHealth Products Do About HR 3156?

 

We need to make sure that HR 3156 does not get passed. Protect DSHEA and tell Congress that you take this issue seriously enough to make sure that health defenders will go back to Congress and Big Pharma friends will not be re-elected.

Please take action now and send this quick letter to Congress about Susan's HR 3156. Sending the letter is very easy and takes only a minute or two. Click below:

http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/new-letter

 

I wish to tell you, Florence, that I am delighted that you have chosen to to our mailing list. It's a good decision. Now you will remain comfortably in the loop about the latest news on health freedom. And you'll be updated about important emergency calls to action to protect yourself and your family from tyrannical measures. Emergency calls to action like Susan Davis’ HR 3156.

 

So send that letter to your Congressional Delegation now and let us continue working together to defend health freedom. And please tell everyone you know to do the same. Simply send them to the link above (ending with “new-letter”) and tell them that HR 3156 would destroy existing American law (DSHEA) and jeopardize access to natural health products.

 

Wishing you a great weekend.

 

Yours in Health and Freedom (from Rome),

 

Rima E. Laibow, MD Medical Director Natural Solutions Foundation rima.laibow http://www.healthfreedomusa.org

 

P.S. General Stubblebine (my husband) and I will be heading home today from Rome after spending a couple of weeks there to observe the CODEX ALIMENTARIUS Commission (CAC) meeting. We'll send you a full report with our observations next week.

 

 

 

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Yea, I got sent that in an email yesterday. As if Codex wouldn't be bad enough. What next? This really does have me concerned.Flo <fgarig wrote:

 

Can you believe?~~Flo

----------------------------

 

 

 

"...the citizen who thinks he sees that the commonwealth's political clothes are worn out, and yet holds his peace and does not agitate for a new suit, is disloyal; he is a traitor." - Mark Twain

 

Florence,

 

California Congresswoman Susan Davis has introduced a new bill into the US House of Representatives that could hurt you and your loved ones. Bill HR 3156 gives the FDA astonishing power to remove nutrients from the market if there is ANY risk associated with their use.

 

HR 3156 allows nutrients to be removed from the marketplace even if no harm has been caused by them and despite any benefit they may provide to consumers!

 

It sets up a wildly non-level playing field by creating an Adverse Events reporting requirement for nutrients (which are known to be astonishingly safe and free of risk or complication) while there is no such reporting requirement or system for pharmaceuticals (which are the 3rd leading cause of death in the US when used according to instructions).

 

And the bill would cost an estimated $5 million per year. You are supposed to pay for a bill that could remove your supplements not only with your tax dollars, but also by giving up your health rights provided by the Dietary Supplements Health and Education Act (DSHEA) passed by unanimous consent by Congress in 1994!

 

DSHEA classifies nutritional supplements as food, and thus prevents the implementation of upper limits on nutrients. DSHEA is the key legislation that safeguards health freedom and access to natural health products.

 

HR 3156 would destroy DSHEA.

 

Is HR 3156 Timed to Coincide With Passing of CODEX ALIMENTARIUS Vitamin and Mineral Guideline?

 

HR 3156 specifically excludes vitamins and minerals from the things it covers.

 

Why?

 

Because just a few days after Susan introduced HR 3156 into the House, the CODEX Vitamin and Mineral Guideline was due to be passed. So there was no need to fuss with them: it was already a done deal thanks to the CODEX Vitamin and Mineral Guideline.

 

There is a vast body of biochemistry and nutritional literature that makes it clear what the health consequences of passing HR 3156 are (ask me for references by sending me an email).

