Guest guest Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 I'm thinking of up grading to a reverse osmosis water purifier. I was wondering if folks on list had any stories about theirs that they'd like to share. Is there anything better for home use that doesn't cost a small inheritance? Penel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 In a message dated 3/18/05 2:25:28 PM, hyldemoer writes: << I'm thinking of up grading to a reverse osmosis water purifier. I was wondering if folks on list had any stories about theirs that they'd like to share. Is there anything better for home use that doesn't cost a small inheritance? >> Hi Penel; we have a Multi-Pure system that we've had for about 10 years now. They have a web site, though I'm not sure the addy. They have under the counter, above the counter, whole house ... you name it. We have friends who have a reverse osmosis, and it wastes 2-3 gallons for every gallon you get. If you have a family of any size, the water output per minute is quite slow as well. The only difference between multi-pure and reverse osmosis is that the r.o. will take out viruses, whereas multipure probably will not. If you're on a country well, you probably won't have to worry about it anyway. I should introduce myself: we're a family of 9, have a small (7 acre) organic farm. I'm an <old> RN, and a family herbalist for the past 10 years. I teach classes for moms and write articles; and produce all our own products as well. We have a noah's ark of animals and enjoy it immensely. Now, I'm getting a chance to try my herbs on our animals! the group should be interesting! diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 2005 Report Share Posted March 18, 2005 Hi Penel, Doc recently posted (or Zeb did some info on distilled water. That is really the best water to be drinking. You can get a home water distiller at Sears for just under $200. At least that's how much mine cost. It makes about a gallon of distilled water in about 3 hours. The second best water is reverse osmosis, but you have to be sure and keep the filters cleaned, etc. Check the archives if you missed that post on water. Best, Kelli | | hyldemoer [hyldemoer] | Friday, March 18, 2005 8:52 AM | herbal remedies | Herbal Remedies - purified water | | I'm thinking of up grading to a reverse osmosis water purifier. I was | wondering if folks on list had any stories about theirs that they'd | like to share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 Reverse osmosis filtration system is the best for home use. The only fact we are facing is the high cost of the filters. In order to use this filter for a longer time we have attached a sediment filter and a carbon filter just in the entrance of the system. By using such a system, the water first passes through these two filters and than reaches to the reverse osmosis filter. This makes the high cost of the reverse osmosis stage last longer. Just as a hint; RO filter costs about 100 US$, Sediment filter 25 US$ and carbon filter 30 US$. Whatever the filtration system you are using, the most important subject is you have to use this water just after the filtration. If you keep the water in a container for future use, some kind of contamination may occur. Scientifically it is accepted that after 8 hours following RO filtration, the water is accepted as contaminated.Herbmednurse wrote: In a message dated 3/18/05 2:25:28 PM, hyldemoer writes:<< I'm thinking of up grading to a reverse osmosis water purifier. I waswondering if folks on list had any stories about theirs that they'dlike to share.Is there anything better for home use that doesn't cost a smallinheritance? >>Hi Penel;we have a Multi-Pure system that we've had for about 10 years now. They have a web site, though I'm not sure the addy. They have under the counter, above the counter, whole house ... you name it. We have friends who have a reverse osmosis, and it wastes 2-3 gallons for every gallon you get. If you have a family of any size, the water output per minute is quite slow as well. The only difference between multi-pure and reverse osmosis is that the r.o. will take out viruses, whereas multipure probably will not. If you're on a country well, you probably won't have to worry about it anyway.I should introduce myself: we're a family of 9, have a small (7 acre) organic farm. I'm an <old> RN, and a family herbalist for the past 10 years. I teach classes for moms and write articles; and produce all our own products as well. We have a noah's ark of animals and enjoy it immensely. Now, I'm getting a chance to try my herbs on our animals! the group should be interesting! :)dianeFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 We have a reverse osmosis purifier and I LOVE IT! The water tastes so good. When I was pregnant I was really sensitive to water. Tap water made me throw up so fast I couldn't touch it or drink it no matter how dehydrated it was. I could tolerate bottled water, but I hated the plastic taste. THe filtered water from home tasted almost sweet it was so good. Ramona Quoting hyldemoer <hyldemoer: > > > > I'm thinking of up grading to a reverse osmosis water purifier. I was > wondering if folks on list had any stories about theirs that they'd > like to share. > > Is there anything better for