Fluoride Damages Children's Bones - Study

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Fluoride Damages

Children's Bones - Study

NYS Coalition Opposed To Fluoridation

6-7-5

 

NEW YORK (PRNewswire) -- White-spotted or yellow splotched teeth may

reveal more than needed expensive cosmetic dentistry.

 

Children with fluoride-discolored teeth (dental fluorosis) are more

likely to have bone damage, according to a study published in the

journal " Fluoride. "

 

Despite living in a low-water-fluoride district, 132 Tibetan

children, aged 8 to 13-years-old, developed dental fluorosis from

dietary fluoride sources such as brick tea, a popular Asian drink,

fed to children as young as two years old. (1)

 

Wrist x-rays reveal that 96% of those children with dental fluorosis

had " developmental skeletal abnormalities " including carpal bone

hardening or thickening.

 

" Therefore, dental fluorosis in children should be viewed as more

than a matter of cosmetic concern, since it can also be a sign of

early-stage skeletal fluorosis that might lead to full-scale

debilitating skeletal fluorosis in adulthood, " write researchers Cao

and colleagues.

 

Skeletal fluorosis with pain, stiffness and/or deforming bone

defects, is common in Nalgonda, India (See:

http://www.nalgonda.org/flourosis.php )

 

To avoid skeletal fluorosis in the U.S., the maximum-contaminant-

level of fluoride allowed in drinking water by the Environmental

Protection Agency is 4 parts per million (4 milligrams per liter).

 

But, some people exceed 4 milligrams daily from their diet, alone

(2). Up to 63% of children living in optimally fluoridated areas

(0.7 - 1.2 ppm) have dental fluorosis (3). More studies show a link

between dental fluorosis and bone damage.

 

A British Medical Journal study reports that older white women from

fluoridated communities have a 32% higher rate of wrist fracture.

(4)

 

A Mexican study links dental fluorosis to bone fractures. (5)

 

Polish pediatricians found abnormal bone changes in 11 to 15 year-

olds exhibiting dental fluorosis. (5a)

 

A Rheumatology International study links naturally fluoridated water

to knee osteoarthritis in amounts many Americans consume daily. (6)

 

Early fluorosis warning signs include joint pain, stomach pain,

excessive thirst and urination, muscle weakness, and/or anemia,

especially if accompanied by discoloration in the patient's front

row of teeth, according to Dr. A.K. Susheela, Director of India's

Fluorosis Research and Rural Development Foundation. (7)

 

A U.S. woman's spine pain alleviated when she avoided fluoride.(8)

 

" Americans are unaware that their arthritis or irritable bowel

syndrome could be fluoride-related, " says attorney Paul Beeber,

President, New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation.

 

Additional bone/fluoride research can be found here:

http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/bone/index.html

 

References:

 

(1)

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Espittle/381%2044.pdf

 

(2)

http://iadr.confex.com/iadr/2002SanDiego/techprogram/abstract_20316.h

tm

 

(3)

http://www.orgsites.com/ny/newyorkstatecoalitionopposedtofluoridation

/_pgg6.php3

 

(4)

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?

artid=27493 & rendertype=table & id=T4

 

5)

http://www.fluoride-journal.com/01-34-2/342-139.pdf

 

(5a) Chlebna-Sokól D(1), Czerwinski E(2), " Bone structure assessment

on radiographs of distal radial metaphysis in children with dental

fluorosis, " Fluoride, 1993 26:l, 37-44.

http://www.fluoridation.com/isfr.htm

 

(6)

http://www.orgsites.com/ny/newyorkstatecoalitionopposedtofluoridation

/_pgg7.php3

 

(7)

http://education.vsnl.com/fluorosis/information.html

 

(8)

http://mednews.wustl.edu/news/page/normal/4607.html

Contact:

Paul S. Beeber, President nyscof

New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation, Inc.

PO Box 263,

Old Bethpage, NY 11804

 

SOURCE NYS Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation

<http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof>

http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof

<http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof>

 

Fluoridation News Releases

<http://tinyurl.com/6kqtu>http://tinyurl.com/6kqtu

[Guest guest]

Would you believe that right now the NJ Dental Assoc

is pushing the state gov't to mandate flouride in the

water. NJ ranks 49th in the nation as far as amount of

flouridation in public drinking water and I would like

to keep it that way. I can't stand the fact that even

though American Dental Assoc does not recommend

flouride supplements for babies under the age of 6

months old, they are trying to push our state into

medicating the entire population. What about all those

babies who are given formula made with tap water by

unknowing parents?

 

I have already scoped out a reverse osmosis filter for

my kitchen sink. It stinks because we just put in a

whole house filter and I have been enjoying drinking

water from the tap but that won't take care of

flouride in the water.

 

There has been organized opposition to the

flouridation but when you're up against such a

powerful lobbying group who have touted the benefits

for so long, I don't think the " little guy " will win.

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

My husband and his brothers got fluoride pills as kids when they

lived in europe because it was not in the drinking water. From that

his and his brothers are brown. So its true. I took my son and

family off Fluoride toothpase and we only use natureal tooth paste.

