please advise: update after adding more iodine

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Dear Ted, , and all,

 

 

I began to follow the advices recieved but for most I have to wait for my order at utopia to be delivered from US..execpt for geranium tea and increasing lugol ( I didn't want to increase too much untill I recieve selenium) but yet I added 2 drops in my fruit juice with vitamineC in the morning, and then I also had the idea to pain my tumor site on the breast.

 

When I began painting on solar chakra I already mentionned Iexperienced slightly runny nose, hearing like if my ears were stuffy, gum-teeth-jaw pain (not sure if it was related with iodine) and was very tired. When I added 2 drops orally I seldom had same effects, not always, and not worse. I thought I would raise the dose as soon as I get the selenium.

I've been painting my chakra for more than a month now without any problem on my skin, but after 2 weeks that I've been painting my breast on tumor site, here is what happen's happening:

 

After 1 week there was a slight swelling of the lump that I supposed was detox, healing...but after the 2nd week the lump is doubling in size everyday, the breast is itching so much, also the tumor site is very hard and the skin over is weird (feels like if it were covered by a strong varnish) red brunish and covered with lots of little pimples and on the "normal skin" on the breast several pimples that itch too.

I stopped using lugol on my skin, I bathed with hydogen peroxyd, it didn't help, I used aloe vera to calm down the iching (it did but had to it frequently), and also tried to put ozonated olive oil on since yesterday afternoon, maybe this helped because the itching is better (less).

I'm in panic because it is swollen and itchy so I thought first the tumor was developing so quickly.

Now trying to think positively I imagine it could be a detox reaction.

But also the small pimples look like an allergy and this morning I discovered that the place I used to paint on my solar chakra has lot of small red pimples too (but it is not itchy).

 

I'm still taking lugo orally but I wonder if it's Ok or not because of my skin reaction?

I suppose I should stop lugol on the skin, and absolutely on the tumor site, definitively or just a pause?

Do you have any suggestion?

 

At the moment, I'm taking daily:

-1budwig with 2 teaspoon of goat cottage cheese + 1 flaxseed oil (will raise again but I'm out of oil waiting for my order to be delivered)

-3 times 2500mg of vitamin C (1/2 ascorbate, 1/2ALA)

-3 caps of OPC plus

-lugol once 2 drops (painting stopped) = 12 mg in one sirving

-once a day 25drops of H2O2 in a big amount as an enema

- drink all day long tea of geranium "herbe à robert"

waiting for my order to reintroduice oxygen in caps form, and add IP6-inositol,serrapeptase, selenium, and I wanted to increase iodine orally but that' the question?

 

By the way I have only 2 caps OPC+ left, is there any "compensation" I can do if i don't recieve my order tomorrow ?

 

thanks

Sylviane

 

 

 

-

TED SANFORD

oleander soup

Monday, March 15, 2010 11:47 PM

Re: please advise

 

 

 

 

You can also check with iodine , but I would suggest taking at least an equivalent of 12mg lugols iodine orally/day. Some with cancer, especially breast cancer, go to 50 and 100mgs/day.

Ted--- On Mon, 3/15/10, sylviane <sissyv (AT) wanadoo (DOT) fr> wrote:

sylviane <sissyv (AT) wanadoo (DOT) fr> please adviseoleander soup Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 2:53 PM

 

Hello all,

I hope some will be able to give me an advice or a helpful feedback as I'm anxious how to control my breast tumor.

I suppose the first thing is to introduce the history inshort:

Backgroung: When I was younger (around 30) I had a depression treated by official medecine (so you can imagine all the drugs I swallowed at this time! since then I have pb to control my weigth) but I finally resolved with psychotherapy. Now I'm 43.

Actual problem: I've been diagnosed a breast tumor 7 years ago. First doctor said it was a "mastose" (not sure in english) due to stress. Radiologist said a tumor to be cut out urgently and analysed to check if cancerous. I didn't go to any doctor with this mamography results and instead consulted a naturopath recomanded by a friend of mine because she has been succesful with lot of serious deseases...

She checked with a group of radionicians and they say it was not a cancer and should not be remove, at least not at the moment that my general health was not good.

First protocol really helped me with to be in better shape and almost rid me of sinusitis and cystitis that I had so often!

Then she kept on changing the treatments as my breast were sometime better sometimes worse but through monthes and years it has been worse: at the beginning I could just feel sth hard and hardly see it in the miror, later the breast was firmer, and after I noticed my breast was smaller and I could see sth and feel like pea. Now on my breast near the nipple I can see like a bean (sometimes it is red) and the skin immediately around is slightly dimpled, and at the limit of the dimpled skin, there is a hollow. (very difficult to describe specially that english is not may mother thongue!)

Some symptoms make me fear IBC and untill now neither the naturopath nor myself, seeking on the internet since september, have improve...

 

I was about to decide to see a doctor (the only one near my place recommanded by beljanski organization, with the hope he will use as much as he can non agressive therapy but also I was prepare to go under whatever he says even chemo/radio/ surgery), when I read about hydrogen peroxyde. I decided to do a last try with this protocol. Since october I raised until 3 times 25 drops and my breast was better but each time I reduce H2O2, my breast becomes painful, firm, the "bean" turns red, the hollow deeper... I also try to add an enema with H2O2 every day and it helps. So H2O2 helps but doesn't heal...

At the end of january I was anxious again when I discovered some natural powerful therapies in Cancer and chose the oleander protocol. I began the budwig cream for breakfast (from 1 flax oil tablespoon, I raised until 3, I feel i couldn't eat more). Then on the first week of febrary I did the liver cleanse, the only point is that I mistook grape with grapefruit so I mixed grape juice with oil last thing before going to bed: I had diarrhea in the evening while taking epsom salt, I slept fine and continue diarrhea the other day, but it didn't really stop. I was on a journey in egypt when I began the OPC plus. Somedays I had diarrhea and others constipation but I didn't know if it was because of the cleanse, because of the food, because of travelling.. .. One good thing during the stay is that I had, since last year, a pimple that I couldn't get rid of(even whith thuja essential oil or 3% hydrogen peroxyd) on my chest, and as I was taking grapefruit seed extract in beverages, I rubed some on my pimple and in a few days it made a crust and fell ! Back in France mid-february my breast was bad, I was still on diarrhea, all the same I started vitamin C. On march 1st, I began using lugol (paint my solar chakra with 2 drops).

Now I have daily:

-1budwig with 6 tablespoon of goat cottage cheese + 3 flaxseed oil (how can I replace when travelling? flaxseed oil caps? how much?)

-3 times 2g of vitamin C

-2 times 2 caps of OPC plus (I try morning+lunch but somtimes it's too close, when I have morning+evening I sleep bad. NB sometimes I have pain in my teeth or gums or jaw after the 2nd sirving)

-1 lugol painting with 2 drops

-morning and evening I rub my breast with vitafons onguent + thuja occidentalis essential oil

-one minute breast lymphatic massage

-2 or 3 times 25drops of H2O2 in a big amount of water + when I can an enema with the same

 

Is there sth else I should add or try instead (was thinking about IP6-inositol, serrapeptase, selenium, but i don't want to swallow billions of pills for nothing or even create negative interaction! ) ? Or chage some doses?...or. ..???

Can I still hope to heal naturally or should I consult this doctor...?

 

If sth is unclear please ask, I'll try to put things in other words...

 

I hope to receive some helpful feedback...