home use that doesn't cost a small > inheritance? > > Penel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 If you intend on keeping the water, dose it with 1/4 0z. hydrogen peroxide per gallon. -- In herbal remedies , ahmet kalipci <ahmetkalipci> wrote: > Reverse osmosis filtration system is the best for home use. The only fact we are facing is the high cost of the filters. In order to use this filter for a longer time we have attached a sediment filter and a carbon filter just in the entrance of the system. By using such a system, the water first passes through these two filters and than reaches to the reverse osmosis filter. This makes the high cost of the reverse osmosis stage last longer. > Just as a hint; RO filter costs about 100 US$, Sediment filter 25 US$ and carbon filter 30 US$. > Whatever the filtration system you are using, the most important subject is you have to use this water just after the filtration. If you keep the water in a container for future use, some kind of contamination may occur. Scientifically it is accepted that after 8 hours following RO filtration, the water is accepted as contaminated. > > Herbmednurse@a... wrote: > > > In a message dated 3/18/05 2:25:28 PM, hyldemoer writes: > > << I'm thinking of up grading to a reverse osmosis water purifier. I was > > wondering if folks on list had any stories about theirs that they'd > > like to share. > > > Is there anything better for home use that doesn't cost a small > > inheritance? >> > > Hi Penel; > we have a Multi-Pure system that we've had for about 10 years now. They have > a web site, though I'm not sure the addy. They have under the counter, above > the counter, whole house ... you name it. > We have friends who have a reverse osmosis, and it wastes 2-3 gallons for > every gallon you get. If you have a family of any size, the water output per > minute is quite slow as well. The only difference between multi- pure and reverse > osmosis is that the r.o. will take out viruses, whereas multipure probably > will not. If you're on a country well, you probably won't have to worry about > it anyway. > > I should introduce myself: we're a family of 9, have a small (7 acre) > organic farm. I'm an <old> RN, and a family herbalist for the past 10 years. I > teach classes for moms and write articles; and produce all our own products as > well. We have a noah's ark of animals and enjoy it immensely. Now, I'm getting > a chance to try my herbs on our animals! > the group should be interesting! > diane > > > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington@G... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Keep in mind that water is the " universal solvent " . The more pure the water is the more solvent it becomes. This is very important to keep in mind because water does not have a brain. It does not say " I will only dissolve the bad stuff and leave the good stuff " . Water can also saturate with beneficial materials, such as minerals, and can remove these from the body. Personally I prefer spring water since it is already pretty much saturated, and therefore has lost most of its solvency. In this case the water does an exchange reaction where it leaves behind the beneficial minerals in exchange for other substances nt the body. If you are going to drink R/O or distilled water I highly recommend that you add some silica or trace mineral drops to the water to reduce its solvency somewhat. herbal remedies , " hyldemoer " <hyldemoer> wrote: > > > I'm thinking of up grading to a reverse osmosis water purifier. I was > wondering if folks on list had any stories about theirs that they'd > like to share. > > Is there anything better for home use that doesn't cost a small > inheritance? > > Penel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 That is a good idea since purified water breeds bacteria like crazy, not to mention the fact that it draws carbon dioxide from the air to form carbonic acid, which will help stabilize the peroxide. Peroxides are more stable in an acidic environment and decompose readily in a very alkaline environment. Though I think it is important to point out 3% peroxide solution so someone does not decide to try this with 35% food grade peroxide. You can also ozonate water to form peroxides, and it will not contain stabilizers like in the brown bottled 3% peroxides. These stabilizers include phosphoric acid and sodium thiosulfate, also referred to as DeChlor, photographic hypo, or truth serum :-) herbal remedies , " tempo33x " <tempo33x> wrote: > > > If you intend on keeping the water, dose it with 1/4 0z. hydrogen > peroxide per gallon. > > > > > -- In herbal remedies , ahmet kalipci > <ahmetkalipci> wrote: > > Reverse osmosis filtration system is the best for home use. The > only fact we are facing is the high cost of the filters. In order to > use this filter for a longer time we have attached a sediment filter > and a carbon filter just in the entrance of the system. By using > such a system, the water first passes through these two filters and > than reaches to the reverse osmosis filter. This makes the high cost > of the reverse osmosis stage last longer. > > Just as a hint; RO filter costs about 100 US$, Sediment filter 25 > US$ and carbon filter 30 US$. > > Whatever the filtration system you are