Guest guest Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 Hi Tony and , Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen, or there is a natural product to replace it ? I've read about the risks of Tamoxifen and I think it's very scaring. Thist is why I'm looking for something natural to replace it. My sister with HER2+ ER+/PR+ breats cancer, is taking 100mg of Iodoral, besides oleander, omega-3 and other things in the protocol. Is 100mg of Iodoral enough ? Thank you in advance for your replies. Brindusa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 Hi Brindusa,Oleander would be the natural alternative to tamoxifen and any other type of chemo. The rest of the suggestions on the protocol, including iodine are also very important. Iodoral is Lugol's in tablet form. I believe that she can go up to 300 mg daily. However, make sure to increase slowly.My Best,brindusa <brindusasburleaTo: oleander soup Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 7:21:25 PM Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen ? Hi Tony and , Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen, or there is a natural product to replace it ? I've read about the risks of Tamoxifen and I think it's very scaring. Thist is why I'm looking for something natural to replace it. My sister with HER2+ ER+/PR+ breats cancer, is taking 100mg of Iodoral, besides oleander, omega-3 and other things in the protocol. Is 100mg of Iodoral enough ? Thank you in advance for your replies. Brindusa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 Thanks a lot, . oleander soup From: luellamay129Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 17:52:23 -0700Re: Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen ? Hi Brindusa,Oleander would be the natural alternative to tamoxifen and any other type of chemo. The rest of the suggestions on the protocol, including iodine are also very important. Iodoral is Lugol's in tablet form. I believe that she can go up to 300 mg daily. However, make sure to increase slowly.My Best, brindusa <brindusasburlea (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>oleander soup Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 7:21:25 PM Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen ? Hi Tony and ,Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen, or there is a natural product to replace it ? I've read about the risks of Tamoxifen and I think it's very scaring. Thist is why I'm looking for something natural to replace it.My sister with HER2+ ER+/PR+ breats cancer, is taking 100mg of Iodoral, besides oleander, omega-3 and other things in the protocol. Is 100mg of Iodoral enough ? Thank you in advance for your replies.Brindusa Gardez le contact. Obtenez la version mobile de Messenger ici Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 How is Oleander able to replace the effects of Tamoxifen? I thought you would eat more brassica veggies to mimic the effects of Tamoxifen? As they are high in IC3? Broccoli sprouts are 50 times higher in sulforaphane than broccoli alone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SulforaphaneLouise--- On Sat, 5/1/10, Brindusa Sburlea <brindusasburlea wrote:Brindusa Sburlea <brindusasburleaRE: Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen ?oleander soup Received: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 7:05 PM Thanks a lot, . oleander soupluellamay129@ Sat, 1 May 2010 17:52:23 -0700Re: Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen ? Hi Brindusa,Oleander would be the natural alternative to tamoxifen and any other type of chemo. The rest of the suggestions on the protocol, including iodine are also very important. Iodoral is Lugol's in tablet form. I believe that she can go up to 300 mg daily. However, make sure to increase slowly.My Best, brindusa <brindusasburlea@ hotmail.com>oleander soupSat, May 1, 2010 7:21:25 PM Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen ? Hi Tony and ,Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen, or there is a natural product to replace it ? I've read about the risks of Tamoxifen and I think it's very scaring. Thist is why I'm looking for something natural to replace it.My sister with HER2+ ER+/PR+ breats cancer, is taking 100mg of Iodoral, besides oleander, omega-3 and other things in the protocol. Is 100mg of Iodoral enough ? Thank you in advance for your replies.Brindusa Gardez le contact. Obtenez la version mobile de Messenger ici Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 Oleander has very strong anti-cancer and immune strengthening properties. it has been found to have six times the immune stimulating activity compared to many of the immune stimulators known to man. And it is through a weakened immune system that cancer gains entry into our bodies. This is not to mean that we should not support oleander with other supplements and, of course, a healthy anti-cancer diet. That is why Tony and I are so adamant in encouraging everyone to follow A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol in its entirety.My Best,MissNoName <missnoname37oleander soup Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 8:32:30 PMRE: Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen ? How is Oleander able to replace the effects of Tamoxifen? I thought you would eat more