is herceptin compatible with oleander andomega-3 ?

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I would tell her to rethink the biopsy. She doesn't need it as she's already gotten the dx. Also, I think HER2 pos is more aggressive than HER2 neg. She needs to get on some sort of aggressive treatment to slow the train down. For now, a strict cancer diet should be followed until she decides on her course of treatment.LouiseSent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. Brindusa Sburlea <brindusasburleaThu, 29 Apr 2010 09:27:15 -0300<oleander soup >RE: is herceptin compatible with oleander andomega-3 ? Hello Louise, Yes, she's her2+. Her doctor wants to do all the tests (scans, biopsy) to see is she has bone mets. Thank you.Brindusa oleander soup From: missnoname37 (AT) (DOT) caDate: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 03:20:19 +0000Re: is herceptin compatible with oleander and omega-3 ? I have breast cancer bone mets and would not stop supplements. I am not getting chemo or rad. She must be HER2 positive to be taking Herceptin? If she's not, I'm certain it is not effective. Is her doctor going to try and diagnose the bone mets so he/she can start treating her with biphosphonates?LouiseSent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell."brindusa" <brindusasburlea (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> Thu, 29 Apr 2010 03:11:47 -0000<oleander soup > is herceptin compatible with oleander and omega-3 ? Tony and ,Please , I need your advise. My sister diagnosed on january 2009 with her2+ breast cancer stage 3A, has now her platelets count at 27.000 wich is very low. She had chemo/radio and since january 2010 she's on herceptin with very strong side effects - all of them.Her doctor suspects a bone metastasis and asked to stop all natural supplements.She takes oleander capsules, iodine, omega-3 and cod liver oil.Do you think the cause could be just the herceptin? Should she change her protocol and renounce at some of the things above?Thank you very much.BrindusaAccès direct à Messenger depuis votre téléphone Plus de détails.

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Lluella, why would you advise her to stop the Herceptin. I think it has very favorable studies for this type of cancer. HER2 pos can be quite aggressive and Herceptin seems to slow it down. I'd look up these studies on Herceptin before I quit taking it.LouiseInvasive Ductal Carcinoma, stage 4, HER2 neg, ER/PR pos.Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. Brindusa Sburlea <brindusasburleaThu, 29 Apr 2010 08:50:38 -0300<oleander soup >RE: is herceptin compatible with oleander andomega-3 ? Thank you, . She's taking Rose Laurel OPC Plus 6 capsules a day. We"ll definitely stop the herceptin and implement all of the protocol. The only problem is that she doesnt have much discipline. Thanks again for your advise. Brindusa oleander soup From: luellamay129 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:39:46 -0700Re: is herceptin compatible with oleander and omega-3 ? Figures that a doctor would advise to stop all supplements and continue with mainstream methods. The platelets are low because of the chemo and radiation.I would in no way renounce any supplements or any part of the protocol. In fact, if she is not doing all of the protocol, I would implement all of it in full force and effect. If I were to renounce anything, it would be the herceptin.How much oleander is she taking? If she is taking Sutherlandia OPC, it needs to be 10 capsules a day, and if she is taking Rose Laurel OPC Plus she needs to take 8 capsules a day. These supplements, together with the protocol are not what is hurting her. It looks like the chemo and radiation have weakened her body and now is the time to do all you can naturally. Mainstream medicine is not going to work. My best to you Brindusa,brindusa <brindusasburlea (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>oleander soup Sent: Wed, April 28, 2010 10:11:47 PM is herceptin compatible with oleander and omega-3 ? Tony and ,Please , I need your advise. My sister diagnosed on january 2009 with her2+ breast cancer stage 3A, has now her platelets count at 27.000 wich is very low. She had chemo/radio and since january 2010 she's on herceptin with very strong side effects - all of them.Her doctor suspects a bone metastasis and asked to stop all natural supplements.She takes oleander capsules, iodine, omega-3 and cod liver oil.Do you think the cause could be just the herceptin? Should she change her protocol and renounce at some of the things above?Thank you very much.BrindusaLes vidéos qui font jaser! Résolution HD aussi offerte! Vidéo MSN.ca

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Louise -

Maybe I can answer your question. First of all, we never advise anyone to stop something that is working, no matter how evil we believe chemo and radiation both are. And I believe that what was saying was that if she had to stop anything it would be the unnatural drugs that at best may prolong life a bit instead of natural supplements that might help save life.

