Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Judy, Many people think that cramps and spasms are caused by a LACK of calcium, but from what I have learned, Calcium shortens and CONTRACTS the muscles, but magnesium RELAXES them. I have experienced this myself when I took exta calcium for something without increasing magnesium, and I began to have spasms. Paul Bergner says that calcium is in general spasmodic and magnesium being a calcium channel blocker is antispasmodic. Cal to mag ratio in the body should be about 2:1. Straight mag 700-800 mg a day of mag citrate. He also gives a recipe for tight muscles of equal parts of lobelia and cramp bark tinctures added to some almond oil and massage that into the affected area. You could warm this in a double boiler first. I've also read that dehydration/ and or inactivity could also cause cramping. Sandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Hi Judy, Those cramps must be very uncomfortable. Potassium could also be a problem. You might want to look at your diet and see what has changed in the last couple of weeks. Then I would look at your vitamins or supplements you take. I certainly am not an expert in this field, but whenever hubbins makes too many trips up and down a ladder, he will get cramps in his legs during the night. By taking potassium, he prevents that. When he works he drinks more water and or perspires so he has to adjust his supplements. If he has forgotten, then he has to use a massage lotion for the muscle. Hugs, Buffy , " loghrydolls " <JudyLoghry1942@a...> wrote: > > > I am new to the group and really enjoying reading all the valuable > information.My question is does anybody have any information > >>besides ;ack of calcium would cause sever muscle cramping. I have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 try eating a banana. Low potassium will cause muscle cramps too. When I have a lot of muscle cramping in megs. eating a banana will help most of the time. Paula ........in Michigan Coming soon Farm Fresh Soaps & Candles I am new to the group and really enjoying reading all the valuable information.My question is does anybody have any information besides lack of calcium would cause sever muscle cramping. I have them in my feet, legs, had some in my rib cage and also in my upper arms. I have Arthritis, Osteoperosis, fibromyalgia. Was in a sever car wreck 2 1/2 years ago that shattered my right hip, tore my right knee open to the bone, broke ribs, and severly sprained both ankles, not to mention all the bruising. This bad cramping has only been this bad in about the last couple of weeks. Also I am 62 years old. I guess the last could be good enough reason Huh???? LOL.. Thanks for any information that I might try. Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Hey, Paula, It will take about 60 to 80 bananas (about 500 mg. potassium) to restore your potassium according to my husband's internist. He said take about 4 to 5 regular potassium tablets to equate to about 500 mg. of potassium. He also told my husband that everytime you have an accident to the body that you deplete your potassium stores and that you need to rebuild them immediately with extra potassium and I am always doing something dumb to my body so I listened for a change and it has helped. In the past I have also suffered from leg cramps so I now take 4 to 5 potassium tablets with my 1500 mg. of calcium with magnesium (and not vitamin d), along with 750 mg. of magnesium at night before bedtime so that I can get a good night's sleep. This works like a charm for me and then about two to three times a week I make up a tea with oatstraw herb. This is an awesome herb that works great on inflammation, calcium problems, fibro, arthritis, and many other things. I was told about oatstraw about 25 years ago after being in a car wreck. These things work for me but I will pass them along to you and Judy. Good luck! Rhavda Emison Scents of Success (http://www.scentsofsuccess.com) Texas Grown-USA Made Rose Oil Products Rose, Helichrysum, Oak Moss, Melissa and Other Products >try eating a banana. Low potassium will cause muscle cramps too. When I have a lot of muscle cramping in megs. eating a banana will help most of the time. >Paula ........in Michigan >Coming soon Farm Fresh Soaps & Candles > > > > I am new to the group and really enjoying reading all the valuable > information.My question is does anybody have any information besides > lack of calcium would cause sever muscle cramping. I have them in my > feet, legs, had some in my rib cage and also in my upper arms. I have > Arthritis, Osteoperosis, fibromyalgia. Was in a sever car wreck 2 1/2 > years ago that shattered my right