Metastises

[Guest guest]

I keep reading in various posts how ones learn that their cancer has spread

to other areas, and I'm wondering how do you find this out? Do you keep

getting MRI's or CT scans, or is there a quicker less invasive way. I don't

understand what these 'markers' are that are mentioned either. My doctor has

not used these terms to us.

Thanks,

Sanr

[Guest guest]

Hi Sanr,Metastasis can be detected by an MRI or CT Scan, although because of the high dosage given by a CT Scan, an MRI is preferable. Cancer markers are found in blood and urine tests. These markers are actually substances produced by the tumor.Hope this answers your questions.My Best, s.l-c.o <s.l-c.ooleander soup Sent: Fri, April 2, 2010 6:54:45 AM Metastises

 

 

I keep reading in various posts how ones learn that their cancer has spread

to other areas, and I'm wondering how do you find this out? Do you keep

getting MRI's or CT scans, or is there a quicker less invasive way. I don't

understand what these 'markers' are that are mentioned either. My doctor has

not used these terms to us.

Thanks,

Sanr

[Guest guest]

Thank you ,

 

The doctor has not ordered either an MRI nor a CT but they have taken blood

and urine tests. Nothing was said about the results showing any spread to

other parts of the body. He has had surgery, biopsies and chemo cream, and

as far as it goes now, we see no improvement, only looks worse. I asked the

doctor how they will know if it spread to other places and he said that's a

good question. I don't like what's happening here but I'm going to have to

wait till the next appt, next week to say anything or hear anymore from the

doctor.They've already suggested more invasive surgery like they know this

is not working and they have an agenda. I have just lost my confidence in

them but if I ask for another opinion it will be their choice of another

colleague since we have to go by our healthcare provider to pay the

insurance. So I don't know what good that will do.My husband trusts and just

goes along with the establishment so I feel like a voice in the wilderness.

Thanks,

Sanr

 

 

 

Hi Sanr,

 

Metastasis can be detected by an MRI or CT Scan, although because of the

high dosage given by a CT Scan, an MRI is preferable.

 

Cancer markers are found in blood and urine tests. These markers are

actually substances produced by the tumor.

 

Hope this answers your questions.

 

My Best,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

s.l-c.o <s.l-c.o

oleander soup

Fri, April 2, 2010 6:54:45 AM

Metastises

 

 

I keep reading in various posts how ones learn that their cancer has spread

to other areas, and I'm wondering how do you find this out? Do you keep

getting MRI's or CT scans, or is there a quicker less invasive way. I don't

understand what these 'markers' are that are mentioned either. My doctor has

not used these terms to us.

Thanks,

Sanr

[Guest guest]

Hi Sanr,In some instances, biopsies and surgery actually cause the cancer to spread.What I would suggest doing is following A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol in its entirety, or as much of it as possible. This protocol focuses on the oleander extract which has strong anti-cancer and immune strengthening supplements. However, the rest of the supplements and lifestyle recommendations are just as important. Oleander is 90% effective in Stage I and II cancers and 85% effective in Stages III and IV. But a complete healthy lifestyle must also be followed. My Best,s.l-c.o <s.l-c.ooleander soup Sent: Fri, April 2, 2010 10:08:28 AMRe: Metastises

 

 

Thank you ,

 

The doctor has not ordered either an MRI nor a CT but they have taken blood

and urine tests. Nothing was said about the results showing any spread to

other parts of the body. He has had surgery, biopsies and chemo cream, and

as far as it goes now, we see no improvement, only looks worse. I asked the

doctor how they will know if it spread to other places and he said that's a

good question. I don't like what's happening here but I'm going to have to

wait till the next appt, next week to say anything or hear anymore from the

doctor.They' ve already suggested more invasive surgery like they know this

is not working and they have an agenda. I have just lost my confidence in

them but if I ask for another opinion it will be their choice of another

colleague since we have to go by our healthcare provider to pay the

insurance. So I don't know what good that will do.My husband trusts and just

goes along with the establishment so I feel like a voice in the wilderness.

Thanks,

Sanr

[Guest guest]



I don't know if this is true but I have read and heard many times that PET Scans are the least assault on the body as far as radiation goes.