 

Consequences of Susan Davis’ HR 3156 for Your Health

 

If allowed to become law in the US, HR 3156 would allow the elimination of nutrients from the marketplace, which would:

 

 

Shorten your lifespan and that of your children and parents Increase your likelihood of developing cancer Increase your likelihood of developing diabetes Increase your likelihood of developing Parkinson's disease Increase your likelihood of developing Alzheimer's disease Increase your likelihood of developing potentially lethal allergies Increase your likelihood of developing osteoporosis Increase your likelihood of developing macular degeneration and Increase your likelihood of developing and dying from chronic disease

 

Contact Your Congressional Delegation and Tell Them to Oppose HR 3156

 

As shown by the list above, HR 3156 is not in the best interest of the people of America. The first order of action for any health conscious person like yourself is to contact your Congressional Delegation now and make sure that they understand that voting for this tyrannical bill will mean the end of their political career. And, by the way, this atrocity also needs to signal the end the careers of its co-sponsors: Waxman of California and Dingell of Michigan.

 

It's important to learn about destructive bills like HR 3156 and to know who the people behind them are. An armed citizenry is the best defense against tyranny. So let’s get down to some education.

 

Why I Believe Susan Davis is Seeking to Destroy DSHEA With HR 3156

Whose business is Ms Davis minding? Whom is she serving at her table? Obviously not you and I. Let me explain. Keep in mind that HRF 3156 would destroy the natural health product-supporting DSHEA.

 

HR 3156 would destroy DSHEA, and Susan Davis must know this. But who is Susan Davis? Who is the woman behind HR 3156? Let's find out.

 

Davis was elected to the US House of Representatives from California's 53rd District. She has been involved in public service for years, first in her lovely hometown of San Diego and then as a member of the California State Assembly.

 

Here is what the official Davis web site has to say about Susan:

 

Susan's interest in public affairs grew out of her experiences as a social worker, parent, youth mentor, and military spouse. Growing up, Susan remembered her father, a pediatrician, sometimes leaving the house in the middle of the night to care for his young patients. Through these life experiences, Susan developed an understanding of and deep commitment to improving her community and country.

 

Born in Cambridge, Massachusetts, Susan grew up in Richmond, California. She graduated from the University of California at Berkeley with a degree in sociology. She then earned a master's degree in social work from the University of North Carolina.

 

After graduation, Susan and her husband, Steve, lived in Japan with their two children, Jeffery and Benjamin, while Steve served as a doctor in the Air Force during the Vietnam War.

 

Residents of San Diego since 1972, Susan and Steve have been married for 38 years. They have two grandchildren, Henry and Jane.

 

Altogether, Susan Davis sounds like a nice lady with a public spirit and a devotion to doing the right thing, doesn't she? And, for all I know, maybe she is. Maybe on the private levels she is a terrific mom and grandmother and, for all I know, grows beautiful roses and gives great dinner parties, too.

 

So here we have a seeming nice lady with a long marriage and a public spirit serving her district in the House. So the issue is not whether Susan Davis is a nice person or not. The question that our health freedom hangs on due to Susan’s HR 3156 is: whose work is Susan doing?

 

Why would Susan (who understands the high personal cost of illness from her physician father and husband's professional lives) introduce a bill designed to gut DSHEA and result in increased human suffering as a result of loss of natural health products from the free market? After all, her bio says that she is interested in health. She is probably interested in the nutrition of her children and grand children, too.

 

But just whose health is Susan Davis protecting?

 

Why would her HR 3156 Bill get introduced into the House of Representatives on June 30, 2005, just days before the CODEX ALIMENTARIUS Commission was set to adopt the restrictive and pro-illness Vitamin and Mineral Guideline?

 

And why would that bill specifically exclude vitamins and minerals? If you're going to be regulating natural health products, isn't it a little bit odd to omit vitamins and minerals?

 

Well, let's see what sort of district Susan represents. In addition to the lovely Torrey Pines State Reserve, Sea World and Balboa Park, here's who lives in her neighborhood and who's coming to dinner at Susan's well-laid table:

 

The San Diego metropolitan area is a leader in biomedical research and development, with a significant concentration of research institutions and biotechnology firms - such as Salk Institute, Scripps Research Institute, and the University of California, San Diego.

 

There are more than 1,400 life scientists working in the region, three biological institutions granting life science PhDs. One of these institutions is ranked among the top 20 nationally in life sciences research.

 

The San Diego area has 33 publicly traded biotech companies and includes 31 firms with more than 100 employees. Sixty-one of these firms are members of the national Biotechnology Industry Association.