hip, tore my right knee open to the > bone, broke ribs, and severly sprained both ankles, not to mention > all the bruising. This bad cramping has only been this bad in about > the last couple of weeks. Also I am 62 years old. I guess the last > could be good enough reason Huh???? LOL.. Thanks for any information > that I might try. Judy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 I have MS and was last time I had blood drawn, it showed my potassium was low and the Dr (neurologist) told me to eat 1 or 2 bananas a day. It helps. Paula ........in Michigan Coming soon Farm Fresh Soaps & Candles - sos79 Thursday, January 13, 2005 11:39 AM Re: Muscle Cramps Hey, Paula, It will take about 60 to 80 bananas (about 500 mg. potassium) to restore your potassium according to my husband's internist. He said take about 4 to 5 regular potassium tablets to equate to about 500 mg. of potassium. He also told my husband that everytime you have an accident to the body that you deplete your potassium stores and that you need to rebuild them immediately with extra potassium and I am always doing something dumb to my body so I listened for a change and it has helped. In the past I have also suffered from leg cramps so I now take 4 to 5 potassium tablets with my 1500 mg. of calcium with magnesium (and not vitamin d), along with 750 mg. of magnesium at night before bedtime so that I can get a good night's sleep. This works like a charm for me and then about two to three times a week I make up a tea with oatstraw herb. This is an awesome herb that works great on inflammation, calcium problems, fibro, arthritis, and many other things. I was told about oatstraw about 25 years ago after being in a car wreck. These things work for me but I will pass them along to you and Judy. Good luck! Rhavda Emison Scents of Success (http://www.scentsofsuccess.com) Texas Grown-USA Made Rose Oil Products Rose, Helichrysum, Oak Moss, Melissa and Other Products >try eating a banana. Low potassium will cause muscle cramps too. When I have a lot of muscle cramping in megs. eating a banana will help most of the time. >Paula ........in Michigan >Coming soon Farm Fresh Soaps & Candles > > > > I am new to the group and really enjoying reading all the valuable > information.My question is does anybody have any information besides > lack of calcium would cause sever muscle cramping. I have them in my > feet, legs, had some in my rib cage and also in my upper arms. I have > Arthritis, Osteoperosis, fibromyalgia. Was in a sever car wreck 2 1/2 > years ago that shattered my right hip, tore my right knee open to the > bone, broke ribs, and severly sprained both ankles, not to mention > all the bruising. This bad cramping has only been this bad in about > the last couple of weeks. Also I am 62 years old. I guess the last > could be good enough reason Huh???? LOL.. Thanks for any information > that I might try. Judy > Step By Step Instructions On Making Rose Petal Preserves: http://www.av-at.com/stuff/rosejam.html To adjust your group settings (i.e. go no mail) see the following link: /join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 My hubby from time to time will get a painful charley horse cramp in his calf at night and our doc (holistic MD) told him to take a magnesium citrate supplement and to keep well hydrated. He's been taking his supplement and we've noticed that it really only happens when he doesn't drink enough water. Most of us don't drink enough plain ol' water daily and it leads to numerous health problems that could so easily have been avoided. I too am guilty of not drinking enough water sometimes, but I try to be conscious of it and drink 1/2 gallon to a gallon of daily water - it is especially important to drink extra water if one has any diuretic beverages like coffee or alcoholic beverages. *Smile* Chris (list mom) http://www.alittleolfactory.com Sandra [san6] Judy, Many people think that cramps and spasms are caused by a LACK of calcium, but from what I have learned, Calcium shortens and CONTRACTS the muscles, but magnesium RELAXES them. I have experienced this myself when I took exta calcium for something without increasing magnesium, and I began to have spasms. Paul Bergner says that calcium is in general spasmodic and magnesium being a calcium channel blocker is antispasmodic. Cal to mag ratio in the body should be about 2:1. Straight mag 700-800 mg a day of mag citrate. He also gives a recipe for tight muscles of equal parts of lobelia and cramp bark tinctures added to some almond oil and massage that into the affected area. You could warm this in a double boiler first. I've also read that dehydration/ and or inactivity could also cause