ADD/ADHD

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

 

I realize I don't post much, but this topic is close

to my heart and I have been watching the subject

closely.

 

I firmly believe that ADD/ADHD is a true medical

condition. Initially, I thought it was a label used

to give parents a license to drug their kids into

submission and to help overcrowded classrooms. Then I

had my son.

 

We have not found relief from any of the traditional

drugs (and not so traditional drugs) used for

ADD/ADHD, even though we have medical proof that the

condition exists in my child. Why does the medication

not bring relief? Anyone's guess. Why do so many

children with ADD/ADHD get relief from stimulants? My

guess is that they do not metabolize the drug

components in the same manner as adults do (which is

who these drugs were initially designed and used

off-label in children as are the majority of drugs on

the market).

 

It is true that many children are labeled with these

two terms, and I agree that many, if not most, are not

accurately diagnosed, rather given the easiest label

to drug em and move em on. The only accurate way to

diagnose ADHD is via an EEG to accurately assess the

brains true functioning for a given individual. I have

seen children that I would swear are extremely ADHD

who have had several EEG's that show proper

functioning in the brain.

 

Yes, there are various factors which can contribute to

this type of behavior, however, from a neurological

standpoint, an EEG (brain wave test) can pick up

whether or not the brain is firing properly.

 

I have a 9 year old son who has been diagnosed with

severe ADHD, oppositional defiance disorder, sensory

integration issues, and other issues that they can't

find a label for. Labels tend to make alot of people

feel better. I am finding that labels mean doodly

sqat and finding " treatments " or workable solutions

are much more important than just finding a label that

might fit, writing out a perscription, and/or blaming

the parent.

 

I have been told it is my bad parenting, poor

nutrition, allergies, and host of other things. I

realize my situation is probably very different from

most as my son was born at 25 weeks gestation and

considered a micro-premie, who has been afflicted with

developmental delays and other issues. But in any

case, the condition is still there.

 

I am not a perfect parent and have made my mistakes,

but I refuse to accept responsibility for the issues

we face that are so troublesome for my child. It

breaks my heart to see him in such turmoil.

 

Don't get me wrong, poor parenting can be a huge

factor, but I believe that most parents are at least

adequate for the task.

 

I am looking for a copy of a study about children and

ADD/ADHD that I received from our allergist. Yes,

allergies play a significant role in the manifestation

of symptoms. I have witnessed this in my own child.

 

Regarding diet and nutrition, it is often an allergy

or sensitivity to the preservatives and colorings (or

even the food itself) that can open the gate for

ADD/ADHD behavior surges. I personally don't believe

that sugar causes huge ADHD symptoms in children. I

am sure I will get a back lash from many about this,

but I have done mini-experiments on this and believe

this to be false. I don't think sugar is good for

children for a variety of reasons (not necessary,

causes tooth decay, etc.), but I do not see a strong

correlation to a short sugar burst of energy and ADHD

which is long in duration. Nutrition is very important

for everyone and poor nutrition causes a series of

maladies if not properly attended to. Some are:

vitamin deficiencies leading to chronic health

problems such vision problems, obesity, anorexia, skin

problems, organ function problems, etc. In a

developing brain and body, such as it is for children,

anything can manifest.

 

A few years back I was beginning to experiment with my

son with the use of some oils to work with his

ADD/ADHD. Unfortunately, circumstances forced me to

place this on the back burner for quite some time. I

plan to pick it back up once again very shortly.

 

As for my son, who I believe to be truly severely

ADHD, we have been able to foster his education via

the proper school program. They have placed him in a

resource class which has no more than 8 students at a

time - this helps them to help keep him on task and

avoid the many sensory stimulants that his brain does

not allow him to " block " out. It took an attorney to

get this accomplished for us (the school was trying to

place him in a special school for children with severe

mental disorders). He has thrived in this

environment. He is a 3rd grader reading at 7-8th grade

level, doing 5th grade math, and has even become a

student tutor in reading for students who need

assistance and don't work well with their teachers.

He helped a classmate come very far very fast in 3

weeks - something the teachers had been unable to do

in months. Who would have thought...

 

Since he has been in special ed, they have also tested

him for gifted and talented, which he easily qualified

for. So my special ed kid is actually a very bright

child with physical issues that he cannot control with

or without medication.

 

While I don't have any real answers (I continue to

search for them for our circumstances), lets try to

look outside the box that has been created on this

issue and see if we can all be more objective in our

understanding and how we respond to ADD/ADHD.

 

*jumping off my soapbox*

Laura

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Laura,

 

You have my total sympathy.

Congratulations for finding the right school set-up

for your son!

 

I will never forget the Dr. John Taylor seminar

that started my whole involvement in this topic.