using, the most important > subject is you have to use this water just after the filtration. If > you keep the water in a container for future use, some kind of > contamination may occur. Scientifically it is accepted that after 8 > hours following RO filtration, the water is accepted as contaminated. > > > > Herbmednurse@a... wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 3/18/05 2:25:28 PM, hyldemoer writes: > > > > << I'm thinking of up grading to a reverse osmosis water purifier. > I was > > > > wondering if folks on list had any stories about theirs that they'd > > > > like to share. > > > > > > Is there anything better for home use that doesn't cost a small > > > > inheritance? >> > > > > Hi Penel; > > we have a Multi-Pure system that we've had for about 10 years > now. They have > > a web site, though I'm not sure the addy. They have under the > counter, above > > the counter, whole house ... you name it. > > We have friends who have a reverse osmosis, and it wastes 2-3 > gallons for > > every gallon you get. If you have a family of any size, the water > output per > > minute is quite slow as well. The only difference between multi- > pure and reverse > > osmosis is that the r.o. will take out viruses, whereas multipure > probably > > will not. If you're on a country well, you probably won't have to > worry about > > it anyway. > > > > I should introduce myself: we're a family of 9, have a small (7 > acre) > > organic farm. I'm an <old> RN, and a family herbalist for the > past 10 years. I > > teach classes for moms and write articles; and produce all our own > products as > > well. We have a noah's ark of animals and enjoy it immensely. > Now, I'm getting > > a chance to try my herbs on our animals! > > the group should be interesting! > > diane > > > > > > > > > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any > natural remedy. > > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own > physician and to > > prescribe for your own health. > > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here > as long as > > they behave themselves. > > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and > any person > > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own > risk. > > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or > products from list members, you are agreeing to > > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner > and members free of any liability. > > > > Dr. Ian Shillington > > Doctor of Naturopathy > > Dr.IanShillington@G... > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 What?! -S hveragerthi [hveragerthi] Monday, March 28, 2005 9:16 PM herbal remedies Herbal Remedies - Re: purified water That is a good idea since purified water breeds bacteria like crazy, not to mention the fact that it draws carbon dioxide from the air to form carbonic acid, which will help stabilize the peroxide. Peroxides are more stable in an acidic environment and decompose readily in a very alkaline environment. -- Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.4 - Release 3/27/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Which part are you questioning? Yes, pure water breeds bacteria, and goes acidic. This is a major problem with type 1 (ultrapure) water. This is why the water has to remain in continual filtering until it is used. Here is a link talking about bacterial contamination and carbon dioxide dissolving in ultrapure water, which is actually more pure that R/O or distilled water: http://aem.asm.org/cgi/content/full/68/4/1548 " The industrial production of UPW is a complex multistep process, which involves two major stages referred to as pretreatment and polishing (Fig. 1). A variety of steps are included in many UPW production systems (e.g., filtration, UV light treatment, heat treatment, and ozonation) to remove and destroy bacteria. In particular, treatment with UV254 light and ozonation are present in some parts of a facility solely to prevent microbial contamination. Nitrogen gas is often used instead of air above stored UPW to prevent carbon dioxide and oxygen from dissolving in the water. It is imperative that UPW is kept carbon dioxide-free to prevent ionic loading on the mixed-bed ion-exchange resins, while the lowering of oxygen concentration should minimize bacterial growth (Fig. 1). Despite these precautions, piping, membranes, tanks, and other surfaces within the UPW system provide favorable places for bacterial adhesion and cell growth. The complete removal of contaminating microorganisms is considered to be nearly impossible (11, 20). " http://www.ilpi.com/msds/ref/carbondioxide.html " Carbon dioxide dissolves slightly in water to form a weak acid called carbonic acid, H2CO3 " Keep in mind again that the more pure a water is the more solvent it becomes. This is why the more pure water is the quicker it becomes acidic when exposed to air. As far as my comments about hydrogen peroxide. The 3% solution found in the brown bottles contain stabilizers, generally phosphoric acid or sodium thiosulfate because they acidify the solution. Alkalinity decomposes peroxide. If you want to test the process add some peroxide to some baking soda and see how fast it decomposes. http://www.dcchem.co.kr/english/product/p_basic/p_basic14.htm " The decomposition of H2O2 is also affected by such factors as described below. - The catalytic trace of cation - Elements of univalence or more such as Fe, Cu, Ni, Cr, Pb and Mn - Active Surface : Especially for rough surfaces - Suspend Matter : Dust Particle - pH : Decomposition accelerates in alkaline condition. " http://www.du.edu/~jcalvert/phys/perox.htm " The reaction is catalyzed by metals, most acids (phosphoric seems to preserve the peroxide), and even surface roughness. " herbal remedies , " Shelby Blakely " <sblakely@b...