cramping. Sandra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 This is really interesting cause when my husband started such bad leg cramps the doctor put him on a double dose of calcium, which didn't help. In fact he cut back to one dose cause it caused other problems. Never thought about magnesium. Penny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 I take lecithin for muscle cramps. It works for me - and my parents (who are 77 and 80). I take at LEAST 1200 mg daily, in split doses (morning and night). I also have dystonia, which is a muscle condition that causes muscles to cramp uncontrollably (and unpredictably). If 1200 mgs aren't quite enough (if I have cramping in the night) I will take 400 - 800 mgs more in the night. It works for me. Hope this helps. Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 14, 2005 Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 I regularly get muscle cramps in my rib cage. Mostly on the left side. These are very painful and once they start they go on for 10 or more minutes at a time. I thought that I must be low on potassium and for a while taking potassium helped. I am now coming to the conclusion that it is the weight gain after having been spayed ( lol) that is causing these cramps. I'll look into the magnesium . At this point I'll try anything. Hugs, Sally - Christine Ziegler<chrisziggy < > Thursday, January 13, 2005 11:51 AM RE: re:Muscle Cramps My hubby from time to time will get a painful charley horse cramp in his calf at night and our doc (holistic MD) told him to take a magnesium citrate supplement and to keep well hydrated. He's been taking his supplement and we've noticed that it really only happens when he doesn't drink enough water. Most of us don't drink enough plain ol' water daily and it leads to numerous health problems that could so easily have been avoided. I too am guilty of not drinking enough water sometimes, but I try to be conscious of it and drink 1/2 gallon to a gallon of daily water - it is especially important to drink extra water if one has any diuretic beverages like coffee or alcoholic beverages. *Smile* Chris (list mom) http://www.alittleolfactory.com<http://www.alittleolfactory.com/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 Judy wrote: I am new to the group and really enjoying reading all the valuable information.My question is does anybody have any information besides lack of calcium would cause sever muscle cramping. I have them in my feet, legs, had some in my rib cage and also in my upper arms. I have Arthritis, Osteoperosis, fibromyalgia. Was in a sever car wreck 2 1/2 years ago that shattered my right hip, tore my right knee open to the bone, broke ribs, and severly sprained both ankles, not to mention all the bruising. This bad cramping has only been this bad in about the last couple of weeks. Also I am 62 years old. I guess the last could be good enough reason Huh???? LOL.. Thanks for any information that I might try. Judy Dear Judy, Being 62 years old is NOT reason enough to be miserable! Earth forbid, I will be 62 on my next birthday and I fully intend to be better than today, not worse. Judy, you mention you are taking calcium. How about magnesium and vitamin E? Both help some people with cramps. The car wreck may also have played long-term havoc with your whole muscular /skeletal system. Are you, or have you had, any body work? Ien in the Kootenays **************************** I can finish my own sentences again! muddled **************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 Hi Judy, Potassium may help. Also drinking about 4 oz of Tonic Water at bedtime sometimes helps. (It's the quinine in the Tonic Water). Stopped my Dad's cramping successfully! Pat -- In , " Ieneke van Houten " <ienvan@t...> wrote: > > Judy wrote: > My question is does anybody have any information besides lack of calcium would cause sever muscle cramping. I have them in my feet, legs, had some in my rib cage and also in my upper arms. I have Arthritis, Osteoperosis, fibromyalgia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 Hey, I forgot about Quinine! You can buy the homeopathic Quinine (Boiron and Highlands) at most vitamin stores for about $6.00. Excellent also for Restless Leg Syndrome. Michelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 low potassium will also cause muscle cramping. I have problems with it because I have MS. Try eating more bananas, they are high in potassium - works for me Paula ........in Michigan Coming soon Farm Fresh Soaps & Candles - Ieneke van Houten Friday, January 14, 2005 11:44 PM Re: Muscle Cramps Judy wrote: I am new to the group and really enjoying reading all the valuable information.My