 

Tammatha

 

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s.l-c.o

oleander soup

Friday, April 02, 2010 8:08 AM

Re: Metastises

Thank you ,The doctor has not ordered either an MRI nor a CT but they have taken blood and urine tests. Nothing was said about the results showing any spread to other parts of the body. He has had surgery, biopsies and chemo cream, and as far as it goes now, we see no improvement, only looks worse. I asked the doctor how they will know if it spread to other places and he said that's a good question. I don't like what's happening here but I'm going to have to wait till the next appt, next week to say anything or hear anymore from the doctor.They've already suggested more invasive surgery like they know this is not working and they have an agenda. I have just lost my confidence in them but if I ask for another opinion it will be their choice of another colleague since we have to go by our healthcare provider to pay the insurance. So I don't know what good that will do.My husband trusts and just goes along with the establishment so I feel like a voice in the wilderness.Thanks,SanrHi Sanr,Metastasis can be detected by an MRI or CT Scan, although because of the high dosage given by a CT Scan, an MRI is preferable.Cancer markers are found in blood and urine tests. These markers are actually substances produced by the tumor.Hope this answers your questions.My Best,________________________________s.l-c.o <s.l-c.o (AT) charter (DOT) net>oleander soup Sent: Fri, April 2, 2010 6:54:45 AM MetastisesI keep reading in various posts how ones learn that their cancer has spreadto other areas, and I'm wondering how do you find this out? Do you keepgetting MRI's or CT scans, or is there a quicker less invasive way. I don'tunderstand what these 'markers' are that are mentioned either. My doctor hasnot used these terms to us.Thanks,Sanr

[Guest guest]

I believe it is called CA-153 on your bloodwork Sanr.

 

Tammatha

 

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s.l-c.o

oleander soup

Friday, April 02, 2010 4:54 AM

Metastises

I keep reading in various posts how ones learn that their cancer has spread to other areas, and I'm wondering how do you find this out? Do you keep getting MRI's or CT scans, or is there a quicker less invasive way. I don't understand what these 'markers' are that are mentioned either. My doctor has not used these terms to us.Thanks,Sanr

[Guest guest]

From Medline Plus: The amount of radiation used in a PET scan

is low. It is about the same amount of radiation as in most CT scans.  (Understand that conventional medicine does

not believe that x-rays harm).

 

Then read: Like One Hundred X-Rays? Exposure

Involved With CT Scans

 

Be Well

Dr.L

 

 

[Guest guest]



About the same, but still less.....every little bit (less) helps.

 

Tammatha

 

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Dr. Loretta Lanphier

oleander soup

Friday, April 02, 2010 6:36 PM

RE: Metastises

 

 

From Medline Plus: The amount of radiation used in a PET scan is low. It is about the same amount of radiation as in most CT scans. (Understand that conventional medicine does not believe that x-rays harm).Then read: Like One Hundred X-Rays? Exposure Involved With CT ScansBe WellDr.L

[Guest guest]

My Dr. tells me that scans are expensive, I have no medical insurance and he won't order a Pet scan or

an MRI, any suggestions? I called the free clinic a few years ago they told me that I have to have a job and be working

in order to quailify for free care.

I was diagnosed with bladder carcinoma in 2007, later they found a spot on my lung. The only testing that i've had done

is blood work to check my kidneys, liver, etc...

Barbara

[Guest guest]

On 4/3/2010 8:29 AM, bk4529 wrote:

>

>

> My Dr. tells me that scans are expensive, I have no medical insurance

> and he won't order a Pet scan or

> an MRI, any suggestions? I called the free clinic a few years ago they

> told me that I have to have a job and be working

> in order to quailify for free care.

> I was diagnosed with bladder carcinoma in 2007, later they found a spot

> on my lung. The only testing that i've had done

> is blood work to check my kidneys, liver, etc...

> Barbara

 

Get in touch with Social Services in your county. Many have at least

some medical coverage for those of us not working. I get MRI's covered

totally by my county, same with doctors and pay $1 for prescriptions.

Some of the care is really bad but that goes for those with expensive

insurance as well.

 

Cyndi

[Guest guest]

I think I have breast cancer mets to my spine. Will this paralyze me?

