Guest guest Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Hello everyone! A couple weeks ago I posed a question about a possible correlation between evening primrose and a sudden onset of hives... I must have stumped everyone because I didn't get a response! =o) LOL Well, I think I've zeroed in on the problem. I had the hives up and down my arms and legs for over a week with no relief (even after discontuing all my supplements and changing all my personal products), and last Wednesday broke down and went to the doctor because I was attending a 3-day conference out of state and leaving that evening. I received a shot in the hiney and 4 prescriptions, none of which I took. By the next morning, all my hives were completely gone, and I could focus on my conference in itch-free enjoyment. However, Saturday on the drive home they reappeared in fierce concentration on my legs. What had I done different than the 3 days before? It took me until yesterday afternoon to realize I had dairy! In a moment of weakness I had a chocolate shake from McD's (along with chicken strips)... 2 hours later, I had hives. By today they had pretty much subsided, so I decided to test my theory with a bowl of Breyer's ice cream after dinner... guess what? Arms and legs are covered with them! So I did an internet search on 'dairy causing hives' and found that trace amounts of penicillin in dairy, poultry and meat can cause hives, especially in fast-food meats. And guess what else? I've been allergic to penicillin since I was 25 years old. ISN'T THAT ODD??! Guess that gives me the final push to go totally organic with meat! We'll have to invest in a big freezer and buy beef from my sister... good thing we live in a farming community! =o) Just thought I'd share! Tracy in Ohio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 I am glad you found out what caused it. Do you eat a lot of dairy? I love yogurt. - Tracy in Ohio herbal remedies Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:47 PM Herbal Remedies - Itchy me! Hello everyone! A couple weeks ago I posed a question about a possible correlation between evening primrose and a sudden onset of hives... I must have stumped everyone because I didn't get a response! =o) LOL Well, I think I've zeroed in on the problem. I had the hives up and down my arms and legs for over a week with no relief (even after discontuing all my supplements and changing all my personal products), and last Wednesday broke down and went to the doctor because I was attending a 3-day conference out of state and leaving that evening. I received a shot in the hiney and 4 prescriptions, none of which I took. By the next morning, all my hives were completely gone, and I could focus on my conference in itch-free enjoyment. However, Saturday on the drive home they reappeared in fierce concentration on my legs. What had I done different than the 3 days before? It took me until yesterday afternoon to realize I had dairy! In a moment of weakness I had a chocolate shake from McD's (along with chicken strips)... 2 hours later, I had hives. By today they had pretty much subsided, so I decided to test my theory with a bowl of Breyer's ice cream after dinner... guess what? Arms and legs are covered with them! So I did an internet search on 'dairy causing hives' and found that trace amounts of penicillin in dairy, poultry and meat can cause hives, especially in fast-food meats. And guess what else? I've been allergic to penicillin since I was 25 years old. ISN'T THAT ODD??! Guess that gives me the final push to go totally organic with meat! We'll have to invest in a big freezer and buy beef from my sister... good thing we live in a farming community! =o)Just thought I'd share!Tracy in OhioFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Sounds great Tracy! Well done on solving that one :-)) love Lisa - Tracy in Ohio herbal remedies Wednesday, April 20, 2005 3:47 AM Herbal Remedies - Itchy me! It took me until yesterday afternoon to realize I had dairy! In a moment of weakness I had a chocolate shake from McD's (along with chicken strips)... 