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Guest guest Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Hello all, I hope some will be able to give me an advice or a helpful feedback as I'm anxious how to control my breast tumor. I suppose the first thing is to introduce the history inshort: Backgroung: When I was younger (around 30) I had a depression treated by official medecine (so you can imagine all the drugs I swallowed at this time! since then I have pb to control my weigth) but I finally resolved with psychotherapy. Now I'm 43. Actual problem: I've been diagnosed a breast tumor 7 years ago. First doctor said it was a "mastose" (not sure in english) due to stress. Radiologist said a tumor to be cut out urgently and analysed to check if cancerous. I didn't go to any doctor with this mamography results and instead consulted a naturopath recomanded by a friend of mine because she has been succesful with lot of serious deseases... She checked with a group of radionicians and they say it was not a cancer and should not be remove, at least not at the moment that my general health was not good. First protocol really helped me with to be in better shape and almost rid me of sinusitis and cystitis that I had so often! Then she kept on changing the treatments as my breast were sometime better sometimes worse but through monthes and years it has been worse: at the beginning I could just feel sth hard and hardly see it in the miror, later the breast was firmer, and after I noticed my breast was smaller and I could see sth and feel like pea. Now on my breast near the nipple I can see like a bean (sometimes it is red) and the skin immediately around is slightly dimpled, and at the limit of the dimpled skin, there is a hollow. (very difficult to describe specially that english is not may mother thongue!) Some symptoms make me fear IBC and untill now neither the naturopath nor myself, seeking on the internet since september, have improve... I was about to decide to see a doctor (the only one near my place recommanded by beljanski organization, with the hope he will use as much as he can non agressive therapy but also I was prepare to go under whatever he says even chemo/radio/surgery), when I read about hydrogen peroxyde. I decided to do a last try with this protocol. Since october I raised until 3 times 25 drops and my breast was better but each time I reduce H2O2, my breast becomes painful, firm, the "bean" turns red, the hollow deeper... I also try to add an enema with H2O2 every day and it helps. So H2O2 helps but doesn't heal... At the end of january I was anxious again when I discovered some natural powerful therapies in Cancer and chose the oleander protocol. I began the budwig cream for breakfast (from 1 flax oil tablespoon, I raised until 3, I feel i couldn't eat more). Then on the first week of febrary I did the liver cleanse, the only point is that I mistook grape with grapefruit so I mixed grape juice with oil last thing before going to bed: I had diarrhea in the evening while taking epsom salt, I slept fine and continue diarrhea the other day, but it didn't really stop. I was on a journey in egypt when I began the OPC plus. Somedays I had diarrhea and others constipation but I didn't know if it was because of the cleanse, because of the food, because of travelling.... One good thing during the stay is that I had, since last year, a pimple that I couldn't get rid of(even whith thuja essential oil or 3% hydrogen peroxyd) on my chest, and as I was taking grapefruit seed extract in beverages, I rubed some on my pimple and in a few days it made a crust and fell ! Back in France mid-february my breast was bad, I was still on diarrhea, all the same I started vitamin C. On march 1st, I began using lugol (paint my solar chakra with 2 drops). Now I have daily: -1budwig with 6 tablespoon of goat cottage cheese + 3 flaxseed oil (how can I replace when travelling? flaxseed oil caps? how much?) -3 times 2g of vitamin C -2 times 2 caps of OPC plus (I try morning+lunch but somtimes it's too close, when I have morning+evening I sleep bad. NB sometimes I have pain in my teeth or gums or jaw after the 2nd sirving) -1 lugol painting with 2 drops -morning and evening I rub my breast with vitafons onguent + thuja occidentalis essential oil -one minute breast lymphatic massage -2 or 3 times 25drops of H2O2 in a big amount of water + when I can an enema with the same Is there sth else I should add or try instead (was thinking about IP6-inositol,serrapeptase, selenium, but i don't want to swallow billions of pills for nothing or even create negative interaction!) ? Or chage some doses?...or...??? Can I still hope to heal naturally or should I consult this doctor...? If sth is unclear please ask, I'll try to put things in other words... I hope to receive some helpful feedback... Sylviane (from France) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 Hi Sylviane,Did I understand that you are taking two Oleander capsules twice a day? With regard to the constant diarrhea, when did you start taking them? Also, did you increase the dosage gradually, or did you start by taking the full amount?Besides taking oleander faithfully, I would suggest that you include the supplements found in