Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 hi everyone i wanted to discuss a topic that very few herbalist talk about and that is dillution. say you are making an extract of something and that extract is done. now what? some people often make mistakes with the extract and forget to dillute it and take it straight from the bottle. i feel that this is a mistake,and must be reviewed to say the least. when i make an extract for medicine what i do is what everybody does -i take the plant ,emmerse it in alcohol and then shake it everyday. i also cheat a little and sometimes put it into a blender and let it mix for a few minutes. then back in the mason jar and then just wait -hope and pray. but then what i do is i dillute it -i take one drop of this and combine it to 99 drops of water and alcohol. this is called " making stock " bottles. then if i feel that the medicine isnt right -i take one drop of the stock bottle and repeat the process over again. while im doing this im marking the stock bottles.now i dont know how everyone else is doing theirs but i usually mark the first stock bottle 1X- then if i take a drop of 1X and combine that to 99 drops of water/alcohol -i mark it 2x- this way i know that the 2x is 2 steps away from the first extract the first extract i call " the mother " -because the mother,will have many sons. i guess its an old chineese saying- i dont think americans think this way . anyway i wanted to know if anybody else is dilluting their " mother extracts " ? another thing i wanted to talk about is " does anybody else cook their herbs before they extract them " ? the reason why i ask is because in chineese herbal medicine ,they cook the herbs. the theory behind it is that if the taste of the herb is week they cook it to make the taste more potent -so if the taste is more potent so to is the medicine. not all herbs are cooked. but certain thing like cinnamon ,it is fryed with honey. does anybody else do this? im not chinese but the way they do their medicine is really a marvel to see. to them everything can be used as a cure. they even use seahorses for asthma and they say it works. i have been to china town a few times in my life and i have seen reindeer horns ,real placenta,spleen of rat(dont laugh a man got cured of hiv with it) and so many other things. oh yeah i wanted too tell you a funny story about herbs. my neice and i was sitting in the kitchen.i was shelling out " walnuts " my neice had asked me why was i shelling out walnuts,well the real reason was i was doing some magick spells with this but i didnt want to tell her so i change the coversation and this is how it went. you know 2 hundred years ago humans used to make medicine by what the plant looked like and what color it was. do you see this walnut? it looks like brains. did you know that humans used to eat walnuts to build their brains and make them smarter? she said really? she started to eat the walnuts i had shelled and said she wanted to get smart. i think she ate just a hand few and we talked about things like mother nature and such... then 4 hours later i had a headache so i took asprine-then i went to see how she was and she had a mega headache. i touched her head and her temples was throbbing.her mother gave her medicine and then a bath. i was very curious as to why this was and sure enough -in the book that i had read (an old book from the 1800s) it said it was good for the brain but to much would give a headache. i was like " son of a bitch " -why didnt i think that this was true??? so i go looking through the book and it had " maiden hair " good for mental powers-maiden hair is " ginko biloba " it had other things as well that didnt make sense but now im thinking maybe it all makes sense. " eyebright tea " -good for? yup eyes! banana's was great for a mans verility-why? why is that? the old law was because it was shaped like a mans penis. now im a man-ok?- yeah i am -when i eat a banana -that fruit goes south -i mean i eat it and my belly swells up -then goes further south. has anybody else had similar experiences? i know this group is mostly female-so i dont expect you to compare your eating bananas -to me and comparing notes but did you ever eat or try something that didnt make sense but is true? when i was young i was told my some old man " never rub coconut oil on your chest " i asked why and he said because it will give me a bigger chest and i wouldnt want that. coconuts -chest -coincidence? old wives tale? or is mother nature telling us something on a very simplistic way of life?is she giving us clues to help us along in life? red flowers for blood? red roots like beets for blood? sunflowers for gold? gold deficiency? milk for bones teeth and nails? marigold for iron? pigs knuckles (this is what gelatin is made from) good for nails and cartilage. weird huh? you might think twice before you pass up the cucumbers androshi` Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 One thing I want to make clear about... Seahorses is almost extinguished so the practice the chinese people is doing is not good at all. Medicine for asthma or not....I rather want them to stay away from killing the seahorses thats left. W9 herbal remedies , " Monchello Androshi " <warlocke_rising> wrote: > hi everyone > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 you have got to be kidding me. i didnt know sea horses was almost extinct? when i was young they where common fishes. it seems odd that they are ,there so beautiful. now if you said " bears " are getting extinct in china i would say yes 100%! the chinese use bears for medicine. they use the gall bladder and something else of the bear for their medicine i think liver and spleen as well as rattle snakes, bees,earth dragons spiders and another animal that escapes my mind but it is toxic ,oh yeah a helia monster. things that are poisonous with sting or bite is now the " in thing " for medicine. well ill tell ya -now that i know that these sea horses are going to be extinct maybe i should buy a few.and raise them. i have a great big 50 gallon tank thats empty just staring at me. rain deer antlers cost 45$ for 8 slices in china town. placenta is also costly. testacles are a little bit cheaper. you should go to china town where you live because it would open your eyes as to what the other side does for medicine. fossil dung 50$ pending on the animal. sharks are widely used .shell of a turtle very costly-almost 100$ hearts of exotic animals go for in the 1000$ if fresh androshi` Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2005 Report Share Posted July 14, 2005 Yeah they are on the way to get extinct.... Scientists have found that because of the practice to catch them for use in chinese medicine and for zoo whatever it was called (aquarium?), 50% of them is gone. And you know how fast it goes when an animal is not put a ban on, that people are not allowed to catch them. I heard this from a friend first, and when I made that post, I decided to check it and yes I found an article about scientists worried about the seahorses. 50% of them dissappeared in short time (10-20 years is not long time really). And its no ban on them either. Nobody is aware about that so many of them is gone already. W9 herbal remedies , " Monchello Androshi " <warlocke_rising> wrote: > you have got to be kidding me. > > i didnt know sea horses was almost extinct? > when i was young they where common fishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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