Thanks Robyn --- On Fri, 4/2/10, May <luellamay129 wrote:

May <luellamay129Re: Metastisesoleander soup Date: Friday, April 2, 2010, 9:48 AM

 

Hi Sanr,In some instances, biopsies and surgery actually cause the cancer to spread.What I would suggest doing is following A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol in its entirety, or as much of it as possible. This protocol focuses on the oleander extract which has strong anti-cancer and immune strengthening supplements. However, the rest of the supplements and lifestyle recommendations are just as important. Oleander is 90% effective in Stage I and II cancers and 85% effective in Stages III and IV. But a complete healthy lifestyle must also be followed. My Best,

 

 

 

 

s.l-c.o <s.l-c.o (AT) charter (DOT) net>oleander soupFri, April 2, 2010 10:08:28 AMRe: Metastises

Thank you ,The doctor has not ordered either an MRI nor a CT but they have taken blood and urine tests. Nothing was said about the results showing any spread to other parts of the body. He has had surgery, biopsies and chemo cream, and as far as it goes now, we see no improvement, only looks worse. I asked the doctor how they will know if it spread to other places and he said that's a good question. I don't like what's happening here but I'm going to have to wait till the next appt, next week to say anything or hear anymore from the doctor.They' ve already suggested more invasive surgery like they know this is not working and they have an agenda. I have just lost my confidence in them but if I ask for another opinion it will be their choice of another colleague since we have to go by our healthcare provider to pay the insurance. So I don't know what good that will do.My husband trusts and

just goes along with the establishment so I feel like a voice in the wilderness.Thanks,Sanr

[Guest guest]



Hi Robyn,

I have the same thing. I was in the hospital for ten days almost died. I was diagnosed with the breast cancer back in June 2006, it metastasized to my bones (spine) last June. Yes, it can paralyze. If the bones become brittle enough and start breaking, I'm told it is the worse pain one can experience. When I went to emergency last June I could not walk or stand upright, it was the worse pain in the worls and can't even convey the excrutiating pain that I experience, it was a nightmare to remember. Amazingly I walked out of the hospital, never thought it was going to happen. I laid there ten days filled with Dilaudid, it is stronger than Morphine. Not sure how I walked out, the only they they did for me was the pain killer and a blood tranfusion oh... and also drained my lungs they filled up with fluid from the cancer. I'm doing really well right now, but you have to completely change your lifestyle.

 

Tammatha

 

-

robyn howell

oleander soup

Saturday, April 03, 2010 8:48 PM

Re: Metastises

 

 

 

 

 

I think I have breast cancer mets to my spine. Will this paralyze me?

Thanks Robyn --- On Fri, 4/2/10, May <luellamay129 > wrote:

May <luellamay129 >Re: Metastisesoleander soup Date: Friday, April 2, 2010, 9:48 AM

 

Hi Sanr,In some instances, biopsies and surgery actually cause the cancer to spread.What I would suggest doing is following A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol in its entirety, or as much of it as possible. This protocol focuses on the oleander extract which has strong anti-cancer and immune strengthening supplements. However, the rest of the supplements and lifestyle recommendations are just as important. Oleander is 90% effective in Stage I and II cancers and 85% effective in Stages III and IV. But a complete healthy lifestyle must also be followed. My Best,

 

 

 

s.l-c.o <s.l-c.o (AT) charter (DOT) net>oleander soupFri, April 2, 2010 10:08:28 AMRe: Metastises

Thank you ,The doctor has not ordered either an MRI nor a CT but they have taken blood and urine tests. Nothing was said about the results showing any spread to other parts of the body. He has had surgery, biopsies and chemo cream, and as far as it goes now, we see no improvement, only looks worse. I asked the doctor how they will know if it spread to other places and he said that's a good question. I don't like what's happening here but I'm going to have to wait till the next appt, next week to say anything or hear anymore from the doctor.They' ve already suggested more invasive surgery like they know this is not working and they have an agenda. I have just lost my confidence in them but if I ask for another opinion it will be their choice of another colleague since we have to go by our healthcare provider to pay the insurance. So I don't know what good that will do.My husband trusts and just goes along with the establishment so I feel like a voice in the wilderness.Thanks,Sanr

[Guest guest]



Tammatha,

 

Are you following Tony's protocol?