> wrote: > What?! > -S > > > hveragerthi [hveragerthi] > Monday, March 28, 2005 9:16 PM > herbal remedies > Herbal Remedies - Re: purified water > > > > > > That is a good idea since purified water breeds bacteria like crazy, > not to mention the fact that it draws carbon dioxide from the air to > form carbonic acid, which will help stabilize the peroxide. Peroxides > are more stable in an acidic environment and decompose readily in a > very alkaline environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 where do you get your information concering these properties? just curious:)hveragerthi <hveragerthi wrote: Keep in mind that water is the "universal solvent". The more pure the water is the more solvent it becomes. This is very important to keep in mind because water does not have a brain. It does not say "I will only dissolve the bad stuff and leave the good stuff". Water can also saturate with beneficial materials, such as minerals, and can remove these from the body. Personally I prefer spring water since it is already pretty much saturated, and therefore has lost most of its solvency. In this case the water does an exchange reaction where it leaves behind the beneficial minerals in exchange for other substances nt the body. If you are going to drink R/O or distilled water I highly recommend that you add some silica or trace mineral drops to the water to reduce its solvency somewhat.--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 The problem with Spring water is one of contamination. Most wells (artesian or otherwise) are somewhat contaminatied in this day and age. The commercials with beautiful, flowing, mountain spring water are usually no more than aesthetic hype. Put enough beauty into the picture and you can sell shit (literally). Penel, you have the right idea and going with an RO unit is a good idea. Best is Distilled (nothing short of techincal grade deionized oxygenated water is really pure, and you wouldn't want that), and regular home distilleries take out most of the really harmful compounds and elements. Drinking Technical Grade Distilled water would be harmful, but the chances of anyone here actually getting this is next to nil. The units that are used to produce this "quality" of distilled water cost a fortune and are ususally custom made by high tech people and are used for industrial purposes only. People have these units mixed up with regular home units that take out almost all harmful minerals but are great for drinking. This is another area where one can twist the truth to serve another end. There is Distilled water and then there is Technical Grade Distilled water. There is a world of difference between the two. You want a regular home distilled unit. This produces water that is empty enough to get the greatest amount of biochemicals out of your herbs you are using, while not leaching vital mineral out of your body. The technical grade distilleries which use steam distillation, then a deionization process, then an oxygenation process and then sometimes an electrolysis process and which also cost a fortune would not even be available to the general public so is not even a concern. They are not in the same boat, so are nothing to worry about. That said! Distilled water is BEST!!! Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-447-5282Doc - hveragerthi herbal remedies Tuesday, March 29, 2005 12:10 AM Herbal Remedies - Re: purified water Keep in mind that water is the "universal solvent". The more pure the water is the more solvent it becomes. This is very important to keep in mind because water does not have a brain. It does not say "I will only dissolve the bad stuff and leave the good stuff". Water can also saturate with beneficial materials, such as minerals, and can remove these from the body. Personally I prefer spring water since it is already pretty much saturated, and therefore has lost most of its solvency. In this case the water does an exchange reaction where it leaves behind the beneficial minerals in exchange for other substances nt the body. If you are going to drink R/O or distilled water I highly recommend that you add some silica or trace mineral drops to the water to reduce its solvency somewhat.herbal remedies , "hyldemoer" <hyldemoer> wrote:> > > I'm thinking of up grading to a reverse osmosis water purifier. I was> wondering if folks on list had any stories about theirs that they'd> like to share.> > Is there anything better for home use that doesn't cost a small> inheritance?