 

Sylviane (from France)

 

 

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Sylviane -

I can't see anything offhand that should be causing that much increased size. I am not really familiar with Geranium tea though. What kind of breast cancer do you have? Sometimes inflammatory breast cancer (IBF) can increase very rapidly and rash is common, but that usually involves significant swelling of the entire breast.

I would suggest that you change your painting to include, along with the iodine, colloidal silver and a few drops of DMSO. If at all possible, get yourselve some pesticide free oleander clippings and make your own oleander extract to add to the topical solution. You can condense it way, way down for topical use. Paint directly onto or near the site of the tumor problems.

See:

The Recipe for Oleander Soup Part 1

The Recipe for Oleander Soup Part 2 - Tips and Advice

If you don't have a source for the raw oleander to use, one or more of our members might be able to help.

Also, if the OPC Plus is on back order for some reason, I have a few bottles of SOPC that I could send to you via Priority Mail. The earliest I could send would be Monday, which means you should probably get it next Wednesday or Thursday.

With what you described, I would think that working yourself up to the maximum tolerated/safe amount of oleander would be essential. That would be up to 8 capsules daily, or perhaps 6 of the OPC Plus, for a body weight of 150 or more pounds.

All the best,

oleander soup , "sylviane" <sissyv wrote:>> Dear Ted, , and all,> > I began to follow the advices recieved but for most I have to wait for my order at utopia to be delivered from US..execpt for geranium tea and increasing lugol ( I didn't want to increase too much untill I recieve selenium) but yet I added 2 drops in my fruit juice with vitamineC in the morning, and then I also had the idea to pain my tumor site on the breast.> > When I began painting on solar chakra I already mentionned Iexperienced slightly runny nose, hearing like if my ears were stuffy, gum-teeth-jaw pain (not sure if it was related with iodine) and was very tired. When I added 2 drops orally I seldom had same effects, not always, and not worse. I thought I would raise the dose as soon as I get the selenium.> I've been painting my chakra for more than a month now without any problem on my skin, but after 2 weeks that I've been painting my breast on tumor site, here is what happen's happening:> > After 1 week there was a slight swelling of the lump that I supposed was detox, healing...but after the 2nd week the lump is doubling in size everyday, the breast is itching so much, also the tumor site is very hard and the skin over is weird (feels like if it were covered by a strong varnish) red brunish and covered with lots of little pimples and on the "normal skin" on the breast several pimples that itch too. > I stopped using lugol on my skin, I bathed with hydogen peroxyd, it didn't help, I used aloe vera to calm down the iching (it did but had to it frequently), and also tried to put ozonated olive oil on since yesterday afternoon, maybe this helped because the itching is better (less). > I'm in panic because it is swollen and itchy so I thought first the tumor was developing so quickly.> Now trying to think positively I imagine it could be a detox reaction. > But also the small pimples look like an allergy and this morning I discovered that the place I used to paint on my solar chakra has lot of small red pimples too (but it is not itchy).> > I'm still taking lugo orally but I wonder if it's Ok or not because of my skin reaction?> I suppose I should stop lugol on the skin, and absolutely on the tumor site, definitively or just a pause?> Do you have any suggestion?> > At the moment, I'm taking daily:> -1budwig with 2 teaspoon of goat cottage cheese + 1 flaxseed oil (will raise again but I'm out of oil waiting for my order to be delivered)> -3 times 2500mg of vitamin C (1/2 ascorbate, 1/2ALA)> -3 caps of OPC plus > -lugol once 2 drops (painting stopped) = 12 mg in one sirving> -once a day 25drops of H2O2 in a big amount as an enema > - drink all day long tea of geranium "herbe à robert"> waiting for my order to reintroduice oxygen in caps form, and add IP6-inositol,serrapeptase, selenium, and I wanted to increase iodine orally but that' the question?> > By the way I have only 2 caps OPC+ left, is there any "compensation" I can do if i don't recieve my order tomorrow ?> > thanks> Sylviane> > > - > TED SANFORD > oleander soup > Monday, March 15, 2010 11:47 PM> Re: please advise> > > > You can also check with iodine , but I would suggest taking at least an equivalent of 12mg lugols iodine orally/day. Some with cancer, especially breast cancer, go to 50 and 100mgs/day.> Ted> > --- On Mon, 3/15/10, sylviane sissyv wrote:> > > sylviane sissyv please advise> oleander soup > Monday, March 15, 2010, 2:53 PM> > > > > Hello all,> I hope some will be able to give me an advice or a helpful feedback as I'm anxious how to control my breast tumor.> I suppose the first thing is to introduce the history inshort:> Backgroung: When I was younger (around 30) I had a depression treated by official medecine (so you can imagine all the drugs I swallowed at this time! since then I have pb to control my weigth) but I finally resolved with psychotherapy. Now I'm 43.> Actual problem: I've been diagnosed a breast tumor 7 years ago. First doctor said it was a "mastose" (not sure in english) due to stress. Radiologist said a tumor to be cut out urgently and analysed to check if cancerous. I didn't go to any doctor with this mamography results and instead consulted a naturopath recomanded by a friend of mine because she has been succesful with lot of serious deseases...> She checked with a group of radionicians and they say it was not a cancer and should not be remove, at least not at the moment that my general health was not good.> First protocol really helped me with to be in better shape and almost rid me of sinusitis and cystitis that I had so often!> Then she kept on changing the treatments as my breast were sometime better sometimes worse but through monthes and years it has been worse: at the beginning I could just feel sth hard and hardly see it in the miror, later the breast was firmer, and after I noticed my breast was smaller and I could see sth and feel like pea. Now on my breast near the nipple I can see like a bean (sometimes it is red) and the skin immediately around is slightly dimpled, and at the limit of the dimpled skin, there is a hollow. (very difficult to describe specially that english is not may mother thongue!)> Some symptoms make me fear IBC and untill now neither the naturopath nor myself, seeking on the internet since september, have improve...> > I was about to decide to see a doctor (the only one near my place recommanded by beljanski organization, with the hope he will use as much as he can non agressive therapy but also I was prepare to go under whatever he says even chemo/radio/ surgery), when I read about hydrogen peroxyde. I decided to do a last try with this protocol. Since october I raised until 3 times 25 drops and my breast was better but each time I reduce H2O2, my breast becomes painful, firm, the "bean" turns red, the hollow deeper... I also try to add an enema with H2O2 every day and it helps. So H2O2 helps but doesn't heal...> At the end of january I was anxious again when I discovered some natural powerful therapies in Cancer and chose the oleander protocol. I began the budwig cream for breakfast (from 1 flax oil tablespoon, I raised until 3, I feel i couldn't eat more). Then on the first week of febrary I did the liver cleanse, the only point is that I mistook grape with grapefruit so I mixed grape juice with oil last thing before going to bed: I had diarrhea in the evening while taking epsom salt, I slept fine and continue diarrhea the other day, but it didn't really stop. I was on a journey in egypt when I began the OPC plus. Somedays I had diarrhea and others constipation but I didn't know if it was because of the cleanse, because of the food, because of travelling.. .. One good thing during the stay is that I had, since last year, a pimple that I couldn't get rid of(even whith thuja essential oil or 3% hydrogen peroxyd) on my chest, and as I was taking grapefruit seed extract in beverages, I rubed some on my pimple and in a few days it made a crust and fell ! Back in France mid-february my breast was bad, I was still on diarrhea, all the same I started vitamin C. On march 1st, I began using lugol (paint my solar chakra with 2 drops). > Now I have daily:> -1budwig with 6 tablespoon of goat cottage cheese + 3 flaxseed oil (how can I replace when travelling? flaxseed oil caps? how much?)> -3 times 2g of vitamin C> -2 times 2 caps of OPC plus (I try morning+lunch but somtimes it's too close, when I have morning+evening I sleep bad. NB sometimes I have pain in my teeth or gums or jaw after the 2nd sirving)> -1 lugol painting with 2 drops> -morning and evening I rub my breast with vitafons onguent + thuja occidentalis essential oil> -one minute breast lymphatic massage> -2 or 3 times 25drops of H2O2 in a big amount of water + when I can an enema with the same> > Is there sth else I should add or try instead (was thinking about IP6-inositol, serrapeptase, selenium, but i don't want to swallow billions of pills for nothing or even create negative interaction! ) ? Or chage some doses?...or. ..???> Can I still hope to heal naturally or should I consult this doctor...?> > If sth is unclear please ask, I'll try to put things in other words...> > I hope to receive some helpful feedback...> > Sylviane (from France)>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sylviane,What type of breast cancer do you have? By chance is it inflammatory breast cancer? To my knowledge, iodine should not cause this reaction. But to be safe and cover all bases, I have forwarded your post to an iodine expert and as soon as I hear from her, I will get back to you.Now, when one starts to take oleander, it can result in pain in the tumor site, and this is a good thing. It means that the oleander has reached its target.When you receive your oleander order, gradually increase to 8 to 10 capsules daily, as much as you can tolerate. I would also encourage you to incorporate as many of the supplements included on A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol as possible, such as curcumin, black

