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I have extreme insomnia due to lower back pain. I am seeing a

chiropractor for two months now but still have had no more then two to

three hours (maybe) of uninterupted sleep at night for many years

(about 4). Worse in the past 2 years since pregnancy and baby still

tosses and turns alot. But I wake up because of the pain. Is there a

Homeopathic or herbal that is quite effective in realiving pain besides

the one (cant remember name) that is used to make aspirin.

 

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Deana Brown

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I think it's white willow bark.

 

 

Deana [squeekyme]

Wednesday, April 06, 2005 7:09 AM

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I have extreme insomnia due to lower back pain. I am seeing a

chiropractor for two months now but still have had no more then two to

three hours (maybe) of uninterupted sleep at night for many years

(about 4). Worse in the past 2 years since pregnancy and baby still

tosses and turns alot. But I wake up because of the pain. Is there a

Homeopathic or herbal that is quite effective in realiving pain besides

the one (cant remember name) that is used to make aspirin.

 

Thanks

Deana Brown

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Doc has a Nerve Sedative formula that is used exactly for this type of problem. Check the files.

 

Zeb

 

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I think it's white willow bark.Deana [squeekyme]Wednesday, April 06, 2005 7:09 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Herbal or Homeopathic pain killersI have extreme insomnia due to lower back pain. I am seeing a chiropractor for two months now but still have had no more then two to three hours (maybe) of uninterupted sleep at night for many years (about 4). Worse in the past 2 years since pregnancy and baby still tosses and turns alot. But I wake up because of the pain. Is there a Homeopathic or herbal that is quite effective in realiving pain besides the one (cant remember name) that is used to make aspirin.ThanksDeana Brown-- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release 3/27/2005Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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Hi Deana,

 

Have you looked at the reasons for the back pain? There are good back

exercises in the files that I highly recommend. The pain could be caused

by lack of strength/support in the muscles of the back and abdomen.

Another reason for low back pain could be a full bowel. If you have ever

had any period of not being completely regular (2-4 bowel movements per

day) then you may have some impactions which are contributing to your

situation. I would recommend looking at the Intestinal Cleanse as well

as the back exercises. Any pain killers would only be addressing the

symptoms, not the cause.

 

Best,

Kelli

 

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| Deana [squeekyme]

| Wednesday, April 06, 2005 8:09 AM

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Yes, the doctors took some xrays yesterday and I have the same problems

as my daughter. or visa versa where the fecal matter is filled all the

way up under the lungs. It amazes me cause I take the intestinal

cleanse number 2 everyday as well as 1tbsp of flax seed oil. Lots of

water and other fluids like juice. I also take the Omega 3-6-9 I do not

take any other herbals any longer as it seemed I was dishing out a lot

of money for nothing. Except for at night I use the meletonin under the

tongue. But not sure how long I can take that. Like I said, I also

have lost 30lbs since the birth of my baby 13 months ago but today I

fainted in the doctor office. He said it maybe cause I am not intaking

enough food to balance out the outgo that Derek eats while nursing.

Who knows. I felt better after they gave me some crackers and sprite.

 

Hugs

Deana brown

 

Kelli Bever wrote:

 

>

> Hi Deana,

>

> Have you looked at the reasons for the back pain? There are good back

> exercises in the files that I highly recommend. The pain could be caused

> by lack of strength/support in the muscles of the back and abdomen.

> Another reason for low back pain could be a full bowel. If you have ever

> had any period of not being completely regular (2-4 bowel movements per

> day) then you may have some impactions which are contributing to your

> situation. I would recommend looking at the Intestinal Cleanse as well

> as the back exercises. Any pain killers would only be addressing the

> symptoms, not the cause.

>

> Best,

> Kelli

>

> |

> | Deana [squeekyme]

> | Wednesday, April 06, 2005 8:09 AM

> | herbal remedies

> | Re: Herbal Remedies - Herbal or Homeopathic pain killers

> |

> | I have extreme insomnia due to lower back pain.

>

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

> natural remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician

> and to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as

> long as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

> person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products

> from list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

> members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

>

> *

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Dena

I have insomnia, and back pain etc. for many many years. In Dec. i gave birth to 31 weeker twins because of gestational diabetes and severe preclampsia. I had yeast infections really bad because of the diabetes

 

with the pregnancy and toxins and meds etc. have you done a total body cleanse and maybe a yeast cleanse. i'm not a doctor but yeast is not only in the vaginal and mouth areas. Yeast can cause back pain and insomnia.

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OHHH Dean, boul pain.... I understand from my surgeries and anisesia OHHHH OHHH pain. you need to unload i'm not sure if it's all natural but it is safe for you, and the baby, they even sell it for infants in the liquid form..and it was used on my preemies. Glycerin supp. and glycerin liquid for infants. Sorry for the typos. Once again you might just have a lot of toxins from the pregnancy etc.

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Oh my gosh, Deana! You have to clean all that cr*p out!! Excuse my

directness... :)

 

Just out of curiosity, why are you taking IC #2? How many bowel

movements a day are you having? If you're not having 2-4, then you need

to add IC #1 to your routine and start getting that stuff outta there!

