Guest guest Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 Hi, I've been trying to illuminate all the chlorine etc from the water in our house. Mostly for bath and showers, we never drink tap water. I'm looking at a couple of different brands, one is Pelican PC1000 and another is Aquasana EQ-300. I don't care about the price, our health is more important to me, so quality is much, much, much more important than anything. Did anyone have those installed, or had any experience with any? Or any other brands that are good???? I belive we are not suppose to talk specifics, so if you choose to contact me privately please email eearthman at gmail dot com. But I would REALLY appreciate any advice!!!! Thanks, Elena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 Definitely a positive step. You need to educate yourself about filters first though. Their problems, their dangers and their shortcomings as well as the good stuff. I dont think carbon should be used without silver. Otherwise the carbon can turn into a huge bacteria culture. Also carbon doesnt remove fluoride. Any filter setup needs an indicator of filter function. WIth reverse osmosis that is simple - just measure water conductivity. You know when the filter needs help instantly. Perhaps the whole house filter for baths and then an RO for drinking, cooking and ice cubes. Kirk Elena <eearthman wrote: Hi, I've been trying to illuminate all the chlorine etc from the water in our house. Mostly for bath and showers, we never drink tap water. I'm looking at a couple of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 Hi elina, i m deeply hurt to know ur water problem, one of the way to overcome this is using a R.O water purifier of pupular brands or u can try urself making at ur end the olden style water purifying with water pots in 3/ 4 stages. regards p.sengupta Elena <eearthman wrote: Hi, I've been trying to illuminate all the chlorine etc from the water in our house. Mostly for bath and showers, we never drink tap water. I'm looking at a couple of different brands, one is Pelican PC1000 and another is Aquasana EQ-300. I don't care about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Hello Elena. I too am concerned about what is in our water and how harmful it is to out. I have been checking out different kinds for awhile now. Besides chlorine, I am also concerned about all the VOCs, pesticides as well as the fluoride in the water. I ruled out Reverse Osmosis plus distilled water as they take out all the minerals [the 'good' stuff ] in the water which we need - trying to replace them just doesn't seem to be as efficient nor thorough as I think it should be. Plus my understanding is that R.O. still doesn't take out the fluoride. I have been looking at the Aquasana for a couple of years now - I keep going back to them. They will say [and actually even do on their website,publically ] that their filters take out 50% of the fluoride which I has been the problem with most other companies and filters -they don't address that issue at all. I was told that all carbon filters take out 50% of the fluoride - there are two kinds of fluoride in the water - natural fluoride and a chemical derivative which is manufacturing waste from the aluminum business. The carbon filters take out the fluoride derivative which is the most harmful. I found the people at Aquasana most informative -especially compared to other companies whom seem to think I should believe whatever they say it about their products without any written proof at all. Another make that I found very effective is made by General Electric " The filter uses a 'structured matrix' filtration technology, that is certified to remove bacteria, cysts and viruses - of course it will remove any chlorine, pesticide residue or odours as well. The filter uses three mechanisms: ultrafine microstraining to physically remove bacteria, cysts, etc; broad spectrum molecular capture traps chemicals such as pesticides and chlorine, and finally electrostatic rmvoval uses charged surfaces to remove minute particles and colloids suspended in water. See www.generalecology.com for test data and more info on the filtration mechanism. " AND " Whole house water filtration system: General Ecology Seagull line. This is a fantastic water purification system that will remove any impurity from the water - chlorine, bacteria, arsenic etc. BodyGuard Shower Filter - removes chlorine, giardia etc. " There is also a kitchen filter made by the same company. Anyways; those and the Aquasana are the best I have come across, in my opinion anyhow. The Aquasana are the least expensive, inlcuding new filters - how ever does not take as much out as the General Ecology Seagull line. I just recently bought the Aquasana for the shower as well as under the kitchen sink. I haven't got the money for a whole house system as yet; but hope to get the General Ecology Seagull line for the whole house. I feel that should pretty well protect me from everything. Having the whole house one allows me to wash my face and do my teeth over the bathroom sink instead of in the shower; plus gettting chlorine and VOCs & pesticides in my clothes when I do the laundry is not good for out bodies as it is transfered from our clothes to out bodies and we absorb it transdermally. Good luck! blessings Shan --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 Thanks everyone for your