cumin oil, cancer fighting mushroom products such as RM-10. Vitamin B-17 (Laetrile). and just go down the list on the protocol for the other supplements.I would not stop taking the iodine internally. You should be taking 100 mg daily. You may have to work up to this amount, starting at 50 mg.In the meantime, as soon as I hear from my iodine source on any possible side effects and advice, I will post her reply.My Best,sylviane <sissyvoleander soup Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 11:30:47 AMRe: please advise: update after adding more iodine

 

 



Dear Ted, , and all,

 

 

I began to follow the advices recieved but for most I have to wait for my order at utopia to be delivered from US..execpt for geranium tea and increasing lugol ( I didn't want to increase too much untill I recieve selenium) but yet I added 2 drops in my fruit juice with vitamineC in the morning, and then I also had the idea to pain my tumor site on the breast.

When I began painting on solar chakra I

already mentionned Iexperienced slightly runny nose, hearing like if my ears were stuffy, gum-teeth-jaw pain (not sure if it was related with iodine) and was very tired. When I added 2 drops orally I seldom had same effects, not always, and not worse. I thought I would raise the dose as soon as I get the selenium.

I've been painting my chakra for more than a month now without any problem on my skin, but after 2 weeks that I've been painting my breast on tumor site, here is what happen's happening:

 

After 1 week there was a slight swelling of the lump that I supposed was detox, healing...but after the 2nd week the lump is doubling in size everyday, the breast is itching so much, also the tumor site is very hard and the skin over is weird (feels like if it

were covered by a strong varnish) red brunish and covered with lots of little pimples and on the "normal skin" on the breast several pimples that itch too.

I stopped using lugol on my skin, I bathed with hydogen peroxyd, it didn't help, I used aloe vera to calm down the iching (it did but had to it frequently), and also tried to put ozonated olive oil on since yesterday afternoon, maybe this helped because the itching is better (less).

I'm in panic because it is swollen and itchy so I thought first the tumor was developing so quickly.

Now trying to think positively I imagine it could be a detox reaction.

But also the small pimples look like an

allergy and this morning I discovered that the place I used to paint on my solar chakra has lot of small red pimples too (but it is not itchy).

 

I'm still taking lugo orally but I wonder if it's Ok or not because of my skin reaction?

I suppose I should stop lugol on the skin, and absolutely on the tumor site, definitively or just a pause?

Do you have any suggestion?

At the moment, I'm taking daily:

-1budwig with 2 teaspoon of goat cottage cheese + 1 flaxseed oil (will raise again but I'm out of oil waiting for my order to be delivered)

-3 times 2500mg of vitamin C (1/2 ascorbate, 1/2ALA)

-3 caps of OPC plus

-lugol once 2 drops (painting stopped) = 12 mg in one sirving

-once a day 25drops of H2O2 in a big amount as an enema

- drink all day long tea of geranium "herbe à robert"

waiting for my order to reintroduice oxygen in caps form, and add IP6-inositol, serrapeptase, selenium, and I wanted to increase iodine orally but that' the question?

 

By the way I have only 2 caps OPC+ left, is there any "compensation" I can do if i don't recieve my order tomorrow ?

 

thanks

Sylviane

[Guest guest]

HERE'S MY OBSERVATION,

I had used Melaleuca (Tea Tree) oil on my skin and Toe nail to fight a

Fungus. I too broke out with a rash with mini-Pimples on the skin area.

It itched me to death! I stopped applying it immediately. The Skin

hardened and became painful. It took a week or more for it to clear.

So I would assume by your description you are Allergic to these Topical

applications.

Ron

 

 

sylviane wrote:

 

 



 

Dear Ted, , and all,

 

 

I began to follow the advices

recieved but for most I have to wait for my order at utopia to be

delivered from US..execpt for geranium tea and increasing lugol ( I

didn't want to increase too much untill I recieve selenium) but yet I

added 2 drops in my fruit juice with vitamineC in the morning, and then

I also had the idea to pain my tumor site on the breast.

 

When I began painting on solar

chakra I already mentionned Iexperienced slightly runny nose, hearing

like if my ears were stuffy, gum-teeth-jaw pain (not sure if it was

related with iodine) and was very tired.  When I added 2 drops orally I

seldom had same effects, not always, and not worse. I thought I would

raise the dose as soon as I get the selenium.

I've been painting my chakra for

more than a month now without any problem on my skin, but after 2 weeks

that I've been painting my breast on tumor site, here is what happen's

happening:

 

After 1 week there was a slight

swelling of the lump that I supposed was detox, healing...but after the

2nd week the lump is doubling in size everyday, the breast is itching

so much, also the tumor site is very hard and the skin over is weird

(feels like if it were covered by a strong varnish) red brunish and

covered with lots of little pimples and on the "normal skin" on the

breast several pimples that itch too.

I stopped using lugol on my skin, I

bathed with hydogen peroxyd, it didn't help, I used aloe vera to calm

down the iching (it did but had to it frequently), and also tried to

put ozonated olive oil on since yesterday afternoon, maybe this helped

because the itching is better (less). 

I'm in panic because it is swollen

and itchy so I thought first the tumor was developing so quickly.

Now trying to think positively

I imagine it could be a detox reaction.

But also the small pimples look like

an allergy and this morning I discovered that the place I used to paint

on my solar chakra has lot of small red pimples too (but it is not

itchy).

 

I'm still taking lugo orally but I

wonder if it's Ok or not because of my skin reaction?

I suppose I should stop lugol on the

skin, and absolutely on the tumor site, definitively or just a pause?

Do you have any suggestion?

 

At the moment, I'm taking daily:

 -1budwig with 2 teaspoon of goat

cottage cheese + 1 flaxseed oil (will raise again but I'm out of oil

waiting for my order to be delivered)

 -3 times 2500mg of vitamin C (1/2

ascorbate, 1/2ALA)

 -3 caps of OPC plus 

 -lugol once 2 drops (painting

stopped) = 12 mg in one sirving

 -once a day 25drops of H2O2 in a big amount as an enema

- drink all day long tea of geranium

"herbe à robert"

waiting for my order to reintroduice

oxygen in caps form, and add IP6-inositol,serrapeptase, selenium,

and I wanted to increase iodine orally but that' the question?