A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol. Inositol/IP6 is a very powerful anti-cancer supplement. So is serrapeptase. Serrapteptase is thought to play an important role in dissolving the outer protective layer of cancer cells and tumors, allowing the immune system to be more effective in eliminating them. Let me refer you to the following article:/Enzymes.htm I know that taking loads of supplements can be very tiring, but I assure you it is not a waste of time. The supplements found in A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol are very effective anti-cancer and immune strengthening supplements, and I would encourage to follow the entire protocol not leaving a single stone unturned.As for how to handle the Budwig Diet while traveling.......... Maybe some time of case that contains a cooler? By the way, your English is very good. And we welcome you to our group.My Best, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 sylviane, I'm glad you are sharing your History with us. It may help others as well. After what all you have been trying and have not seen an improvement yet, I'm wondering if the Tumor is something other than Cancer? I had what I thought was a Tumor and it was growing fast. It turned out to be a Type of Cyst containing Fat deposits. It was removed easily. I'm Not saying you may have this, just not sure what would of happened if I had not had it removed and tried the Various Protocols as you have? Makes me Wonder?? The other thought is maybe try Bob Beck's Protocol? Maybe a Magnetic Pulser? Please keep us Posted with your progress. So many that have success sometimes never let us know that they are all better. They just enjoy life and some of us wonder how they are doing? Ron oleander soup , " sylviane " <sissyv wrote: > > Hello all, > I hope some will be able to give me an advice or a helpful feedback as I'm anxious how to control my breast tumor. > I suppose the first thing is to introduce the history inshort: > Backgroung: When I was younger (around 30) I had a depression treated by official medecine (so you can imagine all the drugs I swallowed at this time! since then I have pb to control my weigth) but I finally resolved with psychotherapy. Now I'm 43. > Actual problem: I've been diagnosed a breast tumor 7 years ago. First doctor said it was a " mastose " (not sure in english) due to stress. Radiologist said a tumor to be cut out urgently and analysed to check if cancerous. I didn't go to any doctor with this mamography results and instead consulted a naturopath recomanded by a friend of mine because she has been succesful with lot of serious deseases... > She checked with a group of radionicians and they say it was not a cancer and should not be remove, at least not at the moment that my general health was not good. > First protocol really helped me with to be in better shape and almost rid me of sinusitis and cystitis that I had so often! > Then she kept on changing the treatments as my breast were sometime better sometimes worse but through monthes and years it has been worse: at the beginning I could just feel sth hard and hardly see it in the miror, later the breast was firmer, and after I noticed my breast was smaller and I could see sth and feel like pea. Now on my breast near the nipple I can see like a bean (sometimes it is red) and the skin immediately around is slightly dimpled, and at the limit of the dimpled skin, there is a hollow. (very difficult to describe specially that english is not may mother thongue!) > Some symptoms make me fear IBC and untill now neither the naturopath nor myself, seeking on the internet since september, have improve... > > I was about to decide to see a doctor (the only one near my place recommanded by beljanski organization, with the hope he will use as much as he can non agressive therapy but also I was prepare to go under whatever he says even chemo/radio/surgery), when I read about hydrogen peroxyde. I decided to do a last try with this protocol. Since october I raised until 3 times 25 drops and my breast was better but each time I reduce H2O2, my breast becomes painful, firm, the " bean " turns red, the hollow deeper... I also try to add an enema with H2O2 every day and it helps. So H2O2 helps but doesn't heal... > At the end of january I was anxious again when I discovered some natural powerful therapies in Cancer and chose the oleander protocol. I began the budwig cream for breakfast (from 1 flax oil tablespoon, I raised until 3, I feel i couldn't eat more). Then on the first week of febrary I did the liver cleanse, the only point is that I mistook grape with grapefruit so I mixed grape juice with oil last thing before going to bed: I had diarrhea in the evening while taking epsom salt, I slept fine and continue diarrhea the other day, but it didn't really stop. I was on a journey in egypt when I began the OPC plus. Somedays I had diarrhea and others constipation but I didn't know if it was because of the cleanse, because of the food, because of travelling.... One good thing during the stay is that I had, since last year, a pimple that I couldn't get rid of(even whith thuja essential oil or 3% hydrogen peroxyd) on my chest, and as I was taking grapefruit seed extract in beverages, I rubed some on my pimple and in a few days it made