He has nad no more cavites and its been several years now. If the

back of a tooth paste tube says dont swallow you know there must be

something wrong with it. But its ok to brush your teeth :-( Here is

a link i was given about it being in rat poison along with alot of

other things that are bad for your insides, though i would pass it

on. tabitha

 

http://www.greaterthings.com/Lexicon/F/Fluoride.htm

 

 

 

 

herbal remedies , " iris054 " <click22@v...>

wrote:

> Fluoride Damages

> Children's Bones - Study

> NYS Coalition Opposed To Fluoridation

> 6-7-5

>

> NEW YORK (PRNewswire) -- White-spotted or yellow splotched teeth

may

> reveal more than needed expensive cosmetic dentistry.

>

> Children with fluoride-discolored teeth (dental fluorosis) are

more

> likely to have bone damage, according to a study published in the

> journal " Fluoride. "

>

> Despite living in a low-water-fluoride district, 132 Tibetan

> children, aged 8 to 13-years-old, developed dental fluorosis from

> dietary fluoride sources such as brick tea, a popular Asian drink,

> fed to children as young as two years old. (1)

>

> Wrist x-rays reveal that 96% of those children with dental

fluorosis

> had " developmental skeletal abnormalities " including carpal bone

> hardening or thickening.

>

> " Therefore, dental fluorosis in children should be viewed as more

> than a matter of cosmetic concern, since it can also be a sign of

> early-stage skeletal fluorosis that might lead to full-scale

> debilitating skeletal fluorosis in adulthood, " write researchers

Cao

> and colleagues.

>

> Skeletal fluorosis with pain, stiffness and/or deforming bone

> defects, is common in Nalgonda, India (See:

> http://www.nalgonda.org/flourosis.php )

>

> To avoid skeletal fluorosis in the U.S., the maximum-contaminant-

> level of fluoride allowed in drinking water by the Environmental

> Protection Agency is 4 parts per million (4 milligrams per liter).

>

> But, some people exceed 4 milligrams daily from their diet, alone

> (2). Up to 63% of children living in optimally fluoridated areas

> (0.7 - 1.2 ppm) have dental fluorosis (3). More studies show a

link

> between dental fluorosis and bone damage.

>

> A British Medical Journal study reports that older white women

from

> fluoridated communities have a 32% higher rate of wrist fracture.

> (4)

>

> A Mexican study links dental fluorosis to bone fractures. (5)

>

> Polish pediatricians found abnormal bone changes in 11 to 15 year-

> olds exhibiting dental fluorosis. (5a)

>

> A Rheumatology International study links naturally fluoridated

water

> to knee osteoarthritis in amounts many Americans consume daily.

(6)

>

> Early fluorosis warning signs include joint pain, stomach pain,

> excessive thirst and urination, muscle weakness, and/or anemia,

> especially if accompanied by discoloration in the patient's front

> row of teeth, according to Dr. A.K. Susheela, Director of India's

> Fluorosis Research and Rural Development Foundation. (7)

>

> A U.S. woman's spine pain alleviated when she avoided fluoride.(8)

>

> " Americans are unaware that their arthritis or irritable bowel

> syndrome could be fluoride-related, " says attorney Paul Beeber,

> President, New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation.

>

> Additional bone/fluoride research can be found here:

> http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/bone/index.html

>

> References:

>

> (1)

> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Espittle/381%2044.pdf

>

> (2)

>

http://iadr.confex.com/iadr/2002SanDiego/techprogram/abstract_20316.h

> tm

>

> (3)

>

http://www.orgsites.com/ny/newyorkstatecoalitionopposedtofluoridation

> /_pgg6.php3

>

> (4)

> http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?

> artid=27493 & rendertype=table & id=T4

>

> 5)

> http://www.fluoride-journal.com/01-34-2/342-139.pdf

>

> (5a) Chlebna-Sokól D(1), Czerwinski E(2), " Bone structure

assessment

> on radiographs of distal radial metaphysis in children with dental

> fluorosis, " Fluoride, 1993 26:l, 37-44.

> http://www.fluoridation.com/isfr.htm

>

> (6)

>

http://www.orgsites.com/ny/newyorkstatecoalitionopposedtofluoridation

> /_pgg7.php3

>

> (7)

> http://education.vsnl.com/fluorosis/information.html

>

> (8)

> http://mednews.wustl.edu/news/page/normal/4607.html

> Contact:

> Paul S. Beeber, President nyscof@a...

> New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation, Inc.

> PO Box 263,

> Old Bethpage, NY 11804

>

> SOURCE NYS Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation

> <http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof>

> http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof

> <http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof>

>

> Fluoridation News Releases

> <http://tinyurl.com/6kqtu>http://tinyurl.com/6kqtu

[Guest guest]

I got fluoride pills as kid and I dont have brown teeth.

 

So I think there could be other factors too.

