Diabetes Supplements

[Guest guest]

Hi, I have just recently found out that I am diabetic. The doc put me

on Metformin and wanted me to take Avandia which I refused. My blood

sugar is around the 160's without the Metformin and under 120 with it,

twice a day, 500mg each. I would like to get off of it but dont know

what today. I started taking cinnamon bark and a diabetic vitamin.

Neither seem to be doing anything. I have taken them for about 2

months. I do alot better if I follow a very low carb diet but I really

miss things like potatoes and pasta. If I eat pasta now, I try to use

whole wheat or spelt. What kind of supplements do you take, if you

dont mind sharing? I dont know that much about alternative medicine

but am willing to learn.

 

Hi,

 

The enemy of diabetes is added muscles. I realized when I got

diabetes that my lifestyle was probably the cause. I quite being a

couch potato. I began a 12-year practice of Tae Kwon Do. Like you I

cut out white flour and potatoes. I began enjoying eating whole

wheat breads and pasta. I also took Alpha Lipoic Acid and chromium

which aid building muscle. COQ10 also helps lower blood sugar.

 

I moved two years ago from Washington, DC, to West Virginia.

Although I still work an 8 hour day, I no longer commute two hours a

day. I square dance 1-3 times a week for an hour and a half to 3

hours. I also do Tai Chi (1 1/2 hours a week, aids balance and

builds muscle). This regimen resulted in my getting off Metformin

(side effects are hard to live with) and onto Avandia and glimipride

(now down to 1/2 pill. I have lowered my doses several times in the

last year. There is a connection with Avandia and heart problems but

I think my activity and the COQ10 combat that.

 

I began doing curls with dumbells in Tai Chi but kept it up. I can

now do 35 curls with an 8 pound weight. I do more than just curls.

 

Good Luck,

Jeff

[Guest guest]

I have a high blood sugar, diabetes thing going (like you mine is 160

to 166 without my supplements, with the supplements it is about

125). I take Gymnema, Promlin and Fenugreek extract. I also take

15,000 mcg

of Biotin daily. I read aboiut the Biotin in one of my alternative

health books and tried it works well. I use a lozenge form of Biotin

that comes in 5mg lozenges, I take 3 lozrnges once a day.

I also take Colostrum and SOD (Superoxide Dismutase ) every morning

on an empty stomach. I also like to take rice solubles, they help

with cholesterol and heart problems that develop with diabetes.

flaxseed oil is also very helpful.

 

My diet is complicated by not being able to eat animal protein, I

find that eating fiber with carbohydrates helps (beans, fiberous

vegetables like broccolli etc..) I also try to stick to sprouted

wheat breads (read the ingredients carefully on these, not all of the

ones that say sprouted wheat are made with it being the first

ingredient). They also have sprouted wheat pasta. I also found some

pastas that have bean flours in them as well as flaxseed, I use those

a lot. For fats, I eat a lot of nuts (I buy them raw and roast them

in the oven myself for a few minutes), I use exta virgin olive oil

and some butter. I do eat some cereals with unsweetened almond milk,

I make sure the cerals are high in fiber and low in sugar.

 

Nagla

 

 

, " jpgjeff2 "

<jpgjeff2 wrote:

>

> Hi, I have just recently found out that I am diabetic. The doc put

me

> on Metformin and wanted me to take Avandia which I refused. My blood

> sugar is around the 160's without the Metformin and under 120 with

it,

> twice a day, 500mg each. I would like to get off of it but dont

[Guest guest]

What does the cinnamon bark do? Where or what is the name of the vitamin for

diabetics you are taking

-

jpgjeff2

Sunday, September 23, 2007 5:01 PM

Diabetes Supplements

 

 

Hi, I have just recently found out that I am diabetic. The doc put me

on Metformin and wanted me to take Avandia which I refused. My blood

sugar is around the 160's without the Metformin and under 120 with

[Guest guest]

Do some research on diet exersise and weight reduction in this

regard. Tweo new studys recently came out on advandia an heres an

article about them.

 

Avandia should be pulled, say authors of studies|

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-09-11-avandia-

diabetes_N.htm?csp=34

 

By Rita Rubin, USA TODAY

 

Two studies and an editorial today should lead the Food and Drug

Administration to pull the diabetes pill Avandia off the market, the

authors say.

" Taken together, it's going to put a lot of pressure on the FDA to

act, " says Steven Nissen, the cardiovascular medicine chief at the

Cleveland Clinic and co-author of one study, which appears in The

Journal of the American Medical Association.

 

Nissen raised concerns about Avandia's heart attack risk in May with

a study in The NewEngland Journal of Medicine. It pooled results of

42 short-term clinical trials and found that Avandia patients were

43% more likely to have a heart attack or be hospitalized for

blocked coronary arteries than other patients.

 

In the latest study, which pooled the results of 19 trials, Nissen

and his co-authors found that Actos, the only other marketed drug in

the same class as Avandia, reduced the rate of death, heart attacks

or stroke by 18%. Nissen says this is the first time a diabetes pill

has been shown to reduce the risk of heart attacks, which represent

75% of all diabetes deaths.