However, I must make that observation that when someone has been on chemo for over a year now and the cancer appears to be spreading, that is not what I call working. And, our concern is that the longer a person takes chemo the more damage that is inflicted and poorer the odds are that nature can save them.

At best, chemo may slow down some cancers and it virtually never results in complete and lasting remission for cancers that have spread past their primary site. Chemo NEVER cures cancer. Chemo may in some instances eliminate the detectable signs of cancer, but it never addresses or corrects the root causes. People who use chemo and go on to live cancer free lives only do so because their natural immune system was able to effect a cure, or else there was some kind of spontaneous remission (but I don't believe those happen without help from the natural body).

Long term use of chemo also inflicts damage on the body and major organs and further impairs an immune system that the cancer was able to defeat in the first place in order to gain a foothold. In most instances, people who take chemo die from the effects of the chemo rather than from their cancers. Liver failure and heart failure are two of the most common causes of death. In the instance of herceptin, congestive heart failure is listed as the top risk - and it also lists possibly fatal injection reaction, lung problems and lowered white blood cell counts, to name a few.

From the Minnesota Wellness Directory:

Our original information on Herceptin showed no side effects. Wow, was that wrong! From Oncology World (http://www.oncologychannel.com/chemotherapy/medsideeffects.shtml) we found the following:

 

 

 

 

 

Herceptin (Trastuzumab; anti-HER 2 monoclonal antibody): administered intravenously. When given alone, side effects include diarrhea, chills, fevers, headache, dizziness, lowered blood pressure, and rash. Rare effects include lowered blood counts, pain and generalized feeling of unease. When given in combination with chemotherapy cardiotoxicity was significantly increased. Symptoms included the development of shortness of breath, edema, cough and decreased heart muscle function as measured by evaluation of ventricular function. It has been noted that the development of cardiotoxicity is highest in those individuals receiving Herceptin and chemotherapy- particularly cytoxan and adriamycin. Other effects seen in combination therapy include an increased risk of developing mild to moderate upper respiratory infections.

It seems the one thing that stands out as far as negative side effects is cardiovascular illness. Herceptin give you a 50% chance of fatal heart damage.

If taken with Adriamycin, your chances of heart damage are even greater.

After reviewing clinical studies on survival rates, it seems that this drug isn't as promising as we once thought.

I can find no studies whatsoever that indicate that the use of Herceptin could be expected to result in a lasting cure. Instead studies indicate that when a person is put on Herceptin, it may increase their average survival time at that point from less than 3 month for staying on chemo alone to over 4 months with use of the adjuvant Herceptin.

It appears pretty plain to me that the doctor who is recommending stopping any supplements is buying into the theory of starving out the cancer and killing it as much as possible with chemo. That was the same theory that Patrick Swayze bought into and he ended up tragically dying - not from his cancer, but from wasting disease.

Compare what happened with Swayze, who went from a robust 55 year old man to someone who looked like 90 year old plus death camp refugee in only 18 months to what happened with the father of one of our members at age 80 who decided to forego chemo and nourish his body and boost his immune system:

"A Tale of Two Pancreatic Cancer Patients - Patrick Swayze and an 80 Year Old Survivor"

/Swayze_versus_Survivor.htm

If I were this person, instead of considering dropping any supplements or looking up studies on herceptin (which were likely funded by the manufacturer - and we see what those kind of studies do when we look at the studies on Vioxx, Avandia, Fosamax, et al) - I would look at the side effects and the long term survival odds. Quite frankly I would do what I advise ALL cancer patients to do: As their oncologis point blank what the chances are of a complete cure.

Though oncologists typically talk about deceptive terms like "positive response rate" and such, when you back them into a corner and ask them bluntly whether or not you can expect to get completely rid of your cancer and go on to live a normal lifespan, they will admit that all they are doing is buying you time. And that time they buy, if any, often comes at a horrific price in terms of side effects and quality of life.