 

That I dont have brown teeth is because I had parents who almost

always made food from scratch and we had very pure water from an

underground source in the forest. That water is probably still pretty

pure but not as when I was kid, because there wasnt much chemicals

back then in nature. Now its worse.

 

Anyway I found an amazing letter online - a professor of chemistry who

wrote to government, but it was " forgotten " , of course.

 

http://gerardjudd.com/summation.htm

 

In that letter he say the best thing is to brush your teeth with

soap.....which I have done now for over a year, and I must say I will

never ever go back to toothpaste of any kind.

 

Nothing beats the clean feeling from using soap to brush teeth. And of

course when I save alot of money by not buying toothpaste, especially

from health shop, then I am satisfied, LOL.

 

So soon I am a " freak " who take with me my own natural olive oil soap

everywhere, hehehe....(I say this because after a town trip two days

ago I got allergic reactions to the soap in public places and I

decided to take with me my own soap from now on, because these

reactions is tough on my body).

 

W9

 

 

 

herbal remedies , " Tabitha " <nightwinds72>

wrote:

> My husband and his brothers got fluoride pills as kids when they

> lived in europe because it was not in the drinking water. From that

> his and his brothers are brown. So its true. I took my son and

> family off Fluoride toothpase and we only use natureal tooth paste.

> He has nad no more cavites and its been several years now. If the

> back of a tooth paste tube says dont swallow you know there must be

> something wrong with it. But its ok to brush your teeth :-( Here is

> a link i was given about it being in rat poison along with alot of

> other things that are bad for your insides, though i would pass it

> on. tabitha

>

> http://www.greaterthings.com/Lexicon/F/Fluoride.htm

>

>

>

>

> herbal remedies , " iris054 " <click22@v...>

> wrote:

> > Fluoride Damages

> > Children's Bones - Study

> > NYS Coalition Opposed To Fluoridation

> > 6-7-5

> >

> > NEW YORK (PRNewswire) -- White-spotted or yellow splotched teeth

> may

> > reveal more than needed expensive cosmetic dentistry.

> >

> > Children with fluoride-discolored teeth (dental fluorosis) are

> more

> > likely to have bone damage, according to a study published in the

> > journal " Fluoride. "

> >

> > Despite living in a low-water-fluoride district, 132 Tibetan

> > children, aged 8 to 13-years-old, developed dental fluorosis from

> > dietary fluoride sources such as brick tea, a popular Asian drink,

> > fed to children as young as two years old. (1)

> >

> > Wrist x-rays reveal that 96% of those children with dental

> fluorosis

> > had " developmental skeletal abnormalities " including carpal bone

> > hardening or thickening.

> >

> > " Therefore, dental fluorosis in children should be viewed as more

> > than a matter of cosmetic concern, since it can also be a sign of

> > early-stage skeletal fluorosis that might lead to full-scale

> > debilitating skeletal fluorosis in adulthood, " write researchers

> Cao

> > and colleagues.

> >

> > Skeletal fluorosis with pain, stiffness and/or deforming bone

> > defects, is common in Nalgonda, India (See:

> > http://www.nalgonda.org/flourosis.php )

> >

> > To avoid skeletal fluorosis in the U.S., the maximum-contaminant-

> > level of fluoride allowed in drinking water by the Environmental

> > Protection Agency is 4 parts per million (4 milligrams per liter).

> >

> > But, some people exceed 4 milligrams daily from their diet, alone

> > (2). Up to 63% of children living in optimally fluoridated areas

> > (0.7 - 1.2 ppm) have dental fluorosis (3). More studies show a

> link

> > between dental fluorosis and bone damage.

> >

> > A British Medical Journal study reports that older white women

> from

> > fluoridated communities have a 32% higher rate of wrist fracture.

> > (4)

> >

> > A Mexican study links dental fluorosis to bone fractures. (5)

> >

> > Polish pediatricians found abnormal bone changes in 11 to 15 year-

> > olds exhibiting dental fluorosis. (5a)

> >

> > A Rheumatology International study links naturally fluoridated

> water

> > to knee osteoarthritis in amounts many Americans consume daily.

> (6)

> >

> > Early fluorosis warning signs include joint pain, stomach pain,

> > excessive thirst and urination, muscle weakness, and/or anemia,

> > especially if accompanied by discoloration in the patient's front

> > row of teeth, according to Dr. A.K. Susheela, Director of India's

> > Fluorosis Research and Rural Development Foundation. (7)

> >

> > A U.S. woman's spine pain alleviated when she avoided fluoride.(8)

> >

> > " Americans are unaware that their arthritis or irritable bowel

> > syndrome could be fluoride-related, " says attorney Paul Beeber,

> > President, New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation.

> >

> > Additional bone/fluoride research can be found here:

> > http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/bone/index.html

> >

> > References:

> >

> > (1)

> > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Espittle/381%2044.pdf

> >

> > (2)

> >

> http://iadr.confex.com/iadr/2002SanDiego/techprogram/abstract_20316.h

> > tm

> >

> > (3)

> >

> http://www.orgsites.com/ny/newyorkstatecoalitionopposedtofluoridation

> > /_pgg6.php3

> >

> > (4)

> > http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?

