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lej3030(lej3030) wrote:

 

>Does anyone have any experience using

> natural progesterone? I have read some

> of it's negative is it's stored in fat cells

> and stays there up to 2 years. Thanks.

 

I have been using a low-dose natural progesterone cream called Pro-Gest,

available from health food stores in the U.S., since 1999. I started

using it to deal with the excruciating pain of endometriosis, for which

it has proven to be remarkably effective. Now that that is no longer a

problem for me, I continue to use it because it also helps me with

depression, anxiety, and insomnia. I am 50 years old and approaching

menopause.

 

I've heard the negative stuff about it being stored in fat cells and

being hard to eliminate from the body and all that. Well, I have no

idea what is stored in my fat cells, frankly, and I can only say I

continue to get benefits from it, and I have been using it almost 8

years now. There are much higher-dose creams available and perhaps that

is where the problems lie, I don't know.

 

Cathy B.

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Hi Cathy, thanks for the information, I appreciate it. I'm

interested in using it because of fibroids, which are a result of

high estrogen low progesterone. I am currently using Wild Yam as an

alternative. It's been determined I don't need to have them removed

considering I didn't know they were there until the sonogram. I am,

however, interested in having a proper hormonal balance as I've read

progesterone does assist in mood swings related to PMS, depression,

energy levels, etc.

 

As I read up on all of this I've found B vitamins are an essential

part of women's health as well. Apparently, the liver plays a huge

role in the production of hormones, which is directly related to

issues concerning depression.

 

Have you seen Women's Bodies, Women's Wisdom by Christiane Northrup?

It's a great compendium on women's health. She recommends the

natural progesteron cream, but I have the 1998 edition, not the

updated one, and a lot happens in 9 years.

 

Jenny

 

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" lej3030 " <lej3030 wrote:

 

>Hi Cathy, thanks for the information, I

> appreciate it. I'm interested in using it

> because of fibroids, which are a result

> of high estrogen low progesterone.

 

Hi, Jenny,

 

I hate to tell you this, but I would NOT recommend natural progesterone

cream for control of fibroids, in spite of what progesterone-advocating

doctors such as Dr. John Lee and Dr. Christiane Northrup, have

recommended.

 

In my previous post I mentioned that I used it successfully for

endometriosis, but I also had fibroids which GREW during that time,

which I had removed by surgery (myomectomy) in 2005--I didn't HAVE to

have them removed, but I had to have emergency surgery to have an ovary

removed due to an infected cyst, so I requested to have the fibroids

removed at the same time.

 

When I first started using natural progesterone cream back in 1999, I

was under the impression from what I had read in books by Dr. Lee and

Dr. Northrup that the progesterone cream would also be helpful with the

fibroids, but this turned out not to be the case--it was only helpful

for the endometriosis.

 

Some years later I went online and joined some online support groups for

women with endometriosis and fibroids, and what I found out from other

women pretty much mirrored my own experience--the women with

endometriosis love natural progesterone cream because it stops the pain,

and the women with fibroids hate the stuff because it made their

fibroids grow. Many of the women with fibroids were bitterly

disappointed and very angry at how much their fibroids grew and the need

to have surgery for the problem as a result.

 

In my particular case, I was having so much pain from the endometriosis

that I have no regrets about using the progesterone cream because it

solved that problem completely, even though my fibroids grew

significantly. For me it was worth it. But for women whose primary

concern is fibroids, using progesterone cream probably is not a wise

course of action.

 

Dr. John Lee, who recommended natural progesterone cream for both

endometriosis and fibroids in his early books, actually recanted on the

issue of fibroids in his later books, stating that the natural

progesterone might very well stimulate larger fibroids to grow.

 

Cathy B.

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Cathy, thanks so much for telling me this. You don't know how much

I appreciate it.

 

I wonder if the Wild Yam might assist their growth as well, which I

am taking, may just stop that too. Thank you thank you. This is

what I find frustrating about holistic healers-- They have a similar

smugness traditional doctors have. And yet, they say: Take your

health into your own hands. How are you supposed to do this when the

info is crossed or inaccurate or out of date?

 

I was thinking of taking the cream to balance out the hormones, I

had no expectations the fibroid would shrink. I think I will look

into that support group thing, to get more info. You have just

simplified my life awhole lot...

 

Jenny

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nevercomestheday wrote:

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> " lej3030 " <lej3030 wrote:

>

> >Hi Cathy, thanks for the information, I

> > appreciate it. I'm interested in using it

> > because of fibroids, which are a result

> > of high estrogen low progesterone.

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I can't go without my " Enjoy " ....progesterone cream! It's natural, I get it from

my local health food store.

Along with the progesterone, I take these supplements.

 

B Complex

C

Zinc

Evening Primrose Oil

Magnesium

 

Since I've been doing this, my MAJOR anxieties have been highly reduced,

improved my mood swings greately and I feel sooooo much better while I'm on my

periods. Better than I have ever felt since I started. That might sounds extreme

to some but I didn't have a healthy upbringing...nuff said there!

Anyhoo....I hope this helps.

 

For more info on perimenopause go here http://drphil.com/articles/article/118

I printed it out and have been living by in since and my life is much better

because of it.

Cindee {:o)

 

Natural Progesterone

Posted by: " lej3030 " lej3030 lej3030

Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:30 am (PST)

Does anyone have any experience using natural progesterone? I have read

some of it's negative is it's stored in fat cells and stays there up to 2 years.

Thanks.

 

 

 

 

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I think its a little simplistic to say don't use it to treat fibroids.

They can cause fibroids to grow IF your hormones remain out of balance.

Dr Lee no longer thinks everyone should use hormone creams longterm - he

insists on ongoing testing - if you are getting the right amount of

cream for you, with correct mix of the hormones you are deficient in,

then they're going to help. but longterm use without ongoing testing

can cause problems. So the answer isn't as simple as go order or buy a

creme and use it. There are home test kits available through

http://www.hormoneprofiles.com You need to check your levels each six

months or so, or have them tested. Best is if you can get a creme made

up specifically for you, based on your testing, so an exact amount based

on your specific needs can be made up - but you do need to be seeing a

doctor to have this done, a doctor who will continue to do testing of

your balances. Sara

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Sara, from what I've read the cream is used to balance the hormones,

not to shrink the fibroids. The only thing I am aware of that

shrinks them is menopause. I am also under the impression women

choose to use the cream to help them with PMS, cramping, mood swings,

endometriosis (sp?)etc. as some of the respondents have posted to my

original query.

 

 

, Sara Mandal-Joy

<smjlists wrote:

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> I think its a little simplistic to say don't use it to treat

fibroids.

> They can cause fibroids to grow IF your hormones remain out of

balance.

> Dr Lee no longer thinks everyone should use hormone creams

longterm - he

> insists on ongoing testing - if you are getting the right amount

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My experience with natural progesterone cream & fibroids has been a totally

positive one. I suffered horribly until I started on the NPC. I take a

week off every month to allow the hormone receptors to not get overwhelmed.

I can't say enough about this wonderful stuff!

 

Malinda

 

 

 

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