ephedra ban still in place for high dosage..

[Guest guest]

Well, are small doses sufficient for uses such as lung problems, etc.? I don't

need a party

drug, and anyway, people are perhaps better informed about the risk of a

stimulating

herb.. I would use it only cautiously, anyway, but I'd prefer that the choice

was mine,

alone, of course.. It's not as risky as aspirin and other NSAIDs, from what I've

read..

(300,000 deaths a year??)

 

http://tinyurl.com/bpcmq

 

>High-Dose Ephedra Pills Still Illegal, FDA Says

 

Fri Apr 15, 5:49 PM ET

Health - Reuters

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The ban on sales of weight-loss herb ephedra remains in

place

for higher doses despite a court ruling that regulators failed to meet the

standard for

outlawing low doses, the Food and Drug Administration said on Friday.

 

The FDA outlawed ephedra a year ago after linking the herb to deaths, heart

attacks and

strokes. Ephedra was promoted for shedding pounds, boosting energy and enhancing

athletic performance, and makers insisted it was safe when used as directed.

 

On Thursday, a court in Utah ruled on a challenge to the ban from Nutraceutical

International Corp. and said the FDA had failed to show low ephedra doses posed

a

" significant or unreasonable risk. "

 

The decision prevents the FDA from enforcing its ban against products containing

10

milligrams or less of ephedra, FDA spokeswoman Kimberly Rawlings said.

 

" FDA interprets this to mean that the order remains in effect as to higher

dosages of these

products, " Rawlings said.

 

The agency " is considering all of its options with respect to next steps, " she

added.

 

The nationwide ephedra ban that took effect in April 2004 was the first for a

dietary

supplement and is considered a key test of the FDA's power over the supplement

industry.

 

Unlike prescription medicines, dietary supplements do not have to be proven safe

before

they can be sold. Under a 1994 law, the government must show a supplement is too

risky

to force it off the market.

[Guest guest]

> Well, are small doses sufficient for uses such as

> lung problems, etc.?

 

Hi Scott,

Chinese herbalists have been using ephedra (ma huang) for centuries.

Dosage is very easy to come to if you use their methods. There are 9

pulses on both wrists. There's perhaps maybe 30 or so major

variations of those pulses to determine coupled with an assessment

of the tongue, tone of voice, smell of body et cetera and then

compare it to 8 major principles or 5 phases of Chinese theory

 

Traditional Chinese medicine only uses a review of symptoms as a

minor observation. People usually don't have a clear image of what's

happening to them. Their interpretation tends to be shallow.

If they could pay attention with any depth they probably wouldn't

have gotten themself into trouble in the first place.

 

Herbs are rarely taken as a " simple " in Chinese herbal practice.

Using the assessment of the client's physical and energetic body a

small coven of herbs that balance each other's qualities and

direction of energetics a formula of portions would be

assembled for the client.

 

As the client's health adventure changes the formula would be

adjusted to accomodate the healing process.

To get a license to do that only takes about 3 to 4 years of post

graduate study and some clinical practice. Its a facinating subject,

though expensive, to be immersed in.

 

Penel

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Penel,

TCM sounds fascinating. I like the way you express yourself! Where do you

practice, or are

you currently in school?

 

I know some of us, myself included use a very crude approach to self-healing.

Still,

ultimately, it we who have to choose what professional to see, what food to eat,

what

herbs to take. I have gone to a couple of acupuncturists, but they told me I had

no real

health issues, at the time. I admire the 5 elements theory and the herbal

knowledge of the

TCM practitioners, a lot. I personally haven't found a lot of need for the

actual

acupuncture, maybe I haven't gone to the right practitioner. Also, today is my

51st

birthday, so probably, my healthcare needs will change over time. : )

 

Scott.

 

 

herbal remedies , " hyldemoer " <hyldemoer> wrote:

>

>

> > Well, are small doses sufficient for uses such as

> > lung problems, etc.?

>

> Hi Scott,

> Chinese herbalists have been using ephedra (ma huang) for centuries.

> Dosage is very easy to come to if you use their methods. There are 9

> pulses on both wrists. There's perhaps maybe 30 or so major

> variations of those pulses to determine coupled with an assessment

> of the tongue, tone of voice, smell of body et cetera and then

> compare it to 8 major principles or 5 phases of Chinese theory

>

> Traditional Chinese medicine only uses a review of symptoms as a

> minor observation. People usually don't have a clear image of what's

> happening to them. Their interpretation tends to be shallow.

> If they could pay attention with any depth they probably wouldn't

> have gotten themself into trouble in the first place.

>

> Herbs are rarely taken as a " simple " in Chinese herbal practice.

> Using the assessment of the client's physical and energetic body a

> small coven of herbs that balance each other's qualities and

> direction of energetics a formula of portions would be

> assembled for the client.

>

> As the client's health adventure changes the formula would be

> adjusted to accomodate the healing process.

> To get a license to do that only takes about 3 to 4 years of post

> graduate study and some clinical practice. Its a facinating subject,

> though expensive, to be immersed in.

>

> Penel

[Guest guest]

<snip>

> I know some of us, myself included use a very crude approach to

> self-healing. Still, ultimately, it we who have to choose what

> professional to see, what food to eat, what herbs to take. I have

> gone to a couple of acupuncturists, but they told me I had no real

> health issues, at the time. I admire the 5 elements theory and the

> herbal knowledge of the TCM practitioners, a lot. I personally

> haven't found a lot of need for the actual acupuncture, maybe I

> haven't gone to the right practitioner.

 

For the past 8 years I've been studying Asian bodywork therapy so it

was a natural that when I formalized my studies of herbalism I

sought out a school that could explain the Western herbs I was

growing by the various TCM theories.

 

But if you've been keeping an eye on herbalism schools you'll have

noticed there's a movement a foot to bring Energetics back into

Western herbalism.

 

Please note that I said, " back into Western herbalism " .

 

And TCM isn't the only energetic approach to the study of herbalism.

Here's a lovely interview with Jeremy Ross on the subject.

<http://www.jeremyross.com/interviews/history.html>

 

My own teachers use many of the Western historical resources Ross

mentions besides the Asian. Its a part of our Western herbal heritage.

 

Penel