a crust and fell ! Back in France mid-february my breast was bad, I was still on diarrhea, all the same I started vitamin C. On march 1st, I began using lugol (paint my solar chakra with 2 drops). > Now I have daily: > -1budwig with 6 tablespoon of goat cottage cheese + 3 flaxseed oil (how can I replace when travelling? flaxseed oil caps? how much?) > -3 times 2g of vitamin C > -2 times 2 caps of OPC plus (I try morning+lunch but somtimes it's too close, when I have morning+evening I sleep bad. NB sometimes I have pain in my teeth or gums or jaw after the 2nd sirving) > -1 lugol painting with 2 drops > -morning and evening I rub my breast with vitafons onguent + thuja occidentalis essential oil > -one minute breast lymphatic massage > -2 or 3 times 25drops of H2O2 in a big amount of water + when I can an enema with the same > > Is there sth else I should add or try instead (was thinking about IP6-inositol,serrapeptase, selenium, but i don't want to swallow billions of pills for nothing or even create negative interaction!) ? Or chage some doses?...or...??? > Can I still hope to heal naturally or should I consult this doctor...? > > If sth is unclear please ask, I'll try to put things in other words... > > I hope to receive some helpful feedback... > > Sylviane (from France) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 You can also check with iodine , but I would suggest taking at least an equivalent of 12mg lugols iodine orally/day. Some with cancer, especially breast cancer, go to 50 and 100mgs/day.Ted--- On Mon, 3/15/10, sylviane <sissyv wrote:sylviane <sissyv please adviseoleander soup Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 2:53 PM Hello all, I hope some will be able to give me an advice or a helpful feedback as I'm anxious how to control my breast tumor. I suppose the first thing is to introduce the history inshort: Backgroung: When I was younger (around 30) I had a depression treated by official medecine (so you can imagine all the drugs I swallowed at this time! since then I have pb to control my weigth) but I finally resolved with psychotherapy. Now I'm 43. Actual problem: I've been diagnosed a breast tumor 7 years ago. First doctor said it was a "mastose" (not sure in english) due to stress. Radiologist said a tumor to be cut out urgently and analysed to check if cancerous. I didn't go to any doctor with this mamography results and instead consulted a naturopath recomanded by a friend of mine because she has been succesful with lot of serious deseases... She checked with a group of radionicians and they say it was not a cancer and should not be remove, at least not at the moment that my general health was not good. First protocol really helped me with to be in better shape and almost rid me of sinusitis and cystitis that I had so often! Then she kept on changing the treatments as my breast were sometime better sometimes worse but through monthes and years it has been worse: at the beginning I could just feel sth hard and hardly see it in the miror, later the breast was firmer, and after I noticed my breast was smaller and I could see sth and feel like pea. Now on my breast near the nipple I can see like a bean (sometimes it is red) and the skin immediately around is slightly dimpled, and at the limit of the dimpled skin, there is a hollow. (very difficult to describe specially that english is not may mother thongue!) Some symptoms make me fear IBC and untill now neither the naturopath nor myself, seeking on the internet since september, have improve... I was about to decide to see a doctor (the only one near my place recommanded by beljanski organization, with the hope he will use as much as he can non agressive therapy but also I was prepare to go under whatever he says even chemo/radio/ surgery), when I read about hydrogen peroxyde. I decided to do a last try with this protocol. Since october I raised until 3 times 25 drops and my breast was better but each time I reduce H2O2, my breast becomes painful, firm, the "bean" turns red, the hollow deeper... I also try to add an enema with H2O2 every day and it helps. So H2O2 helps but doesn't heal... At the end of january I was anxious again when I discovered some natural powerful therapies in Cancer and chose the oleander protocol. I began the budwig cream for breakfast (from 1 flax oil tablespoon, I raised until 3, I feel i couldn't eat more). Then on the first week of febrary I did the liver cleanse, the only point is that I mistook grape with grapefruit so I mixed grape juice with oil last thing before going to bed: I had diarrhea in the evening while taking epsom salt, I slept fine and continue diarrhea the other day, but it didn't really stop. I was on a journey in egypt when I began the OPC plus. Somedays I had diarrhea and others constipation but I didn't know if it was because of the cleanse, because of the food, because of travelling.. .. One good thing during the stay is that I had, since last year, a pimple that I couldn't get rid of(even whith thuja essential oil or 3% hydrogen peroxyd) on my chest, and as I was taking grapefruit seed extract in beverages, I rubed some on my pimple and in a few days it made a crust and fell ! Back in France mid-february my breast was bad, I was still on diarrhea, all the same I