question is does anybody have any information besides lack of calcium would cause sever muscle cramping. I have them in my feet, legs, had some in my rib cage and also in my upper arms. I have Arthritis, Osteoperosis, fibromyalgia. Was in a sever car wreck 2 1/2 years ago that shattered my right hip, tore my right knee open to the bone, broke ribs, and severly sprained both ankles, not to mention all the bruising. This bad cramping has only been this bad in about the last couple of weeks. Also I am 62 years old. I guess the last could be good enough reason Huh???? LOL.. Thanks for any information that I might try. Judy Dear Judy, Being 62 years old is NOT reason enough to be miserable! Earth forbid, I will be 62 on my next birthday and I fully intend to be better than today, not worse. Judy, you mention you are taking calcium. How about magnesium and vitamin E? Both help some people with cramps. The car wreck may also have played long-term havoc with your whole muscular /skeletal system. Are you, or have you had, any body work? Ien in the Kootenays **************************** I can finish my own sentences again! muddled **************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2005 Report Share Posted February 12, 2005 , " loghrydolls " <JudyLoghry1942@a...> wrote: > > > I have > Arthritis, Osteoperosis, fibromyalgia. Was in a sever car wreck 2 1/2 > years ago that shattered my right hip, tore my right knee open to the > bone, broke ribs, and severly sprained both ankles, not to mention > all the bruising. This bad cramping has only been this bad in about > the last couple of weeks. Also I am 62 years old. I guess the last > could be good enough reason Huh???? LOL.. Thanks for any information > that I might try. Judy Judy I am sorry I am late on this reply. But I too have a lot of leg cramping and hand cramping and now my throat closes up on me when I eat at times. I have found out recently it is the advancment of my fibromyalgia. I take the Calcium, the magnesium and believe it or not I sniff Turkish Sage. This is keeping it in check and so it does not happen as often as it use to. Hope any of this is of use to you Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Hi all, I don't know if I had asked before about what to do for muscle cramps but I thought I'd share what I found. I used to be able to get quinine medication for it. I knew quite a few other people who were on that too for muscle cramps. When our Aussie government decided to ban quinine I was at a loss. The doctor said to buy tonic water but that was a much lower dose than I was used to. Then I discovered Magnesium with something called Cramp Bark. This has been a boon and I have had no more cramping at all. And it's good to be able to take my magnesium supplement at the same time. I had upped the dose of magnesium before but the new version is even better. I used to wake up with cramps in my feet and would have to stand up to make them stop hurting. Also just yawning would cause my neck muscles to cramp and twisting my body the wrong way would give cramps in my stomach or sides. What causes this? I don't get it now but it's always been a mystery to me. I have fibromyalgia so I guess it's related. Thanks, Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Hi Jen, You found some good things there! Excellent! On the muscle cramping, I have been off sugar for so long now that I find if I have even the slightest amount, my muscles seize up and go absolutely crazy. I can actually feel things get tense and start to cramp. Stay off the sugar, and no problem. Don't know if this might be contributing to your muscle cramps, but if you have any sugar, you might want to try going off for a while. Best, Kelli Jen [jemma56] Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:31 AMherbal remedies Subject: Herbal Remedies - Muscle Cramps Hi all, I don't know if I had asked before about what to do for muscle cramps but I thought I'd share what I found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Hi Jen, "I used to wake up with cramps in my feet and would have to stand up to make them stop hurting. Also just yawning would cause my neck muscles to cramp and twisting my body the wrong way would give cramps in my stomach or sides. " I have these exact same cramps. I'm allergic to Quinine and can't take it, I use Damiana (Turnera Diffusa) and Wild Yam root (Dioscorea Villosa) to help with them. I found this by accident. I was taking the yam root for the cramps and it helped, but not enough to stop them. I was looking for something to strengthen the kidneys and found Damiana. Well, after taking the Damiana for a few days I woke up one morning with a "WOW" I