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surpriseshan2 wrote:

> I disagree with you, Marti.

> You also say " Be careful of your facts, first, before posting

comments

 

 

Hi there All,

 

This is an interesting topic which seems to involve everyone to some

degree. Personally, I eat a lot of Cottage Cheese, have recently

swapped cows milk for coconut milk, and have some reservations about

our need of dairy products.

 

I found this article (excerpt below) to be very interesting. In full

it addresses many things commented on so far. I will just give a

sample of it >>>

 

Milk Letter: A Message to My Patients

By Robert M. Kradjian, MD

Breast Surgery Chief / Division of General Surgery,

Seton Medical Centre #302 - 1800 Sullivan Ave.

Daly City, CA 94015 USA

 

The entire matter of food and especially that of milk is surrounded

with emotional and cultural importance. Milk was our very first food.

If we were fortunate it was our mother's milk. A loving link, given

and taken. It was the only path to survival.

 

You may be surprised to learn that most of the human beings that

live on planet Earth today do not drink or use cow's milk. Further,

most of them can't drink milk because it makes them ill.

 

There are students of human nutrition who are not supportive of

milk use for adults. Here is a quotation from the March/April 1991

Utne Reader:

“If you really want to play it safe, you may decide to join

the growing number of Americans who are eliminating dairy products

from their diets altogether. Although this sounds radical to those of

us weaned on milk and the five basic food groups, it is eminently

viable. Indeed, of all the mammals, only humans -- and then only a

minority, principally Caucasians -- continue to drink milk beyond

babyhood.â€

 

I think that an answer can also be found in a consideration of

what occurs in Nature †" what happens with free-living mammals and what

happens with human groups living in close to a natural state as

hunter-gatherers.

 

Milk is a maternal lactating secretion, a short-term nutrient for

new-borns. Nothing more, nothing less. Invariably, the mother of any

mammal will provide her milk for a short period of time immediately

after birth. When the time comes for ‘weaning’, the young offspring is

introduced to the proper food for that species of mammal. A familiar

example is that of a puppy. The mother nurses the pup for just a few

weeks and then rejects the young animal and teaches it to eat solid

food. Nursing is provided by nature only for the very youngest of

mammals. Of course, it is not possible for animals living in a natural

state to continue with the drinking of milk after weaning.

 

Consider for a moment, if it was possible, to drink the milk of a

mammal other than a cow, let’s say a rat. Or perhaps the milk of a dog

would be more to your liking. Possibly some horse milk or cat milk. Do

you get the idea? Well, I’m not serious about this, except to suggest

that human milk is for human infants, dogs’ milk is for pups, cows’

milk is for calves, cats’ milk is for kittens, and so forth. Clearly,

this is the way Nature intends it. Just use your own good judgement on

this one.

 

Humans specialization is for advanced neurological development and

delicate neuromuscular control. We do not have much need of massive

skeletal growth or huge muscle groups as does a calf. Think of the

difference between the demands made on the human hand and the demands

of a cow's hoof. Human new-borns specifically need critical material

for their brains, spinal cord and nerves.

 

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The Article itself has more to say, too much for this post.

If you are interested, just Google the reference at the begining.

 

 

MMMMMOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

 

Ric

[Guest guest]

Interesting article. Personally I haven't drank milk since childhood,

not for any particular reason that I can remember, I do use cheeses

and other dairy products sometimes. I would question some the

statistics listed in the letter regarding cancer links and milk

consumption, simply because so many of the studies I've read don't

qualify other factors in people's diets or environments that could be

contributing factors also.

 

I do believe there is a relationship to milk consumption and Type 1

diabetes. I would tend to believe this applies to processed milk

versus raw milk, simply because that's what the majority drink. My

daughter is a Type 1 diabetic, although she doesn't fall into the

usual categories, she was exclusively nursed for the first 2 years of

her life, no cow's milk consumption during the first year, no family

history ever of Type 1, etc. We do have a family history of

autoimmune diseases and also lost her older sister to aplastic anemia

at the age of 5. We were advised when consulting a nutritionist to

treat her diabetes to put her on a casein free diet. We had already

started her on a gluten free diet which had improved her blood sugars,

(she had a history of erratic blood sugars which could not be

correlated to any contributing factors.) When we put her on a casein

free diet, her blood sugars not only improved, they immediately fell

into a normal range. In fact we actually had to adjust her basal rate

of insulin on her pump because she developed hypoglycemia. We also

were able to adjust her insulin to carb ratio to a higher number,

instead of having to use 1 unit of insulin for every 10 carbs, she

went to 1 for every 15 carbs and is now closer to 1 to 20. Her total

insulin requirement dropped significantly also. Most of the endos

don't really give a hoot how much insulin these kids use, they just

let them eat whatever kind of SAD that all the other kids eat. I had

read enough to know that the less insulin she uses, the healthier

she'll be, so I was very pleased to have these kind of results. She

has Hashi's also and suspected to have Celiac, although we have

refused invasive testing for this, dietary restrictions and empirical

proof are enough for me. Her Hashi's sypmtoms and thryoid problems

have disappeared. I am thoroughly convinced that nutrition is the key.

 

Linn

 

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> Milk Letter: A Message to My Patients

> By Robert M. Kradjian, MD

> Breast Surgery Chief / Division of General Surgery,

> Seton Medical Centre #302 - 1800 Sullivan Ave.

> Daly City, CA 94015 USA