 

Bob

 

-

Tammatha Brown

oleander soup

Saturday, April 03, 2010 9:16 PM

Re: Metastises

 Hi Robyn,

I have the same thing. I was in the hospital for ten days almost died. I was diagnosed with the breast cancer back in June 2006, it metastasized to my bones (spine) last June. Yes, it can paralyze. If the bones become brittle enough and start breaking, I'm told it is the worse pain one can experience. When I went to emergency last June I could not walk or stand upright, it was the worse pain in the worls and can't even convey the excrutiating pain that I experience, it was a nightmare to remember. Amazingly I walked out of the hospital, never thought it was going to happen. I laid there ten days filled with Dilaudid, it is stronger than Morphine. Not sure how I walked out, the only they they did for me was the pain killer and a blood tranfusion oh... and also drained my lungs they filled up with fluid from the cancer. I'm doing really well right now, but you have to completely change your lifestyle.

 

Tammatha

 

-

robyn howell

oleander soup

Saturday, April 03, 2010 8:48 PM

Re: Metastises

 

 

 

 

 

I think I have breast cancer mets to my spine. Will this paralyze me?

Thanks Robyn --- On Fri, 4/2/10, May <luellamay129 > wrote:

May <luellamay129 >Re: Metastisesoleander soup Date: Friday, April 2, 2010, 9:48 AM

 

Hi Sanr,In some instances, biopsies and surgery actually cause the cancer to spread.What I would suggest doing is following A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol in its entirety, or as much of it as possible. This protocol focuses on the oleander extract which has strong anti-cancer and immune strengthening supplements. However, the rest of the supplements and lifestyle recommendations are just as important. Oleander is 90% effective in Stage I and II cancers and 85% effective in Stages III and IV. But a complete healthy lifestyle must also be followed. My Best,

 

 

 

s.l-c.o <s.l-c.o (AT) charter (DOT) net>oleander soupFri, April 2, 2010 10:08:28 AMRe: Metastises

Thank you ,The doctor has not ordered either an MRI nor a CT but they have taken blood and urine tests. Nothing was said about the results showing any spread to other parts of the body. He has had surgery, biopsies and chemo cream, and as far as it goes now, we see no improvement, only looks worse. I asked the doctor how they will know if it spread to other places and he said that's a good question. I don't like what's happening here but I'm going to have to wait till the next appt, next week to say anything or hear anymore from the doctor.They' ve already suggested more invasive surgery like they know this is not working and they have an agenda. I have just lost my confidence in them but if I ask for another opinion it will be their choice of another colleague since we have to go by our healthcare provider to pay the insurance. So I don't know what good that will do.My husband trusts and just goes along with the establishment so I feel like a voice in the wilderness.Thanks,Sanr

[Guest guest]



Hi Bob,

Not to the letter, but many parts of it I incorporate. There are additional things that I do such as Colon Hydrotherapy which I believe is crucial for every cancer person. Only way to get out all of the toxins and die off and keep the liver and organs detoxed.

 

Tammatha

 

-

Bob Banever

oleander soup

Saturday, April 03, 2010 10:37 PM

Re: Metastises

 Tammatha,

 

Are you following Tony's protocol?

 

Bob

 

-

Tammatha Brown

oleander soup

Saturday, April 03, 2010 9:16 PM

Re: Metastises

 Hi Robyn,

I have the same thing. I was in the hospital for ten days almost died. I was diagnosed with the breast cancer back in June 2006, it metastasized to my bones (spine) last June. Yes, it can paralyze. If the bones become brittle enough and start breaking, I'm told it is the worse pain one can experience. When I went to emergency last June I could not walk or stand upright, it was the worse pain in the worls and can't even convey the excrutiating pain that I experience, it was a nightmare to remember. Amazingly I walked out of the hospital, never thought it was going to happen. I laid there ten days filled with Dilaudid, it is stronger than Morphine. Not sure how I walked out, the only they they did for me was the pain killer and a blood tranfusion oh... and also drained my lungs they filled up with fluid from the cancer. I'm doing really well right now, but you have to completely change your lifestyle.

 

Tammatha

 

-

robyn howell

oleander soup

Saturday, April 03, 2010 8:48 PM

Re: Metastises

 

 

 

 

 

I think I have breast cancer mets to my spine. Will this paralyze me?