 

By the way I have only 2 caps OPC+

left, is there any "compensation" I can do if i don't recieve my order

tomorrow ?

 

thanks

Sylviane

 

 

 

 

-----

Original Message -----

 

TED SANFORD

To:

oleander soup

 

Sent:

Monday, March 15, 2010 11:47 PM

Subject:

Re: please advise

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can also check with iodine ,

but I would suggest taking at least an equivalent of 12mg lugols iodine

orally/day.  Some with cancer, especially breast cancer, go to 50 and

100mgs/day.

Ted

 

--- On Mon, 3/15/10, sylviane <sissyv (AT) wanadoo (DOT) fr>

wrote:

 

sylviane <sissyv (AT) wanadoo (DOT) fr>

please advise

oleander soup

Monday, March 15, 2010, 2:53 PM

 

 

 

Hello all,

I hope some will be able

to give me an advice or a helpful feedback as I'm anxious how to

control my breast tumor.

I suppose the first thing

is to introduce the history inshort:

Backgroung: When I was

younger (around 30) I had a depression treated by official medecine (so

you can imagine all the drugs I swallowed at this time! since then I

have pb to control my weigth) but I finally resolved with

psychotherapy. Now I'm 43.

Actual problem: I've been

diagnosed a breast tumor 7 years ago. First doctor said it was a

"mastose" (not sure in english) due to stress. Radiologist said a tumor

to be cut out urgently and analysed to check if cancerous. I didn't go

to any doctor with this mamography results and instead consulted a

naturopath recomanded by a friend of mine because she has been

succesful with lot of serious deseases...

She checked with a group

of radionicians and they say it was not a cancer and should not be

remove, at least not at the moment that my general health was not good.

First protocol really

helped me with to be in better shape and almost rid me of sinusitis and

cystitis that I had so often!

Then she kept on changing

the treatments as my breast were sometime better sometimes worse but

through monthes and years it has been worse: at the beginning I could

just feel sth hard and hardly see it in the miror, later the breast was

firmer, and after I noticed my breast was smaller and I could see sth

and feel like pea. Now on my breast near the nipple I can see like a

bean (sometimes it is red) and the skin immediately around is slightly

dimpled, and at the limit of the dimpled skin, there is a hollow. (very

difficult to describe specially that english is not may mother thongue!)

Some symptoms make me fear

IBC and untill now neither the naturopath nor myself, seeking on the

internet since september, have improve...

 

I was about to decide to

see a doctor (the only one near my place recommanded by beljanski

organization, with the hope he will use as much as he can non agressive

therapy but also I was prepare to go under whatever he says even

chemo/radio/ surgery), when I read about hydrogen peroxyde. I decided

to do a last try with this protocol. Since october I raised until 3

times 25 drops and my breast was better but each time I reduce H2O2, my

breast becomes painful, firm, the "bean" turns red, the hollow

deeper... I also try to add an enema with H2O2 every day and it helps.

So H2O2 helps but doesn't heal...

At the end of january I

was anxious again when I discovered some natural powerful therapies in

Cancer and chose the oleander protocol. I began the budwig cream for

breakfast (from 1 flax oil tablespoon, I raised until 3, I feel i

couldn't eat more). Then on the first week of febrary I did the liver

cleanse, the only point is that I mistook grape with grapefruit so I

mixed grape juice with oil last thing before going to bed: I had

diarrhea in the evening while taking epsom salt, I slept fine and

continue diarrhea the other day, but it didn't really stop. I was on a

journey in egypt when I began the OPC plus. Somedays I had diarrhea and

others constipation but I didn't know if it was because of the cleanse,

because of the food, because of travelling.. .. One good thing  during

the stay is that I had, since last year, a pimple that I couldn't get

rid of(even whith thuja essential oil or 3% hydrogen peroxyd) on my

chest, and as I was taking grapefruit seed extract in beverages,

I rubed some on my pimple and in a few days it made a crust and fell

! Back in France mid-february my breast was bad, I was still on

diarrhea, all the same I started vitamin C. On march 1st, I began using

lugol (paint my solar chakra with 2 drops).

Now I have daily:

 -1budwig with 6

tablespoon of goat cottage cheese + 3 flaxseed oil (how can I replace

when travelling? flaxseed oil caps? how much?)

 -3 times 2g of vitamin C

 -2 times 2 caps of OPC

plus (I try morning+lunch but somtimes it's too close, when I have

morning+evening I sleep bad. NB sometimes I have pain in my teeth or

gums or jaw after the 2nd sirving)

 -1 lugol painting with 2

drops

 -morning and evening I

rub my breast with vitafons onguent + thuja occidentalis essential oil

 -one minute breast

lymphatic massage

 -2 or 3 times 25drops of

H2O2 in a big amount of water + when I can an enema with the same

 

Is there sth else I should

add or try instead (was thinking about IP6-inositol, serrapeptase,

selenium, but i don't want to swallow billions of pills for nothing or

even create negative interaction! ) ? Or chage some doses?...or. ..???

Can I still hope to heal

naturally or should I consult this doctor...?

 

If sth is unclear please

ask, I'll try to put things in other words...

 

I hope to receive some

helpful feedback...

 

Sylviane (from France)

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hello Tony,

 

Thank you for your reply.

 

First, good news: my order arrived today so my OPC won't be interrrupted and I'll be able to increase the dose. I'm 120 pounds; at the moment I take 2 caps morning and 1 at lunch, but, at this dose, I'm already subject to diarrhea (not too often but rather liquid), how much/fast do you think I can increase?

 

I don't have a medical diagnostic for a special type of cancer but I had on my mind (and I fear it, because I read it is the worst) that it might be IBC because during7 years since when a mammography showed an "irregular tumor" my breast has decreased in size and the nipple points up like hangged by the lump above it. Until now symptoms had always affected only the upper part of the breast.

 

Today the skin is better and the tumor site is less swollen (but very hard, much more than before), I'll be away from home for 3 days so I let it heal for this time at least. After:

Do you suggest painting my breast with a mix of iodine+coloidal silver+dmso+oleander soup ?

There are oleander in my area but I'm afraid there are pesticide on and I don't have a garden to grow them myself ! Is there a way to check else than work 7hours to make the soup and taste if it tingles?

If I can't get raw oleander, can I buy liquid oleander from africa (the one you recommand) to put it in the mix?

I have a DMSO "99.9% pure, pharmaceutical grade solvent, for industrial use only" : is it safe for the use you recommand (I'm concerned by "industrial use"!!!)?

 

Thanks for your advice...

Sylviane

 

 

-

TonyI

oleander soup

Thursday, April 08, 2010 10:13 PM

Re: please advise: update after adding more iodine

 

Sylviane -

I can't see anything offhand that should be causing that much increased size. I am not really familiar with Geranium tea though. What kind of breast cancer do you have? Sometimes inflammatory breast cancer (IBF) can increase very rapidly and rash is common, but that usually involves significant swelling of the entire breast.

I would suggest that you change your painting to include, along with the iodine, colloidal silver and a few drops of DMSO. If at all possible, get yourselve some pesticide free oleander clippings and make your own oleander extract to add to the topical solution. You can condense it way, way down for topical use. Paint directly onto or near the site of the tumor problems.

