salve question

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My Mom (in her late 70's - for a time period reference only!) had a tin of a

black salve that could be put onto cuts to keep away or draw out an infection.

The tin was round and had a sticker on it, but neither of us can remember what

it was called or had in it. It was completely smooth, no grit or any other

identifiable stuff... she used to put it on with a toothpick and it did not

stain or burn.

She is from Buffalo,NY always bought it when she visited back there. But has

not been able to buy it for more than 20 years.The only smell I can remember is

of lanolin, no distinct smells otherwise... it had a blackish dark green hue...

 

Any ideas what it could have been ... made from or anything else?

I know its rather vague, but ... we're talking a long time ago!

 

Ask any question you need to , maybe it will spark a memory to help ID this ,

we'd like to make it , find it again!

 

BG

 

 

 

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I have a product called Blue Star Ointment that is or might be similar. I

have heard of using " black salve " on boils or other below-the-skin

infections to " draw out " the infection. Did you try to google " drawing

slaves " ? I am 65 (will be in Feb) and while my family was more oriented

towards conventional medicine (my dad was a pharmacist and worked for Eli

Lilly), I know of this as a " folk medicine. "

 

Linda Michaels

Gambier, Ohio

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" Boise_Girl " <BoiseGirl

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Thursday, December 07, 2006 11:50 PM

salve question

 

 

> My Mom (in her late 70's - for a time period reference only!) had a tin of

> a black salve that could be put onto cuts to keep away or draw out an

> infection. The tin was round and had a sticker on it, but neither of us

> can remember what it was called or had in it. It was completely smooth, no

> grit or any other identifiable stuff... she used to put it on with a

> toothpick and it did not stain or burn.

> She is from Buffalo,NY always bought it when she visited back there. But

> has not been able to buy it for more than 20 years.The only smell I can

> remember is of lanolin, no distinct smells otherwise... it had a blackish

> dark green hue...

>

> Any ideas what it could have been ... made from or anything else?

> I know its rather vague, but ... we're talking a long time ago!

>

> Ask any question you need to , maybe it will spark a memory to help ID

> this , we'd like to make it , find it again!

>

> BG

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have what is called black drawing salve. The real name is Ichthammol

Ointment 20%. It comes in a blue-green tube and it really-really

works. I don't know how " healthy " it is to use, but my autistic son

slid across a wood floor and got a 1 1/2 " splinter in his calf and the

doctor would not mess with it because I had already started doctoring

it myself with the salve. In a warm bath the next night the splinter

eased out and we saw how long it really was. This stuff is pretty good.

Brenda

[Guest guest]

My family used a black salve that we were told was a form Ichthehol, used to

" draw " boils to a head, so the core could be extracted & boiled out with

hydrogen peroxide. Most older druggist knew what I was asking for when I asked

for it as an adult, for my childrens' occasional boils, and would tell me the

most recent product's name and producer. Now boils are treated (even for

children) with antibiotics. My grandmother would say if we started producing

too many boils that there was impurities in our blood and would give us remedies

for strenthening and detoxifying the blood. There were several foul tasting

teas, lots of onion and garlic ferments, castor oil purges, molasses (for iron)

and cod liver oil, and lots of cooked and raw greens. I am not sure of the

correct spelling of Ichthehol; this is the phonetics of the way we pronounced

it. Norma P.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

, " Brenda "

<pacefamx7 wrote:

>

> I have what is called black drawing salve. The real name is

Ichthammol Ointment 20%. It comes in a blue-green tube and it

really-really works. I don't know how " healthy " it is to use, but

my autistic son slid across a wood floor and got a 1 1/2 " splinter

in his calf and the doctor would not mess with it because I had

already started doctoring it myself with the salve. In a warm bath

the next night the splinter eased out and we saw how long it really

was. This stuff is pretty good.

Brenda

 

--

Contemporary History of the Escharotic Black Salve

narrated by Clark Bigham to Dr. Michael Tierra

---

 

It was some 28 years ago, that my son was diagnosed with

glomurulonephritis. Since conventional western medicine has nothing

to offer by the way of treatment for this condition except

palliative treatment with cortical steroids, I was looking for any

other viable alternative that was available. It was during that

time, in the middle of Wyoming that a friend told me about a cowboy

named Howard McCreary. He said that Howard had a mysterious black

salve that could be used either externally or internally to treat

and cure a wide variety of problems and that it could be possibly

effective for my son's glomurulonephritis.

 

Howard was literally a cowboy, having won numerous awards in rodeos

throughout the country including Madison Square Garden in New York.

He received two silver buckles and was world champion for two years

in a row. At the time that I met him, he weighed around 275 pounds,

mostly muscle.

 

It seemed that Howard's father passed down a secret anti-cancer

formula in the form of a paste comprised of Sanguinaria, commonly

known as " bloodroot " , Galangal, Zinc Chloride and distilled water.