> > Penel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 <snip> > Drinking Technical Grade Distilled water would be > harmful, but the chances of anyone here actually > getting this is next to nil. The units that are used > to produce this " quality " of distilled water cost a > fortune and are ususally custom made by <snip> > They are not in the same boat, so are nothing to worry > about. That said! Distilled water is BEST!!! I had this conversation with my husband. He used to work the biochemistry dept. at a major university. After doing some reasearch on my own I came to the conclusion to have our house water tested. We live in Chicago. Chicago adds chemicals but they also do a lot to take out chemicals and bacteria as well. If our water is very polluted its probably from the pipes coming from the water treatment plant and the aged pipes in my own house. Home water distillers aren't very expensive. I spent more on my triple beam scale. Its my plan to invest in a small water distiller now and use it excusively for making medicines. If water can leach chemicals as a solvent, then wouldn't distilled water used for an infusion or decoction or alcohol/water blend used in tinctures come closer to resembling the mineral balance found in the herb itself? Penel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Right on hon. I never use anything but distilled water in any of my formulae. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-447-5282Doc - hyldemoer herbal remedies Tuesday, March 29, 2005 3:47 PM Herbal Remedies - Re: purified water I had this conversation with my husband. He used to work thebiochemistry dept. at a major university. After doing some reasearch on my own I came to the conclusion to haveour house water tested. We live in Chicago. Chicago adds chemicalsbut they also do a lot to take out chemicals and bacteria as well. Ifour water is very polluted its probably from the pipes coming from the water treatment plant and the aged pipes in my own house.Home water distillers aren't very expensive. I spent more on my triple beam scale. Its my plan to invest in a small water distiller now and use itexcusively for making medicines.If water can leach chemicals as a solvent, then wouldn't distilledwater used for an infusion or decoction or alcohol/water blend used in tinctures come closer to resembling the mineral balance found in the herb itself?Penel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2005 Report Share Posted March 29, 2005 Is distilled water I buy from the supermarket or Walmart bad? I thought distilled was distilled. Thanks. --- " Dr. Ian Shillington " <DocShillington wrote: > The problem with Spring water is one of > contamination. Most wells (artesian or otherwise) > are somewhat contaminatied in this day and age. The > commercials with beautiful, flowing, mountain spring > water are usually no more than aesthetic hype. Put > enough beauty into the picture and you can sell shit > (literally). > > Penel, you have the right idea and going with an RO > unit is a good idea. Best is Distilled (nothing > short of techincal grade deionized oxygenated water > is really pure, and you wouldn't want that), and > regular home distilleries take out most of the > really harmful compounds and elements. > > Drinking Technical Grade Distilled water would be > harmful, but the chances of anyone here actually > getting this is next to nil. The units that are > used to produce this " quality " of distilled water > cost a fortune and are ususally custom made by high > tech people and are used for industrial purposes > only. People have these units mixed up with regular > home units that take out almost all harmful minerals > but are great for drinking. This is another area > where one can twist the truth to serve another end. > There is Distilled water and then there is Technical > Grade Distilled water. There is a world of > difference between the two. You want a regular home > distilled unit. This produces water that is empty > enough to get the greatest amount of biochemicals > out of your herbs you are using, while not leaching > vital mineral out of your body. > > The technical grade distilleries which use steam > distillation, then a deionization process, then an > oxygenation process and then sometimes an > electrolysis process and which also cost a fortune > would not even be available to the general public so > is not even a concern. They are not in the same > boat, so are nothing to worry about. That said! > Distilled water is BEST!!! > > Love, > > Doc > > Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D. > 727-447-5282 > Doc > - > hveragerthi > herbal remedies > Tuesday, March 29, 2005 12:10 AM > Herbal Remedies - Re: purified water > > > > > Keep in mind that water is the " universal > solvent " . The more pure the > water is the more solvent it becomes. This is very > important to keep in > mind because water does not have a brain. It does > not say " I will only > dissolve the bad stuff and leave the good stuff " . > Water can also > saturate with beneficial materials, such as > minerals, and can remove > these from the body. Personally I prefer spring > water since it is > already pretty much saturated, and therefore has > lost most of its > solvency. In this case the water does an exchange > reaction where it > leaves behind the beneficial minerals in exchange > for other substances > nt the body. If you are going to drink R/O or > distilled water I highly > recommend that you add some silica or trace > mineral drops to the water > to reduce its