Question on Pet Health

[Guest guest]

(Moderator's Note- Please rephrase to something like- where should I research to

find IBS information for dogs?- This makes it clear that we are not supposed to

recommend, prescribe or treat.)

 

What natural medicine can a dog use for irritable bowel syndrome (IBS)? My

friends dog was diagnosed with IBS & she does not want to give her dog a

prescription drug.

 

Diane

[Guest guest]

Diane-

 

I feed three Airedales RAW diet, I have heard that it helps IBD dogs

because there are no grains. Two great websites with information are:

 

www.dogaware.com (Mary Straus's website)

 

www.b-naturals.com (Lew Olsen's newsletters)

 

or called K9nutrition

 

 

HTH-

Wendy

 

 

, Boonight wrote:

>

> (Moderator's Note- Please rephrase to something like- where should I

research to find IBS information for dogs?- This makes it clear that

we are not supposed to recommend, prescribe or treat.)

>

> What natural medicine can a dog use for irritable bowel syndrome

(IBS)? My friends dog was diagnosed with IBS & she does not want to

give her dog a prescription drug.

>

> Diane

>

[Guest guest]

hi diane---i have raised (until last 3 years) s & r and show gs for 15

years-- all through years i have waited for right pedigree matches and

finally got my female with everything perfect----this was my big shot at

perfection------IBD---PERINAL FISTULAS----AUTOIMMUNE PROBLEMS---- all results

of shots---- watch for fistulas -- big time problems-- goes along with

IBD sometimes i was on a site and wish i could remember it---- they knew

more than vets if fact i copied everything and took to vets and

from there they call university of michigan and gleup univ. in canada and

found out more and more dogs are coming down with IBD----PERINAL

FISTULAS-----most due to shots----look under for it

check out perinal fistulas in animal health

 

(Moderator's Note- Please rephrase to something like- where should I research

to find IBS information for dogs?- This makes it clear that we are not supposed

to recommend, prescribe or treat.)

[Guest guest]

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[Guest guest]

I'm sorry but I can't accept that fistulas are due to shots. In the third

world, women with fistula are usually those who have babies when they are 12

or 13 years old--too young to give birth safely because they are not

physically mature. I've never heard of this condition in dogs.

 

I'd like more information (although I do not breed dogs, I do rescue).

 

Linda Michaels

Gambier, Ohio

-

" Maryann " <wcall5108

 

Friday, December 01, 2006 3:59 PM

Re: Question on Pet Health

 

 

> hi diane---i have raised (until last 3 years) s & r and show gs for

> 15 years-- all through years i have waited for right pedigree

> matches and finally got my female with everything perfect----this

> was my big shot at perfection------IBD---PERINAL

> FISTULAS----AUTOIMMUNE PROBLEMS---- all results of shots---- watch

> for fistulas -- big time problems-- goes along with IBD sometimes

> i was on a site and wish i could remember it---- they knew more

> than vets if fact i copied everything and took to vets and

> from there they call university of michigan and gleup univ. in

> canada and found out more and more dogs are coming down with

> IBD----PERINAL FISTULAS-----most due to shots----look under

> groups for it check out perinal fistulas in animal health

>

> (Moderator's Note- Please rephrase to something like- where should I

> research to find IBS information for dogs?- This makes it clear that we

> are not supposed to recommend, prescribe or treat.)

>

[Guest guest]

I absolutely agree with this statement. The Parvo/distemper shots

inparticular are gut irritants. I stopped vaccinating all together

once I learned about vaccinations. The worst shot of all is rabies, I

am done with that to. I purchased a puppy a few months ago vaccine

free, RAW fed, no synthetics. He is free of any issues, and I can

tell the difference from having two that were vaccinated as puppies.

Vaccination is not an immune builder, it is a immune killer.

 

Here is a site to look over, it has the effects of vaccines to our

animals.

 

http://www.angelfire.com/biz/froghollerfilas/VaccBlanco.html

 

 

Wendy

 

 

, " Maryann "

<wcall5108 wrote:

>

------IBD---PERINAL FISTULAS----AUTOIMMUNE PROBLEMS---- all results

of shots---- watch for fistulas -- big time problems-- goes

along with IBD sometimes i was on a site and wish i could

remember it---- they knew more than vets >

> (Moderator's Note- Please rephrase to something like- where should

I research to find IBS information for dogs?- This makes it clear that

we are not supposed to recommend, prescribe or treat.)

>

[Guest guest]

when ANNIE had her tail amputated the vets didnt know either----folks

from all over had to drive miles to find a vet who knew

anything-----believe me its true there are thousands who have been on

that site and at time of my ANNIE we had to use some kind of meds

that people use for rejection of organs on the fistulas and we all

had papers that our dogs were not to have any more required shots of

anykind----furturemore at same time--- shots have caused problems in our

children too of course CDC will not tell you this the multiple dose

meds is the worst thing on humans and animals there is because of

preseratives --for instance---why have doctors stopped giving antibiotics

as much as they used too

-

Linda Michaels

Friday, December 01, 2006 9:30 PM

Re: Question on Pet Health

 

 

I'm sorry but I can't accept that fistulas are due to shots. In the third

world, women with fistula are usually those who have babies when they are 12

or 13 years old--too young to give birth safely because they are not

physically mature. I've never heard of this condition in dogs.

 

I'd like more information (although I do not breed dogs, I do rescue).