See:

The Recipe for Oleander Soup Part 1

The Recipe for Oleander Soup Part 2 - Tips and Advice

If you don't have a source for the raw oleander to use, one or more of our members might be able to help.

Also, if the OPC Plus is on back order for some reason, I have a few bottles of SOPC that I could send to you via Priority Mail. The earliest I could send would be Monday, which means you should probably get it next Wednesday or Thursday.

With what you described, I would think that working yourself up to the maximum tolerated/safe amount of oleander would be essential. That would be up to 8 capsules daily, or perhaps 6 of the OPC Plus, for a body weight of 150 or more pounds.

All the best,

oleander soup , "sylviane" <sissyv wrote:>> Dear Ted, , and all,> > I began to follow the advices recieved but for most I have to wait for my order at utopia to be delivered from US..execpt for geranium tea and increasing lugol ( I didn't want to increase too much untill I recieve selenium) but yet I added 2 drops in my fruit juice with vitamineC in the morning, and then I also had the idea to pain my tumor site on the breast.> > When I began painting on solar chakra I already mentionned Iexperienced slightly runny nose, hearing like if my ears were stuffy, gum-teeth-jaw pain (not sure if it was related with iodine) and was very tired. When I added 2 drops orally I seldom had same effects, not always, and not worse. I thought I would raise the dose as soon as I get the selenium.> I've been painting my chakra for more than a month now without any problem on my skin, but after 2 weeks that I've been painting my breast on tumor site, here is what happen's happening:> > After 1 week there was a slight swelling of the lump that I supposed was detox, healing...but after the 2nd week the lump is doubling in size everyday, the breast is itching so much, also the tumor site is very hard and the skin over is weird (feels like if it were covered by a strong varnish) red brunish and covered with lots of little pimples and on the "normal skin" on the breast several pimples that itch too. > I stopped using lugol on my skin, I bathed with hydogen peroxyd, it didn't help, I used aloe vera to calm down the iching (it did but had to it frequently), and also tried to put ozonated olive oil on since yesterday afternoon, maybe this helped because the itching is better (less). > I'm in panic because it is swollen and itchy so I thought first the tumor was developing so quickly.> Now trying to think positively I imagine it could be a detox reaction. > But also the small pimples look like an allergy and this morning I discovered that the place I used to paint on my solar chakra has lot of small red pimples too (but it is not itchy).> > I'm still taking lugo orally but I wonder if it's Ok or not because of my skin reaction?> I suppose I should stop lugol on the skin, and absolutely on the tumor site, definitively or just a pause?> Do you have any suggestion?> > At the moment, I'm taking daily:> -1budwig with 2 teaspoon of goat cottage cheese + 1 flaxseed oil (will raise again but I'm out of oil waiting for my order to be delivered)> -3 times 2500mg of vitamin C (1/2 ascorbate, 1/2ALA)> -3 caps of OPC plus > -lugol once 2 drops (painting stopped) = 12 mg in one sirving> -once a day 25drops of H2O2 in a big amount as an enema > - drink all day long tea of geranium "herbe à robert"> waiting for my order to reintroduice oxygen in caps form, and add IP6-inositol,serrapeptase, selenium, and I wanted to increase iodine orally but that' the question?> > By the way I have only 2 caps OPC+ left, is there any "compensation" I can do if i don't recieve my order tomorrow ?> > thanks> Sylviane> > > - > TED SANFORD > oleander soup > Monday, March 15, 2010 11:47 PM> Re: please advise> > > > You can also check with iodine , but I would suggest taking at least an equivalent of 12mg lugols iodine orally/day. Some with cancer, especially breast cancer, go to 50 and 100mgs/day.> Ted> > --- On Mon, 3/15/10, sylviane sissyv wrote:> > > sylviane sissyv please advise> oleander soup > Monday, March 15, 2010, 2:53 PM> > > > > Hello all,> I hope some will be able to give me an advice or a helpful feedback as I'm anxious how to control my breast tumor.> I suppose the first thing is to introduce the history inshort:> Backgroung: When I was younger (around 30) I had a depression treated by official medecine (so you can imagine all the drugs I swallowed at this time! since then I have pb to control my weigth) but I finally resolved with psychotherapy. Now I'm 43.> Actual problem: I've been diagnosed a breast tumor 7 years ago. First doctor said it was a "mastose" (not sure in english) due to stress. Radiologist said a tumor to be cut out urgently and analysed to check if cancerous. I didn't go to any doctor with this mamography results and instead consulted a naturopath recomanded by a friend of mine because she has been succesful with lot of serious deseases...> She checked with a group of radionicians and they say it was not a cancer and should not be remove, at least not at the moment that my general health was not good.> First protocol really helped me with to be in better shape and almost rid me of sinusitis and cystitis that I had so often!> Then she kept on changing the treatments as my breast were sometime better sometimes worse but through monthes and years it has been worse: at the beginning I could just feel sth hard and hardly see it in the miror, later the breast was firmer, and after I noticed my breast was smaller and I could see sth and feel like pea. Now on my breast near the nipple I can see like a bean (sometimes it is red) and the skin immediately around is slightly dimpled, and at the limit of the dimpled skin, there is a hollow. (very difficult to describe specially that english is not may mother thongue!)> Some symptoms make me fear IBC and untill now neither the naturopath nor myself, seeking on the internet since september, have improve...> > I was about to decide to see a doctor (the only one near my place recommanded by beljanski organization, with the hope he will use as much as he can non agressive therapy but also I was prepare to go under whatever he says even chemo/radio/ surgery), when I read about hydrogen peroxyde. I decided to do a last try with this protocol. Since october I raised until 3 times 25 drops and my breast was better but each time I reduce H2O2, my breast becomes painful, firm, the "bean" turns red, the hollow deeper... I also try to add an enema with H2O2 every day and it helps. So H2O2 helps but doesn't heal...> At the end of january I was anxious again when I discovered some natural powerful therapies in Cancer and chose the oleander protocol. I began the budwig cream for breakfast (from 1 flax oil tablespoon, I raised until 3, I feel i couldn't eat more). Then on the first week of febrary I did the liver cleanse, the only point is that I mistook grape with grapefruit so I mixed grape juice with oil last thing before going to bed: I had diarrhea in the evening while taking epsom salt, I slept fine and continue diarrhea the other day, but it didn't really stop. I was on a journey in egypt when I began the OPC plus. Somedays I had diarrhea and others constipation but I didn't know if it was because of the cleanse, because of the food, because of travelling.. .. One good thing during the stay is that I had, since last year, a pimple that I couldn't get rid of(even whith thuja essential oil or 3% hydrogen peroxyd) on my chest, and as I was taking grapefruit seed extract in beverages, I rubed some on my pimple and in a few days it made a crust and fell ! Back in France mid-february my breast was bad, I was still on diarrhea, all the same I started vitamin C. On march 1st, I began using lugol (paint my solar chakra with 2 drops). > Now I have daily:> -1budwig with 6 tablespoon of goat cottage cheese + 3 flaxseed oil (how can I replace when travelling? flaxseed oil caps? how much?)> -3 times 2g of vitamin C> -2 times 2 caps of OPC plus (I try morning+lunch but somtimes it's too close, when I have morning+evening I sleep bad. NB sometimes I have pain in my teeth or gums or jaw after the 2nd sirving)> -1 lugol painting with 2 drops> -morning and evening I rub my breast with vitafons onguent + thuja occidentalis essential oil> -one minute breast lymphatic massage> -2 or 3 times 25drops of H2O2 in a big amount of water + when I can an enema with the same> > Is there sth else I should add or try instead (was thinking about IP6-inositol, serrapeptase, selenium, but i don't want to swallow billions of pills for nothing or even create negative interaction! ) ? Or chage some doses?...or. ..???> Can I still hope to heal naturally or should I consult this doctor...?> > If sth is unclear please ask, I'll try to put things in other words...> > I hope to receive some helpful feedback...> > Sylviane (from France)>

[Guest guest]



Hi ,

 

I'll be looking forward for you idoine expert advice. In the meantime I'm taking it internally, as i received my selenium today I'm now at 4 drops, I'll stay at these dose at lease 3 days because i'm away from home so not a good time to experiment, then if I'm OK I'll work up: is it better more sirvings or more drops/sirving? with food or without (I put the drops in fruit fuice)?

