RE: Question for Doc or Zeb - SARAH

May 13, 2005

Dear Sarah,

Yes, I was asking from this point back to being born whether you had

experienced anything similar in the past. What about your mother, did she

have any similar experiences during the same time in her life? Some of it

sounds like menopause as Lisa suggested.

You mentioned having done several cleanses before, can you tell me

which ones, exactly?

I sounds like some hormonal changes are taking place but without a

bit more information who knows. Remember age and physical condition such as

weight, height energy output (exercise) etc can all play a part here.

I know I asked this before but I have to once again to be doubly

sure, are you on any vitamin regimen?

Are you on ANY type of medication for anything?

Sincerely,

Zeb

May 13, 2005

Perfect Sarah,

Stop taking hte pill. Tell hubby to use his own protection. Maybe you

could get opinions of other girls but each one I have worked with has had

teh EXACT same symptoms that you just listed including my Wife and my

Ex-Wife. Headaches, hot flahes, tummy aches (sometimes very intense)

dizziness and thier pallor used to get off and I'd think they were about to

pass out on me. This is everyday!

Remember this, Birth Control Pills change the hormones in the female

body. They alter what is really happening. Please get off them for your

own safety. Look into stats having to do with women and cancer and you'll

see the parallel the timeline of whebn doctors started putting womeon on

birth control. Think about it. My best advice, and I feel this is EXACTLY

what is causing your problems, is to get off it 100% and never look back.

Sincerely,

Zeb

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" sarah " <sarah.elizabeth

Friday, May 13, 2005 11:14 PM

Re: Herbal Remedies - Question for Doc or Zeb - SARAH

> Zeb,

> Thank you for your reply. I have considered hormone changes and might

> have to eventually accept that diagnosis but I cannot imagine having this

> kind of nausea for several years.. My GYN tested my hormone levels and it

> came back perimenapausal. She said I still ovulate monthly but expects

> that

> to stop in the next 5-8 yrs.

> As far as meds are concerned, I take a birth control pill that I have

> taken

> for several years now, a very low dose triphasal. I don't take anything

> else, even tylenol. I have a vitamin regimen that is very extensive. I

> have not changed anything since before the nausea so I don't attribute the

> nausea to that.

> As far as cleanses, I have done the oxy powder twice and 2 parasite

> formula

> cleanses.

> I might mention too that I have noticed some thinning in the temple

> area

> of my hairline which is odd for me.

> I have never really had a lot of trouble with my tummy as a child. I do

> recall being constipated a few times and I remember my Mom holding my hair

> as I threw up once when I had the flu. I have not thrown up in over 15

> yrs

> now so you can see how odd all this is.

> My Mom told me that she never had even the first " menopause " symptom, at

> 52,

> she just stopped menstruating.

> Thanks again for any insight you can offer.

> Sarah

>> Dear Sarah,

>>

>> Yes, I was asking from this point back to being born whether you had

>> experienced anything similar in the past. What about your mother, did

>> she

>> have any similar experiences during the same time in her life? Some of

>> it

>> sounds like menopause as Lisa suggested.

>>

>> You mentioned having done several cleanses before, can you tell me

>> which ones, exactly?

>>

>> I sounds like some hormonal changes are taking place but without a

>> bit more information who knows. Remember age and physical condition such

>> as

>> weight, height energy output (exercise) etc can all play a part here.

>>

>> I know I asked this before but I have to once again to be doubly

>> sure, are you on any vitamin regimen?

>>

>> Are you on ANY type of medication for anything?

>>

>> Sincerely,

>>

>> Zeb

>>

>> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

>> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

>> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

>> remedy.

>> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

>> to

>> prescribe for your own health.

>> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long

>> as

>> they behave themselves.

>> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

>> person

>> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

>> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products

>> from

>> list members, you are agreeing to

>> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

>> members free of any liability.

>>

>> Dr. Ian Shillington

>> Doctor of Naturopathy

>> Dr.IanShillington

>>

May 14, 2005

Zeb,

Thank you for your reply. I have considered hormone changes and might

have to eventually accept that diagnosis but I cannot imagine having this

kind of nausea for several years.. My GYN tested my hormone levels and it

came back perimenapausal. She said I still ovulate monthly but expects that

to stop in the next 5-8 yrs.

As far as meds are concerned, I take a birth control pill that I have taken

for several years now, a very low dose triphasal. I don't take anything

else, even tylenol. I have a vitamin regimen that is very extensive. I

have not changed anything since before the nausea so I don't attribute the

nausea to that.

As far as cleanses, I have done the oxy powder twice and 2 parasite formula

cleanses.

I might mention too that I have noticed some thinning in the temple area

of my hairline which is odd for me.

I have never really had a lot of trouble with my tummy as a child. I do

recall being constipated a few times and I remember my Mom holding my hair

as I threw up once when I had the flu. I have not thrown up in over 15 yrs

now so you can see how odd all this is.

My Mom told me that she never had even the first " menopause " symptom, at 52,

she just stopped menstruating.

Thanks again for any insight you can offer.

Sarah

> Dear Sarah,

>

> Yes, I was asking from this point back to being born whether you had

> experienced anything similar in the past. What about your mother, did she

> have any similar experiences during the same time in her life? Some of it

> sounds like menopause as Lisa suggested.

>

> You mentioned having done several cleanses before, can you tell me

> which ones, exactly?

>

> I sounds like some hormonal changes are taking place but without a

> bit more information who knows. Remember age and physical condition such

> as

> weight, height energy output (exercise) etc can all play a part here.

>

> I know I asked this before but I have to once again to be doubly

> sure, are you on any vitamin regimen?

>

> Are you on ANY type of medication for anything?

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Zeb

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural

> remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and

> to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long

> as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

> person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from

> list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

> members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

May 14, 2005

Birth Control Pills are so bad for your body. I am glad I threw mine

out months ago.

Hugs

Deana

May 15, 2005

herbal remedies , <Zeb@K...> wrote:

> Perfect Sarah,

>

> Stop taking hte pill. Tell hubby to use his own protection.

Maybe you

> could get opinions of other girls

Speaking as one of the " other girls " ...I agree 100% about getting off

the pill. I have been on some form of BC since I was 18, I am now

approaching 45. I was convinced by Dr.s that the BC was the only thing

that would stop my painful and excessive periods. They blamed my

inability to lose weight on the fact that I had to have the BC pills.

I finally started studying on my own and gee....do you think the idiot

drs would have thought to look into an endocrine imbalance with me?????

So I have been working on that balance on my own. Aside from diet and

exercize, I weaned myself off of the BC pills by using the Female

Formula from Doc. I am also using tincture of Cramp Bark for when I

start to have any uteran cramping. It tastes like C#$% but it REALLY

works well! The biggest thing I have found is how much better my

attitude is!! I can not believe how much more positive I am about

things! I have always considered myself to be a positive thinker, but

since being off the pill for 2 mths now, the difference is night and

day!

The best advice I can give is to take things slow and easy and really

listen to your body. It is going to take time for me to balance out

the hormones that have been artificially tweeked for so many years. I

am confident that my weight issues will also resolve as my hormones

become more in alignment.

Good luck to you in your health endeavors!

Elaine

May 15, 2005

What a great post Elaine. Thank you. Listening to your body is so

essential to getting well. Very well done hon.

Zeb

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Sunday, May 15, 2005 4:37 AM