brassica veggies to mimic the effects of Tamoxifen? As they are high in IC3? Broccoli sprouts are 50 times higher in sulforaphane than broccoli alone: http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ SulforaphaneLouise Gardez le contact. Obtenez la version mobile de Messenger ici Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010  Hi , I never heard that Oleander was similar to Tamoxifen.....Oleander is an estrogen blocker also? Thank you my dear! Tammatha - May oleander soup Saturday, May 01, 2010 5:52 PM Re: Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen ? Hi Brindusa,Oleander would be the natural alternative to tamoxifen and any other type of chemo. The rest of the suggestions on the protocol, including iodine are also very important. Iodoral is Lugol's in tablet form. I believe that she can go up to 300 mg daily. However, make sure to increase slowly.My Best, brindusa <brindusasburlea (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>oleander soup Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 7:21:25 PM Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen ? Hi Tony and ,Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen, or there is a natural product to replace it ? I've read about the risks of Tamoxifen and I think it's very scaring. Thist is why I'm looking for something natural to replace it.My sister with HER2+ ER+/PR+ breats cancer, is taking 100mg of Iodoral, besides oleander, omega-3 and other things in the protocol. Is 100mg of Iodoral enough ? Thank you in advance for your replies.Brindusa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 Hi Tammatha,There goes my wording again. I didn't mean to say that it was similar in the way it works. It is normally the best alternative to any chemo. Of course, supported with the proper diet, supplements, and lifestyle. Oleander is comparable to chemo in that it attacks tumors and cancer cells, but in a non-destructive manner. It induces cell death via apoptosis and autophagy, and prevents cancer cells from multiplying.Hugs,Tammatha Brown <tammathabrownoleander soup Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 11:24:12 PMRe: Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen ?  Hi , I never heard that Oleander was similar to Tamoxifen... ..Oleander is an estrogen blocker also? Thank you my dear! Tammatha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 I made the same mistake earlier. I should have said that oleander is like tamoxifen in that it results in cancer cell death. Tamoxifen does not actually kill cancer cells, but it does result in their deaths. On the other hand, tamoxifen also may lead to the spread and re-introduction of cancers on down the line, as well as the introduction of other forms of cancer. In my very strong opinion, anyone who has used Tamoxifen and appears to be cancer free should take precautions against the return of cancer, including preventive doses of oleander. oleander soup , "Tammatha Brown" <tammathabrown wrote:>> Hi ,> I never heard that Oleander was similar to Tamoxifen.....Oleander is an estrogen blocker also?> > Thank you my dear!> > Tammatha> > - > May > oleander soup > Saturday, May 01, 2010 5:52 PM> Re: Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen ?> > > > > Hi Brindusa,> > Oleander would be the natural alternative to tamoxifen and any other type of chemo. The rest of the suggestions on the protocol, including iodine are also very important. Iodoral is Lugol's in tablet form. I believe that she can go up to 300 mg daily. However, make sure to increase slowly.> > My Best,> > > > > > > > brindusa brindusasburlea oleander soup > Sat, May 1, 2010 7:21:25 PM> Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen ?> > > Hi Tony and ,> > Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen, or there is a natural product to replace it ? I've read about the risks of Tamoxifen and I think it's very scaring. Thist is why I'm looking for something natural to replace it.> > My sister with HER2+ ER+/PR+ breats cancer, is taking 100mg of Iodoral, besides oleander, omega-3 and other things in the protocol. Is 100mg of Iodoral enough ? > > Thank you in advance for your replies.> > Brindusa> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010  - Tammatha Brown oleander soup Saturday, May 01, 2010 9:24 PM Re: Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen ?  Hi , I never heard that Oleander was similar to Tamoxifen.....Oleander is an estrogen blocker also? Thank you my dear! Tammatha - May oleander soup Saturday, May 01, 2010 5:52 PM Re: Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen ? Hi Brindusa,Oleander would be the natural alternative to tamoxifen and any other type of chemo. The rest of the suggestions on the protocol, including iodine are also very important. Iodoral is Lugol's in tablet form. I believe that she can go up to 300 mg daily. However, make sure to increase slowly.My Best, brindusa <brindusasburlea (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>oleander soup Sent: Sat, May 1, 2010 7:21:25 PM Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen ? Hi Tony and ,Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen, or there is a natural product to replace it ? I've read about the risks of Tamoxifen and I think it's very scaring. Thist is why I'm