> > artid=27493 & rendertype=table & id=T4

> >

> > 5)

> > http://www.fluoride-journal.com/01-34-2/342-139.pdf

> >

> > (5a) Chlebna-Sokól D(1), Czerwinski E(2), " Bone structure

> assessment

> > on radiographs of distal radial metaphysis in children with dental

> > fluorosis, " Fluoride, 1993 26:l, 37-44.

> > http://www.fluoridation.com/isfr.htm

> >

> > (6)

> >

> http://www.orgsites.com/ny/newyorkstatecoalitionopposedtofluoridation

> > /_pgg7.php3

> >

> > (7)

> > http://education.vsnl.com/fluorosis/information.html

> >

> > (8)

> > http://mednews.wustl.edu/news/page/normal/4607.html

> > Contact:

> > Paul S. Beeber, President nyscof@a...

> > New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation, Inc.

> > PO Box 263,

> > Old Bethpage, NY 11804

> >

> > SOURCE NYS Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation

> > <http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof>

> > http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof

> > <http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof>

> >

> > Fluoridation News Releases

> > <http://tinyurl.com/6kqtu>http://tinyurl.com/6kqtu

[Guest guest]

Hi WP,

 

Where can I purchase olive oil soap? Is it available at health food stores?

Ireneimclark [Original Message]> walkyria9 <wisdom9> <herbal remedies >> 6/9/2005 10:32:19 AM> Herbal Remedies - Re: Fluoride Damages Children's Bones - Study>> I got fluoride pills as kid and I dont have brown teeth.>> So I think there could be other factors too.>> That I dont have brown teeth is because I had parents who almost> always made food from scratch and we had very pure water from an> underground source in the forest. That water is probably still pretty> pure but not as when I was kid, because there wasnt much chemicals> back then in nature. Now its worse. >> Anyway I found an amazing letter online - a professor of chemistry who> wrote to government, but it was "forgotten", of course. >> http://gerardjudd.com/summation.htm>> In that letter he say the best thing is to brush your teeth with> soap.....which I have done now for over a year, and I must say I will> never ever go back to toothpaste of any kind. >> Nothing beats the clean feeling from using soap to brush teeth. And of> course when I save alot of money by not buying toothpaste, especially> from health shop, then I am satisfied, LOL.>> So soon I am a "freak" who take with me my own natural olive oil soap> everywhere, hehehe....(I say this because after a town trip two days> ago I got allergic reactions to the soap in public places and I> decided to take with me my own soap from now on, because these> reactions is tough on my body).>> W9>>>> herbal remedies , "Tabitha" <nightwinds72>> wrote:> > My husband and his brothers got fluoride pills as kids when they > > lived in europe because it was not in the drinking water. From that > > his and his brothers are brown. So its true. I took my son and > > family off Fluoride toothpase and we only use natureal tooth paste. > > He has nad no more cavites and its been several years now. If the > > back of a tooth paste tube says dont swallow you know there must be > > something wrong with it. But its ok to brush your teeth :-( Here is > > a link i was given about it being in rat poison along with alot of > > other things that are bad for your insides, though i would pass it > > on. tabitha> > > > http://www.greaterthings.com/Lexicon/F/Fluoride.htm> > > > > > > > > > herbal remedies , "iris054" <click22@v...> > > wrote:> > > Fluoride Damages > > > Children's Bones - Study > > > NYS Coalition Opposed To Fluoridation> > > 6-7-5> > > > > > NEW YORK (PRNewswire) -- White-spotted or yellow splotched teeth > > may > > > reveal more than needed expensive cosmetic dentistry. > > > > > > Children with fluoride-discolored teeth (dental fluorosis) are > > more > > > likely to have bone damage, according to a study published in the > > > journal "Fluoride." > > > > > > Despite living in a low-water-fluoride district, 132 Tibetan > > > children, aged 8 to 13-years-old, developed dental fluorosis from > > > dietary fluoride sources such as brick tea, a popular Asian drink, > > > fed to children as young as two years old. (1) > > > > > > Wrist x-rays reveal that 96% of those children with dental > > fluorosis > > > had "developmental skeletal abnormalities" including carpal bone > > > hardening or thickening. > > > > > > "Therefore, dental fluorosis in children should be viewed as more > > > than a matter of cosmetic concern, since it can also be a sign of > > > early-stage skeletal fluorosis that might lead to full-scale > > > debilitating skeletal fluorosis in adulthood," write researchers > > Cao > > > and colleagues. > > > > > > Skeletal fluorosis with pain, stiffness and/or deforming bone > > > defects, is common in Nalgonda, India (See: > > > http://www.nalgonda.org/flourosis.php ) > > > > > > To avoid skeletal fluorosis in the U.S., the maximum-contaminant-> > > level of fluoride allowed in drinking water by the Environmental > > > Protection Agency is 4 parts per million (4 milligrams per liter). > > > > > > But, some people exceed 4 milligrams daily from their diet, alone > > > (2). Up to 63% of children living in optimally fluoridated areas > > > (0.7 - 1.2 ppm) have dental fluorosis (3). More studies show a > > link > > > between dental fluorosis and bone damage. > > > > > > A British Medical Journal study reports that older white women > > from > > > fluoridated communities have a 32% higher rate of wrist fracture. > > > (4) > > > > > > A Mexican study links dental fluorosis to bone fractures. (5) > > > > > > Polish pediatricians found abnormal bone changes in 11 to 15 year-> > > olds exhibiting dental fluorosis. (5a) > > > > > > A Rheumatology International study links naturally fluoridated > > water > > > to knee osteoarthritis in amounts many Americans consume daily. > > (6) > > > > > > Early fluorosis warning signs include joint pain, stomach pain, > > > excessive thirst and urination, muscle weakness, and/or anemia, > > > especially if accompanied by discoloration in the patient's front > > > row of teeth, according to Dr. A.K. Susheela, Director of India's > > > Fluorosis Research and Rural Development Foundation. (7) > > > > > > A U.S. woman's spine pain alleviated when she avoided fluoride.(8) > > > > > > "Americans are unaware that their arthritis or irritable bowel > > > syndrome could be fluoride-related," says attorney Paul Beeber, > > > President, New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation. > > > > > > Additional bone/fluoride research can be found here: > > > http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/bone/index.html > > > > > > References: > > > > > > (1) > > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Espittle/381%2044.pdf > > > > > > (2) > > > > > http://iadr.confex.com/iadr/2002SanDiego/techprogram/abstract_20316.h> > > tm > > > > > > (3) > > > > > http://www.orgsites.com/ny/newyorkstatecoalitionopposedtofluoridation> > > /_pgg6.php3 > > > > > > (4) > > > http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?> > > artid=27493 & rendertype=table & id=T4 > > > > > > 5) > > > http://www.fluoride-journal.com/01-34-2/342-139.pdf > > > > > > (5a) Chlebna-Sokól D(1), Czerwinski E(2), "Bone structure > > assessment > > > on radiographs of distal radial metaphysis in children with dental > > > fluorosis," Fluoride, 1993 26:l, 37-44. > > > http://www.fluoridation.com/isfr.htm > > > > > > (6) > > > > > http://www.orgsites.com/ny/newyorkstatecoalitionopposedtofluoridation> > > /_pgg7.php3 > > > > > > (7) > > > http://education.vsnl.com/fluorosis/information.html > > > > > > (8) > > > http://mednews.wustl.edu/news/page/normal/4607.html > > > Contact: > > > Paul S. Beeber, President nyscof@a... > > > New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation, Inc. > > > PO Box 263, > > > Old Bethpage, NY 11804 > > > > > > SOURCE NYS Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation > > > <http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof> > > > http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof > > > <http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof> > > > > > > Fluoridation News Releases > > > <http://tinyurl.com/6kqtu>http://tinyurl.com/6kqtu>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