Through a dream, Howard further developed a modification of this

formula, including a proprietary method of preparation that

increased its efficaciousness not only for cancer but a broad

spectrum of other diseases, simple and acute, as well as chronic.

 

I spent the better part an entire day speaking with Howard about my

son and the various uses for which he had successfully employed the

salve. He had an album of photographs showing the many successfully

treatments he had accumulated over the years. The pictures were very

similar to those found in Dr. Moh's book, Chemosurgery (publ. by

Charles C. Thomas, 1978). Throughout all of this, he was very open

and gracious with me in every way, bought me lunch, inviting me to

stay overnight. Upon leaving, he gave me a half-pint of the salve to

bring home. Because this was all given freely with no hooks

attached, I was rightly predisposed to trust and believe him.

 

Among the many wondrous uses of this seemingly miraculous salve,

Howard told of using it as an eyewash, diluted one part to a

thousand parts water. One way he had to determine whether anyone was

with him or 'agin em' was to ask them to put it in their eyes. This

I did, putting a drop in each eye. At first it stung for about 30

seconds and caused my eye to become mildly irritated. Within a short

while, however, the mild irritating condition completely cleared up

leaving my vision clearer and brighter than before. You might

consider this my initiation to it.

 

As a result of Howard's eyewash trial I have personally recommended

it to a number of people with glaucoma and macular degeneration. It

seems to be highly effective for one type of glaucoma and in about

five cases of macular degeneration it proved to be 100% effective.

 

My wife used the salve topically on a mole. It also became

characteristically inflamed with considerable discomfort and pain.

Generally it takes about 8 hours for the area over which the salve

is applied to blow up with the characteristic inflammation and

whitening on the surface of the skin.

From anywhere from 7 to 11 days, the core (eschar) would drop off,

leaving a shallow hollow core in the skin. Rarely would this be

accompanied with bleeding and never with infection. This would be

kept clean with an antiseptic solution such as hydrogen peroxide and

covered. Usually this healed within a month with barely a scar. The

fresh skin that healed over it was tender, like a new baby skin.

 

In the case of my wife's mole, it was completely eliminated. I have

never found the salve to damage unaffected tissues. Since my wife

had a hair mole, when the tissue healed over, the hair came back.

This attests to the fact that the salve didn't even disturb the

underlying hair follicle.

 

After over 28 years experience in using the Black Salve it is my

belief that applied topically or taken internally, it has a

propensity to seek out problems in the body. It is not a universal

panacea for all ills but at least offers a window of opportunity for

the individual to make other changes that may be necessary for

lasting healing to occur.

 

Despite all of this, influenced by the negative opinions of the

doctor's who were overseeing the care of my son, I remained

reluctant to give it to him. For the next two years my son was in

and out of the hospital almost weekly. Finally, out of desperation,

I decided to give him the salve internally. It was interesting

because after taking the salve my son did not go into the hospital

again for over six months. Without any recent checkup, and based

only on prior history, the doctors decided that it was time for my

son to have a kidney transplant. We trusted the doctors and we

stopped giving the salve to my son because of the fear that it would

stimulate the immune system and result in his body rejecting the

transplanted kidney.

 

In fact, despite the fact that my son had not been taking the salve

for some time, he rejected the transplant and a subsequent second

transplant later. Later, however, when my son developed peritonitis,

I gave him the salve to take internally and it worked very well.

 

I learned from the cowboy that the salve generally works very well

with all infections perhaps with the exception of gastrointestinal

ulcers for which it can be irritating. I gave the salve to one

person with colitis and told him that it may cause a temporary

aggravation. This it did for about three or four days, after which

the colitis was completely cleared up with no recurrence.

 

This same man, however, told me that while he had no further colitis

symptoms, his ankle developed an unusual pain. I asked him if he

ever had an injury to his ankle. He said that when he was much

younger, he jumped off the end of a bridge and broke his ankle. I

asked if it was the same foot. He said " yes. " " Was it the same

place? " " Yes. " About a week later he called me again and " yep, the

ankle seems fine now. "

 

 

VIPONT CHEMICAL PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY

 

Vipont Pharmaceutical Company, located in Fort Collins, Colorado was

formed over 30 years ago by the cowboy and a friend specifically to

research and develop the salve and eventually get it approved by the

FDA. Vipont had a very sophisticated laboratory and had raised

between one and one and a half million dollars to fund their

research. I was with them for three years as chairman of the board.

 

At first I got involved with them with the prospect of making money

off of the salve. Eventually, after seeing all the good it was doing

and could do for so many people with otherwise incurable diseases

such as cancer, I put in over $500,000 of my personal money.