Ironically, we did know about ADD without

the typical H, which is what we have in our

family, until AFTER we had found something

that helped.

 

Dr John Taylor is a clinical psychologist who

has 8 kids of his own, 5 of whom have ADHD

in some severity or another.

 

The best part of the seminar was the huge round

of applause for the group of parents onstage.

 

And we thought we had a difficult child!

 

The first part of my little series briefly goes into exactly

this question.

After reading your post I elaborated a bit more to make it very clear that some

kids are different all right!

 

The good thing is that we don't have to know if ADHD

is real or not in order to improve things.

 

I was basically trying to make exactly your point:

 

Laura wrote:

< I am finding that labels mean doodly

squat and finding " treatments " or workable solutions

are much more important than just finding a label that

might fit, writing out a prescription, and/or blaming

the parent.>

 

AMEN!

 

Like most natural health measures. You don't try

to cure disease, you work to build health.

You probably know most of what I have already

but not everybody does.

 

I am just trying to write it all out in an easily

understandable way so I don't have to explain the

same things over and over.

 

Which oils were you playing with?

I have been told that Vetiver is very grounding.

I did indeed feel that, but oils are not my forte.

 

Anyway, oils and nutrition are complementary.

 

Ien in the Kootenays

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[Guest guest]

Dear List Members,

 

I am looking for a practitioner in the Metro West area of Boston who have

specialized in pediatric care with an emphasis in ADD/ADHD and learning

impairment problems.

 

I am also interested in knowing for general reference the best approaches to

these problems using any kind of energy medicine.

 

Thank You,

Carl Ploss

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi. I've been researching the role that EFAs and minerals play in

ADD/ADHD or the lack thereof. I found that many children, as young as

2 years old, are being prescribed drugs for ADD/HD! Wow!!! Does anyone

have any insights on this? My nephew has just been diagnosed with ADD

and is on his second type of drug. Does anyone know of any

research/clincal trials in this area?

[Guest guest]

My husband has ADD and I am very Dyslectic. I found Vaxa's Attend, Extress and

Deprex in a three pak. It has helped us both. It is well worth the research.

 

 

Hi. I've been researching the role that EFAs and minerals play in

ADD/ADHD or the lack thereof. I found that many children, as young as

2 years old, are being prescribed drugs for ADD/HD! Wow!!! Does anyone

have any insights on this? My nephew has just been diagnosed with ADD

and is on his second type of drug. Does anyone know of any

research/clincal trials in this area?

[Guest guest]

Many of the sites linked to this forum have good info . Start at mercola.com.

Also go to pudmed. Just google it when you get on the pubmed web site . Search

adhd . add and treatments ect. THere is a ton of information there Good luck

 

slvanriper <slvanriper wrote: Hi. I've been researching the

role that EFAs and minerals play in

ADD/ADHD or the lack thereof. I found that many children, as young as

2 years old, are being prescribed drugs for ADD/HD! Wow!!! Does anyone

have any insights on this? My nephew has just been diagnosed with ADD

and is on his second type of drug. Does anyone know of any

research/clincal trials in this area?

[Guest guest]

, " slvanriper "

<slvanriper wrote:

>>>Does anyone have any insights on this? My nephew has just been

diagnosed with ADD and is on his second type of drug. Does anyone

know of any research/clincal trials in this area?<<<

 

Take refined sugar out of this child's diet. He will be a new kid.

Horribly...people are too lazy and do NOT want to 'think' that hard -

so they opt for the medication.

 

Give me ONE child who has ADD/ADHD who has NO refined sugar in

his/her diet...(tapping foot) nope...can't find one.

 

I am glad you are on top of this...I can see you want to make a

difference. I highly suggest you research the effects of refined

sugar.

Also...don't take my word for it. Do an experiment - take it out of

his diet for one month - you will SEE the results.

 

While you are researching...also look into hypoglycemia. One good

note to remember while on your quest is that low blood sugar can

cause all sorts of emotional outbreaks and mood swings and

inattentiveness. Make sure the child (and you as an adult can take

this advice as well) is eating (a small amount) of protein every 2 to

3 hours. (in the form of...a slice of turkey or a handful of

almonds) - that always helps keep a person on task, once he has been

taken off the addictive 'stimulant' sugar.

Note: refined sugar is in taco seasoning as well as ketchup...so read

the labels. NO refined sugar!!

 

Good luck

 

Donna

N. Cali.

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[Guest guest]

How old is your nephew?

 

A friend of mine is ADD and treats himself with Native

American methods. He gets by on about 4 hours of

sleep a night; uses the awake time for reading,

studying, and doing organic gardening. Also, for

making his own herbal remedies for his family.