didn't fall asleep wiggling my feet and I didn't wake up wiggling my feet! I actually slept! Then one night I woke to a vengeful foot and calf muscle cramp that sent me out of bed hobbling around the house to get rid of. I started thinking "What herb was I taking that I am not now taking?" The answer was Damiana. I had run out about a week prior. I purchased some that morning and the cramps were gone. Same thing with the wild yam though not as intense. I don't take them as a compound and rarely in the same day. All I need do now (kind of a maintenance thing) is take both 2-3 times a month and I don't have SEVER cramps. If I take them 2-3 times a week I rarely have any cramps, but it is easy to skip making the yam root tea (I make an infusion with it) the Damiana I use a tincture which is much easier then the tea (I'm lazy I will look into the Cramp Bark, I've heard of it, not used it. You mentioned you have Fibromyalgia. I hadn't heard of that so, I looked it up. I'm not saying I have it, I have the symptoms. Did your doctor figure it out or did you and then tell him? With our Lord's blessings, Doug Jen [jemma56] Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:31 AMherbal remedies Subject: Herbal Remedies - Muscle Cramps Hi all, I don't know if I had asked before about what to do for muscle cramps but I thought I'd share what I found. I used to be able to get quinine medication for it. I knew quite a few other people who were on that too for muscle cramps. When our Aussie government decided to ban quinine I was at a loss. The doctor said to buy tonic water but that was a much lower dose than I was used to. Then I discovered Magnesium with something called Cramp Bark. This has been a boon and I have had no more cramping at all. And it's good to be able to take my magnesium supplement at the same time. I had upped the dose of magnesium before but the new version is even better. I used to wake up with cramps in my feet and would have to stand up to make them stop hurting. Also just yawning would cause my neck muscles to cramp and twisting my body the wrong way would give cramps in my stomach or sides. What causes this? I don't get it now but it's always been a mystery to me. I have fibromyalgia so I guess it's related. Thanks, Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 hi there, are talking about the restless leg syndrome? my wife has this *wobbling* thing mostly before bedtime her legs get funky. she takes pills to stop it, and it works a little she says. i'm wondering if you are talking about the same thing here. thanks, rik > " I used to wake up with cramps in my feet and would have to stand up to make > them stop hurting. Also just yawning would cause my neck muscles to cramp > and twisting my body the wrong way would give cramps in my stomach or sides. > " > > I have these exact same cramps. I'm allergic to Quinine and can't take it, > I use Damiana (Turnera Diffusa) and Wild Yam root (Dioscorea Villosa) to > help with them. I found this by accident. I was taking the yam root for > the cramps and it helped, but not enough to stop them. I was looking for > something to strengthen the kidneys and found Damiana. Well, after taking > the Damiana for a few days I woke up one morning with a " WOW " I didn't fall > asleep wiggling my feet and I didn't wake up wiggling my feet! I actually > slept! Then one night I woke to a vengeful foot and calf muscle cramp that > sent me out of bed hobbling around the house to get rid of. I started > thinking " What herb was I taking that I am not now taking? " The answer was > Damiana. I had run out about a week prior. I purchased some that morning > and the cramps were gone. Same thing with the wild yam though not as > intense. I don't take them as a compound and rarely in the same day. All I > need do now (kind of a maintenance thing) is take both 2-3 times a month and > I don't have SEVER cramps. If I take them 2-3 times a week I rarely have > any cramps, but it is easy to skip making the yam root tea (I make an > infusion with it) the Damiana I use a tincture which is much easier then the > tea (I'm lazy > > I will look into the Cramp Bark, I've heard of it, not used it. > > You mentioned you have Fibromyalgia. I hadn't heard of that so, I looked it > up. I'm not saying I have it, I have the symptoms. Did your doctor figure > it out or did you and then tell him? > > With our Lord's blessings, > > Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Thanks Kelli and Doug for your advice. Kelli you're right about the sugar. I must pay more attention to that. Doug, I haven't heard of Damiana. Could I get that here in Australia? At the moment taking the Magnesium with the Cramp