 

Wow! Susan’s district seems to be swarmed with pharmaceutical and biotechnology firms. Exactly the kind of companies that are behind CODEX ALIMENTARIUS and the attack on natural health!

 

According to ColorBasePair, there are 72 pharmaceutical firms in lovely San Diego, 11 more in nearby La Jolla, and that's just for starters! So Susan's table is serving up a royal feast for Big Pharma. All of these are in Susan Davis’ district!

 

Can you guess whose health she's taking care of?

 

The pharmaceutical and biotechnology industries.

 

Why Big Pharma Is So Worried About Natural Health Products and Treatments

 

Big Pharma is, contrary to popular belief, not in the business of keeping you or your loved ones truly healthy. Pharmaceutical dr*gs are useful in covering up symptoms of disease, but they do not actually cure anything at the root. In fact, as shown by the Vio *x scandal, dru*s can often produce further health problems with their side-effects.

 

Although much of the raw materials for your nutritional supplements are produced by Big Pharma or its subsidiaries (and often distributed by them, too), all that nutrition stuff is bad for the business of multi-national drug-making, because it can solve health problems at the root. Solving health problems at the root would make pharmaceuticals to cover symptoms unnecessary.

 

Scientific literature and clinical experience, as well as common sense, offer clear evidence that when people have ample levels of nutrients they simply do not develop the chronic, degenerative diseases which are the result of long-term toxicity (from our polluted air, water, and food) and under-nutrition.

 

Without disease, people do not seek drugs.

 

Chronic degenerative diseases are where the money is for the pharmaceutical industry.

 

As is often the case, follow the money.

 

Macular Degeneration as Excellent Exampleof Disease Profiteering Instead of Curing

 

Take macular degeneration (MD), for example. When I graduated from Medical School in 1970, by definition MD never afflicted anyone younger than 60 and was very rare in people under 65. Besides, MD was pretty uncommon in the population at large.

 

Today, we have an epidemic of MD, making it the leading cause of blindness in the US.

 

I have personally seen a family in which an 18 year old daughter and their 21 year old son had both lost their sight to MD!

 

It has become commonplace in people in their 40's and is often seen in 30 year olds.

 

Why this epidemic of Macular Degeneration in only a few decades? How come when I was in Medical School in the 60s, I did not come across Macular Degeneration?

 

Very simple:

 

MD has become so common due to chronic under-nutrition leading to cellular degeneration. The vicious cycle of cellular degeneration kicks in because the body lacks the nutritional tools to correct the degeneration, and the state of the cells deteriorates until a critical point is reached where the damage is far gone. Damage accumulates and one more blind victim of nutritional scarcity struggles to get through life in the dark.

 

You may say "food in our society is plenty" so how can there be under-nutrition?

 

Most of what passes for food is industrially processed and has no semblance to nutritious food. Most vitamins and minerals have been stripped from food to prevent spoilage on store shelves. There are all sorts of chemical additives for flavor as well as preservation. Thus, in terms of nutritional content, our food is literally starving our cells even as we get bigger and bigger at the waist line.

 

Now, as for all other diseases of chronic under-nutrition, there have been pharmaceutical dru*s developed for Macular Degeneration. They don't work particularly well and they are VERY expensive, but there they are. And more are in the pipeline.

 

If Macular Degeneration was cured through nutritional medicine, if the causes of this epidemic were addressed and solved at the root, would there be an opportunity for the drug companies to sell their drugs?

 

The answer is no. Big pharma depends on disease.

 

Nutrients that Cure Throw a Monkey Wrench into the Business Model of Big Pharma

If you are a pharmaceutical company and you are going to spend the better part of a billion dollars developing a drug for something (say Macular Degeneration) and getting it approved for market, don't you want a lot of that something around so you can sell a lot of your drug?

 

Yes you would.

 

Here is the logic of the pharmaceutical business model:

 

1. "Selling drugs is our business."

2. "We make massive money from our business."

3. "Healthy people don't need drugs."

4. "Nutrients make and keep people healthy."