Once a doctor has admitted that mainstream medicine has given up on saving their life, I would think the patient might well consider looking towards nature offering them at least a chance of saving their life. I surely would. The real tragedy is that if a person were to opt for some of the best proven natural alternatives first, the odds are greater than 90% that they would be saved. Those odds are still good for most poeple even when mainstream treatments have failed, as they do in the large majority of instances, but they decrease the longer one stays with the mainstream treatments and the further those treatments damage them and the cancer continues to grow and spread.

Buying extra time is not what we are about here. Neither is any mainstream chemo or radiation (though again, we don't advise anyone to stop what is working). If we must buy time, we would rather buy the most time with the best quality of life. What we really seek to do is completely eliminate the cancer and have the person remain cancer free for a pretty normal lifespan. And maybe even have a longer than expected lifespan from continuing to do the healthy things they used to conquer their cancer.

Suggested Reading:

"Chemo Does Not Cure: Often It Inflicts Damage and Spreads Cancer"

http://www.naturalnews.com/027028_cancer_health_cells.html

"Hiding the Truth about Losing the War on Cancer"

http://tbyil.com/waroncancer.htm

All the best,

oleander soup , missnoname37 wrote:>> Lluella, why would you advise her to stop the Herceptin. I think it has very favorable studies for this type of cancer. HER2 pos can be quite aggressive and Herceptin seems to slow it down. I'd look up these studies on Herceptin before I quit taking it. > > Louise > Invasive Ductal Carcinoma, stage 4, HER2 neg, ER/PR pos. > Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. > Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. >