what is olive oil soap> Also, what type of soap do you use to brush

your teeth with?

 

Thank you!

 

Sandy

 

 

walkyria9 wrote:

 

I got fluoride pills as kid and I dont have brown teeth.

 

So I think there could be other factors too.

 

That I dont have brown teeth is because I had parents who almost

always made food from scratch and we had very pure water from an

underground source in the forest. That water is probably still pretty

pure but not as when I was kid, because there wasnt much chemicals

back then in nature. Now its worse.

 

Anyway I found an amazing letter online - a professor of chemistry who

wrote to government, but it was "forgotten", of course.

 

http://gerardjudd.com/summation.htm

 

In that letter he say the best thing is to brush your teeth with

soap.....which I have done now for over a year, and I must say I will

never ever go back to toothpaste of any kind.

 

Nothing beats the clean feeling from using soap to brush teeth. And of

course when I save alot of money by not buying toothpaste, especially

from health shop, then I am satisfied, LOL.

 

So soon I am a "freak" who take with me my own natural olive oil soap

everywhere, hehehe....(I say this because after a town trip two days

ago I got allergic reactions to the soap in public places and I

decided to take with me my own soap from now on, because these

reactions is tough on my body).

 

W9

 

 

 

herbal remedies , "Tabitha"

<nightwinds72>

wrote:

> My husband and his brothers got fluoride pills as kids when they

> lived in europe because it was not in the drinking water. From

that

> his and his brothers are brown. So its true. I took my son and

> family off Fluoride toothpase and we only use natureal tooth

paste.

> He has nad no more cavites and its been several years now. If the

> back of a tooth paste tube says dont swallow you know there must

be

> something wrong with it. But its ok to brush your teeth :-( Here

is

> a link i was given about it being in rat poison along with alot of

 

> other things that are bad for your insides, though i would pass it

 

> on. tabitha

>

> http://www.greaterthings.com/Lexicon/F/Fluoride.htm

>

>

>

>

> herbal remedies , "iris054"

<click22@v...>

> wrote:

> > Fluoride Damages

> > Children's Bones - Study

> > NYS Coalition Opposed To Fluoridation

> > 6-7-5

> >

> > NEW YORK (PRNewswire) -- White-spotted or yellow splotched

teeth

> may

> > reveal more than needed expensive cosmetic dentistry.