 

Leon

[Guest guest]

I'm with Donna on this one. I have 3 sons, who I figured were just typical

boys, active and curious. Well, the oldest 2, were never diagnosed with ADHD,

but the SCHOOL tried to tell me they had it and tried to get me to put them on

ritilan. My youngest boy, the SCHOOL said had ADD, without the hyperactivity,

they tried to put him on ritilan. I fought for years to keep my sons off of

their drugs. I took them off refined flours, sugar, and carbonated drinks.

When the youngest boy seemed to lag, I gave him pygnogenol, which at the time,

was touted as a help for ADD, and it actually did help him concentrate better.

There are many more herbal supplements I would give them if I knew then, what I

know now!

 

Donna <idraw wrote: --- In

, " slvanriper "

<slvanriper wrote:

>>>Does anyone have any insights on this? My nephew has just been

diagnosed with ADD and is on his second type of drug. Does anyone

know of any research/clincal trials in this area?<<<

 

Take refined sugar out of this child's diet. He will be a new kid.

Horribly...people are too lazy and do NOT want to 'think' that hard

[Guest guest]

There are some good recipes on http://www.therapyessence.com dealing

with all kinds of behaviour issues. They don't sell products so you

have to mix it yourself. I found it very good.

 

Frank

 

, Marsha Abernethy

<bigslowsmom wrote:

>

> I'm with Donna on this one. I have 3 sons, who I figured were just

typical boys, active and curious. Well, the oldest 2, were never

diagnosed with ADHD, but the SCHOOL tried to tell me they had it and

tried to get me to put them on ritilan. My youngest boy, the SCHOOL

said had ADD, without the hyperactivity, they tried to put him on

ritilan. I fought for years to keep my sons off of their drugs. I

[Guest guest]

Its hard when you are pressured to make good decisions . To anyone who has this

issue find a Doctor who understands that there are many avenues too pursue

before a formal call of add can be made . Research and find a medical Dr. in

your area who understands the role of food allergies etc in these type of

conditions. Dr. Lydon smith has done some of this type of research. Look at Dr.

Andrew Stolls work on omega 3 fats. Find a MD who will work with you. They are

out there. Good Luck

 

Marsha Abernethy <bigslowsmom wrote: I'm with Donna on this

one. I have 3 sons, who I figured were just typical boys, active and curious.

Well, the oldest 2, were never diagnosed with ADHD, but the SCHOOL tried to tell

me they had it and tried to get me to put them on ritilan. My youngest boy, the

SCHOOL said had ADD, without the hyperactivity, they tried to put him on

ritilan. IHorribly...people are too lazy and do NOT want to 'think' that hard

[Guest guest]

A new approach to understanding often misdiagnosed ADD/ADHD is to

study up on Indigo/Crystal children/adults. There are many good

links to these subjects on the internet. It is a whole new

perspective and very enlightening.

 

Di

 

 

, vince miraglia

<vincemiraglia wrote:

>

> Its hard when you are pressured to make good decisions . To anyone

who has this issue find a Doctor who understands that there are many

avenues too pursue before a formal call of add can be made . Research

and find a medical Dr. in your area who understands the role of

food allergies etc in these type of conditions. Dr. Lydon smith has

[Guest guest]

, vince miraglia

<vincemiraglia wrote:

>>>>find a Doctor who understands that there are many avenues too

pursue before a formal call of add can be made . Research and find a

medical Dr. in your area who understands the role of food allergies

etc in these type of conditions.<<<

 

Medical doctors are trained and educated in 'medicine'. They fix things

with 'medicine'.

So let me think what the odds are that 'medicine' will be the cure??

 

I would recommend finding a good library in your area and educate

yourself on health and/or a good natural doctor...someone who is

educated in 'healing' and not 'medicine'.

 

Donna

N. Cali.

[Guest guest]

Find a great kinesiologist; they have helped my family immensely.

 

Di

 

, " Donna "

<idraw wrote:

>

> , vince miraglia

> <vincemiraglia@> wrote:

> >>>>find a Doctor who understands that there are many avenues too

> pursue before a formal call of add can be made . Research and find

a

> medical Dr. in your area who understands the role of food

[Guest guest]

I agree that this person needs to do some research and many links on this

website can help her. She also needs healer or a coach to help her find relevant

info. This person could be a good natural doctor, an MD who understands health

there are some just review the links on this web site. But it needs to be

someone committed to wellness, There tittle matters less than there knowledge

 

Donna <idraw wrote: --- In

, vince miraglia

<vincemiraglia wrote:

>>>>find a Doctor who understands that there are many avenues too

pursue before a formal call of add can be made . Research and find a

medical Dr. in your area who understands the role of food allergies

etc in these type of conditions.<<<