Acid reflux, GERD, almost always an infection

[Guest guest]

I think this article below is highly misleading.

 

Just because a bacterium is there it doesn't mean that stomach ulcers

(or whatever illness we have) are caused by the little buggers. The

article in Health and Fitness (it seems a distinctly mainstream

publication) talks about heliobacter pylori and the need to eradicate

it with antibiotics. It also says " At least 24 different bacteria

have been shown to cause stomach ulcers. " which is an insane

statement just by and in itself...

 

For a refreshing look from a different angle, see this recent article

published in WIRED magazine:

 

Hacking Your Body's Bacteria for Better Health

 

http://www.wired.com/medtech/health/news/2007/04/bacteriahacking

 

(taken from NewsGrabs on my site - Health Supreme)

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/

 

Kind regards

Sepp

 

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[Guest guest]

Sepp

I read that url and think it far more likely that pollution,and

synthetic chemicals in our food & water,etc as well as almost

everyone ingesting drugs [synthetic chemicals again] at the drop of a

hat. This has got our metabolism and biochemistry off kilter so we

are vulneralbe to a mutlitude of opportunitic 'bugs'. Plus - how does

your car run if you 'feed'it sand, for example. Even the parts not

directly effected will not work correctly and the whole thing will

eventually just break down. And what is happening with human bodies?

Have you read these theories however?

 

Therefore viruses, germs, bacteria, candida, and even cancer, are not

the cause of, but the result of, disease, arising from tissues rather

than from a germ of constant form. This is also called the " cellular

disease theory " -

See the Germ Theory

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu5_3_1.php

 

and Antibody Theory

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu5_3_2.php ; files.

 

blessings

Shan

 

 

, Sepp Hasslberger

<sepp wrote:

>

> I think this article below is highly misleading.

>

> Just because a bacterium is there it doesn't mean that stomach

ulcers

> (or whatever illness we have) are caused by the little buggers.

The

> article in Health and Fitness (it seems a distinctly mainstream

> publication) talks about heliobacter pylori and the need to

eradicate

> it with antibiotics. It also says " At least 24 different bacteria

> have been shown to cause stomach ulcers. " which is an insane

> statement just by and in itself...

>

> For a refreshing look from a different angle, see this recent

article

> published in WIRED magazine:

>

> Hacking Your Body's Bacteria for Better Health

>

> http://www.wired.com/medtech/health/news/2007/04/bacteriahacking

>

> (taken from NewsGrabs on my site - Health Supreme)

> http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/

>

> Kind regards

> Sepp

>

> - - -

>

[Guest guest]

Shan,

 

 

I thought that the the article in Wired illustrated an important

point, which is that we (or bodies) evolved with microbes for eons.

We have developed important synergies with microbes, which are

largely misunderstood. Indeed the two links you cite are all about

how we don't understand our relation with microbes correctly. In

Wired, Pizzorno says that when he wants to heal a patient, he gives

probiotics - friendly microbes.

 

We insist to vaccinate and to kill microbes with antibiotics, but

really we understand too little about how natural immunity works, or

how damaging the poisons (and the foreign proteins in vaccines) can

be for our organism.

 

Yes, pollution and synthetic chemicals also play a role. They ruin

the 'terrain' and invite microbes to do their job, which in most

cases is a clean-up action, after we have let the body get contaminated.

 

My point is - and I agree with you on that - that microbes are NOT

the cause of disease but at the most accompany an illness.

 

Our trouble is that we have an industry taking care of our health

that wants to make profits and that looks for a microbe to kill in

every illness. We see that in AIDS, where HIV is said to be the

cause, but it hasn't even been ever properly isolated. We see the

same thing in hepatitis, where the virus is very elusive, and there

was a multi-billion dollar program to find the virus that causes

cancer. Pharma wants to sell - vaccines and drugs. They need an enemy

to fight (the microbe) so they can supply the solution. How many

millions of doses of useless Tamiflu have been sold to governments to

be prepared for the bird flu so-called pandemic? How many millions of

doses of useless vaccines are bought and pushed by governments at the

behest of pharma and the World Health Organization?

 

But in the end, no one but ourselves is to blame. We are the ones who

accept or do not accept the treatments offerered by pharma. Since we

can decide, it is up to us - everyone of us - to say NO. And then

things will change.

 

And perhaps with good nutrition we'll be more resistant, even to all

the pollution industry can throw at us.

 

Not to say that we should't be reducing the pollution as well. But

first, let's get healthy and at least not kill ourselves with

pharma's drugs and vaccines.

 

The original post in this series was about GERD (acid reflux). The

irony in the Wired article

 

> http://www.wired.com/medtech/health/news/2007/04/bacteriahacking

 

is in the following two paragraphs:

 

> " Blaser's specialty is Helicobacter pylori, a strain once common in

> every human stomach but now rare in the West. Its disappearance may

> have benefits: H. pylori-related inflammation is associated with

> peptic ulcers and some stomach cancers. However, H. pylori also

> reduces acid reflux, which in turn is associated with asthma and

> esophageal cancers.

>

> H. pylori's decline, says Blaser, correlates with a rapid rise in

> those afflictions. H. pylori deficiency may also contribute to

> obesity, he says, because the bacteria help regulate production of

> two hormones, ghrelin and leptin, that affect metabolism and

> appetite. "

 

The writer at least recognizes that heliobacter pylori also has

important benefits (among them reducing acid reflux), and that maybe

we shouldn't be trying to kill it off.

 

In my mind, the fact that you find h.pylori in someone who has an

ulcer does NOT necessarily mean that it is the cause of the ulcer. It

might as well be an innocent bystander, or more importantly it may be

there to try and clean up after the mess...

 

Kind regards

Sepp

 

 

I read that url and think it far more likely that pollution,and

synthetic chemicals in our food & water,etc as well as almost

everyone ingesting drugs [synthetic chemicals again] at the drop of a

hat. This has got our metabolism and biochemistry off kilter so we

are vulneralbe to a mutlitude of opportunitic 'bugs'. Plus - how does