looking for something natural to replace it.My sister with HER2+ ER+/PR+ breats cancer, is taking 100mg of Iodoral, besides oleander, omega-3 and other things in the protocol. Is 100mg of Iodoral enough ? Thank you in advance for your replies.Brindusa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 Oh alright well that is what I thought, thanks for clearing that up Tony. My oncologist has prescribed Tamoxifen for me but I'm not taking it. I can't bring myself, it scares me. I'm lying to him and telling him I'm taking it, isn't that sad? We can't even be honest with these mainstream docs. My intregrative MD tells me not to take it. Tammatha - TonyI oleander soup Sunday, May 02, 2010 11:59 AM Re: Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen ? I made the same mistake earlier. I should have said that oleander is like tamoxifen in that it results in cancer cell death. Tamoxifen does not actually kill cancer cells, but it does result in their deaths. On the other hand, tamoxifen also may lead to the spread and re-introduction of cancers on down the line, as well as the introduction of other forms of cancer. In my very strong opinion, anyone who has used Tamoxifen and appears to be cancer free should take precautions against the return of cancer, including preventive doses of oleander. oleander soup , "Tammatha Brown" <tammathabrown wrote:>> Hi ,> I never heard that Oleander was similar to Tamoxifen.....Oleander is an estrogen blocker also?> > Thank you my dear!> > Tammatha> > - > May > oleander soup > Saturday, May 01, 2010 5:52 PM> Re: Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen ?> > > > > Hi Brindusa,> > Oleander would be the natural alternative to tamoxifen and any other type of chemo. The rest of the suggestions on the protocol, including iodine are also very important. Iodoral is Lugol's in tablet form. I believe that she can go up to 300 mg daily. However, make sure to increase slowly.> > My Best,> > > > > > > > brindusa brindusasburlea oleander soup > Sat, May 1, 2010 7:21:25 PM> Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen ?> > > Hi Tony and ,> > Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen, or there is a natural product to replace it ? I've read about the risks of Tamoxifen and I think it's very scaring. Thist is why I'm looking for something natural to replace it.> > My sister with HER2+ ER+/PR+ breats cancer, is taking 100mg of Iodoral, besides oleander, omega-3 and other things in the protocol. Is 100mg of Iodoral enough ? > > Thank you in advance for your replies.> > Brindusa> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 Yes Tammatha, you are so right. We are lying to doctors for the fear that they will stop monitoring you (blood tests, scans, etc.)... Brindusa oleander soup From: tammathabrownDate: Sun, 2 May 2010 16:38:42 -0700Re: Re: Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen ? Oh alright well that is what I thought, thanks for clearing that up Tony. My oncologist has prescribed Tamoxifen for me but I'm not taking it. I can't bring myself, it scares me. I'm lying to him and telling him I'm taking it, isn't that sad? We can't even be honest with these mainstream docs. My intregrative MD tells me not to take it. Tammatha - TonyI oleander soup Sunday, May 02, 2010 11:59 AM Re: Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen ? I made the same mistake earlier. I should have said that oleander is like tamoxifen in that it results in cancer cell death. Tamoxifen does not actually kill cancer cells, but it does result in their deaths. On the other hand, tamoxifen also may lead to the spread and re-introduction of cancers on down the line, as well as the introduction of other forms of cancer. In my very strong opinion, anyone who has used Tamoxifen and appears to be cancer free should take precautions against the return of cancer, including preventive doses of oleander. oleander soup , "Tammatha Brown" <tammathabrown wrote:>> Hi ,> I never heard that Oleander was similar to Tamoxifen.....Oleander is an estrogen blocker also?> > Thank you my dear!> > Tammatha> > - > May > oleander soup > Saturday, May 01, 2010 5:52 PM> Re: Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen ?> > > > > Hi Brindusa,> > Oleander would be the natural alternative to tamoxifen and any other type of chemo. The rest of the suggestions on the protocol, including iodine are also very important. Iodoral is Lugol's in tablet form. I believe that she can go up to 300 mg daily. However, make sure to increase slowly.> > My Best,> > > > > > > > brindusa brindusasburlea oleander soup > Sat, May 1, 2010 7:21:25 PM> Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen ?> > > Hi Tony and ,> > Is iodine a natural alternative to tamoxifen, or there is a natural product to replace it ? I've read about the risks of Tamoxifen and I think it's very scaring. Thist is why I'm looking for something natural to replace it.> > My sister with HER2+ ER+/PR+ breats cancer, is taking 100mg of Iodoral, besides oleander, omega-3 and other things in the protocol. Is 100mg of Iodoral enough ? > > Thank you in advance for your replies.> > Brindusa> Messenger sur votre téléphone = MI sur la route Essayez-le maintenant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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