Some people recommand iodoral for high dose for stomach tolerance. Do you agree or is lugol better for any reason ?

 

I forgot to mentionned that I bought a big bag of organic curcumin powder and I try to find each day a food in which I could put a tea spoon, and apricot seeds (I eat 15 a day). Also I began to have a glass of sauerkrout first thing in the morning which is recommanded in budwig...

 

I don't know about black cumin oil, I have to look about that..

 

Thank you for your kindness

Sylviane

 

 

-

May

oleander soup

Friday, April 09, 2010 2:55 AM

Re: please advise: update after adding more iodine

 

Hi Sylviane,What type of breast cancer do you have? By chance is it inflammatory breast cancer? To my knowledge, iodine should not cause this reaction. But to be safe and cover all bases, I have forwarded your post to an iodine expert and as soon as I hear from her, I will get back to you.Now, when one starts to take oleander, it can result in pain in the tumor site, and this is a good thing. It means that the oleander has reached its target.When you receive your oleander order, gradually increase to 8 to 10 capsules daily, as much as you can tolerate. I would also encourage you to incorporate as many of the supplements included on A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol as possible, such as curcumin, black cumin oil, cancer fighting mushroom products such as RM-10. Vitamin B-17 (Laetrile). and just go down the list on the protocol for the other supplements.I would not stop taking the iodine internally. You should be taking 100 mg daily. You may have to work up to this amount, starting at 50 mg.In the meantime, as soon as I hear from my iodine source on any possible side effects and advice, I will post her reply.My Best,

 

 

 

sylviane <sissyv (AT) wanadoo (DOT) fr>oleander soup Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 11:30:47 AMRe: please advise: update after adding more iodine



Dear Ted, , and all,

 

 

I began to follow the advices recieved but for most I have to wait for my order at utopia to be delivered from US..execpt for geranium tea and increasing lugol ( I didn't want to increase too much untill I recieve selenium) but yet I added 2 drops in my fruit juice with vitamineC in the morning, and then I also had the idea to pain my tumor site on the breast.

 

When I began painting on solar chakra I already mentionned Iexperienced slightly runny nose, hearing like if my ears were stuffy, gum-teeth-jaw pain (not sure if it was related with iodine) and was very tired. When I added 2 drops orally I seldom had same effects, not always, and not worse. I thought I would raise the dose as soon as I get the selenium.

I've been painting my chakra for more than a month now without any problem on my skin, but after 2 weeks that I've been painting my breast on tumor site, here is what happen's happening:

 

After 1 week there was a slight swelling of the lump that I supposed was detox, healing...but after the 2nd week the lump is doubling in size everyday, the breast is itching so much, also the tumor site is very hard and the skin over is weird (feels like if it were covered by a strong varnish) red brunish and covered with lots of little pimples and on the "normal skin" on the breast several pimples that itch too.

I stopped using lugol on my skin, I bathed with hydogen peroxyd, it didn't help, I used aloe vera to calm down the iching (it did but had to it frequently), and also tried to put ozonated olive oil on since yesterday afternoon, maybe this helped because the itching is better (less).

I'm in panic because it is swollen and itchy so I thought first the tumor was developing so quickly.

Now trying to think positively I imagine it could be a detox reaction.

But also the small pimples look like an allergy and this morning I discovered that the place I used to paint on my solar chakra has lot of small red pimples too (but it is not itchy).

 

I'm still taking lugo orally but I wonder if it's Ok or not because of my skin reaction?

I suppose I should stop lugol on the skin, and absolutely on the tumor site, definitively or just a pause?

Do you have any suggestion?

 

At the moment, I'm taking daily:

-1budwig with 2 teaspoon of goat cottage cheese + 1 flaxseed oil (will raise again but I'm out of oil waiting for my order to be delivered)

-3 times 2500mg of vitamin C (1/2 ascorbate, 1/2ALA)

-3 caps of OPC plus

-lugol once 2 drops (painting stopped) = 12 mg in one sirving

-once a day 25drops of H2O2 in a big amount as an enema

- drink all day long tea of geranium "herbe à robert"

waiting for my order to reintroduice oxygen in caps form, and add IP6-inositol, serrapeptase, selenium, and I wanted to increase iodine orally but that' the question?

 

By the way I have only 2 caps OPC+ left, is there any "compensation" I can do if i don't recieve my order tomorrow ?

 

thanks

Sylviane

[Guest guest]

Hi Sylviane,I received a reply from my source and already posted it. In case you didn't see it, I will repost it again below:When introduced into the system, thyroid and Lugol solution go immediately into the cancer mass. These ripe cells take it up fast and they perhaps grow a little faster but they soak in more with

great greed — as much as they can — together with a little bit of sodium, probably. But then there isn't much sodium left. So then these cells pick up potassium and the oxidizing enzymes and die by themselves.

You have to realize that cancer cells live essentially on fermentation but potassium and oxidizing enzymes introduce oxidation. And that is the

point at which we can kill cancer cells because we take away the conditions which they need to continue to live.Iodoral is Lugol's in tablet form, so it would be whichever you prefer. I'm not sure if it matters if you take it with or without food but work up to the recommended dosage.My Best,sylviane <sissyvoleander soup Sent: Fri, April 9, 2010 3:10:08 PMRe: please advise: update after adding more iodine

 

 



Hi ,

 

I'll be looking forward for you idoine expert advice. In the meantime I'm taking it internally, as i received my selenium today I'm now at 4 drops, I'll stay at these dose at lease 3 days because i'm away from home so not a good time to experiment, then if I'm OK I'll work up: is it better more sirvings or more drops/sirving? with food or without (I put the drops in fruit fuice)?

Some people recommand iodoral for high dose for stomach tolerance. Do you agree or is lugol better for any reason ?

 

I forgot to mentionned that I bought a big bag of organic curcumin powder and I try to find each day a food in which I could put a tea spoon, and apricot seeds (I eat 15 a day). Also I began to have a glass of sauerkrout first thing in the morning which is recommanded in budwig...

 

I don't know about black cumin oil, I have to look about that..

 

Thank you for your kindness

Sylviane

[Guest guest]

My reaction to tea tree oil has always been like that?

 

Thanks, Robyn

 

 

 

Ron <rwoleander soup Sent: Fri, April 9, 2010 12:00:24 PMRe: please advise: update after adding more iodine

HERE'S MY OBSERVATION,I had used Melaleuca (Tea Tree) oil on my skin and Toe nail to fight a Fungus. I too broke out with a rash with mini-Pimples on the skin area. It itched me to death! I stopped applying it immediately. The Skin hardened and became painful. It took a week or more for it to clear.So I would assume by your description you are Allergic to these Topical applications.Ronsylviane wrote:



Dear Ted, , and all,

 

 

I began to follow the advices recieved but for most I have to wait for my order at utopia to be delivered from US..execpt for geranium tea and increasing lugol ( I didn't want to increase too much untill I recieve selenium) but yet I added 2 drops in my fruit juice with vitamineC in the morning, and then I also had the idea to pain my tumor site on the breast.