2 hours later, I had hives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Dear Tracy, I just had to reply to your post...similar thing happened to me recently!!! I am allergic to Penicillin as well and have been eating MOSTLY (working on TOTALLY ) organic for about six months. Wellll, I caved in and ate dinner with the family at the local Big Boy restaurant the day they had the seafood buffet. The next morning I awoke with the most aggravating, itchy, painful rash ALL OVER MY WHOLE BODY, EVEN IN MY MOUTH! I immediately called the Big Boy and spoke to the manager, and sure enough, the shrimp were farmed and not wild caught. I WILL NEVER ASSUME AGAIN!!! It took me two weeks to recover and I was just so mad at myself becuase I should have KNOWN BETTER! Well, I will just chaulk this one up to experience and hope that by reading this post, others will remember that most seafood served in restaurants is farmed (i.e. polluted with anti-biotics) and they should be prudent about eating it! PLEASE ask your server to find out whether the fish/or seafood you are about to order is WILD CAUGHT! Warm regards, Lori herbal remedies , " Dawn Hunt " <dawnhunt1@m...> wrote: > I am glad you found out what caused it. Do you eat a lot of dairy? I love yogurt. > - > Tracy in Ohio > herbal remedies > Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:47 PM > Herbal Remedies - Itchy me! > > > > > Hello everyone! A couple weeks ago I posed a question about a > possible correlation between evening primrose and a sudden onset of > hives... I must have stumped everyone because I didn't get a > response! =o) LOL Well, I think I've zeroed in on the problem. I > had the hives up and down my arms and legs for over a week with no > relief (even after discontuing all my supplements and changing all my > personal products), and last Wednesday broke down and went to the > doctor because I was attending a 3-day conference out of state and > leaving that evening. I received a shot in the hiney and 4 > prescriptions, none of which I took. By the next morning, all my > hives were completely gone, and I could focus on my conference in > itch-free enjoyment. However, Saturday on the drive home they > reappeared in fierce concentration on my legs. What had I done > different than the 3 days before? It took me until yesterday > afternoon to realize I had dairy! In a moment of weakness I had a > chocolate shake from McD's (along with chicken strips)... 2 hours > later, I had hives. By today they had pretty much subsided, so I > decided to test my theory with a bowl of Breyer's ice cream after > dinner... guess what? Arms and legs are covered with them! So I did > an internet search on 'dairy causing hives' and found that trace > amounts of penicillin in dairy, poultry and meat can cause hives, > especially in fast-food meats. And guess what else? I've been > allergic to penicillin since I was 25 years old. ISN'T THAT ODD??! > Guess that gives me the final push to go totally organic with meat! > We'll have to invest in a big freezer and buy beef from my sister... > good thing we live in a farming community! =o) > > Just thought I'd share! > > Tracy in Ohio > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington@G... > > > > -- ---------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 Tracey, This is an interesting story --- it makes sense to me. I try to avoid processed dairy as much as I can. Does your sister have any cows that she milks? You might be able to tolerate raw dairy products if the cows are not fed commercial foods, etc. I'm also in Ohio. What part of the state do you live in? Irene imclark > [Original Message] > Tracy in Ohio <tltucker > <herbal remedies > > 4/20/2005 4:10:51 AM > Herbal Remedies - Itchy me! > > > > > Hello everyone! A couple weeks ago I posed a question about a > possible correlation between evening primrose and a sudden onset of > hives... I must have stumped everyone because I didn't get a > response! =o) LOL Well, I think I've zeroed in on the problem. I > had the hives up and down my arms and legs for over a week with no > relief (even after discontuing all my supplements and changing all my > personal products), and last Wednesday broke down and went to the > doctor because I was attending a 3-day conference out of state and > leaving that evening. I received a shot in the hiney and 4 > prescriptions, none of which I took. By the next morning, all my > hives were completely gone, and I could focus on my conference in > itch-free enjoyment. However, Saturday on the drive home they > reappeared in fierce concentration on my legs. What had I done > different than the 3 days before? It took me until yesterday > afternoon to realize I had dairy! In a moment of weakness I had a > chocolate shake from McD's (along with chicken strips)... 