If you already are having 2-4, then I don't know what to recommend since

you're nursing. (I also don't know about recommending IC #1 when you're

nursing. Maybe Zeb will answer or you can call Doc if you haven't had

your free consult yet.)

 

Anyway, it's best to handle this " backup " as a cause of your back pain

rather than go to pain killers, even herbal, because you don't want your

cute little baby to get those herbs. He doesn't need them.

 

Best,

Kelli

 

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| Deana [squeekyme]

| Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:02 AM

| herbal remedies

| Re: Herbal Remedies - Herbal or Homeopathic pain killers

|

| Yes, the doctors took some xrays yesterday and I have the

| same problems

| as my daughter. or visa versa where the fecal matter is

| filled all the

| way up under the lungs.

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I have about 1 -2 a day for about 4 months now then some days I dont

have any for three days. I take the stuff in ic2 because i can buy it

at the local health food store. the stuff in ic 1 i cant find although

I did buy this stuff called detox blend sp-25 made from solaray and

colon care made by Yerba Prima that I use almost daily as well.

 

I am not sure what the deal is. The last two days I have been very

nausiated and almost fainted a second time today while driving. I am

not sure whats going on. I am a few days mentral late but have been

taking the half pill and my husband had vasectomy in January. Hmmmm.

 

 

Maybe i am just not eating enough to cause enough bowel movements. who

knows.

 

 

 

Deana

 

 

Kelli Bever wrote:

 

>

> Oh my gosh, Deana! You have to clean all that cr*p out!! Excuse my

> directness... :)

>

> Just out of curiosity, why are you taking IC #2? How many bowel

> movements a day are you having? If you're not having 2-4, then you need

> to add IC #1 to your routine and start getting that stuff outta there!

> If you already are having 2-4, then I don't know what to recommend since

> you're nursing. (I also don't know about recommending IC #1 when you're

> nursing. Maybe Zeb will answer or you can call Doc if you haven't had

> your free consult yet.)

>

> Anyway, it's best to handle this " backup " as a cause of your back pain

> rather than go to pain killers, even herbal, because you don't want your

> cute little baby to get those herbs. He doesn't need them.

>

> Best,

> Kelli

>

> |

> | Deana [squeekyme]

> | Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:02 AM

> | herbal remedies

> | Re: Herbal Remedies - Herbal or Homeopathic pain killers

> |

> | Yes, the doctors took some xrays yesterday and I have the

> | same problems

> | as my daughter. or visa versa where the fecal matter is

> | filled all the

> | way up under the lungs.

>

>

> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:

> 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.

> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any

> natural remedy.

> 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician

> and to

> prescribe for your own health.

> We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as

> long as

> they behave themselves.

> Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any

> person

> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.

> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products

> from list members, you are agreeing to

> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and

> members free of any liability.

>

> Dr. Ian Shillington

> Doctor of Naturopathy

> Dr.IanShillington

>

>

> *

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Dear Deana,

 

As far as I know no IC#1 while breast feeding but I'll double check this.

 

You need to stop ALL bread, pasta, meat, and dairy intake. Just stop it. Switch over to Lots of fruits and lots of vegetables. You must get Total Nutrition. All of these three will help you move your bowels and will feed you and the baby.

 

Once again: NO Dairy, Meats, Pastas etc. No Protein bars or anything that lasts longer than 2 weeks in a wrapper without being refrigerated. This may seem hard but it'll save you $1,000's in the upcoming future.

 

Zeb

 

 

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Deana

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I have about 1 -2 a day for about 4 months now then some days I dont have any for three days. I take the stuff in ic2 because i can buy it at the local health food store. the stuff in ic 1 i cant find although I did buy this stuff called detox blend sp-25 made from solaray and colon care made by Yerba Prima that I use almost daily as well.I am not sure what the deal is. The last two days I have been very nausiated and almost fainted a second time today while driving. I am not sure whats going on. I am a few days mentral late but have been taking the half pill and my husband had vasectomy in January. Hmmmm.Maybe i am just not eating enough to cause enough bowel movements. who knows.DeanaKelli Bever wrote:>> Oh my gosh, Deana! You have to clean all that cr*p out!! Excuse my> directness... :)>> Just out of curiosity, why are you taking IC #2? How many bowel> movements a day are you having? If you're not having 2-4, then you need> to add IC #1 to your routine and start getting that stuff outta there!> If you already are having 2-4, then I don't know what to recommend since> you're nursing. (I also don't know about recommending IC #1 when you're> nursing. Maybe Zeb will answer or you can call Doc if you haven't had> your free consult yet.)>> Anyway, it's best to handle this "backup" as a cause of your back pain> rather than go to pain killers, even herbal, because you don't want your> cute little baby to get those herbs. He doesn't need them.>> Best,> Kelli>> | > | Deana [squeekyme]> | Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:02 AM> | herbal remedies > | Re: Herbal Remedies - Herbal or Homeopathic pain killers> |> | Yes, the doctors took some xrays yesterday and I have the> | same problems> | as my daughter. or visa versa where the fecal matter is> | filled all the> | way up under the lungs.>>> Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.> 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any > natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician > and to> prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as > long as> they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any > person> following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.> It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products > from list members, you are agreeing to> be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and > members free of any liability.>> Dr. Ian Shillington> Doctor of Naturopathy> Dr.IanShillington>> *

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