started vitamin C. On march 1st, I began using lugol (paint my solar chakra with 2 drops). Now I have daily: -1budwig with 6 tablespoon of goat cottage cheese + 3 flaxseed oil (how can I replace when travelling? flaxseed oil caps? how much?) -3 times 2g of vitamin C -2 times 2 caps of OPC plus (I try morning+lunch but somtimes it's too close, when I have morning+evening I sleep bad. NB sometimes I have pain in my teeth or gums or jaw after the 2nd sirving) -1 lugol painting with 2 drops -morning and evening I rub my breast with vitafons onguent + thuja occidentalis essential oil -one minute breast lymphatic massage -2 or 3 times 25drops of H2O2 in a big amount of water + when I can an enema with the same Is there sth else I should add or try instead (was thinking about IP6-inositol, serrapeptase, selenium, but i don't want to swallow billions of pills for nothing or even create negative interaction! ) ? Or chage some doses?...or. ..??? Can I still hope to heal naturally or should I consult this doctor...? If sth is unclear please ask, I'll try to put things in other words... I hope to receive some helpful feedback... Sylviane (from France) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010  Hi , Thank you for replying so fast. Yes I take 2 caps twice a day of OPC plus. I had just 1 cap for 5 days, then 1 cap twice a day for 8 days, then 2caps at 1st sirving and 1 at the second sirving for 6 days, and I have been taking 2+2 for 19 days and because of the diarrhea, some pains, and have been feeling very tired lately I thought I shouldn't increase (or not yet), right? Can I ignore the diarrhea or should I stop and start slowly agin after the diarrhea stop or control it another way? I've been reading again (and I'll certainly have to read them again!...) the articles you refered ma to, and I'm still wondering about inositol/IP6 :Should I begin an intensive cure of several monthes at 8 caps and raise to 16 or should I begin with 1 or 2 and raise slowly? Sincerly Sylviane - May oleander soup Monday, March 15, 2010 8:34 PM Re: please advise Hi Sylviane,Did I understand that you are taking two Oleander capsules twice a day? With regard to the constant diarrhea, when did you start taking them? Also, did you increase the dosage gradually, or did you start by taking the full amount?Besides taking oleander faithfully, I would suggest that you include the supplements found in A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol. Inositol/IP6 is a very powerful anti-cancer supplement. So is serrapeptase. Serrapteptase is thought to play an important role in dissolving the outer protective layer of cancer cells and tumors, allowing the immune system to be more effective in eliminating them. Let me refer you to the following article:/Enzymes.htm I know that taking l oads of supplements can be very tiring, but I assure you it is not a waste of time. The supplements found in A Natural Anti-Cancer Protocol are very effective anti-cancer and immune strengthening supplements, and I would encourage to follow the entire protocol not leaving a single stone unturned.As for how to handle the Budwig Diet while traveling.......... Maybe some time of case that contains a cooler? By the way, your English is very good. And we welcome you to our group.My Best, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Hi Sylviane,I don't think that you should increase the dosage of OPC while you are still having diarrhea and pains. Are you referring to cramps? Now, the tired feeling could be detoxing. My guess is that you should continue on this dosage until you are feeling better, then slowly increase. If the diarrhea and pains become too much, then go down a dose until you feel better and then increase slowly again. Now, with your description, it is simply that a guess. I welcome Tony and Marc's input as they are far more familiar with oleander and the symptoms than I. The same thing with Inositol/IP6. Start with one and increase gradually. My very best to you,sylviane <sissyvoleander soup Sent: Mon, March 15, 2010 6:14:38 PMRe: please advise  Hi , Thank you for replying so fast. Yes I take 2 caps twice a day of OPC plus. I had just 1 cap for 5 days, then 1 cap twice a day for 8 days, then 2caps at 1st sirving and 1 at the second sirving for 6 days, and I have been taking 2+2 for 19 days and because of the diarrhea, some pains, and have been feeling very tired lately I thought I shouldn't increase (or not yet), right? Can I ignore the diarrhea or should I stop and start slowly agin after the diarrhea stop or control it another way? I've been reading again (and I'll certainly have to read them again!...) the articles you refered ma to, and I'm still wondering about inositol/IP6 :Should I begin an intensive cure of several monthes at 8 caps and raise to 16 or should I begin with 1 or 2 and raise slowly? Sincerly Sylviane _._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (4) Recent Activity: New Members 10 Visit Your Group MARKETPLACE Hobbies & Activities Zone: Find others who share your passions! Explore new interests. Hobbies & Activities Zone: Find others who share your passions! Explore new interests. Check out Movies to get a recap of this year's Oscar winners, red carpet looks & nominated film trailers. Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Un • Terms of Use . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Hi Sylviane, I think that H2O2 is not compatible with Budwig protocol. I learned that on FlaxseedOil2 group. http://health.FlaxSeedOil2/ Brindusa oleander soup From: sissyvDate: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:53:44 +0100 please advise Hello all, I hope some will be able to give me an advice or a helpful feedback as I'm anxious how to control my breast tumor. I suppose the first thing is to introduce the history inshort: Backgroung: When I was younger (around 30) I had a depression treated by official medecine (so you can imagine all the drugs I swallowed at this time! since then I have pb to control my weigth) but I finally resolved with psychotherapy. Now I'm 43. Actual problem: I've been diagnosed a breast tumor 7 years ago. First doctor said it was a "mastose" (not sure in english) due to stress. Radiologist said a tumor to be cut out urgently and analysed to check if cancerous. I didn't go to any doctor with this mamography results and instead consulted a naturopath recomanded by a friend of mine because she has been succesful with lot of serious deseases... She checked with a group of radionicians and they say it was not a cancer and should not be remove, at least not at the moment that my general health was not good. First protocol really helped me with to be in better shape and almost rid me of sinusitis and cystitis that I had so often! Then she kept on changing the treatments as my breast were sometime better sometimes worse but through monthes and years it has been worse: at the beginning I could just feel sth hard and hardly see it in the miror, later the breast was firmer, and after I noticed my breast was smaller and I could see sth and feel like pea. Now on my breast near the nipple I can see like a bean (sometimes it is red) and the skin immediately around is slightly dimpled, and at the limit of the dimpled skin, there is a hollow. (very difficult to describe specially that english is not may mother thongue!) Some symptoms make me fear IBC and untill now neither the naturopath nor myself, seeking on the internet since september, have improve... I was about to decide to see a doctor (the only one near my place recommanded by beljanski organization, with the hope he will use as much as he can non agressive therapy but also I was prepare to go under whatever he says even chemo/radio/surgery), when I read about hydrogen peroxyde. I decided to do a last try with this protocol. Since october I raised until 3 times 25 drops and my breast was better but each time I reduce H2O2, my breast becomes painful, firm, the "bean" turns red, the hollow deeper... I also try to add an enema with H2O2 every day and it helps. So H2O2 helps but doesn't heal... At the end of january I was anxious again when I discovered some natural powerful therapies in Cancer and chose the oleander protocol. I began the budwig cream for breakfast (from 1 flax oil tablespoon, I raised until 3, I feel i couldn't eat more). Then on the first week of febrary I did the liver cleanse, the only point is that I mistook grape with grapefruit so I mixed grape juice with oil last thing before going to bed: I had diarrhea in the evening while taking epsom salt, I slept fine and continue diarrhea the other day, but it didn't really stop. I was on a journey in egypt when I began the OPC plus. Somedays I had diarrhea and others constipation but I didn't know if it was because of the cleanse, because of the food, because of travelling.... One good thing during the stay is that I had, since last year, a pimple that I couldn't get rid of(even whith thuja essential oil or 3% hydrogen peroxyd) on my chest, and as I was taking grapefruit seed extract in beverages, I rubed some on my pimple and in a few days it made a crust and fell ! Back in France mid-february my breast was bad, I was still on diarrhea, all the same I started vitamin C. On march 1st, I began using lugol (paint my solar chakra with 2 drops). Now I have daily: -1budwig with 6 tablespoon of goat cottage cheese + 3 flaxseed oil (how can I replace when travelling? flaxseed oil caps? how much?) -3 times 2g of vitamin C -2 times 2 caps of OPC plus (I try morning+lunch but somtimes it's too close, when I have morning+evening I sleep bad. NB sometimes I have pain in my teeth or gums or jaw after the 2nd sirving) -1 lugol painting with 2 drops -morning and evening I rub my breast with vitafons onguent + thuja occidentalis essential oil -one minute breast lymphatic massage -2 or 3 times 25drops of H2O2 in a big amount of water + when I can an enema with the same Is there sth else I should add or try instead (was thinking about IP6-inositol,serrapeptase, selenium, but i don't want to swallow billions of pills for nothing or even create negative interaction!) ? Or chage some doses?...or...??? Can I still hope to heal naturally or should I consult this doctor...? If sth is unclear please ask, I'll try to put things in other words... I hope to receive some helpful feedback... Sylviane (from France) Emmenez vos contacts faire un tour. Essayez Messenger version mobile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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