Thanks Robyn --- On Fri, 4/2/10, May <luellamay129 > wrote:

May <luellamay129 >Re: Metastisesoleander soup Date: Friday, April 2, 2010, 9:48 AM

 

Hi Sanr,In some instances, biopsies and surgery actually cause the cancer to spread.What I would suggest doing is following A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol in its entirety, or as much of it as possible. This protocol focuses on the oleander extract which has strong anti-cancer and immune strengthening supplements. However, the rest of the supplements and lifestyle recommendations are just as important. Oleander is 90% effective in Stage I and II cancers and 85% effective in Stages III and IV. But a complete healthy lifestyle must also be followed. My Best,

 

 

 

s.l-c.o <s.l-c.o (AT) charter (DOT) net>oleander soupFri, April 2, 2010 10:08:28 AMRe: Metastises

Thank you ,The doctor has not ordered either an MRI nor a CT but they have taken blood and urine tests. Nothing was said about the results showing any spread to other parts of the body. He has had surgery, biopsies and chemo cream, and as far as it goes now, we see no improvement, only looks worse. I asked the doctor how they will know if it spread to other places and he said that's a good question. I don't like what's happening here but I'm going to have to wait till the next appt, next week to say anything or hear anymore from the doctor.They' ve already suggested more invasive surgery like they know this is not working and they have an agenda. I have just lost my confidence in them but if I ask for another opinion it will be their choice of another colleague since we have to go by our healthcare provider to pay the insurance. So I don't know what good that will do.My husband trusts and just goes along with the establishment so I feel like a voice in the wilderness.Thanks,Sanr

[Guest guest]

Robyn,How much of A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol are you following?robyn howell <robynehowelloleander soup Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 10:48:44 PMRe: Metastises

 

 

I think I have breast cancer mets to my spine. Will this paralyze me?

Thanks Robyn --- On Fri, 4/2/10, May <luellamay129@ > wrote:

May <luellamay129@ >Re: Metastisesoleander soupFriday, April 2, 2010, 9:48 AM

 

Hi Sanr,In some instances, biopsies and surgery actually cause the cancer to spread.What I would suggest doing is following A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol in its entirety, or as much of it as possible. This protocol focuses on the oleander extract which has strong anti-cancer and immune strengthening supplements. However, the rest of the supplements and lifestyle recommendations are just as important. Oleander is 90% effective in Stage I and II cancers and 85% effective in Stages III and IV. But a complete healthy lifestyle must also be followed. My Best,

 

 

 

 

s.l-c.o <s.l-c.o (AT) charter (DOT) net>oleander soupFri, April 2, 2010 10:08:28 AMRe: Metastises

Thank you ,The doctor has not ordered either an MRI nor a CT but they have taken blood and urine tests. Nothing was said about the results showing any spread to other parts of the body. He has had surgery, biopsies and chemo cream, and as far as it goes now, we see no improvement, only looks worse. I asked the doctor how they will know if it spread to other places and he said that's a good question. I don't like what's happening here but I'm going to have to wait till the next appt, next week to say anything or hear anymore from the doctor.They' ve already suggested more invasive surgery like they know this is not working and they have an agenda. I have just lost my confidence in them but if I ask for another opinion it will be their choice of another colleague since we have to go by our healthcare provider to pay the insurance. So I don't know what good that will do.My husband trusts and

just goes along with the establishment so I feel like a voice in the wilderness.Thanks,Sanr

[Guest guest]



Tammatha,

 

Thanks and best of luck to you.

 

-

Tammatha Brown

oleander soup

Sunday, April 04, 2010 3:59 PM

Re: Metastises

 Hi Bob,

Not to the letter, but many parts of it I incorporate. There are additional things that I do such as Colon Hydrotherapy which I believe is crucial for every cancer person. Only way to get out all of the toxins and die off and keep the liver and organs detoxed.

 

Tammatha

 

-

Bob Banever

oleander soup

Saturday, April 03, 2010 10:37 PM

Re: Metastises

 Tammatha,

 

Are you following Tony's protocol?