 

Actos maker Takeda provided the trial data and paid $25,000 toward

the cost of the analysis. Nissen says he had asked both Takeda and

Avandia maker GlaxoSmithKline for clinical trial data about their

diabetes pills. Only Takeda obliged, Nissen says, and that was under

the condition that it would not see the study before publication.

 

In the other JAMA study, researchers pooled results from four long-

term Avandia trials and concluded that the drug raised heart attack

risk 42%. Neither drug in the new studies affected the risk of dying

from heart disease, a conclusion that Wake Forest University's Sonal

Singh, the lead author on the Avandia analysis, speculated was

because the trials were too short.

 

In a statement Monday, Glaxo argued that these studies, which are

meta-analyses, are inherently flawed. Avandia and Actos have never

been compared head-to-head, but clinical trials and analyses of

large data sets of diabetes patients show no difference in heart

attack risk between the two, Glaxo said.

 

The FDA convened a meeting of outside experts July 30 for advice on

the matter. The panelists voted 20-3 that Avandia increases heart

risks, but they also voted 22-1 that, overall, it has a favorable

risk/benefit profile and should remain on the market.

 

If a drug garnered such a lopsided vote about its safety before it

came on the market, the FDA would probably not approve it, Harvard

Medical School doctors Daniel Solomon and Wolfgang Winkelmayer write

in an accompanying editorial in JAMA.

 

" Although removal of a medication creates tremendous patient

inconvenience, " they write, " the public expects that FDA approval is

a seal of safety. "

 

In a statement, the FDA's Susan Cruzan said, " FDA will continue to

monitor the safety profile of these drugs and we will provide

updates on this issue as they become available. "

 

 

, " jpgjeff2 "

<jpgjeff2 wrote:

>

> Hi, I have just recently found out that I am diabetic. The doc put

me

> on Metformin and wanted me to take Avandia which I refused. My

blood

> sugar is around the 160's without the Metformin and under 120 with

it,

> twice a day, 500mg each. I would like to get off of it but dont

know

> what today. I started taking cinnamon bark and a diabetic vitamin.

> Neither seem to be doing anything. I have taken them for about 2

> months. I do alot better if I follow a very low carb diet but I

really

> miss things like potatoes and pasta. If I eat pasta now, I try to

use

> whole wheat or spelt. What kind of supplements do you take, if you

> dont mind sharing? I dont know that much about alternative medicine

> but am willing to learn.

>

> Hi,

>

> The enemy of diabetes is added muscles. I realized when I got

> diabetes that my lifestyle was probably the cause. I quite being

a

> couch potato. I began a 12-year practice of Tae Kwon Do. Like

you I

> cut out white flour and potatoes. I began enjoying eating whole

> wheat breads and pasta. I also took Alpha Lipoic Acid and

chromium

> which aid building muscle. COQ10 also helps lower blood sugar.

>

[Guest guest]

I am not sure about Cinnamon bark, but I do take some ground cinnamon

(anout a teaspoon daily) it helps fight diabetic neuropathy. It works

very well for that. I imagine cinnamon bark is for the same reason.

Nagla

 

, " Colleen "

<alaskaicekubes wrote:

>

> What does the cinnamon bark do? Where or what is the name of the

vitamin for diabetics you are taking

> -

> jpgjeff2

>

> Sunday, September 23, 2007 5:01 PM

> Diabetes Supplements

>

>

> Hi, I have just recently found out that I am diabetic. The doc put

me

> on Metformin and wanted me to take Avandia which I refused. My blood

> sugar is around the 160's without the Metformin and under 120 with

>

[Guest guest]

Good Morning all....

 

I just joined and this post caught my attention - I am Seneca and as

you all may be aware that our collective racial makeup as indigenous

people give rise to an epidemic among us with this malady....

 

In the relationship between the pseudo-food now on our tables and our

inactivity - the instance of this imbalance grows with each day....

 

My aunties and councilors try to take a holistic approach to combating

and preventing.... it is possible with overall lifestyle changes that

the effects and the disease itself can be reversed....

 

First one must eliminate all high fructose corn syrup from the diet -

NOT an easy task to say the least .... as it is in almost all our

processed foods.... in fact - don't even use any even in the " allowed "

sugars for any day....

 

as far as herbal and plant remedies - blueberry leaves - either in

tincture or as a tea are excellent for normalizing blood sugar....

 

as i am a new member here i will offer a few references from several

sources:

 

http://www.annieappleseedproject.org/bluebleavexm.html

http://www.femhealth.com/BlueberryLeafTea.html

http://chinese-school.netfirms.com/Chinese-medicine-diabetes-herbs.html

http://metabolicsyndrome.about.com/od/naturaltreatments/p/BlueberryLeaves.htm

 

most of these are commercial and are selling - but they also offer

more links and references....

 

hope this helps anyone here who is fighting this.....