Bark in it, is doing the job. I haven't had any cramps. However it hasn't stopped the normal pain of Fibromyalgia. Yes, a doctor diagnosed me of that years ago after I had a blood transfusion. I think that's when I got it. It is supposedly caused by a mycoplasma and I do believe that it is 'catching'. Since the blood transfusion I have never been the same. It was like having another personality also living in the same body. Maybe I inherited the disease from the blood donor. I know of other people who have had a similar experience. I've never had any help from Doctors with the fibromyalgia apart from strong pain killers which barely 'touch the sides'. Some days I don't have much pain (unless I touch the tender points). Other times it's pretty bad. It stops me from walking or moving and exercising too much. So it slows one down. I have tried all sorts of stuff from Dr Wallachs Cheri Mins to Goji Juice just recently. The diarrhea they both caused was alarming and unbearable. Can't take more pain than I already have. Just juicing fresh vegetables is good I've found. The second doctor confirmed fibromyalgia just a couple of years ago. So there it is. God Bless, Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Hi Jen, Juicing vegetables is very good. Have you looked at doing a body cleanse? I have heard that people have great results with a body cleanse when they have symptoms similar to yours. Best, Kelli | | Jen [jemma56] | Thursday, February 24, 2005 9:30 AM | herbal remedies | Re: Herbal Remedies - Re:Muscle Cramps | | | | Thanks Kelli and Doug for your advice. Kelli you're right | about the sugar. | I must pay more attention to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Hi Rik, Yes, at least according to my doctor. He prescribed Quinine Sulfate which evidently I am allergic too. I tried the Wild Yam first that helped a lot, but did not eliminate them. It wasn't until I added Damiana to the herbs I was taking that they vanished. I prefer Damiana tincture to pills and Wild Yam tea to tincture or pills. It really does depend on the herbs and the person as to which is best. A local health foods store should have all forms of both herbs, if not they are easily found online. With our Lord's blessings, Doug Rik [bliksemskater] Thursday, February 24, 2005 6:57 AM herbal remedies Re: Herbal Remedies - Muscle Cramps hi there, are talking about the restless leg syndrome? my wife has this *wobbling* thing mostly before bedtime her legs get funky. she takes pills to stop it, and it works a little she says. i'm wondering if you are talking about the same thing here. thanks, rik > " I used to wake up with cramps in my feet and would have to stand up to make > them stop hurting. Also just yawning would cause my neck muscles to cramp > and twisting my body the wrong way would give cramps in my stomach or sides. > " > > I have these exact same cramps. I'm allergic to Quinine and can't take it, > I use Damiana (Turnera Diffusa) and Wild Yam root (Dioscorea Villosa) to > help with them. I found this by accident. I was taking the yam root for > the cramps and it helped, but not enough to stop them. I was looking for > something to strengthen the kidneys and found Damiana. Well, after taking > the Damiana for a few days I woke up one morning with a " WOW " I didn't fall > asleep wiggling my feet and I didn't wake up wiggling my feet! I actually > slept! Then one night I woke to a vengeful foot and calf muscle cramp that > sent me out of bed hobbling around the house to get rid of. I started > thinking " What herb was I taking that I am not now taking? " The answer was > Damiana. I had run out about a week prior. I purchased some that morning > and the cramps were gone. Same thing with the wild yam though not as > intense. I don't take them as a compound and rarely in the same day. All I > need do now (kind of a maintenance thing) is take both 2-3 times a month and > I don't have SEVER cramps. If I take them 2-3 times a week I rarely have > any cramps, but it is easy to skip making the yam root tea (I make an > infusion with it) the Damiana I use a tincture which is much easier then the > tea (I'm lazy > > I will look into the Cramp Bark, I've heard of it, not used it. > > You mentioned you have Fibromyalgia. I hadn't heard of that so, I looked it > up. I'm not saying I have it, I have the symptoms. Did your doctor figure > it out or did you and then tell him? > > With our Lord's blessings, > > Doug Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 Hi Jen,I apologize for not replying to you yesterday. I wrote a reply, but it hasn’t shown up and is not in my sent items folder I don’t know where it went or what happened to it. (:I’m