 

When I began painting on solar chakra I already mentionned Iexperienced slightly runny nose, hearing like if my ears were stuffy, gum-teeth-jaw pain (not sure if it was related with iodine) and was very tired. When I added 2 drops orally I seldom had same effects, not always, and not worse. I thought I would raise the dose as soon as I get the selenium.

I've been painting my chakra for more than a month now without any problem on my skin, but after 2 weeks that I've been painting my breast on tumor site, here is what happen's happening:

 

After 1 week there was a slight swelling of the lump that I supposed was detox, healing...but after the 2nd week the lump is doubling in size everyday, the breast is itching so much, also the tumor site is very hard and the skin over is weird (feels like if it were covered by a strong varnish) red brunish and covered with lots of little pimples and on the "normal skin" on the breast several pimples that itch too.

I stopped using lugol on my skin, I bathed with hydogen peroxyd, it didn't help, I used aloe vera to calm down the iching (it did but had to it frequently), and also tried to put ozonated olive oil on since yesterday afternoon, maybe this helped because the itching is better (less).

I'm in panic because it is swollen and itchy so I thought first the tumor was developing so quickly.

Now trying to think positively I imagine it could be a detox reaction.

But also the small pimples look like an allergy and this morning I discovered that the place I used to paint on my solar chakra has lot of small red pimples too (but it is not itchy).

 

I'm still taking lugo orally but I wonder if it's Ok or not because of my skin reaction?

I suppose I should stop lugol on the skin, and absolutely on the tumor site, definitively or just a pause?

Do you have any suggestion?

 

At the moment, I'm taking daily:

-1budwig with 2 teaspoon of goat cottage cheese + 1 flaxseed oil (will raise again but I'm out of oil waiting for my order to be delivered)

-3 times 2500mg of vitamin C (1/2 ascorbate, 1/2ALA)

-3 caps of OPC plus

-lugol once 2 drops (painting stopped) = 12 mg in one sirving

-once a day 25drops of H2O2 in a big amount as an enema

- drink all day long tea of geranium "herbe à robert"

waiting for my order to reintroduice oxygen in caps form, and add IP6-inositol, serrapeptase, selenium, and I wanted to increase iodine orally but that' the question?

 

By the way I have only 2 caps OPC+ left, is there any "compensation" I can do if i don't recieve my order tomorrow ?

 

thanks

Sylviane

 

 

 

-

TED SANFORD

oleander soup

Monday, March 15, 2010 11:47 PM

Re: please advise

 

 

 

 

You can also check with iodine , but I would suggest taking at least an equivalent of 12mg lugols iodine orally/day. Some with cancer, especially breast cancer, go to 50 and 100mgs/day. Ted--- On Mon, 3/15/10, sylviane <sissyv (AT) wanadoo (DOT) fr> wrote:

sylviane <sissyv (AT) wanadoo (DOT) fr> please adviseoleander soupMonday, March 15, 2010, 2:53 PM

Hello all,

I hope some will be able to give me an advice or a helpful feedback as I'm anxious how to control my breast tumor.

I suppose the first thing is to introduce the history inshort:

Backgroung: When I was younger (around 30) I had a depression treated by official medecine (so you can imagine all the drugs I swallowed at this time! since then I have pb to control my weigth) but I finally resolved with psychotherapy. Now I'm 43.

Actual problem: I've been diagnosed a breast tumor 7 years ago. First doctor said it was a "mastose" (not sure in english) due to stress. Radiologist said a tumor to be cut out urgently and analysed to check if cancerous. I didn't go to any doctor with this mamography results and instead consulted a naturopath recomanded by a friend of mine because she has been succesful with lot of serious deseases...

She checked with a group of radionicians and they say it was not a cancer and should not be remove, at least not at the moment that my general health was not good.

First protocol really helped me with to be in better shape and almost rid me of sinusitis and cystitis that I had so often!

Then she kept on changing the treatments as my breast were sometime better sometimes worse but through monthes and years it has been worse: at the beginning I could just feel sth hard and hardly see it in the miror, later the breast was firmer, and after I noticed my breast was smaller and I could see sth and feel like pea. Now on my breast near the nipple I can see like a bean (sometimes it is red) and the skin immediately around is slightly dimpled, and at the limit of the dimpled skin, there is a hollow. (very difficult to describe specially that english is not may mother thongue!)

Some symptoms make me fear IBC and untill now neither the naturopath nor myself, seeking on the internet since september, have improve...

 

I was about to decide to see a doctor (the only one near my place recommanded by beljanski organization, with the hope he will use as much as he can non agressive therapy but also I was prepare to go under whatever he says even chemo/radio/ surgery), when I read about hydrogen peroxyde. I decided to do a last try with this protocol. Since october I raised until 3 times 25 drops and my breast was better but each time I reduce H2O2, my breast becomes painful, firm, the "bean" turns red, the hollow deeper... I also try to add an enema with H2O2 every day and it helps. So H2O2 helps but doesn't heal...

At the end of january I was anxious again when I discovered some natural powerful therapies in Cancer and chose the oleander protocol. I began the budwig cream for breakfast (from 1 flax oil tablespoon, I raised until 3, I feel i couldn't eat more). Then on the first week of febrary I did the liver cleanse, the only point is that I mistook grape with grapefruit so I mixed grape juice with oil last thing before going to bed: I had diarrhea in the evening while taking epsom salt, I slept fine and continue diarrhea the other day, but it didn't really stop. I was on a journey in egypt when I began the OPC plus. Somedays I had diarrhea and others constipation but I didn't know if it was because of the cleanse, because of the food, because of travelling.. .. One good thing during the stay is that I had, since last year, a pimple that I couldn't get rid of(even whith thuja essential oil or 3% hydrogen

peroxyd) on my chest, and as I was taking grapefruit seed extract in beverages, I rubed some on my pimple and in a few days it made a crust and fell ! Back in France mid-february my breast was bad, I was still on diarrhea, all the same I started vitamin C. On march 1st, I began using lugol (paint my solar chakra with 2 drops).

Now I have daily:

-1budwig with 6 tablespoon of goat cottage cheese + 3 flaxseed oil (how can I replace when travelling? flaxseed oil caps? how much?)

-3 times 2g of vitamin C

-2 times 2 caps of OPC plus (I try morning+lunch but somtimes it's too close, when I have morning+evening I sleep bad. NB sometimes I have pain in my teeth or gums or jaw after the 2nd sirving)

-1 lugol painting with 2 drops

-morning and evening I rub my breast with vitafons onguent + thuja occidentalis essential oil

-one minute breast lymphatic massage

-2 or 3 times 25drops of H2O2 in a big amount of water + when I can an enema with the same

 

Is there sth else I should add or try instead (was thinking about IP6-inositol, serrapeptase, selenium, but i don't want to swallow billions of pills for nothing or even create negative interaction! ) ? Or chage some doses?...or. ..???

Can I still hope to heal naturally or should I consult this doctor...?

 

If sth is unclear please ask, I'll try to put things in other words...

 

I hope to receive some helpful feedback...