 

be well

bj

 

 

, " asccnagla "

<nagla_alvin wrote:

>

> I am not sure about Cinnamon bark, but I do take some ground cinnamon

> (anout a teaspoon daily) it helps fight diabetic neuropathy. It

[Guest guest]

I have read that Cassia cinnamon (used in the Far East) is best, but

it is hard to obtain in the US. I have read that Cassia is said to

be bitter, so Americans don't like it.

 

I have been using ground Cinnamon along with MSM, and Boswellia

tablets daily, and much of my diabetic neuropathy has lessened

significantly over 3 or 4 years. Before I started taking them, I

could not pick up a quarter from the floor unless I was looking at my

hand. It felt like I was wearing thin cotton gloves all the time. I

could not tell if I was standing on smooth wood floors, whether I was

wearing socks or was barefoot, and I could never feel if I stepped on

a coin. Now I can pick up a dime without looking at it, I can feel

texture differences when I step from one carpet to another carpet with

a slightly different pile, and I can detect if I stand on a dime on my

floor.

 

Alobar

 

On 9/25/07, asccnagla <nagla_alvin wrote:

> I am not sure about Cinnamon bark, but I do take some ground cinnamon

> (anout a teaspoon daily) it helps fight diabetic neuropathy. It works

> very well for that. I imagine cinnamon bark is for the same reason.

> Nagla

>

[Guest guest]

You hit on the key word. Bitter. Bitter is best for diabetes.

Bitter melon is the best food.

 

GB

 

, Alobar

<Alobar wrote:

>

> I have read that Cassia cinnamon (used in the Far East) is best, but

> it is hard to obtain in the US. I have read that Cassia is said

[Guest guest]

Yes i agree. Bitter melon is so far the most effective for diabetes, i take it

as tea or iced tea mostly but sometimes use capsules for convenience...

[Guest guest]

You can also eat the whole melon itself. Glad you find it effective.

 

GB

 

, Dante Abelarde

<dante_abelarde wrote:

>

> Yes i agree. Bitter melon is so far the most effective for

diabetes, i take it as tea or iced tea mostly but sometimes use

capsules for convenience...

>

[Guest guest]

Where do you find bitter melons? Can they be grown in a home garden in the

north?If so where can you get seeds?

[Guest guest]

No one seems to have heard of them here in Australia and the dried powder

capsules my husband has been taking has not yet affected his blood sugar

levels - I am told that the fresh is the best. If anyone knows where to get

them in Oz I would love to know

 

Jane

 

" joe dennis " <turtle3fish

 

 

 

 

> Where do you find bitter melons? Can they be grown in a home garden in

> the north?If so where can you get seeds?

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know about the plant itself, but I can get bitter melons capsules in my

local health food store.

 

Jack

 

 

joe dennis <turtle3fish wrote:

Where do you find bitter melons? Can they be grown in a home garden in

the north?If so where can you get seeds?

[Guest guest]

Stores have bitter melons occasionally. I would go to

www.gardenweb.com for growing info. The most important thing is

consistency of diet and herbs/supplements.

 

GB

 

, joe dennis

<turtle3fish wrote:

>

> Where do you find bitter melons? Can they be grown in a home

garden in the north?If so where can you get seeds?

>

[Guest guest]

Bitter melons are usually available at most Asian Markets. If you can grow

cucumbers

you should be able to grow bitter melon. It is rather late in the year but

they are still

available in most Asian and health food stores here in Texas. You can purchase

the

seeds at Kitazawa seed company but if you are near any Asian stores then many

of

them have the seeds during the spring planting times,

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Very interesting to learn that the nerve damage from diabetes can be

repaired.

 

Have you also tried vitamin C such as championed by such sites as

www.doctoryourself.com ? Very safe and effective, used since the 1950s

for diabetics to be drug free.

 

Also have you tried lithium orotate? Not to be confused with lithium

carbonate. Lithium orotate can help directly with diabetes, as described

below:

 

http://www.delano.com/ReferenceArticles/Orotates-Transport-Sharpe.html

 

Also, lithium can also help with the creation of new cells (particularly

brain cells), and I wonder if it would help with nerve cells in this

same way.

 

anyway, thanks for your post and good luck.

 

cheers,

Russ.

 

 

Alobar wrote something about:

> I have read that Cassia cinnamon (used in the Far East) is best, but

> it is hard to obtain in the US. I have read that Cassia is said to

> be bitter, so Americans don't like it.

[Guest guest]

You get them in Indian & chinese grocery stores. Try

there.

 

Archna

--- Jane MacRoss <highfield1 wrote:

 

> No one seems to have heard of them here in Australia

> and the dried powder

> capsules my husband has been taking has not yet

[Guest guest]

I use a ready-made bitter melon tea in tea bags. There are a lot of capsules

available on the net but i prefer the tea after meals. you can find it at

www.charanteausa.com

 

 

Guru K <greatyoga wrote:

Stores have bitter melons occasionally. I would go to

www.gardenweb.com for growing info. The most important thing is

consistency of diet and herbs/supplements.