in the US so I don’t know about Australian laws. I can get it here I would imagine you can get it there. Damiana is more known as an aphrodisiac. Most books and web sites talk about that property of it and I have only one reference that talks about its benefits to the kidneys. That is in “The Complete Medicinal Herbal” by Penelope Ody, ISBN 1-56458-187-X and that is brief. I had kidney problems a few years ago and Damiana definitely improved kidney function. After reading Michelle Brown’s reply to “restless legs syndrome” it makes sense that the Damiana would help. As for it being an aphrodisiac guys are always horny even crotchety old guys like me so, I really can’t say. This link has some good sources for bulk herbs, tincture, pills and seed. I tend to prefer bulk herbs to make teas or tinctures over pills, but Natures Way has good herb pills and Herb Pharm makes good tinctures.For the other aches and pains I use a 1:1 mix of Devil’s Claw (Harpagophytum Procombens) and St. John’s wort (Hypericum perforatum) for joint pain and inflammations. Aspirin is the synthetic form of the drug found in Willow bark you might want to try a Willow bark tea or tincture. A tincture of Bogbean (Menyanthes trifoliate) is good for muscle pain also. These are the URLs in the hyperlinks above incase your email doesn’t support hyperlinks.http://www.rain-tree.com/damiana.htmhttp://www.swsbm.com/Resources/ResList.htmlhttp://www.naturesway.com/http://www.herb-pharm.com/With our Lord’s blessings take care,DougJen [jemma56]Thursday, February 24, 2005 9:30 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Re:Muscle CrampsThanks Kelli and Doug for your advice. Kelli you're right about the sugar. I must pay more attention to that. Doug, I haven't heard of Damiana. Could I get that here in Australia? At the moment taking the Magnesium with the Cramp Bark in it, is doing the job. I haven't had any cramps. However it hasn't stopped the normal pain of Fibromyalgia. Yes, a doctor diagnosed me of that years ago after I had a blood transfusion. I think that's when I got it. It is supposedly caused by a mycoplasma and I do believe that it is 'catching'. Since the blood transfusion I have never been the same. It was like having another personality also living in the same body. Maybe I inherited the disease from the blood donor. I know of other people who have had a similar experience. I've never had any help from Doctors with the fibromyalgiaapart from strong pain killers which barely 'touch the sides'. Some days Idon't have much pain (unless I touch the tender points). Other times it's pretty bad. It stops me from walking or moving and exercising too much. So it slows one down. I have tried all sorts of stuff from Dr Wallachs Cheri Mins to Goji Juice just recently. The diarrhea they both caused was alarming and unbearable. Can't take more pain than I already have. Just juicing fresh vegetables is good I've found. The second doctor confirmed fibromyalgia just a couple of years ago. So there it is. God Bless, Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 , " loghrydolls " <JudyLoghry1942@a...> wrote: > > > I am new to the group and really enjoying reading all the valuable > information.My question is does anybody have any information besides > lack of calcium would cause sever muscle cramping. Hi Judy: I am sorry I am answering this way too late and I am sure everyone has told you all the answers already, but, I would like to address it anyway. I have fibro and get the leg cramps. I have found I do all the usual things when they get bad...take calcium, mag, potas....etc. Then I started to work with eos and found an oil that is helping me with my fibro. Now mind you it may not work for others but for me right now I am just sniffing Butch's Turkish Sage. When I remember to sniff it everynight the cramps have not come back and the pain in my arm (my fibro came from the shoulder and is traveling now) has subsided and is actually decreasing. I just find it amazing. But anyways when I was not into eos I did all the things that they tell you to do and it keeps it undercontrol too. This is just food for thought. Never enough food around when you want it. Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 , " Michelle " <michelle@h...> wrote: > > Hey, I forgot about Quinine! You can buy the homeopathic Quinine > (Boiron and Highlands) at most vitamin stores for about $6.00. > > Excellent also for Restless Leg Syndrome. > > Michelle Now I did not know about that one. I learned something today. But gee if you are not English it sure is hard to swallow....lol Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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