very informative answers!!! Yes, I realize that the fluoride problem is not illumintated by any existing filters, and it's a concern of mine. I'm not too excited about RO, because it leaves us with pretty much " empty water " , which I'm not sure is the best. My understanding is that fluoride does not get through the skin, and through steam in the shower, as chlorine does. Am I wrong???? Also, I ran into another question - they say that the toilets will start growing bacteria if there is no chlorine... Is that the case???? Thanks so much! Elena --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Depends what you mean by Fluoride - or at least that is my understanding. From what I have been told , " Natural " fluoride is not absorbed by the human body very well at all. However what they put in the water is NOT natural fluoride. It is a chemical, a derivative of fluoride that is a toxic waste from the manufacturing of aluminium. This does go through the skin as most chemicals do. This is also very harmful to the human body. I don't know if it becomes part of the steam in the air; but since it is a chemical, it seems logical that it would. As for bacteria, chlorine and the toilet -- somebody is selling you a bag of goods or maybe a bridge. There are many safer things which could be put into the water to prevent this, if this was a problem. Though I have never heard of this happening. And many people use whole-house water filters. Plus if it were true about the bacteria growing - why does that not happen to the millions of people whom use well water - plus what about cottages and summer homes? blessings Shan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Rain water is " empty water " . Is that bad? Hardly. Any minerals you need are supplied by vegetables you eat. The small amount in water is infintesimal. Do the math and you will see what I mean. There are 2 filters that will remove fluoride -- RO and activated alumina. I have RO. It is easy to tell when an RO filter needs service. GE has a light in the dispenser to tell you. Not easy to tell with the others. Charcoal without silver is a potential bacteria brooder. The first water out of the filter in the morning can be loaded with organisms. They have been breeding all night. The front of the filter snags the chlorine and the end of the filter has no bacteriacide if there is no silver. So they freely breed.go on vacation and it will get slimy. Tear apart an icemaker filter that hasnt been flushed for a time for an education. Yes, toilet water is full of bacteria and sans bacteriocidal water they will grow if there is nutrient. Skin - yes fluoride compounds go through the skin. Skin is fairly permeable. Especially if wet for a while. (persperation qualifies) Read this http://www.tldp.com/issue/202/Notes_Fluorine.htm Best of luck Kirk > > > --- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 The bacterial mass will be nutrient limited. Clean clear water hasnt much nutrient. But if you think toilet water in a house with a well is bacteria free because you cant see a mass take a sample in for testing. Fluoride is extremely reactive. It combines with almost anything. Thats why hydrofluoric acid is used to etch glass. Most acids come in glass bottles. Not hydrofluoric. Absorption of fluoride is largely related to solubility of that particular compound. The water in my town is " naturally " fluoridated to 6ppm. At that level it stains teeth and the EPA tells pregnant women and children not to drink it. I drink it - after it is filtered by my 5 stage filter with reverse osmosis as the final stage. The only way I grow salads is in containers with RO water and imported soil. Some plants concentrate it. If you think the skin is impermeable to fluoride compounds you have been misinformed. Toxicity is again related to solubility. no treatment has been shown to cure the chronic effects of fluorine toxicity. http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/211000.htm good link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2007 Report Share Posted May 10, 2007 Check this site.. http://mimura.patmosglobal.net Visit their newsroom and their product info too. Regards Leo , surpriseshan2 wrote: > > Depends what you mean by Fluoride - or at least that is my > understanding. From what I have been told , " Natural " fluoride is not absorbed by > the human body very well at all. However what they put in the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2007 Report Share Posted May 12, 2007 Appears to be ion exchange resin. Some materials have been developed that control mine effluent. The lack of prices usually indicates they are high. Low priced sellers usually are proud of their prices and advertise them. As a technology it has promise but requires the right material for the job. RO on the other hand is technically simpler. If the dissolved material is too concentrated you get a thicker membrane, ion exchange means you need the appropriate material. If you put several in one container to make it broad spectrum then it becomes expensive - and wears out. No reverse flushing of RO. Thats why I prefer it. If I was interested in recovering values I would use resin. Some copper operations are viable because of resin. Prior to that they used iron replacement. Kirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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