> >

> > Children with fluoride-discolored teeth (dental fluorosis)

are

> more

> > likely to have bone damage, according to a study published in

the

> > journal "Fluoride."

> >

> > Despite living in a low-water-fluoride district, 132 Tibetan

> > children, aged 8 to 13-years-old, developed dental fluorosis

from

> > dietary fluoride sources such as brick tea, a popular Asian

drink,

> > fed to children as young as two years old. (1)

> >

> > Wrist x-rays reveal that 96% of those children with dental

> fluorosis

> > had "developmental skeletal abnormalities" including carpal

bone

> > hardening or thickening.

> >

> > "Therefore, dental fluorosis in children should be viewed as

more

> > than a matter of cosmetic concern, since it can also be a

sign of

> > early-stage skeletal fluorosis that might lead to full-scale

> > debilitating skeletal fluorosis in adulthood," write

researchers

> Cao

> > and colleagues.

> >

> > Skeletal fluorosis with pain, stiffness and/or deforming bone

 

> > defects, is common in Nalgonda, India (See:

> > http://www.nalgonda.org/flourosis.php

)

> >

> > To avoid skeletal fluorosis in the U.S., the

maximum-contaminant-

> > level of fluoride allowed in drinking water by the

Environmental

> > Protection Agency is 4 parts per million (4 milligrams per

liter).

> >

> > But, some people exceed 4 milligrams daily from their diet,

alone

> > (2). Up to 63% of children living in optimally fluoridated

areas

> > (0.7 - 1.2 ppm) have dental fluorosis (3). More studies show

a

> link

> > between dental fluorosis and bone damage.

> >

> > A British Medical Journal study reports that older white

women

> from

> > fluoridated communities have a 32% higher rate of wrist

fracture.

> > (4)

> >

> > A Mexican study links dental fluorosis to bone fractures. (5)

 

> >

> > Polish pediatricians found abnormal bone changes in 11 to 15

year-

> > olds exhibiting dental fluorosis. (5a)

> >

> > A Rheumatology International study links naturally

fluoridated

> water

> > to knee osteoarthritis in amounts many Americans consume

daily.

> (6)

> >

> > Early fluorosis warning signs include joint pain, stomach

pain,

> > excessive thirst and urination, muscle weakness, and/or

anemia,

> > especially if accompanied by discoloration in the patient's

front

> > row of teeth, according to Dr. A.K. Susheela, Director of

India's

> > Fluorosis Research and Rural Development Foundation. (7)

> >

> > A U.S. woman's spine pain alleviated when she avoided

fluoride.(8)

> >

> > "Americans are unaware that their arthritis or irritable

bowel

> > syndrome could be fluoride-related," says attorney Paul

Beeber,

> > President, New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation.

> >

> > Additional bone/fluoride research can be found here:

> > http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/bone/index.html

 

> >

> > References:

> >

> > (1)

> > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Espittle/381%2044.pdf

 

> >

> > (2)

> >

> http://iadr.confex.com/iadr/2002SanDiego/techprogram/abstract_20316.h

> > tm

> >

> > (3)

> >

> http://www.orgsites.com/ny/newyorkstatecoalitionopposedtofluoridation

> > /_pgg6.php3

> >

> > (4)

> > http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?

> > artid=27493 & rendertype=table & id=T4

> >

> > 5)

> > http://www.fluoride-journal.com/01-34-2/342-139.pdf

 

> >

> > (5a) Chlebna-Sokól D(1), Czerwinski E(2), "Bone structure

> assessment

> > on radiographs of distal radial metaphysis in children with

dental

> > fluorosis," Fluoride, 1993 26:l, 37-44.

> > http://www.fluoridation.com/isfr.htm

 

> >

> > (6)

> >

> http://www.orgsites.com/ny/newyorkstatecoalitionopposedtofluoridation

> > /_pgg7.php3

> >

> > (7)

> > http://education.vsnl.com/fluorosis/information.html

 

> >

> > (8)

> > http://mednews.wustl.edu/news/page/normal/4607.html

 

> > Contact:

> > Paul S. Beeber, President nyscof@a...

> > New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation, Inc.

> > PO Box 263,

> > Old Bethpage, NY 11804

> >

> > SOURCE NYS Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation

> > <http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof>

 

> > http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof

 

> > <http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof>

 

> >

> > Fluoridation News Releases

> > <http://tinyurl.com/6kqtu>http://tinyurl.com/6kqtu

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Oh...I will try to answer the best I can....

 

I must admit I got surprised, heh...didnt think anyone would reply to

my post.

 

Ok, Olive oil soap is what you call for...umm..I never remember that

name...let me look it up.