 

Bob

 

-

Tammatha Brown

oleander soup

Saturday, April 03, 2010 9:16 PM

Re: Metastises

 Hi Robyn,

I have the same thing. I was in the hospital for ten days almost died. I was diagnosed with the breast cancer back in June 2006, it metastasized to my bones (spine) last June. Yes, it can paralyze. If the bones become brittle enough and start breaking, I'm told it is the worse pain one can experience. When I went to emergency last June I could not walk or stand upright, it was the worse pain in the worls and can't even convey the excrutiating pain that I experience, it was a nightmare to remember. Amazingly I walked out of the hospital, never thought it was going to happen. I laid there ten days filled with Dilaudid, it is stronger than Morphine. Not sure how I walked out, the only they they did for me was the pain killer and a blood tranfusion oh... and also drained my lungs they filled up with fluid from the cancer. I'm doing really well right now, but you have to completely change your lifestyle.

 

Tammatha

 

-

robyn howell

oleander soup

Saturday, April 03, 2010 8:48 PM

Re: Metastises

 

 

 

 

 

I think I have breast cancer mets to my spine. Will this paralyze me?

Thanks Robyn --- On Fri, 4/2/10, May <luellamay129 > wrote:

May <luellamay129 >Re: Metastisesoleander soup Date: Friday, April 2, 2010, 9:48 AM

 

Hi Sanr,In some instances, biopsies and surgery actually cause the cancer to spread.What I would suggest doing is following A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol in its entirety, or as much of it as possible. This protocol focuses on the oleander extract which has strong anti-cancer and immune strengthening supplements. However, the rest of the supplements and lifestyle recommendations are just as important. Oleander is 90% effective in Stage I and II cancers and 85% effective in Stages III and IV. But a complete healthy lifestyle must also be followed. My Best,

 

 

 

s.l-c.o <s.l-c.o (AT) charter (DOT) net>oleander soupFri, April 2, 2010 10:08:28 AMRe: Metastises

Thank you ,The doctor has not ordered either an MRI nor a CT but they have taken blood and urine tests. Nothing was said about the results showing any spread to other parts of the body. He has had surgery, biopsies and chemo cream, and as far as it goes now, we see no improvement, only looks worse. I asked the doctor how they will know if it spread to other places and he said that's a good question. I don't like what's happening here but I'm going to have to wait till the next appt, next week to say anything or hear anymore from the doctor.They' ve already suggested more invasive surgery like they know this is not working and they have an agenda. I have just lost my confidence in them but if I ask for another opinion it will be their choice of another colleague since we have to go by our healthcare provider to pay the insurance. So I don't know what good that will do.My husband trusts and just goes along with the establishment so I feel like a voice in the wilderness.Thanks,Sanr

[Guest guest]



Thank you Bob.

 

Tammatha

 

-

Bob Banever

oleander soup

Sunday, April 04, 2010 6:52 PM

Re: Metastises

 Tammatha,

 

Thanks and best of luck to you.

 

-

Tammatha Brown

oleander soup

Sunday, April 04, 2010 3:59 PM

Re: Metastises

 Hi Bob,

Not to the letter, but many parts of it I incorporate. There are additional things that I do such as Colon Hydrotherapy which I believe is crucial for every cancer person. Only way to get out all of the toxins and die off and keep the liver and organs detoxed.

 

Tammatha

 

-

Bob Banever

oleander soup

Saturday, April 03, 2010 10:37 PM

Re: Metastises

 Tammatha,

 

Are you following Tony's protocol?

 

Bob

 

-

Tammatha Brown

oleander soup

Saturday, April 03, 2010 9:16 PM

Re: Metastises

 Hi Robyn,

I have the same thing. I was in the hospital for ten days almost died. I was diagnosed with the breast cancer back in June 2006, it metastasized to my bones (spine) last June. Yes, it can paralyze. If the bones become brittle enough and start breaking, I'm told it is the worse pain one can experience. When I went to emergency last June I could not walk or stand upright, it was the worse pain in the worls and can't even convey the excrutiating pain that I experience, it was a nightmare to remember. Amazingly I walked out of the hospital, never thought it was going to happen. I laid there ten days filled with Dilaudid, it is stronger than Morphine. Not sure how I walked out, the only they they did for me was the pain killer and a blood tranfusion oh... and also drained my lungs they filled up with fluid from the cancer. I'm doing really well right now, but you have to completely change your lifestyle.