2 hours > later, I had hives. By today they had pretty much subsided, so I > decided to test my theory with a bowl of Breyer's ice cream after > dinner... guess what? Arms and legs are covered with them! So I did > an internet search on 'dairy causing hives' and found that trace > amounts of penicillin in dairy, poultry and meat can cause hives, > especially in fast-food meats. And guess what else? I've been > allergic to penicillin since I was 25 years old. ISN'T THAT ODD??! > Guess that gives me the final push to go totally organic with meat! > We'll have to invest in a big freezer and buy beef from my sister... > good thing we live in a farming community! =o) > > Just thought I'd share! > > Tracy in Ohio > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 remember that most seafood > served in restaurants is farmed (i.e. polluted with anti-biotics) and > they should be prudent about eating it! PLEASE ask your server to > find out whether the fish/or seafood you are about to order is WILD > CAUGHT! Warm regards, Lori Lori, thanks for the heads up! I'm not a big seafood fan, but I do love fish... I never thought about fish containing it, too! I wonder how one goes about determining if store-bought fish is farmed? Just assume that it is and avoid it? Waaaagh, I'm destined to a life of salad! LOL! ;o) Tracy in Ohio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 herbal remedies , " imclark@e... " <imclark@e...> wrote: > > Tracey, > > This is an interesting story --- it makes sense to me. I try to avoid > processed dairy as much as I can. Does your sister have any cows that she milks? You might be able to tolerate raw dairy products if the cows are not fed commercial foods, etc. I'm also in Ohio. What part of the state do you live in? > > Irene > imclark@e... Hello Irene! I was completely flabbergasted when I found the information on the net. I couldn't for the life of me figure out why dairy would make me break out (double whammy with the chicken strips, apparently!) and when I started pulling up article after article telling me the same thing, I was amazed. DH still is perplexed, but did admit after dinner last night that we'll have to break down and buy a chest freezer and start buying locally grown meat. My sister only raises beef cattle (and hogs occasionally) so no help there with dairy. We live in a German Baptist community so there's a good chance of locating someone who raises their own chickens. (I just hope I can bypass the whole " behead, pluck, boil and pluck some more " routine! EEEEEEEWWWWWWWWW!! ROFL!) I used to work on a dairy farm when I was in high school and my parents still live just across the field from them, so I can check into that. I know they're fed hay and silage grown on their own farm but not sure about grains. Now that I think about it, I remember having to get the grain for the calves and heifers out of 80# sacks, so that means it comes from the local grain place, so I would assume that would make it OK? (? Might have to do more research into that area.) I'm not sure about their medical treatments, though. I'll have to call the guy and talk to him for a bit. Sorry, I'm rambling (thinking on screen, lol). Anyway, I live about 30 minutes west of Dayton (8 miles from the Indiana line). Tracy in Ohio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Hi Tracy, Never fear, I learned that I did not have to try to make educated guesses, they put on the package of all frozen seafood whether it is farmed or wild caught by law. I only buy frozen (NOT, I REPEAT NOT, PREVIOUSLY FROZEN) AND look for wild caught terms on the label. I also only eat seafood and fish that is ecologically harvested and never any species that are on endangered lists. As I inferred in my previous post, I have tried to be diligent in the past and actually talked to many actual fisherman (and I mean this is how they make their living) to try to prevent an episode from happening, but my lack of judgement in a weak moment zapped me! I consider myself well informed because I have done the research, but I just wanted to enjoy a family meal without being the " difficult " one for a change! I am just thankful that I was self-educated to the point that I knew immediately what had happened to me and thankful that I didn't go into anaphylactic shock at the restaurant-lol, sigh!!! It is just a crying shame that so many UNINFORMED people in this country are being CHEMICALLY ABUSED without even knowing it! In my humble opinion...IT IS A CRIME AND SHOULD BE ACKNOWLEDEGED AS SUCH BY OUR GOVERNMENT FOR ANY ANTIBIOTICS TO BE ADMINISTERED TO ANIMALS OR FISH THAT ARE TO BE ALLOWED INTO THE HUMAN FOOD CHAIN!!! If it is imperative to save the life of the animal, then please do so...just don't feed that animal to me, put it in a petting zoo or find another humane place for it to live out it's life. If enough of us speak out then we CAN make the fish, seafood and land animal farmers change! Thanks for letting me get on my soapbox and peace to all. Warm regards, Lori --- In herbal remedies , " Tracy in Ohio " <tltucker@v...