5. "Nutrients are bad for business."

6. "Let's get rid of nutrients."

 

Or, in more practical terms: let’s make sure that CODEX ALIMENTARIUS supports our business worldwide by eliminating nutritional products and treatments. And, then let's go have dinner at Susan's table!

 

When Susan Davis proposes a bill that would allow haphazard removal of nutritional supplements from the market, it appears that she is serving no one but those sitting around her table.

 

What Should Supporters of NaturalHealth Products Do About HR 3156?

 

We need to make sure that HR 3156 does not get passed. Protect DSHEA and tell Congress that you take this issue seriously enough to make sure that health defenders will go back to Congress and Big Pharma friends will not be re-elected.

Please take action now and send this quick letter to Congress about Susan's HR 3156. Sending the letter is very easy and takes only a minute or two. Click below:

http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/new-letter

 

I wish to tell you, Florence, that I am delighted that you have chosen to to our mailing list. It's a good decision. Now you will remain comfortably in the loop about the latest news on health freedom. And you'll be updated about important emergency calls to action to protect yourself and your family from tyrannical measures. Emergency calls to action like Susan Davis’ HR 3156.

 

So send that letter to your Congressional Delegation now and let us continue working together to defend health freedom. And please tell everyone you know to do the same. Simply send them to the link above (ending with “new-letter”) and tell them that HR 3156 would destroy existing American law (DSHEA) and jeopardize access to natural health products.

 

Wishing you a great weekend.

 

Yours in Health and Freedom (from Rome),

 

Rima E. Laibow, MD Medical Director Natural Solutions Foundation rima.laibow http://www.healthfreedomusa.org

 

P.S. General Stubblebine (my husband) and I will be heading home today from Rome after spending a couple of weeks there to observe the CODEX ALIMENTARIUS Commission (CAC) meeting. We'll send you a full report with our observations next week.

 

 

 

You've received this email because you d to Dr. Laibow's Codex Action Alert via HealthFreedomUSA.org or by email. We never send out unsolicited emails and we respect your privacy. Your email address will never be shared with a third party.

[Guest guest]

Laura, I am thinking we have become (are becoming) a communist state and we (many sheeple) just don't ever see it coming. They are so busy buying more stuff and bigger places to put more stuff. I think the USofA has gone literally stark raving mad. I also think it may be something in the water, kid not, like drugs...or can we really be this bad-off without drugs? Naaaa, don't answer that.

Flo

 

-

Laura Ditsch

 

Yea, I got sent that in an email yesterday. As if Codex wouldn't be bad enough. What next? This really does have me concerned.

[Guest guest]

It might just be something in the water. I shudder to think what else this fantastic govt. of ours is putting in it besides the chlorine and flouride.

 

Hugs,

LauraFlo <fgarig wrote:

 

Laura, I am thinking we have become (are becoming) a communist state and we (many sheeple) just don't ever see it coming. They are so busy buying more stuff and bigger places to put more stuff. I think the USofA has gone literally stark raving mad. I also think it may be something in the water, kid not, like drugs...or can we really be this bad-off without drugs? Naaaa, don't answer that.

Flo

 

-

Laura Ditsch

 

Yea, I got sent that in an email yesterday. As if Codex wouldn't be bad enough. What next? This really does have me concerned.

Start your day with - make it your home page

[Guest guest]

Sorry, couldn't help jumping in here, Unfortunately I have to agree

with the comment that we seemed to be heading for communism, or at

least socialism, have been for the past 30 years. I can't say I know

for sure about the water, but they are certainly experimenting with

what they can add to our food. Take MSG for example, if it were only

intended to be a flavor enhancer, which it is not, then could someone

tell me why I find it in my shampoos and body lotions as well? Sort of

a rhetorical question. I do know that once I started to monitor my

intake of just this one additive, my thinking became much clearer. Any

thoughts?