 

Sylviane (from France)

 

 

[Guest guest]

Sylviane -

Good to hear your OPC Plus arrived. Normally you should stay at a given dose until you body becomes acclimated and then gradually work your way up. Some never have a problem and others take varying times to adjust. Though I am not advocating use of a mainstream medicinal item, people have used Immodium AD to help with diarrhea issues.

I don't think what you have sounds like IBC - it is usually much more aggressive and your entire breast would likely have long ago become quite swollen, along with other problems.

Yes, I recommend the combination of iodine, colloidal silver, oleander extract and DMSO. I think the DMSO you have should be fine as it is labeled "pharmaceutical grade". The "industrial use" is just a disclaimer they use since it is not approved for medicinal use. As a cautionary note, DMSO is a very powerful penetrant. Wash your hands before applying and do not store the mixture in a plastic container. Otherwise it will take anything on your hands into your skin and it may well dissolve the plastic. As far as the oleander, there are two options: One, you could order the liquid extract from Sutherlandiaopc.com. Otherwise I believe we have at least one group member who has some clippings they could send you. If you want to go that route let me know and I will contact them to make sure via email and reply to you privately.

All the best,

oleander soup , "sylviane" <sissyv wrote:>> Hello Tony,> > Thank you for your reply.> > First, good news: my order arrived today so my OPC won't be interrrupted and I'll be able to increase the dose. I'm 120 pounds; at the moment I take 2 caps morning and 1 at lunch, but, at this dose, I'm already subject to diarrhea (not too often but rather liquid), how much/fast do you think I can increase?> > I don't have a medical diagnostic for a special type of cancer but I had on my mind (and I fear it, because I read it is the worst) that it might be IBC because during7 years since when a mammography showed an "irregular tumor" my breast has decreased in size and the nipple points up like hangged by the lump above it. Until now symptoms had always affected only the upper part of the breast.> > Today the skin is better and the tumor site is less swollen (but very hard, much more than before), I'll be away from home for 3 days so I let it heal for this time at least. After:> Do you suggest painting my breast with a mix of iodine+coloidal silver+dmso+oleander soup ?> There are oleander in my area but I'm afraid there are pesticide on and I don't have a garden to grow them myself ! Is there a way to check else than work 7hours to make the soup and taste if it tingles?> If I can't get raw oleander, can I buy liquid oleander from africa (the one you recommand) to put it in the mix?> I have a DMSO "99.9% pure, pharmaceutical grade solvent, for industrial use only" : is it safe for the use you recommand (I'm concerned by "industrial use"!!!)?> > Thanks for your advice...> Sylviane>

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Hi Sylviane.

 

Here is some onformation about Black Cumin oil or Black seed oil.

 

Hugs Mary.

 

http://www.positive-action.net/blackseed/health%20benefits.htm

 

 

 

 

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sylviane

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Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:10 AM

Re: please advise: update after adding more iodine

 Hi ,

 

I'll be looking forward for you idoine expert advice. In the meantime I'm taking it internally, as i received my selenium today I'm now at 4 drops, I'll stay at these dose at lease 3 days because i'm away from home so not a good time to experiment, then if I'm OK I'll work up: is it better more sirvings or more drops/sirving? with food or without (I put the drops in fruit fuice)?

Some people recommand iodoral for high dose for stomach tolerance. Do you agree or is lugol better for any reason ?

 

I forgot to mentionned that I bought a big bag of organic curcumin powder and I try to find each day a food in which I could put a tea spoon, and apricot seeds (I eat 15 a day). Also I began to have a glass of sauerkrout first thing in the morning which is recommanded in budwig...

 

I don't know about black cumin oil, I have to look about that..

 

Thank you for your kindness

Sylviane

 

 

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Friday, April 09, 2010 2:55 AM

Re: please advise: update after adding more iodine

 

Hi Sylviane,What type of breast cancer do you have? By chance is it inflammatory breast cancer? To my knowledge, iodine should not cause this reaction. But to be safe and cover all bases, I have forwarded your post to an iodine expert and as soon as I hear from her, I will get back to you.Now, when one starts to take oleander, it can result in pain in the tumor site, and this is a good thing. It means that the oleander has reached its target.When you receive your oleander order, gradually increase to 8 to 10 capsules daily, as much as you can tolerate. I would also encourage you to incorporate as many of the supplements included on A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol as possible, such as curcumin, black cumin oil, cancer fighting mushroom products such as RM-10. Vitamin B-17 (Laetrile). and just go down the list on the protocol for the other supplements.I would not stop taking the iodine internally. You should be taking 100 mg daily. You may have to work up to this amount, starting at 50 mg.In the meantime, as soon as I hear from my iodine source on any possible side effects and advice, I will post her reply.My Best,

 

 

 

sylviane <sissyv (AT) wanadoo (DOT) fr>oleander soup Sent: Thu, April 8, 2010 11:30:47 AMRe: please advise: update after adding more iodine



Dear Ted, , and all,

 

 

I began to follow the advices recieved but for most I have to wait for my order at utopia to be delivered from US..execpt for geranium tea and increasing lugol ( I didn't want to increase too much untill I recieve selenium) but yet I added 2 drops in my fruit juice with vitamineC in the morning, and then I also had the idea to pain my tumor site on the breast.

 

When I began painting on solar chakra I already mentionned Iexperienced slightly runny nose, hearing like if my ears were stuffy, gum-teeth-jaw pain (not sure if it was related with iodine) and was very tired. When I added 2 drops orally I seldom had same effects, not always, and not worse. I thought I would raise the dose as soon as I get the selenium.

I've been painting my chakra for more than a month now without any problem on my skin, but after 2 weeks that I've been painting my breast on tumor site, here is what happen's happening:

 

After 1 week there was a slight swelling of the lump that I supposed was detox, healing...but after the 2nd week the lump is doubling in size everyday, the breast is itching so much, also the tumor site is very hard and the skin over is weird (feels like if it were covered by a strong varnish) red brunish and covered with lots of little pimples and on the "normal skin" on the breast several pimples that itch too.

I stopped using lugol on my skin, I bathed with hydogen peroxyd, it didn't help, I used aloe vera to calm down the iching (it did but had to it frequently), and also tried to put ozonated olive oil on since yesterday afternoon, maybe this helped because the itching is better (less).

I'm in panic because it is swollen and itchy so I thought first the tumor was developing so quickly.

Now trying to think positively I imagine it could be a detox reaction.

But also the small pimples look like an allergy and this morning I discovered that the place I used to paint on my solar chakra has lot of small red pimples too (but it is not itchy).

 

I'm still taking lugo orally but I wonder if it's Ok or not because of my skin reaction?

I suppose I should stop lugol on the skin, and absolutely on the tumor site, definitively or just a pause?

Do you have any suggestion?

 

At the moment, I'm taking daily:

-1budwig with 2 teaspoon of goat cottage cheese + 1 flaxseed oil (will raise again but I'm out of oil waiting for my order to be delivered)

-3 times 2500mg of vitamin C (1/2 ascorbate, 1/2ALA)

-3 caps of OPC plus

-lugol once 2 drops (painting stopped) = 12 mg in one sirving

-once a day 25drops of H2O2 in a big amount as an enema

- drink all day long tea of geranium "herbe à robert"

waiting for my order to reintroduice oxygen in caps form, and add IP6-inositol, serrapeptase, selenium, and I wanted to increase iodine orally but that' the question?

 

By the way I have only 2 caps OPC+ left, is there any "compensation" I can do if i don't recieve my order tomorrow ?

 

thanks

Sylviane