 

At that time the FDA may not have been as rigid as they are today

and the salve was classified " IND " meaning " Investigational New

Drug. " 'Officially' its first intended purpose was for the treatment

of periodontal disease for which it had been extensively used on

animals in veterinary practice. Of course, it was also used

extensively and successfully on animals for various types of cancer.

While our primary aim was to have the salve approved for the

treatment of cancer in humans, at one point we realized that we

needed more money to continue our research and to go through the

complicated and expensive approval process. As a result we

petitioned for its use for periodontal disease. Because of this,

when we later requested approval for cancer, the FDA argued that it

was not possible to have a drug approved for such widely diverse

usage as periodontal disease and cancer and they shut us down.

 

At one point we sent a sample to be tested at the Mayo clinic. I

still have the letter from the investigating researcher stating that

the black salve exhibited highly active anticancer properties in

vitro.

 

Eventually Vipont was bought out by Viadent (a division of Colgate)

and was put into their toothpaste. Because however, Viadent chose to

use it as an extracted ingredient, leave out the galangal, claiming

that it had no therapeutic value in the formulation, instead of in

its pure whole form, it never worked as well as it did previously.

To this day, I will make the Black Salve toothpaste, adding about a

5% ratio to Tom's toothpaste, not other commercial brands, and give

it to friends and acquaintances. It is highly efficacious with even

casual brushing in clearing up periodontal disease.

 

Since the Black Salve is taken internally, Vipont had its LD50

toxicity tested. It turns out to be quite safe with an LD50 of 700

mg. per kilogram of body weight. The recommended daily internal dose

for a person is only around 150 to 250 mg. once daily. This is well

within the safe, non-toxic range. In fact I had a man who

misunderstood my instructions and took one teaspoon a day for three

days. He said, he felt nothing but sleight mild gastric discomfort.

 

In general for internal use, I recommend that it not be taken on an

empty stomach and that the salve be put into a small gelatin capsule

with gelatin.

 

While the ingredients in the salve are simple, consisting of zinc

chloride, powdered sanguinaria and galangal and distilled water, the

sequence and conditions of how these are put together is also

important. In general, we have found that the Black Salve does not

work as well when a lot of things are added to it. It may also be

that the preparation lessens and alters the caustic principle of the

zinc chloride.

 

I have given it to numerous people for a wide variety of problems

ranging from moles, skin cancers, other cancers, influenza, colds,

eyes problems, gastrointestinal inflammations, skin diseases

including psoriasis and other conditions too numerous to list. My

inclination, since the Black Salve seems to seek out diseased areas

of the body, is to try it for just about any known condition. More

often than not, I have been astounded with the results.

 

Cosmetically, I have added a 5 to 10% solution to a cream (not

moisturizing) to be put directly on fingernails. This seems to make

them grow stronger and faster. At one time I added a 15 to 20%

solution to shampoos and hair conditioners and the result was that

it stopped dandruff and other scalp diseases and brought life back

into the hair, making it grow fuller and more lustrous. I have never

used it to stimulate hair growth. Now I only use a 5% solution for

the scalp for fear that it may unintentionally remove a cherished

mole.

 

Regarding claims of others that the Black Salve is dangerous or the

Naturopath in Arizona who reports applying to a breast carcinoma and

having it erode the carotid artery, requiring drastic medical

intervention, I have never seen any serious negative effect in over

28 years of use. I have personally found that while other formulas

advocate up to 50% zinc chloride, the version that I use and that

was extensively tested by Vipont Chemical Company only uses about a

third and this seems enough to produce its therapeutic effects.

 

From planetherbs.com

[Guest guest]

, " Norma Pirie "

<pirie wrote:

>

> My family used a black salve that we were told was a form

Ichthehol, used to " draw " boils to a head, so the core could be

extracted & boiled out with hydrogen peroxide. Most older druggist

knew what I was asking for when I asked for it as an adult, for my

childrens' occasional boils, and would tell me the most recent

product's name and producer. Now boils are treated (even for

children) with antibiotics. My grandmother would say if we started

producing too many boils that there was impurities in our blood and

would give us remedies for strenthening and detoxifying the blood.

There were several foul tasting teas, lots of onion and garlic

ferments, castor oil purges, molasses (for iron) and cod liver oil,

and lots of cooked and raw greens. I am not sure of the correct

spelling of Ichthehol; this is the phonetics of the way we

pronounced it. Norma P.

 

 

Hi Norma,

Thanks for sharing. I totally agree with your grandmother and find

it interesting also to note that friends who consume even moderate

to enormous quantities of Crystal Light/Equal/aspartame are

constantly exhibiting these boils over a large expanse of their

body. Also I can cite numerous examples of those with refined

sugar/chocolate addictions subsequently experiencing boils with very

good success eliminating them bypassing refined carbs/sugars and making good use

of the typical old fashioned " bread and milk " poultice.

 

Blessings,

JoAnn