 

Terra

herbal remedies , " Flo " <fgarig@b...> wrote:

> Laura, I am thinking we have become (are becoming) a communist state

and we (many sheeple) just don't ever see it coming. They are so busy

buying more stuff and bigger places to put more stuff. I think the

USofA has gone literally stark raving mad. I also think it may be

something in the water, kid not, like drugs...or can we really be this

bad-off without drugs? Naaaa, don't answer that.

> Flo

> -

> Laura Ditsch

>

> Yea, I got sent that in an email yesterday. As if Codex wouldn't

be bad enough. What next? This really does have me concerned.

[Guest guest]

MSG? Shampoo? Really?

 

What the heck else can it be used for? I thought it was 'simply' a flavor enhancer. Enlighten me, pleeeaase.

Flo

 

-

tasm39 Take MSG for example, if it were only intended to be a flavor enhancer, which it is not, then could someone tell me why I find it in my shampoos and body lotions as well?

[Guest guest]

I really do believe that they (govt. pharm etc..) are trying to make us sick. This way we can be their customers for life and make them rich. This is why they pollute us with so much chemicals etc. This is why they are trying to bring Codex upon us to take away our rights to live naturally as nature intended for us. Imagine under Codex we may not see anymore Natural Food Stores, health food stores etc...and organic could become a thing of the past. I really hope that Codex does not pass and this does not come to be.

 

hugs,

Lauratasm39 <tasm39 wrote:

Sorry, couldn't help jumping in here, Unfortunately I have to agree with the comment that we seemed to be heading for communism, or at least socialism, have been for the past 30 years. I can't say I know for sure about the water, but they are certainly experimenting with what they can add to our food. Take MSG for example, if it were only intended to be a flavor enhancer, which it is not, then could someone tell me why I find it in my shampoos and body lotions as well? Sort of a rhetorical question. I do know that once I started to monitor my intake of just this one additive, my thinking became much clearer. Any thoughts?Terraherbal remedies , "Flo" <fgarig@b...> wrote:> Laura, I am thinking we have become (are becoming) a communist state and we (many sheeple) just don't ever see it coming. They

are so busy buying more stuff and bigger places to put more stuff. I think the USofA has gone literally stark raving mad. I also think it may be something in the water, kid not, like drugs...or can we really be this bad-off without drugs? Naaaa, don't answer that. > Flo> - > Laura Ditsch > > Yea, I got sent that in an email yesterday. As if Codex wouldn't be bad enough. What next? This really does have me concerned.

[Guest guest]

After some of the reading I have done recently I have a very

different picture of this country I live in.....hopefully the links

and books listed will give you a little more insight on MSG and what

they are doing to our food.

 

The Taste that Kills, by Dr. Russell L. Blaylock

This article should explain a little more.

http://perdurabo10.tripod.com/id812.html

Two books that are well worth reading that give more information:

FAST FOOD NATION, The darkside of the all American Meal, by Eric

Schlosser An excerpt from this book -

http://www.mcspotlight.org/media/press/mcds/theguardian0704011.html

Reclaiming Our Health by John Robbins, this book gets into the

politics of our medicine, where decisions are not made based on what

is best for us.

 

It was proven that a chemical used in the butter flavoring for a

microwave popcorn was the cause of several employees cancer, yet the

FDA and manufacturer both state that it was safe for consumer

consumption. So inhaling it will get you cancer, but they want us to

believe that ingesting it wouldn't be harmful?

 

http://www.rednova.com/news/science/51838/vapors_from_microwave_popco

rn_may_cause_cancer/

 

Terra

 

herbal remedies , " Flo " <fgarig@b...> wrote:

> MSG? Shampoo? Really?

>

> What the heck else can it be used for? I thought it was 'simply' a

flavor enhancer. Enlighten me, pleeeaase.

> Flo

> -

> tasm39

> Take MSG for example, if it were only

> intended to be a flavor enhancer, which it is not, then could

someone

> tell me why I find it in my shampoos and body lotions as well?

[Guest guest]

Hehe...

 

Jan here on this list and I know alot about chemicals and where they are.

 

This have been going on for ages, and people seems to not wake up and

see that do they eat that stuff, drink tap water, drink soda pops in

plastic bottles, they get diseases and/or cancer with time.