> wrote: > > > remember that most seafood > > served in restaurants is farmed (i.e. polluted with anti-biotics) and > > they should be prudent about eating it! PLEASE ask your server to > > find out whether the fish/or seafood you are about to order is WILD > > CAUGHT! Warm regards, Lori > > > Lori, thanks for the heads up! I'm not a big seafood fan, but I do > love fish... I never thought about fish containing it, too! I wonder > how one goes about determining if store-bought fish is farmed? Just > assume that it is and avoid it? Waaaagh, I'm destined to a life of > salad! LOL! ;o) > > Tracy in Ohio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2005 Report Share Posted April 22, 2005 Hi Tracy, Lori...again-LOL! You just keep hitting on topics that I have been researching for the past couple of years. Ruminant animals are not supposed to eat grain, period! Cows have four stomachs for a reason- to break down the fiber of the grasses that are their natural diet. They do not need supplemental grain for existence, the only reason they are given grain is to get them to a marketable stage faster! And, most of the grain is contaminated with pesticide residue and if corn, then is probably GMO (genetically modified organism) to boot! Unless you are certain that the hay and grass that the cows are pastured on is pesticied/herbicide free, then do not eat it! I made my (MEAT AND POTATOES FAMILY) ABSTAIN from eating meat until I could find organic meat that I could trust the farmer. I love the moral concept of being a vegan...but I also agree that humans are omnivores and, if I can buy organically, ethically raised and slaughtered meat, then I have no qualms eating it. I have since found a source that I trust and am happy to report that my kids really like the organic meat BETTER!!! We still do not eat meat in any near the amounts that we ate before, but, like I said, I don't think it is a bad thing as long as you eat ORGANIC meat! My dream is to get a parcel of about 10 acres so I can raise my own cow, pig and chickens! I will keep you all posted and keep searching...you WILL find your answers! Warm regards, Lori > > > herbal remedies , " imclark@e... " <imclark@e...> > wrote: > > > > Tracey, > > > > This is an interesting story --- it makes sense to me. I try to avoid > > processed dairy as much as I can. Does your sister have any cows > that she milks? You might be able to tolerate raw dairy products if > the cows are not fed commercial foods, etc. I'm also in Ohio. What > part of the state do you live in? > > > > Irene > > imclark@e... > > Hello Irene! I was completely flabbergasted when I found the > information on the net. I couldn't for the life of me figure out why > dairy would make me break out (double whammy with the chicken strips, > apparently!) and when I started pulling up article after article > telling me the same thing, I was amazed. DH still is perplexed, but > did admit after dinner last night that we'll have to break down and buy > a chest freezer and start buying locally grown meat. My sister only > raises beef cattle (and hogs occasionally) so no help there with > dairy. We live in a German Baptist community so there's a good chance > of locating someone who raises their own chickens. (I just hope I can > bypass the whole " behead, pluck, boil and pluck some more " routine! > EEEEEEEWWWWWWWWW!! ROFL!) > > I used to work on a dairy farm when I was in high school and my parents > still live just across the field from them, so I can check into that. > I know they're fed hay and silage grown on their own farm but not sure > about grains. Now that I think about it, I remember having to get the > grain for the calves and heifers out of 80# sacks, so that means it > comes from the local grain place, so I would assume that would make it > OK? (? Might have to do more research into that area.) I'm not sure > about their medical treatments, though. I'll have to call the guy and > talk to him for a bit. > > Sorry, I'm rambling (thinking on screen, lol). Anyway, I live about 30 > minutes west of Dayton (8 miles from the Indiana line). > > Tracy in Ohio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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