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Thanks for that! I did not realize Herceptin had such horrific side effects. I sent that msg way too quick and I knew that as soon as I hit the send button. I take Tamoxifen and am terrified of the side effects so keep it at 10 mg a day if I take any at all. LouiseSent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. "TonyI" Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:56:47 -0000<oleander soup > Re: is herceptin compatible with oleander andomega-3 ? Louise -Maybe I can answer your question. First of all, we never advise anyone to stop something that is working, no matter how evil we believe chemo and radiation both are. And I believe that what was saying was that if she had to stop anything it would be the unnatural drugs that at best may prolong life a bit instead of natural supplements that might help save life.However, I must make that observation that when someone has been on chemo for over a year now and the cancer appears to be spreading, that is not what I call working. And, our concern is that the longer a person takes chemo the more damage that is inflicted and poorer the odds are that nature can save them.At best, chemo may slow down some cancers and it virtually never results in complete and lasting remission for cancers that have spread past their primary site. Chemo NEVER cures cancer. Chemo may in some instances eliminate the detectable signs of cancer, but it never addresses or corrects the root causes. People who use chemo and go on to live cancer free lives only do so because their natural immune system was able to effect a cure, or else there was some kind of spontaneous remission (but I don't believe those happen without help from the natural body). Long term use of chemo also inflicts damage on the body and major organs and further impairs an immune system that the cancer was able to defeat in the first place in order to gain a foothold. In most instances, people who take chemo die from the effects of the chemo rather than from their cancers. Liver failure and heart failure are two of the most common causes of death. In the instance of herceptin, congestive heart failure is listed as the top risk - and it also lists possibly fatal injection reaction, lung problems and lowered white blood cell counts, to name a few.From the Minnesota Wellness Directory:Our original information on Herceptin showed no side effects. Wow, was that wrong! From Oncology World (http://www.oncologychannel.com/chemotherapy/medsideeffects.shtml) we found the following: Herceptin (Trastuzumab; anti-HER 2 monoclonal antibody): administered intravenously. When given alone, side effects include diarrhea, chills, fevers, headache, dizziness, lowered blood pressure, and rash. Rare effects include lowered blood counts, pain and generalized feeling of unease. When given in combination with chemotherapy cardiotoxicity was significantly increased. Symptoms included the development of shortness of breath, edema, cough and decreased heart muscle function as measured by evaluation of ventricular function. It has been noted that the development of cardiotoxicity is highest in those individuals receiving Herceptin and chemotherapy- particularly cytoxan and adriamycin. Other effects seen in combination therapy include an increased risk of developing mild to moderate upper respiratory infections.It seems the one thing that stands out as far as negative side effects is cardiovascular illness. Herceptin give you a 50% chance of fatal heart damage. If taken with Adriamycin, your chances of heart damage are even greater. After reviewing clinical studies on survival rates, it seems that this drug isn't as promising as we once thought. I can find no studies whatsoever that indicate that the use of Herceptin could be expected to result in a lasting cure. Instead studies indicate that when a person is put on Herceptin, it may increase their average survival time at that point from less than 3 month for staying on chemo alone to over 4 months with use of the adjuvant Herceptin.It appears pretty plain to me that the doctor who is recommending stopping any supplements is buying into the theory of starving out the cancer and killing it as much as possible with chemo. That was the same theory that Patrick Swayze bought into and he ended up tragically dying - not from his cancer, but from wasting disease.Compare what happened with Swayze, who went from a robust 55 year old man to someone who looked like 90 year old plus death camp refugee in only 18 months to what happened with the father of one of our members at age 80 who decided to forego chemo and nourish his body and boost his immune system:"A Tale of Two Pancreatic Cancer Patients - Patrick Swayze and an 80 Year Old Survivor"/Swayze_versus_Survivor.htmIf I were this person, instead of considering dropping any supplements or looking up studies on herceptin (which were likely funded by the manufacturer - and we see what those kind of studies do when we look at the studies on Vioxx, Avandia, Fosamax, et al) - I would look at the side effects and the long term survival odds. Quite frankly I would do what I advise ALL cancer patients to do: As their oncologis point blank what the chances are of a complete cure.Though oncologists typically talk about deceptive terms like "positive response rate" and such, when you back them into a corner and ask them bluntly whether or not you can expect to get completely rid of your cancer and go on to live a normal lifespan, they will admit that all they are doing is buying you time. And that time they buy, if any, often comes at a horrific price in terms of side effects and quality of life.Once a doctor has admitted that mainstream medicine has given up on saving their life, I would think the patient might well consider looking towards nature offering them at least a chance of saving their life. I surely would. The real tragedy is that if a person were to opt for some of the best proven natural alternatives first, the odds are greater than 90% that they would be saved. Those odds are still good for most poeple even when mainstream treatments have failed, as they do in the large majority of instances, but they decrease the longer one stays with the mainstream treatments and the further those treatments damage them and the cancer continues to grow and spread.Buying extra time is not what we are about here. Neither is any mainstream chemo or radiation (though again, we don't advise anyone to stop what is working). If we must buy time, we would rather buy the most time with the best quality of life. What we really seek to do is completely eliminate the cancer and have the person remain cancer free for a pretty normal lifespan. And maybe even have a longer than expected lifespan from continuing to do the healthy things they used to conquer their cancer.Suggested Reading:"Chemo Does Not Cure: Often It Inflicts Damage and Spreads Cancer"http://www.naturalnews.com/027028_cancer_health_cells.html"Hiding the Truth about Losing the War on Cancer"http://tbyil.com/waroncancer.htmAll the best,Tonyoleander soup , missnoname37 wrote:>> Lluella, why would you advise her to stop the Herceptin. I think it has very favorable studies for this type of cancer. HER2 pos can be quite aggressive and Herceptin seems to slow it down. I'd look up these studies on Herceptin before I quit taking it. > > Louise > Invasive Ductal Carcinoma, stage 4, HER2 neg, ER/PR pos. > Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. > Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. >

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Louise,

 

Actually HER2+ means an agressive cancer. My sister has not been diagnosed with bone mets yet and I pray to God it is not that. It's just her oncolog who suspects it and refusing to believe that this condition could be a side effect of herceptin. We'll have the result of her bone scintigraphy next week and, of course, we want to avoid the biopsy.

 

Thank you for your advise.

 

Brindusa

 

 

oleander soup From: missnoname37Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:36:44 +0000Re: is herceptin compatible with oleander andomega-3 ?