 

I was so frustrated about chemicals a couple months ago and was on the

soapbox in another group about this.

 

I said I can prophecy future pretty easy with the knowledge I

have...now its 1 of 6 or 1 of 9 (cant remember which one) who get

cancer. More and more people will get cancer. And more and more people

will die.

 

And its not only the additives in food and what they have in water.

Its also all the pesticides and herbicides they use in nature and this

goes in air and water and blablabla...

 

Plus plastic with their xeno-estrogens. Estrogen-dominance do some bad

things too. And if one have bad luck, breast cancer, prostata-cancer

or testicle-cancer.

 

In my birth city they found traces of heart medicine and

anti-depressiva in the sea. Where do that come from? People who visit

the bathroom of course.

 

W9

 

herbal remedies , " tasm39 " <tasm39> wrote:

> After some of the reading I have done recently I have a very

> different picture of this country I live in.....hopefully the links

> and books listed will give you a little more insight on MSG and what

> they are doing to our food.

[Guest guest]

Oh, I forgot one more things...chemicals in clothes, shoes, the

detergent to wash clothes, the softeners one use after the clothes is

washed. The soap one wash the dishes in, all the household products...

 

Reason? Perfumes and many other things in that stuff is from oil.

Petrol-derivatives they call it.

 

W9

 

herbal remedies , " walkyria9 " <wisdom9@g...> wrote:

> Hehe...

>

> Jan here on this list and I know alot about chemicals and where they

are.

>

> This have been going on for ages, and people seems to not wake up and

> see that do they eat that stuff, drink tap water, drink soda pops in

> plastic bottles, they get diseases and/or cancer with time.

>

> I was so frustrated about chemicals a couple months ago and was on the

> soapbox in another group about this.

>

> I said I can prophecy future pretty easy with the knowledge I

> have...now its 1 of 6 or 1 of 9 (cant remember which one) who get

> cancer. More and more people will get cancer. And more and more people

> will die.

>

> And its not only the additives in food and what they have in water.

> Its also all the pesticides and herbicides they use in nature and this

> goes in air and water and blablabla...

>

> Plus plastic with their xeno-estrogens. Estrogen-dominance do some bad

> things too. And if one have bad luck, breast cancer, prostata-cancer

> or testicle-cancer.

>

> In my birth city they found traces of heart medicine and

> anti-depressiva in the sea. Where do that come from? People who visit

> the bathroom of course.

>

> W9

>

> herbal remedies , " tasm39 " <tasm39> wrote:

> > After some of the reading I have done recently I have a very

> > different picture of this country I live in.....hopefully the links

> > and books listed will give you a little more insight on MSG and what

> > they are doing to our food.

[Guest guest]

herbal remedies , " Flo " <fgarig@b...> wrote:

> MSG? Shampoo? Really?

>

> What the heck else can it be used for? I thought it was 'simply' a

>flavor enhancer. Enlighten me, pleeeaase.

> Flo

 

********

They also spray MSG on " conventional " agricultural crops of all kinds.

 

FWIW

Jan / Michigan

 

For more info on it:

 

http://www.msgfacts.net/msg-overview-2.htm

 

Processed Free Glutamic Acid (MSG) Approved by the EPA

for Use on Growing Crops:

[Guest guest]

herbal remedies , " walkyria9 " <wisdom9@g...>

wrote:

 

> I said I can prophecy future pretty easy with the knowledge I

> have...now its 1 of 6 or 1 of 9 (cant remember which one) who get

> cancer. More and more people will get cancer. And more and more

>people will die.

>

> W9

 

******

My brother's oncologists claimed it was now around 1 out of 3 that

will get some type of cancer during their lifetime.

 

I read another article (I believe it was published in Canada), that 1

out of 3 women, and 1 out of 2 men, will get some form of cancer....

 

Not very good odds for avoiding it anymore...

 

Its not really suprising tho, when they add so many " known "

carcinogens to everything nowadays...not just air & water, but in and

on foods/beverages, cleaners, lawn & garden & farming chemicals,

skin/hair care & cosmetics, household furnishings, building

materials, cookware and food containers, and even the

chemical " pharmaceuticals " ....