 

Tammatha

 

-

robyn howell

oleander soup

Saturday, April 03, 2010 8:48 PM

Re: Metastises

 

 

 

 

 

I think I have breast cancer mets to my spine. Will this paralyze me?

Thanks Robyn --- On Fri, 4/2/10, May <luellamay129 > wrote:

May <luellamay129 >Re: Metastisesoleander soup Date: Friday, April 2, 2010, 9:48 AM

 

Hi Sanr,In some instances, biopsies and surgery actually cause the cancer to spread.What I would suggest doing is following A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol in its entirety, or as much of it as possible. This protocol focuses on the oleander extract which has strong anti-cancer and immune strengthening supplements. However, the rest of the supplements and lifestyle recommendations are just as important. Oleander is 90% effective in Stage I and II cancers and 85% effective in Stages III and IV. But a complete healthy lifestyle must also be followed. My Best,

 

 

 

s.l-c.o <s.l-c.o (AT) charter (DOT) net>oleander soupFri, April 2, 2010 10:08:28 AMRe: Metastises

Thank you ,The doctor has not ordered either an MRI nor a CT but they have taken blood and urine tests. Nothing was said about the results showing any spread to other parts of the body. He has had surgery, biopsies and chemo cream, and as far as it goes now, we see no improvement, only looks worse. I asked the doctor how they will know if it spread to other places and he said that's a good question. I don't like what's happening here but I'm going to have to wait till the next appt, next week to say anything or hear anymore from the doctor.They' ve already suggested more invasive surgery like they know this is not working and they have an agenda. I have just lost my confidence in them but if I ask for another opinion it will be their choice of another colleague since we have to go by our healthcare provider to pay the insurance. So I don't know what good that will do.My husband trusts and just goes along with the establishment so I feel like a voice in the wilderness.Thanks,Sanr

[Guest guest]

For the last 2 years I have been doing budwig about 70 percent, plus essiac, plus some other supplements. Still have way to much stress. The last couple of months I have been drinking about 80 ounces vegetable juice a day. May <luellamay129oleander soup Sent: Sun, April 4, 2010 5:50:25 PMRe: Metastises

 

 

Robyn,How much of A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol are you following?robyn howell <robynehowell@ >oleander soupSat, April 3, 2010 10:48:44 PMRe: Metastises

 

 

I think I have breast cancer mets to my spine. Will this paralyze me?

Thanks Robyn --- On Fri, 4/2/10, May <luellamay129@ > wrote:

May <luellamay129@ >Re: Metastisesoleander soupFriday, April 2, 2010, 9:48 AM

 

Hi Sanr,In some instances, biopsies and surgery actually cause the cancer to spread.What I would suggest doing is following A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol in its entirety, or as much of it as possible. This protocol focuses on the oleander extract which has strong anti-cancer and immune strengthening supplements. However, the rest of the supplements and lifestyle recommendations are just as important. Oleander is 90% effective in Stage I and II cancers and 85% effective in Stages III and IV. But a complete healthy lifestyle must also be followed. My Best,

 

 

 

 

s.l-c.o <s.l-c.o (AT) charter (DOT) net>oleander soupFri, April 2, 2010 10:08:28 AMRe: Metastises

Thank you ,The doctor has not ordered either an MRI nor a CT but they have taken blood and urine tests. Nothing was said about the results showing any spread to other parts of the body. He has had surgery, biopsies and chemo cream, and as far as it goes now, we see no improvement, only looks worse. I asked the doctor how they will know if it spread to other places and he said that's a good question. I don't like what's happening here but I'm going to have to wait till the next appt, next week to say anything or hear anymore from the doctor.They' ve already suggested more invasive surgery like they know this is not working and they have an agenda. I have just lost my confidence in them but if I ask for another opinion it will be their choice of another colleague since we have to go by our healthcare provider to pay the insurance. So I don't know what good that will do.My husband trusts and

just goes along with the establishment so I feel like a voice in the wilderness.Thanks,Sanr

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Robyn,I would recommend that if you feel that your cancer is metastasizing that you incorporate as much of A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol as possible. In fact, all of it would be ideal. I would also make sure to take oleander, the focus of the protocol. Budwig is part of the protocol and Essaic is good, but when it comes to cancer, you really can't leave a stone unturned. What other supplements are you taking, and is there some way you can relieve the stress in your life? Hugs,robyn howell <robynehowelloleander soup Sent: Sun, April 4, 2010 9:46:18 PMRe: Metastises

 

 

For the last 2 years I have been doing budwig about 70 percent, plus essiac, plus some other supplements. Still have way to much stress. The last couple of months I have been drinking about 80 ounces vegetable juice a day.