 

Linda Michaels

Gambier, Ohio

-

" Maryann " <wcall5108

Friday, December 01, 2006 3:59 PM

Re: Question on Pet Health

 

> hi diane---i have raised (until last 3 years) s & r and show gs for

> 15 years-- all through years i have waited for right pedigree

> matches and finally got my female with everything perfect----this

> was my big shot at perfection------IBD---PERINAL

> FISTULAS----AUTOIMMUNE PROBLEMS---- all results of shots---- watch

> for fistulas -- big time problems-- goes along with IBD sometimes

> i was on a site and wish i could remember it---- they knew more

> than vets if fact i copied everything and took to vets and

> from there they call university of michigan and gleup univ. in

> canada and found out more and more dogs are coming down with

> IBD----PERINAL FISTULAS-----most due to shots----look under

> groups for it check out perinal fistulas in animal health

>

> (Moderator's Note- Please rephrase to something like- where should I

> research to find IBS information for dogs?- This makes it clear that we

> are not supposed to recommend, prescribe or treat.)

>

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

check out pf-l groups---you ll find out real quick what the shots

can do----the raw diet is the best for this condition-----the IBD

sets off the perinal fistulas my main vet thought hemorroids---on to

one 30 miles away and amputation no go there we doctored her for

3 straight years every day till she went into remission-------colloidal

silver did that one-----i think we should all check out the shots we

give our animals and above all our babies-----tell me -- why does a

new born need a mandatory hep b shot?????-----they dont -- my

granddaughter had twins 3 years ago and one baby wound up flown to

best natel unit around cause of that and then the first set of

shots coma thank GOD she came out but she didnt move for 2

months----do you think hospital said it was shots NO but they tell you

at time of shots to watch for 12-24 hours-----we dont take shots at

all

-

Linda Michaels

Friday, December 01, 2006 9:30 PM

Re: Question on Pet Health

 

 

I'm sorry but I can't accept that fistulas are due to shots. In the third

world, women with fistula are usually those who have babies when they are 12

or 13 years old--too young to give birth safely because they are not

physically mature. I've never heard of this condition in dogs.

 

I'd like more information (although I do not breed dogs, I do rescue).

 

Linda Michaels

Gambier, Ohio

-

" Maryann " <wcall5108

Friday, December 01, 2006 3:59 PM

Re: Question on Pet Health

 

> hi diane---i have raised (until last 3 years) s & r and show gs for

> 15 years-- all through years i have waited for right pedigree

> matches and finally got my female with everything perfect----this

> was my big shot at perfection------IBD---PERINAL

> FISTULAS----AUTOIMMUNE PROBLEMS---- all results of shots---- watch

> for fistulas -- big time problems-- goes along with IBD sometimes

> i was on a site and wish i could remember it---- they knew more

> than vets if fact i copied everything and took to vets and

> from there they call university of michigan and gleup univ. in

> canada and found out more and more dogs are coming down with

> IBD----PERINAL FISTULAS-----most due to shots----look under

> groups for it check out perinal fistulas in animal health

>

> (Moderator's Note- Please rephrase to something like- where should I

> research to find IBS information for dogs?- This makes it clear that we

> are not supposed to recommend, prescribe or treat.)

>

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

--Hi Diane,

www.shirleyswellnesscafe.com is a great site to go to and research

holistic pet health.

good for your friend for not wanting to give her dog any poisonous

prescription drugs!

Any drug or vaccine given to an animal is a step in the wrong direction!

Lynn

>

>

>

> What natural medicine can a dog use for irritable bowel syndrome

(IBS)? My friends dog was diagnosed with IBS & she does not want to

give her dog a prescription drug.

>

> Diane

>

[Guest guest]

A bit of information, as I bred dogs for over 30 years, and I fed them as near

to nature as possible. Everything was raw, meat, raw cereal feeds (not fed

along with meat, as they go through the system at different rates), no milk,

plain water, no cooked foods at all. I fed raw vegetables.

 

For those that do not know, a dog's system is different from a humans.

Chocolate treats are dangerous, cakes, etc. are too. A dog has a very strong

acidic system which can digest putrified meat and not make them ill. In the

wild they would hunt, and kill, to survive. Their systems wouldnt get

overloaded, and one of the first things they would eat would be the stomach

contents, (usually from grass fed animals, ie. cereals,). By giving tinned

meats, cooked cereals, you are giving them semi-digested foods, and consequently

their systems are reacting, hence eating grass, making themselves sick, and foul

breath, faeces, etc.

 

Usually they would eat their fill of the meat and bury the rest for another

time.

 

Overfeeding doesnt work, and its a fallacy that raw food makes them savage.

In all of those years, I never had a working dog, whether gundog, GSD, Dobe, or

Rottie that was savage.

They were all 100% with children and knew the difference when working. Not

one was ever savage or bit anyone. They " held " their captive, didnt bite.

 

Tinned foods contain mostly water and offal, which isnt feeding however much

you feed. It also harbours worms.

 

Im not trying to stop people feeding tins, or cooked cereals, just trying to

explain HOW a dog should be fed for optimum health.

 

There are lots of sites where information can be learned. Would you like to

live on meat, and meat only every day?

 

My dogs would go to a show, be well placed if they didnt win and go out and

work all of the next day/week, whatever. They were all greatly loved, and

respected, and they respected me and mine.

 

 

Maggie Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.....

[Guest guest]

Mod. Note: Please take these discussions to one of the animal groups. That is

what they are for.

 

 

 

 

I have fed a raw, prey based/ prey modeled diet to over 80 cats of

various health conditions and ages, and 1 Akita show dog (raised raw

since 9 weeks of age).

 

Here are links that I reccomend:

 

www.rawfed.com

www.rawmeatybones.com

www.rawlearning.com

www.rawfeddogs.net

www.pets.rawfeeding

www.pets.SeniorRawFeeding

 

And for good measure:

www.pets.TruthAboutVaccines

 

 

Best,

Michelle

www.petfinder.com/shelters/CA1126.html