 

 

I would tell her to rethink the biopsy. She doesn't need it as she's already gotten the dx. Also, I think HER2 pos is more aggressive than HER2 neg. She needs to get on some sort of aggressive treatment to slow the train down. For now, a strict cancer diet should be followed until she decides on her course of treatment.Louise

Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell.

 

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Thu, 29 Apr 2010 09:27:15 -0300

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RE: is herceptin compatible with oleander and omega-3 ?

Hello Louise, Yes, she's her2+. Her doctor wants to do all the tests (scans, biopsy) to see is she has bone mets. Thank you.Brindusa

 

oleander soup From: missnoname37 (AT) (DOT) caDate: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 03:20:19 +0000Re: is herceptin compatible with oleander and omega-3 ?

 

I have breast cancer bone mets and would not stop supplements. I am not getting chemo or rad. She must be HER2 positive to be taking Herceptin? If she's not, I'm certain it is not effective. Is her doctor going to try and diagnose the bone mets so he/she can start treating her with biphosphonates?Louise Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell.

 

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Thu, 29 Apr 2010 03:11:47 -0000

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is herceptin compatible with oleander and omega-3 ?

Tony and ,Please , I need your advise. My sister diagnosed on january 2009 with her2+ breast cancer stage 3A, has now her platelets count at 27.000 wich is very low. She had chemo/radio and since january 2010 she's on herceptin with very strong side effects - all of them.Her doctor suspects a bone metastasis and asked to stop all natural supplements.She takes oleander capsules, iodine, omega-3 and cod liver oil.Do you think the cause could be just the herceptin? Should she change her protocol and renounce at some of the things above?Thank you very much.Brindusa

 

 

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Thank you , Tony and Louise.

 

I totally agree with Tony and I'm persuaded that are natural terapies that can work better and safer than chemo/radioation, herceptin and all the conventional treatments. One has to be commited to his health and healing in order to succeed.

 

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oleander soup From: missnoname37Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:10:51 +0000Re: Re: is herceptin compatible with oleander andomega-3 ?

 

 

Thanks for that! I did not realize Herceptin had such horrific side effects. I sent that msg way too quick and I knew that as soon as I hit the send button. I take Tamoxifen and am terrified of the side effects so keep it at 10 mg a day if I take any at all. Louise

Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell.

 

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Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:56:47 -0000

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Re: is herceptin compatible with oleander andomega-3 ?

Louise -

Maybe I can answer your question. First of all, we never advise anyone to stop something that is working, no matter how evil we believe chemo and radiation both are. And I believe that what was saying was that if she had to stop anything it would be the unnatural drugs that at best may prolong life a bit instead of natural supplements that might help save life.

However, I must make that observation that when someone has been on chemo for over a year now and the cancer appears to be spreading, that is not what I call working. And, our concern is that the longer a person takes chemo the more damage that is inflicted and poorer the odds are that nature can save them.

At best, chemo may slow down some cancers and it virtually never results in complete and lasting remission for cancers that have spread past their primary site. Chemo NEVER cures cancer. Chemo may in some instances eliminate the detectable signs of cancer, but it never addresses or corrects the root causes. People who use chemo and go on to live cancer free lives only do so because their natural immune system was able to effect a cure, or else there was some kind of spontaneous remission (but I don't believe those happen without help from the natural body).

Long term use of chemo also inflicts damage on the body and major organs and further impairs an immune system that the cancer was able to defeat in the first place in order to gain a foothold. In most instances, people who take chemo die from the effects of the chemo rather than from their cancers. Liver failure and heart failure are two of the most common causes of death. In the instance of herceptin, congestive heart failure is listed as the top risk - and it also lists possibly fatal injection reaction, lung problems and lowered white blood cell counts, to name a few.