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Robyn -

is right - follow as much of the protocol as you can and work yourself up to the maximum tolerated amount of oleander daily (which would be up to 10 capsules of the SOPC or 8 capsules of the OPC Plus based on a body weight of 150 to 200 pounds). Cancer can be very dose dependent when it comes to getting the best results with oleander, especially more difficult and/or aggressive cancers. I am extremely high on Budwig as well, but sometimes you need more than that. Budwig and oleander work very well together and a particularly good combo for breast cancer when combined with iodine and methylselenocysteine. Oleander has also been very, very good with cancers that have mets to bones and other locations.

Essiac is, in my opinion as well as others such as Cancertutor's Webster Kehr, very good to have as an element in an overall cancer fighting protocol, primarily due to it's cleansing properities, but by itself we do not consider it a strong cancer fighter.

Leave no stone unturned - at least when it comes to the items in the suggested protocol. For some people it may be more than needed, but for others it may take every bit of it - and when your very life depends on it I think it should be "all in".

Do whatever it takes to lessen that stress too. If that means eliminating people and places that are stressful, so be it. Stress will hinder recovery and it is not called "the silent killer" for nothing. Practice meditation or yoga, EFT, etc. Try to make your home, or at least part of it, a safe haven from stress. See my article:

How to Make Your Home a Haven

All the best and don't hesitate to ask any questions you have. We are here for you!

oleander soup , robyn howell <robynehowell wrote:>> For the last 2 years I have been doing budwig about 70 percent, plus essiac, plus some other supplements. Still have way to much stress. The last couple of months I have been drinking about 80 ounces vegetable juice a day.> > > > > > ________________________________> May luellamay129 oleander soup > Sun, April 4, 2010 5:50:25 PM> Re: Metastises> > > Robyn,> > How much of A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol are you following?> > > > > > > ________________________________> robyn howell <robynehowell@ >> oleander soup> Sat, April 3, 2010 10:48:44 PM> Re: Metastises> > > I think I have breast cancer mets to my spine. Will this paralyze me?> Thanks Robyn > > --- On Fri, 4/2/10, May <luellamay129@ > wrote:> > > > May <luellamay129@ >> >Re: Metastises> >oleander soup> >Friday, April 2, 2010, 9:48 AM> >> >> > > >Hi Sanr,> >> >In some instances, biopsies and surgery actually cause the cancer to spread.> >> >What I would suggest doing is following A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol in its entirety, or as much of it as possible. This protocol focuses on the oleander extract which has strong anti-cancer and immune strengthening supplements. However, the rest of the supplements and lifestyle recommendations are just as important. Oleander is 90% effective in Stage I and II cancers and 85% effective in Stages III and IV. But a complete healthy lifestyle must also be followed. > >> >My Best,> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________> s.l-c.o s.l-c.o (AT) charter (DOT) net>> >oleander soup> >Fri, April 2, 2010 10:08:28 AM> >Re: Metastises> >> > > >Thank you ,> >> >The doctor has not ordered either an MRI nor a CT but they have taken blood > >and urine tests. Nothing was said about the results showing any spread to > >other parts of the body. He has had surgery, biopsies and chemo cream, and > >as far as it goes now, we see no improvement, only looks worse. I asked the > >doctor how they will know if it spread to other places and he said that's a > >good question. I don't like what's happening here but I'm going to have to > >wait till the next appt, next week to say anything or hear anymore from the > >doctor.They' ve already suggested more invasive surgery like they know this > >is not working and they have an agenda. I have just lost my confidence in > >them but if I ask for another opinion it will be their choice of another > >colleague since we have to go by our healthcare provider to pay the > >insurance. So I don't know what good that will do.My husband trusts and> > just > >goes along with the establishment so I feel like a voice in the wilderness.> >Thanks,> >Sanr> >> >> >> >>