solvency somewhat. > > herbal remedies , > " hyldemoer " <hyldemoer> > wrote: > > > > > > I'm thinking of up grading to a reverse osmosis > water purifier. I was > > wondering if folks on list had any stories about > theirs that they'd > > like to share. > > > > Is there anything better for home use that > doesn't cost a small > > inheritance? > > > > Penel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2005 Report Share Posted March 30, 2005 Dear Konstantin, It is not necessarily "bad". But depending on your source it might not be "great" either. It is certainly better than tap water. Most of the water in your Walmarts, Safeways, and Publix' are bottled in #2 plastic which is fairly stable, though will leach over a period of time. The longer you keep this water, the more chance of contamination you'd get from the plastic itself. A more stable plastic is your #1. This is the best to use if you're going to keep distilled water in any kind of plastic for any period of time. The absolute best of course is GLASS! Valorie and I use our left over glass gallon jugs from our organic apple juice that we buy, and then distill our own water to put in it. Not only do you recycle this way, but you're actually keeping it as pure as you can. Your professional water companies almost always store and deliver water in the 5 gallon #1 plastic containers, and that is about as good as you can get. They have certain standards that are far and above the grocery store level, so if you're buying, this is the way I'd go if I were you. The #1 plastic can store distilled water for a much longer time with little to no leaching. Hope this helps. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-447-5282Doc - Konstantin Freger herbal remedies Tuesday, March 29, 2005 5:39 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: purified water Is distilled water I buy from the supermarket orWalmart bad? I thought distilled was distilled.Thanks.--- "Dr. Ian Shillington" <DocShillingtonwrote:> The problem with Spring water is one of> contamination. Most wells (artesian or otherwise)> are somewhat contaminatied in this day and age. The> commercials with beautiful, flowing, mountain spring> water are usually no more than aesthetic hype. Put> enough beauty into the picture and you can sell shit> (literally).> > Penel, you have the right idea and going with an RO> unit is a good idea. Best is Distilled (nothing> short of techincal grade deionized oxygenated water> is really pure, and you wouldn't want that), and> regular home distilleries take out most of the> really harmful compounds and elements.> > Drinking Technical Grade Distilled water would be> harmful, but the chances of anyone here actually> getting this is next to nil. The units that are> used to produce this "quality" of distilled water> cost a fortune and are ususally custom made by high> tech people and are used for industrial purposes> only. People have these units mixed up with regular> home units that take out almost all harmful minerals> but are great for drinking. This is another area> where one can twist the truth to serve another end. > There is Distilled water and then there is Technical> Grade Distilled water. There is a world of> difference between the two. You want a regular home> distilled unit. This produces water that is empty> enough to get the greatest amount of biochemicals> out of your herbs you are using, while not leaching> vital mineral out of your body.> > The technical grade distilleries which use steam> distillation, then a deionization process, then an> oxygenation process and then sometimes an> electrolysis process and which also cost a fortune> would not even be available to the general public so> is not even a concern. They are not in the same> boat, so are nothing to worry about. That said! > Distilled water is BEST!!!> > Love,> > Doc> > Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.> 727-447-5282> Doc - > hveragerthi > herbal remedies > Tuesday, March 29, 2005 12:10 AM> Herbal Remedies - Re: purified water> > > > > Keep in mind that water is the "universal> solvent". The more pure the > water is the more solvent it becomes. This is very> important to keep in > mind because water does not have a brain. It does> not say "I will only > dissolve the bad stuff and leave the good stuff".> Water can also > saturate with beneficial materials, such as> minerals, and can remove > these from the body. Personally I prefer spring> water since it is > already pretty much saturated, and therefore has> lost most of its > solvency. In this case the water does an exchange> reaction where it > leaves behind the beneficial minerals in exchange> for other substances > nt the body. If you are going to drink R/O or> distilled water I highly > recommend that you add some silica or trace> mineral drops to the water > to reduce its solvency somewhat.> > herbal remedies ,> "hyldemoer" <hyldemoer> > wrote:> > > > > > I'm thinking of up grading to a reverse osmosis> water purifier. I was> > wondering if folks on list had any stories about> theirs that they'd> > like to share.> > > > Is there anything better for home use that> doesn't cost a small> > inheritance?> > > > Penel Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. 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