From the Minnesota Wellness Directory:

Our original information on Herceptin showed no side effects. Wow, was that wrong! From Oncology World (http://www.oncologychannel.com/chemotherapy/medsideeffects.shtml) we found the following:

 

 

 

 

 

Herceptin (Trastuzumab; anti-HER 2 monoclonal antibody): administered intravenously. When given alone, side effects include diarrhea, chills, fevers, headache, dizziness, lowered blood pressure, and rash. Rare effects include lowered blood counts, pain and generalized feeling of unease. When given in combination with chemotherapy cardiotoxicity was significantly increased. Symptoms included the development of shortness of breath, edema, cough and decreased heart muscle function as measured by evaluation of ventricular function. It has been noted that the development of cardiotoxicity is highest in those individuals receiving Herceptin and chemotherapy- particularly cytoxan and adriamycin. Other effects seen in combination therapy include an increased risk of developing mild to moderate upper respiratory infections.

It seems the one thing that stands out as far as negative side effects is cardiovascular illness. Herceptin give you a 50% chance of fatal heart damage.

If taken with Adriamycin, your chances of heart damage are even greater.

After reviewing clinical studies on survival rates, it seems that this drug isn't as promising as we once thought.

I can find no studies whatsoever that indicate that the use of Herceptin could be expected to result in a lasting cure. Instead studies indicate that when a person is put on Herceptin, it may increase their average survival time at that point from less than 3 month for staying on chemo alone to over 4 months with use of the adjuvant Herceptin.

It appears pretty plain to me that the doctor who is recommending stopping any supplements is buying into the theory of starving out the cancer and killing it as much as possible with chemo. That was the same theory that Patrick Swayze bought into and he ended up tragically dying - not from his cancer, but from wasting disease.

Compare what happened with Swayze, who went from a robust 55 year old man to someone who looked like 90 year old plus death camp refugee in only 18 months to what happened with the father of one of our members at age 80 who decided to forego chemo and nourish his body and boost his immune system:

"A Tale of Two Pancreatic Cancer Patients - Patrick Swayze and an 80 Year Old Survivor"

/Swayze_versus_Survivor.htm

If I were this person, instead of considering dropping any supplements or looking up studies on herceptin (which were likely funded by the manufacturer - and we see what those kind of studies do when we look at the studies on Vioxx, Avandia, Fosamax, et al) - I would look at the side effects and the long term survival odds. Quite frankly I would do what I advise ALL cancer patients to do: As their oncologis point blank what the chances are of a complete cure.

Though oncologists typically talk about deceptive terms like "positive response rate" and such, when you back them into a corner and ask them bluntly whether or not you can expect to get completely rid of your cancer and go on to live a normal lifespan, they will admit that all they are doing is buying you time. And that time they buy, if any, often comes at a horrific price in terms of side effects and quality of life.

Once a doctor has admitted that mainstream medicine has given up on saving their life, I would think the patient might well consider looking towards nature offering them at least a chance of saving their life. I surely would. The real tragedy is that if a person were to opt for some of the best proven natural alternatives first, the odds are greater than 90% that they would be saved. Those odds are still good for most poeple even when mainstream treatments have failed, as they do in the large majority of instances, but they decrease the longer one stays with the mainstream treatments and the further those treatments damage them and the cancer continues to grow and spread.

Buying extra time is not what we are about here. Neither is any mainstream chemo or radiation (though again, we don't advise anyone to stop what is working). If we must buy time, we would rather buy the most time with the best quality of life. What we really seek to do is completely eliminate the cancer and have the person remain cancer free for a pretty normal lifespan. And maybe even have a longer than expected lifespan from continuing to do the healthy things they used to conquer their cancer.

Suggested Reading:

"Chemo Does Not Cure: Often It Inflicts Damage and Spreads Cancer"

http://www.naturalnews.com/027028_cancer_health_cells.html

"Hiding the Truth about Losing the War on Cancer"

http://tbyil.com/waroncancer.htm

All the best,

oleander soup , missnoname37 wrote:>> Lluella, why would you advise her to stop the Herceptin. I think it has very favorable studies for this type of cancer. HER2 pos can be quite aggressive and Herceptin seems to slow it down. I'd look up these studies on Herceptin before I quit taking it. > > Louise > Invasive Ductal Carcinoma, stage 4, HER2 neg, ER/PR pos. > Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. > Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. >

 

 

 

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