My two cents and thanks Misty

[Guest guest]

Thank you Misty for such a thorough and well

done presentation on the effects of micro-waving.

 

I am one of those people who say 'show me the proof'

 

Because I really get tired of people giving me their

emperor's clothing opinion .... telling me what they

think or belief as if it were truth, fact, or written in concrete for

all

time. I get tired of finding some " proof " is based on a

few poorly conceived or decidedly agenda laden studies that

obscured rather than revealed truth.

 

Even in high school I recognized the difference between

theory advanced as fact and facts per se. Even then I

recognized that the powers that be don't like to have

their cradle rocked with the presentation of new

data, new discoveries, new facts if it inconvenienced

them or threatened their very comfortable envelope

of money, power, status or sacred cows. (What, me wash my

hands between surgical operations -- outrageous!)

 

I recognized that sometimes all the

data wasn't in/all the facts had not been discovered.... or

the most sophisticated or sensitive technology was

yet to be developed, or used even if we had it;

the right questions had not been asked, and/or all

the relevant tests had not been done. Thus the

conclusion was suspect or only tentative.

 

And, even given " proof " , I like specifics and references

and source material. I want to know if the investigators or scientists

have

any conflicts of interest that will skew their approach to

data discovery, research and testing protocols. Or which will

skew their interpretation of that research. Or some agenda

they or product they want me to buy. (Harmonization is good

for you and the economy; Flouride is good for you, " I am the Decider " ,

and " You can't

handle the Truth " )

 

And always, the injunction

to " Follow the Money " makes sense to me. Who hired

or gave finances to the scientists or institutions, what

was their agenda, and did they withdraw funds or

threaten to if honest and sound research revealed

information they did not like.

 

Long after I was well trained by teachers and textbooks

in the halls of academia, I discovered a lot of what they

said was just not true. Twenty plus years of schooling;

a lifetime of un-learning what they proffered.

 

To the victor go the spoils of

war and the right (power) to tell HIS STORY. His

version, embellishing or deleting fact as suited him.

(You mean it was really Tesla who did that --who is

Tesla anyway, they never taught me about him in

science class. Bechamp -- they never mentioned

him either. Roosevelt knew? )

 

To the deepest pocket interests or

to the tyrants with the biggest

guns goes the ability to decide what the people can

know and will be led/conditioned to believe.

 

Denial is not a river in Egypt. In these days,

denial of accountability, denial of truth is the way of modern

corporations and government (its CYA, conveniently called

" propriety information " or " classified for national security reasons " ).

 

Neither does out-shouting me or putting

a gun to my head make truth not be true.

 

I find it deplorable that vested interests and have been able

to obscure truth or spin it to their agenda. Orwell lives.

 

 

Equally deplorable:

 

Industry set-up so-called neutral agencies

as front groups to " scientifically prove " what ever they want people

to believe.

 

Congress people who advocate zero tolerance policies for

school kids but won't come to work and vote on the laws;

and who think they are above the laws they pass for the rest of

us smucks ........ that they vote on bills they never read

.... that they think nothing of changing and re-writing the congressional

record after the fact....

that there are more lobiests in congress than legislators....

 

That reporters and journalists are fired or have their stories

canned if their investigations reveal information that

might offend or challenge an advertiser (as if they own the airwaves

and have no responsibility to the people)

........ that media reads press releases from government and industry

as

if its investigative reporting, real news, and real science.

They have too often been reduced to shills and fear mongers

and entertainment personalities talking about the latest sitcom on their

network.

 

That dissenting

voices have been court-order gagged, slandered, villified,

demonized, inundated with red tape or FDA raids, or IRS investigations,

or financially broken defending themselves

against numerous spurious lawsuits, have lost jobs, have had their life

and families'

life threatened, have been killed or mysteriously dissappeared

just because they:

*advocated or suggested unpopular positions or ideas

*published or spoke the truth

* showed that prior studies were flawed or compromised

*questioned the integrity, truth, logic or science of any thing

currently accepted as conventional wisdom or truth

*been whistle blowers

*had information TPTB didn't want the public to know

(Why recently did so very man top notched micro-bioligists end up

dead in in very short order........what secrets died with them?)

*etc., etc., etc.

 

I also find deplorable that people are no longer

saying " I do not believe what you say, but defend to

the death your right to say it. " Instead its " if you

aren't with me, you are against me -- you are my enemy and

an enemy of the American Way, and unpatriotic,

a hate monger, or a right-winger or leftist conspiracy-believing nut

job. "

Consider the facts? seek the truth? No -- mount an intensive

ad hominem attack.

 

Now, that said, I am one of those people who are

always chasing the off the wall idea idea. Looking for explanations

for the so called anomalies that science cannot explain or

will not even address. Asking the " what if " and why questions.

 

 

EG:

What if

man could fly?...the Wright Brothers What if we put this under

a dark field microscope and saw the living blood and everything moving

thing in it, rather than under an electron microscope where we drew

conclusion

from static dead material and material fragments. Why does the gov. say

there is no such thing as alien life and UFO's but have a law preventing

civilian contact with them. What if those people we burned up weren't

really witches?

 

How many of those shooters were on prescription mind-altering drugs.

Why is info

about Kennedy's assassination still classified. What if people really

can remote view

or use mind over matter and turn water into wine. What if this kool

aid isn't

good for me ?--- take your pick, either the effect of the red dye or

worse as in

the Jim Jones incident.

 

 

Misty, you said:

" Well, this makes sense in a land that encourages farmers to poison

crops and soils with massive amounts of synthesised chemicals, and

encourages food processors to use additives that enhance shelf-life of

foods regardless of the potential for degrading the health of the

consumer. How many hundreds of pounds of microwaved food per capita is

consumed in America each year? Are we going to continue to take it

from established authority, without question, on the premise that they

know best? "

 

I so absolutely agree. We must follow the truth where ever it leads us

even if it means we must modify or revamp your current belief system --

or in this case, stop using microwaves if we value health.

 

We must be critical, analytical; yet keep an open, discerning, and

questionng mind . We must demand transparency and integrity

before we accept anyone as " Authority " .

If we just automatically abdicate responsibility

and power to " Authority " we are setting ourselves up to be

victims and sheeple and inviting Big Brother to rule over us

like a slave driver.

 

Incidentally, with regard to the effects of microwaving, have

you seen the latest Emoto photos. In his latest book he has

photos showing the effect of crystalized water after

being microwaved, after being exposed to the EMF feild of

computers and TV's, etc. Its not " proof " or even relevant according to

conventional thinking but definitely disturbing if you understand

subtle energy or sacred geometry. It certainly suggests we

need more investigation of a lot of things TPTB (the powers that

be) say are safe for human health and well being.

 

For those not familiar with his work, go here:

http://www.wellnessgoods.com/messages.asp

 

I appreciate the tone and level you as owner/moderator keep

this forum on. Long live the internet, groups like this, and

people are willing to ask insightful questions, seek truth, think

for themselves, and allow others the same even if it means

agreeing to disagree.

 

g