 

Its made of olive oil, lye and water only, thats why I call it olive

oil soap. I have made it before, and its too bad I quit to make it

because my family and my friends say its so good, lol. Hm, I should

get back to soap making.....when I dont have more of the pure olive

oil soaps without perfume I bought in Greece (I bought so many because

they was so cheap and I have to use them up first, lol).

 

Ah...Castille soap they call it.

 

For those of you who want something to order, there is the tooth soap,

and that one is too made only by saponified coconut, palm, olive and

essential oil. It is with essential oils in it so it doesnt taste like

soap at least.

 

http://www.thecompounder.com/PerfectRx1.html

 

For those of you who want to make it to get it *much* cheaper, its

possible to make an olive oil soap and just have peppermint or

spearmint essential oil in it, enough to get a good taste of

peppermint or spearmint....

 

On this site http://www.eaudrey.com/basic2.htm is a recipe with only

olive oil, lye and water (scroll down the site untill you see the

olive oil soap recipe), also link " basic soap instructions " to how

make it and so on.

 

And yes you can get castille soap at health food stores. I know of one

that is extremely pure, but I dont know if you have it in USA. It is

here in Norway, in some health food shops.

 

Its called Alep Soap and its a brownish block with a stamp on with

syrian letters I think.

 

Type Alep soap in google and you get up alot of links. Even one with

the pictures of the factory when they restored it and started again

with this ancient recipe in Syria.

 

http://www.syriangate.com/soap.htm

 

Its the Alep soap I take with me when I go somewhere, to brush my

teeth and will also now use instead soaps in public places. I had to

buy it to try it and I like it alot....but yeah, I am going back to

make my own soap when I run out of the olive oil soaps here.

 

Its funny really but before toothpaste came at all, they used soap to

brush their teeth, if they did brush at all.

 

W9

 

 

 

herbal remedies , " imclark@e... " <imclark@e...>

wrote:

>

> Hi WP,

>

> Where can I purchase olive oil soap? Is it available at health food

stores?

>

> Irene

> imclark@e...

>

>

> > [Original Message]

> > walkyria9 <wisdom9@g...>

> > <herbal remedies >

> > 6/9/2005 10:32:19 AM

> > Herbal Remedies - Re: Fluoride Damages Children's Bones

- Study

> >

> > I got fluoride pills as kid and I dont have brown teeth.

> >

[Guest guest]

Yes, you can find it at health food stores. There are a few good

brands avaliable.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/10/2005 3:25:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, wisdom9 writes:

http://www.syriangate.com/soap.htm

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

W9,

 

Thanks for that link. As a soapmaker, I found it all fascinating. :-)

 

Beth

[Guest guest]

hope this works this way...

hugs

charlene

Product search results for olive oil soap

 

Olive Oil Soap 8 oz. - $2.99 - Stony Mountain BotanicalsOlive Oil Soap Base 2LBS. Melt & Pour - $7.95 - Auction FirePerlier Olive Oil Soap Bar Trio - $19.00 - Home Shopping Network

 

olive oil soap

 

 

olive oil for soapmaking - The Olive Oil Source - Soap made from olive oil requires a certain type of oil with the right acidity and color.www.oliveoilsource.com/olive_oil_soap.htm - 27k - Jun 9, 2005 - Cached - Similar pages"imclark" <imclark wrote:

 

Hi WP,

 

Where can I purchase olive oil soap? Is it available at health food stores?

Ireneimclark [Original Message]> walkyria9 <wisdom9> <herbal remedies >> 6/9/2005 10:32:19 AM> Herbal Remedies - Re: Fluoride Damages Children's Bones - Study>> I got fluoride pills as kid and I dont have brown teeth.>> So I think there could be other factors too.>> That I dont have brown teeth is because I had parents who almost> always made food from scratch and we had very pure water from an> underground source in the forest. That water is probably still pretty> pure but not as when I was kid, because there wasnt much chemicals> back then in nature. Now its worse. >> Anyway I found an amazing letter online - a professor of chemistry who> wrote to government, but it was "forgotten", of course. >>

http://gerardjudd.com/summation.htm>> In that letter he say the best thing is to brush your teeth with> soap.....which I have done now for over a year, and I must say I will> never ever go back to toothpaste of any kind. >> Nothing beats the clean feeling from using soap to brush teeth. And of> course when I save alot of money by not buying toothpaste, especially> from health shop, then I am satisfied, LOL.>> So soon I am a "freak" who take with me my own natural olive oil soap> everywhere, hehehe....(I say this because after a town trip two days> ago I got allergic reactions to the soap in public places and I> decided to take with me my own soap from now on, because these> reactions is tough on my body).>> W9>>>> herbal remedies , "Tabitha" <nightwinds72>> wrote:> > My husband and his brothers

got fluoride pills as kids when they > > lived in europe because it was not in the drinking water. From that > > his and his brothers are brown. So its true. I took my son and > > family off Fluoride toothpase and we only use natureal tooth paste. > > He has nad no more cavites and its been several years now. If the > > back of a tooth paste tube says dont swallow you know there must be > > something wrong with it. But its ok to brush your teeth :-( Here is > > a link i was given about it being in rat poison along with alot of > > other things that are bad for your insides, though i would pass it > > on. tabitha> > > > http://www.greaterthings.com/Lexicon/F/Fluoride.htm> > > > > > > > > > herbal remedies , "iris054" <click22@v...> > > wrote:> > > Fluoride Damages >