 

I truly fear for today's children the most....

 

FWIW

Jan / Michigan

[Guest guest]

hmm, now that is interesting. Do you think that is what is in Miracle Grow, the box actually states that it can be sprayed on the plant to make it grow.

 

Then, pyrethrins are considered organic. How many of you folks knew that? Pyrethrins can be sprayed on plants for pest control and on the fruit and veggies while on the vine and the produce is still certifiable organic.

 

I still don't understand why it would be in shampoo... Hair fertilizer? L

 

Flo

 

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zoomom9 http://www.msgfacts.net/msg-overview-2.htmProcessed Free Glutamic Acid (MSG) Approved by the EPA for Use on Growing Crops:

[Guest guest]

I'm new, but just can't help jumping in. My husband suffers from

severe chronic migraines and MSG is one of his triggers. We have

found that MSG comes under many names and hidden sources. That way,

the labs and manufacturers can still use them, but do not need to

identify it under MSG, they list the " hidden names " . Most people do

not know those hidden names. So, they are continuing to use MSG

without knowing it. I found this on www.truthinlabeling.org and they

define the hidden names. Hope this helps you, too.

 

Just adding my opinion....... obesity took a hike upwards when MSG

was introduced. I read recently that when a lab wants a fat rat,

they feed it MSG. MSG, when introduced into foods, makes it taste

better, encourages to eat more, (not counting killing our brain

cells). hmmmmmmmm. I wonder if all forms of MSG were removed from

the market if our society would start losing weight. ??????

 

 

 

 

herbal remedies , " Flo " <fgarig@b...> wrote:

> hmm, now that is interesting. Do you think that is what is in

Miracle Grow, the box actually states that it can be sprayed on the

plant to make it grow.

>

> Then, pyrethrins are considered organic. How many of you folks

knew that? Pyrethrins can be sprayed on plants for pest control and

on the fruit and veggies while on the vine and the produce is still

certifiable organic.

>

> I still don't understand why it would be in shampoo... Hair

fertilizer? L

>

> Flo

> -

> zoomom9

>

> http://www.msgfacts.net/msg-overview-2.htm

>

> Processed Free Glutamic Acid (MSG) Approved by the EPA

> for Use on Growing Crops:

[Guest guest]

Just wanted to add (I didn't catch it on the site) that another hidden name for MSG is "spice" or "spices." If it really is spice the food label should just name the spice. I never buy anything that has the word spice or spices in the label.

 

Hugs,

Laurakikilestang <kikilestang wrote:

I'm new, but just can't help jumping in. My husband suffers from severe chronic migraines and MSG is one of his triggers. We have found that MSG comes under many names and hidden sources. That way, the labs and manufacturers can still use them, but do not need to identify it under MSG, they list the "hidden names". Most people do not know those hidden names. So, they are continuing to use MSG without knowing it. I found this on www.truthinlabeling.org and they define the hidden names. Hope this helps you, too.Just adding my opinion....... obesity took a hike upwards when MSG was introduced. I read recently that when a lab wants a fat rat, they feed it MSG. MSG, when introduced into foods, makes it taste better, encourages to eat more, (not counting killing our brain cells).

hmmmmmmmm. I wonder if all forms of MSG were removed from the market if our society would start losing weight. ??????herbal remedies , "Flo" <fgarig@b...> wrote:> hmm, now that is interesting. Do you think that is what is in Miracle Grow, the box actually states that it can be sprayed on the plant to make it grow. > > Then, pyrethrins are considered organic. How many of you folks knew that? Pyrethrins can be sprayed on plants for pest control and on the fruit and veggies while on the vine and the produce is still certifiable organic. > > I still don't understand why it would be in shampoo... Hair fertilizer? L> > Flo> - > zoomom9 > > http://www.msgfacts.net/msg-overview-2.htm>

> Processed Free Glutamic Acid (MSG) Approved by the EPA > for Use on Growing Crops: