Enjoy fresh produce and a healthy glow with apple cider vinegar

[Guest guest]

Ms Neff

After reading your post regarding ACV, it occured to me that I'd recently read

posts that didn't like ACV, and wanted your reaction. I sent a question to

Alkalinize for Health, a site, about the wisdom of using ACV, and received

the reply below. I seem to have had good luck with ACV, but the moderator at

Alkalinize for Health, appears to frown on its use. Can you comment?

JP

 

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Does this warning against the use of vinegar, apply, also, to apple cider

vinegar, as much, or to the same extent?

thanks

jp

 

FROM THE MODERATOR TEAM

 

YES, VINEGAR IS VINEGAR. ITS pH IS ABOUT 2.5. LIKE VINEGAR, ASPIRIN FOOLS MANY

PEOPLE INCLUDING MEDICAL SAVANTS BECAUSE IT WINS SOME MINOR BATTLE WHILE

EXPEDITING THE LOSS OF THE WAR. VINEGAR IS DEHYDRATING. THE BODY NEEDS FOODS AND

LIQUIDS THAT HYDRATE. THE REASON THAT THE SOLDIERS GAVE JESUS VINEGAR ON A

SPONGE WAS TO HASTEN HIS DEATH BY ROBBING HIM OF HYDRATION.

-

Joseph

AlkalinizeForHealth

 

 

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surpriseshan2

MCS-Canada

Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:20 PM

Enjoy fresh produce and a healthy glow

with apple cider vinegar

 

 

Enjoy fresh produce and a healthy glow with apple cider vinegar

http://www.newstarget.com/021561.html

by: Kelly Joyce Neff

 

NewsTarget) The well-known saying, " An apple a day keeps the doctor away, " is

actually derived from the old English saying: " To eat an apple before going

to bed will make the doctor beg for his bread. "

[Guest guest]

I am a 35 year old women and a WORD OF CAUTION on apple cider vinegar.

 

I started taking apple cider vinegar and within 6 weeks I was experiencing bad

symptoms of anxiety and depression. Why, apple cider vinegar can and will cause

many people with depress immune symptoms to develop a yeast over growth in their

intestinal tract with can cause an array of symptoms. I had got yeast so bad

that it was causing my heart to race to the point I had so much pressure in my

chest I thought I was having a panic attack, I was serverly depressed and had

server anxiety and panic attacks. Yeast releases toxic substances, which effect

you.

 

I had a candida test which showed yeast. Just be careful using this remedy and

you should be under a doctors care when doing so. I honestly didn't see any

true effects from drinking apple cider vinegar, it actually disrupt my life for

over a year till the yeast was back in control. I WILL NEVER EVER try this

again.

 

Rose

 

surpriseshan2 wrote: Enjoy fresh

produce and a healthy glow with apple cider vinegar

http://www.newstarget.com/021561.html

by: Kelly Joyce Neff

 

NewsTarget) The well-known saying, " An apple a day keeps the doctor away, " is

actually derived from the old English saying: " To eat an apple before going

to bed will make the doctor beg for his bread. "

[Guest guest]

I have used raw, apple cider vinegar in my drinking water (distilled) to

replace the lost minerals for over six years with the first year being a

time when I was fighting stage 3 colon cancer. I would disagree that

vinegar is vinegar. Raw, unpasteurized, organic apple cider vinegar, while

consider acidic, will have an alkaline effect on the body much the same way

as acidic fruits do. White distilled vinegar is not good for anything

except cleaning or pickling (as is indicated below). Do some research and

you will find out why. Also the information below is interesting:

 

" Apple Cider Vinegar in itself is alkaline because of its " ash " content,

which means if the apple cider vinegar was burned, what is left over becomes

ash. When you check for the pH of that ash and dissolve it with water, the

content is alkaline. Whenever our body digests anything, it undergoes

oxidation, which is similar to burning and the end result is that you can

determine whether the end product was alkaline or acid. Apple Cider Vinegar

has anti-fungal, anti-bacterial, and anti-viral properties, primarily coming

from the malic acid and acetic acid portion of the vinegar. Apple cider

vinegar acts as a buffer in the body because the acetic acid reacts with

base or acid compounds to form an acetate, therefore rendering them

chemically bioavailable for the body's utilization. Additionally, Apple

Cider Vinegar can reduce the toxicity of certain compounds by converting the

toxin into an acetate compound, which is less toxic. This is why they are

ideal for insect bites and certain skin allergies. While Apple Cider vinegar

in itself is considered alkaline, a chemically pure vinegar (acetic acid) is

neither acid nor basic forming as it leaves no ash as the entire portion,

when burned evaporates completely. "

 

" There is nothing beneficial about commercial distilled vinegars except for

pickling, cleaning and disinfection ---they have no health value! They do

not contain the health values of organic, raw apple cider vinegar with the

mother still intact and viable. Distilled white vinegar and cider vinegar

sold in supermarkets are considered " dead " vinegars with none of the enzymes

and other live factors that make raw, unpasteurized vinegars so valuable.

Distilling removes the beneficial " mother " from the vinegar, thereby,

destroying the powerful enzymes and life giving minerals such as potassium,

phosphorus, natural organic sodium, magnesium, sulphur, iron copper, natural

organic fluorine, silicon, trace minerals, pectin and other powerful

nutrients. Also destroyed are natural malic and tartaric acids, which are

important in fighting body toxins and inhibiting unfriendly bacteria growth

(Bragg 1- 4). "

 

_

 

I sent a question to Alkalinize for Health, a site, about the wisdom

of using ACV, and received the reply below. I seem to have had good luck

with ACV, but the moderator at Alkalinize for Health, appears to frown on

its use. Can you comment?

JP

 

FROM THE MODERATOR TEAM

 

YES, VINEGAR IS VINEGAR. ITS pH IS ABOUT 2.5. LIKE VINEGAR, ASPIRIN FOOLS

MANY PEOPLE INCLUDING MEDICAL SAVANTS BECAUSE IT WINS SOME MINOR BATTLE

WHILE EXPEDITING THE LOSS OF THE WAR. VINEGAR IS DEHYDRATING. THE BODY NEEDS

FOODS AND LIQUIDS THAT HYDRATE. THE REASON THAT THE SOLDIERS GAVE JESUS

VINEGAR ON A SPONGE WAS TO HASTEN HIS DEATH BY ROBBING HIM OF HYDRATION.

[Guest guest]

I use raw cider vinegar, as I have Barrett's esopagus, low grade dysplasia, a

hernia, etc., and

when my stomach hurts the vinegar stops the burn and pain instantly. The last

time I was scoped the dysplasia was gone and I feel that RCD had a lot to do

with it.

 

Read Braggs book on raw cider vinegar with mother -- great book.

 

Bless, Delene

-

Dr. Loretta Lanphier

Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:15 PM

RE: Enjoy fresh produce and a healthy

glow with apple cider vinegar

 

 

I have used raw, apple cider vinegar in my drinking water (distilled) to

replace the lost minerals for over six years with the first year being a

time when I was fighting stage 3 colon cancer. I would disagree that

vinegar is vinegar. Raw, unpasteurized, organic apple cider vinegar, while

consider acidic, will have an alkaline effect on the body much the same way

as acidic fruits do. White distilled vinegar is not good for anything

except cleaning or pickling (as is indicated below). Do some research and

you will find out why. Also the information below is interesting:

 

" Apple Cider Vinegar in itself is alkaline because of its " ash " content,

which means if the apple cider vinegar was burned, what is left over becomes

ash. When you check for the pH of that ash and dissolve it with water, the

content is alkaline. Whenever our body digests anything, it undergoes

oxidation, which is similar to burning and the end result is that you can

determine whether the end product was alkaline or acid. Apple Cider Vinegar

has anti-fungal, anti-bacterial, and anti-viral properties, primarily coming

from the malic acid and acetic acid portion of the vinegar. Apple cider

vinegar acts as a buffer in the body because the acetic acid reacts with

base or acid compounds to form an acetate, therefore rendering them

chemically bioavailable for the body's utilization. Additionally, Apple

Cider Vinegar can reduce the toxicity of certain compounds by converting the

toxin into an acetate compound, which is less toxic.

[Guest guest]

There is absolutely NO scientific evidence that apple cider vinegar forms a

clear conclusion about the efficacy or safety of apple cider vinegar for any

health condition. I used Raw organic apple cider and it didn't proof nothing

for me.

 

I am not trying to tell me not to use it, just if you do...Watch out because you

might be surprise what you might get. For me it caused me to get yeast over

growth and I'm not the only one. I have heard from many others claiming the

same thing.

 

" Dr. Loretta Lanphier " <LorettaLanphier wrote:

I have used raw, apple cider vinegar in my drinking water (distilled) to

replace the lost minerals for over six years with the first year being a

time when I was fighting stage 3 colon cancer. I would disagree that

vinegar is vinegar. Raw, unpasteurized, organic apple cider vinegar, while

consider acidic, will have an alkaline effect on the body much the same way

as acidic fruits do. White distilled vinegar is not good for anything

except cleaning or pickling (as is indicated below). Do some research and

you will find out why. Also the information below is interesting:

 

" Apple Cider Vinegar in itself is alkaline because of its " ash " content,

which means if the apple cider vinegar was burned, what is left over becomes

ash. When you check for the pH of that ash and dissolve it with water, the

content is alkaline. Whenever our body digests anything, it undergoes

oxidation, which is similar to burning and the end result is that you can

determine whether the end product was alkaline or acid. Apple Cider Vinegar

has anti-fungal, anti-bacterial, and anti-viral properties, primarily coming

from the malic acid and acetic acid portion of the vinegar. Apple cider

vinegar acts as a buffer in the body because the acetic acid reacts with

base or acid compounds to form an acetate, therefore rendering them

[Guest guest]

A quick google turns up that the moderator of alaklizeforhealth's

contention of the pH of vinegar is out by a factor of about 100 TIMES.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinegar ...maybe not authoritiative

enough but i think so for this purpose.

 

I'm not sure that any of his statements about vinegar are true, but

if he was out by a much smaller percent on other health issues as he

is in his own field of pH he could be causing a lot of trouble, no?

 

Bonnie.

 

 

, " John Polifronio "

<counterpnt wrote:

>

> Ms Neff

> After reading your post regarding ACV, it occured to me that I'd

recently read posts that didn't like ACV, and wanted your reaction.

[Guest guest]

, " Rose St.

Andrews " <shyrosepetal2 wrote:

>

> There is absolutely NO scientific evidence that apple cider

vinegar forms a clear conclusion about the efficacy or safety of

apple cider vinegar for any health condition. I used Raw organic

apple cider and it didn't proof nothing for me.

>

> I am not trying to tell me not to use it, just if you do...Watch

out because you might be surprise what you might get. For me it

caused me to get yeast over growth and I'm not the only one. I have

heard from many others claiming the same thing.

>

> " Dr. Loretta Lanphier " <LorettaLanphier

wrote: I have used raw, apple cider

vinegar in my drinking water (distilled) to

> replace the lost minerals for over six years with the first year

being a

> time when I was fighting stage 3 colon cancer. I would disagree

that

> vinegar is vinegar. Raw, unpasteurized, organic apple cider

vinegar, while

> consider acidic, will have an alkaline effect on the body much

the same way

> as acidic fruits do. White distilled vinegar is not good for

anything

> except cleaning or pickling (as is indicated below). Do some

research and

> you will find out why.

 

I agree with Loretta. Anyone who is well versed in alternative

medicine and the alternative approach to nutrition will tell you

that BRAGG's vinegar is the specific brand of organic vinegar which

supplies the healing " cultures " (if you are familiar with probiotics for

restoration of beneficial bacteria within the gut)

needed for proper digestive capability. There are basically only three major

sources;

BRAGGS Apple cider vinegar which

has passed down the beneficial cultures for generations, saurkraut, and Millett

Water,as directed have the proper cultures to

maintain good stomach flora. Anythingother than this,

even certain organic brands do not possess the same healing potential!

Certainly, as someone mentioned earlier, this is one area where specific brands

are needed to provide the necessary components.

 

Indivduals suffering from joint and muscle pain due to autoimmune

problems, such as rheumatoid arthritis, lupus and fibromyalgia,

often have a condition known as " leaky gut syndrome. "

 

Specific nutrients which coat and soothe the intestinal lining

helping to heal " leaky gut " , can help arthritis. They include the

traditional demulcent, soothing herbs such as marshmallow root and

okra, and L-glutamine, an amino which reestablishes gut integrity

and helps to re-grow flattened " villi " - the tiny finger like

protrusions that line the GI tract

 

" Dysbiosis " , the proliferation of " unfriendly " microorganisms,

including bacteria, yeast, fungi and parasites, is not widely

recognized by conventional medicine. Yet,

these organisms are present in a large majority of people who suffer

from muscle and joint pains. Bragg's apple cider vinegar acts

to discourage the growth of pathogenic

organisms, while building and supporting the immune system

 

Blessings, JoAnn

[Guest guest]

If someone contends that ACV dilutes stomach acid overly much, then

does he or she also believe that drinking water (which is more

alakaline than ACV) is even more harmful?

 

Alobar

[Guest guest]

Rose, couldn't that yeast overgrowth in the bowel have been caused by

something other than the vinegar?

 

Probiotic organisms naturally give off the exact same acid - acetic

acid - to control yeast overgrowth and other pathogens that are

involved in dysbiosis.

 

Maybe there was some sugar content left in the apple cider vinegar

for the organisms to work on but I doubt even the low amount of sugar

that might be in the vinegar could a problem.

 

Bonnie.

 

 

 

, " Rose St. Andrews "

<shyrosepetal2 wrote:

>

> I am a 35 year old women and a WORD OF CAUTION on apple cider

vinegar.

>

> I started taking apple cider vinegar and within 6 weeks I was

experiencing bad symptoms of anxiety and depression. Why, apple

cider vinegar can and will cause many people with depress immune

symptoms to develop a yeast over growth in their intestinal tract

[Guest guest]

Bonnie,

 

I'm a natural food eater. I don't eat meat, the only meat I eat is

fish/seafood. I eat lots of raw/lightly steamed vegetables. I do eat fruit, but

not as much as I should. I eat lots of salads. I consume a healthy diet. I do

not drink coffee, tea, soda or anything that contains sugar in it. I do not

drink any alcohol beverages either. Never have.

 

I was perfectly healthy and fine up till ( I say) about 4-5 weeks of taking

apple cider vinegar. I started using the Raw organic (Bragg's) vinegar because

I read his book and saw all the healing properties in it. My first symptoms I

got within 1 week of the apple cider was being fatigue and weakness. I didn't

associate it with the vinegar. I continue to keep taking it and I got weaker

and weaker. Then the depression started and I was becoming constipated and sick

to my stomach. I then noticed around the 4 th week my stools looked strange, I

cannot explain it. I stopped the vinegar usage and some of my symptoms went

away. I was still very depressed and having issues with my stools. So, I went

to a wellness center and she ran some test. Candida was one of them and It was

pretty bad. I asked Lori if the raw organic cider could of done it. She said

absolutely. She told me to STOP ingesting it. I did.

 

I was put on a Candida diet and within 6 weeks I was finally beginning to feel

better. I was well again, not 100%, but almost, and wanted to test the theory

to see if the apple cider vinegar was the culprit. In within one week I

again was very exhausted and my stools where looking strange again (almost

yeasty looking) I stopped the vinegar. I immediately went on my Candida diet.

I know it's caused from the vinegar. I will not use it again.

 

I'm happy to hear others had success with it. It is not for me! Caused me way

to much issues and trouble.

 

Rose

 

 

Bonnie Moss <bonnie0moss wrote: Rose,

couldn't that yeast overgrowth in the bowel have been caused by

something other than the vinegar?

 

Probiotic organisms naturally give off the exact same acid - acetic

acid - to control yeast overgrowth and other pathogens that are

involved in dysbiosis.