> > Children's Bones - Study > > > NYS Coalition Opposed To Fluoridation> > > 6-7-5> > > > > > NEW YORK (PRNewswire) -- White-spotted or yellow splotched teeth > > may > > > reveal more than needed expensive cosmetic dentistry. > > > > > > Children with fluoride-discolored teeth (dental fluorosis) are > > more > > > likely to have bone damage, according to a study published in the > > > journal "Fluoride." > > > > > > Despite living in a low-water-fluoride district, 132 Tibetan > > > children, aged 8 to 13-years-old, developed dental fluorosis from > > > dietary fluoride sources such as brick tea, a popular Asian drink, > > > fed to children as young as two years old. (1) > > > > > > Wrist x-rays reveal that 96%

of those children with dental > > fluorosis > > > had "developmental skeletal abnormalities" including carpal bone > > > hardening or thickening. > > > > > > "Therefore, dental fluorosis in children should be viewed as more > > > than a matter of cosmetic concern, since it can also be a sign of > > > early-stage skeletal fluorosis that might lead to full-scale > > > debilitating skeletal fluorosis in adulthood," write researchers > > Cao > > > and colleagues. > > > > > > Skeletal fluorosis with pain, stiffness and/or deforming bone > > > defects, is common in Nalgonda, India (See: > > > http://www.nalgonda.org/flourosis.php ) > > > > > > To avoid skeletal fluorosis in the U.S., the maximum-contaminant-> > > level of fluoride allowed in

drinking water by the Environmental > > > Protection Agency is 4 parts per million (4 milligrams per liter). > > > > > > But, some people exceed 4 milligrams daily from their diet, alone > > > (2). Up to 63% of children living in optimally fluoridated areas > > > (0.7 - 1.2 ppm) have dental fluorosis (3). More studies show a > > link > > > between dental fluorosis and bone damage. > > > > > > A British Medical Journal study reports that older white women > > from > > > fluoridated communities have a 32% higher rate of wrist fracture. > > > (4) > > > > > > A Mexican study links dental fluorosis to bone fractures. (5) > > > > > > Polish pediatricians found abnormal bone changes in 11 to 15 year-> > > olds exhibiting dental

fluorosis. (5a) > > > > > > A Rheumatology International study links naturally fluoridated > > water > > > to knee osteoarthritis in amounts many Americans consume daily. > > (6) > > > > > > Early fluorosis warning signs include joint pain, stomach pain, > > > excessive thirst and urination, muscle weakness, and/or anemia, > > > especially if accompanied by discoloration in the patient's front > > > row of teeth, according to Dr. A.K. Susheela, Director of India's > > > Fluorosis Research and Rural Development Foundation. (7) > > > > > > A U.S. woman's spine pain alleviated when she avoided fluoride.(8) > > > > > > "Americans are unaware that their arthritis or irritable bowel > > > syndrome could be fluoride-related," says attorney Paul

Beeber, > > > President, New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation. > > > > > > Additional bone/fluoride research can be found here: > > > http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/bone/index.html > > > > > > References: > > > > > > (1) > > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Espittle/381%2044.pdf > > > > > > (2) > > > > > http://iadr.confex.com/iadr/2002SanDiego/techprogram/abstract_20316.h> > > tm > > > > > > (3) > > > > > http://www.orgsites.com/ny/newyorkstatecoalitionopposedtofluoridation> > > /_pgg6.php3 > > > > > > (4) > > > http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?> > >

artid=27493 & rendertype=table & id=T4 > > > > > > 5) > > > http://www.fluoride-journal.com/01-34-2/342-139.pdf > > > > > > (5a) Chlebna-Sokól D(1), Czerwinski E(2), "Bone structure > > assessment > > > on radiographs of distal radial metaphysis in children with dental > > > fluorosis," Fluoride, 1993 26:l, 37-44. > > > http://www.fluoridation.com/isfr.htm > > > > > > (6) > > > > > http://www.orgsites.com/ny/newyorkstatecoalitionopposedtofluoridation> > > /_pgg7.php3 > > > > > > (7) > > > http://education.vsnl.com/fluorosis/information.html > > > > > > (8) > > > http://mednews.wustl.edu/news/page/normal/4607.html > > > Contact: > > > Paul S.

Beeber, President nyscof@a... > > > New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation, Inc. > > > PO Box 263, > > > Old Bethpage, NY 11804 > > > > > > SOURCE NYS Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation > > > <http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof> > > > http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof > > > <http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof> > > > > > > Fluoridation News Releases > > > <http://tinyurl.com/6kqtu>http://tinyurl.com/6kqtu>>>>>>>>