Success stories and half measures that hinder success

February 1, 2010

Actually there have been several success stories posted, but I guess they are easy to miss with all the messages constantly being posted and forcing other ones quickly off the front page. You can find several that I reposted at the Oleander Support forum at CureZone:

http://www.curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=936

Perhaps the best indication of how successful oleander and the rest of the suggested protocol is comes from the large number of members we have here that have been here for two to five years and the very small number who have joined the group and are not still alive.

Besides the almost 1700 members of this group, Marc Swanepoel has followed over 1000 people who have taken the Sutherlandia OPC and reports that as best he can determine the succes rate is almost 95% for stage I and II cancers and about 85% for stage III and IV.

I am glad you posted this though, because it reminds me that it is a good idea for us to have a forum on the upcoming site for testimonials - and a good idea for me to dig up the success stories of this group, as well as get some from Marc, to post. There have been quite a few and I am sure there are a great many we have not heard of simply because the large majority of our members do not choose to take part in the discussion. Hopefully the features of the new site will encourage the group to be more active and will seperate out topics and discussion threads so that things don't get lost in the shuffle so easily.

One point I cannot emphasis enough - people do not get well from oleander so much as they get well from using oleander as part of an overall protocol. Those who adopt a comprehensive protocol and who take enough oleander rarely fail. Almost without fail, those who have struggled have not taken enough oleander and/or have not followed a complete protocol. I have had people report that they are taking a mere teaspoon a day or one pill a day and others report that they take it for awhile then stop and then take it again - when they should be taking much, much more (depending upon the type and stage of cancer, up to 8-10 capsules a day if tolerated). Others report skipping Budwig and other vital parts of the protocol.

It saddens, frustrates and angers me to no end to see that happen. I will be making a post about that soon when I figure out a tactful way to do so. In a nutshell, excuses are easy to find and an all out effort at beating cancer is not an easy thing to do - but when you take half measures and on-again off-again approaches your risk of failure multiplies. When it is your very life (or that of a loved one) that is at stake, that is something I just cannot understand!

All the best,

oleander soup , robyn howell <robynehowell wrote:>> Has anyone seen where anyone in this group has wrote in to say they have gotten well from cancer with oleander?> I have been reading for a year and I dont remember seeing any.> > Thanks, Robyn

February 1, 2010

Hello Tony, I agree with you, while in a fight for one's very life, one must absolutely go 'all in', as evidenced in videos of "The Incurables" (one example found on you tube and more info at www.veria.com about the TV show on the dish network).

Since it likely won't be possible to 'criminalize' cancer (I personally think it should be outlawed [along with big pharma & the FDA among others]), self help, awareness & dedication to one's own health is our only option.Cancer pains and scares me due to the needless suffering of humanity and the sad fact that it is generally 'self inflicted', but am greatly pleased to see so much victory over this insidious and horrible dis-ease. I especially like it when alternative medicine (no matter the treatment modality) is proven to be the only choice for beating this detestable silent killer.

Thank you for your tireless work!My best to all,

Ila

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oleander soup

Monday, February 01, 2010 5:13 AM

Success stories and half measures that hinder success

Actually there have been several success stories posted, but I guess they are easy to miss with all the messages constantly being posted and forcing other ones quickly off the front page. You can find several that I reposted at the Oleander Support forum at CureZone:

http://www.curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=936

Perhaps the best indication of how successful oleander and the rest of the suggested protocol is comes from the large number of members we have here that have been here for two to five years and the very small number who have joined the group and are not still alive.

Besides the almost 1700 members of this group, Marc Swanepoel has followed over 1000 people who have taken the Sutherlandia OPC and reports that as best he can determine the succes rate is almost 95% for stage I and II cancers and about 85% for stage III and IV.

I am glad you posted this though, because it reminds me that it is a good idea for us to have a forum on the upcoming site for testimonials - and a good idea for me to dig up the success stories of this group, as well as get some from Marc, to post. There have been quite a few and I am sure there are a great many we have not heard of simply because the large majority of our members do not choose to take part in the discussion. Hopefully the features of the new site will encourage the group to be more active and will seperate out topics and discussion threads so that things don't get lost in the shuffle so easily.

One point I cannot emphasis enough - people do not get well from oleander so much as they get well from using oleander as part of an overall protocol. Those who adopt a comprehensive protocol and who take enough oleander rarely fail. Almost without fail, those who have struggled have not taken enough oleander and/or have not followed a complete protocol. I have had people report that they are taking a mere teaspoon a day or one pill a day and others report that they take it for awhile then stop and then take it again - when they should be taking much, much more (depending upon the type and stage of cancer, up to 8-10 capsules a day if tolerated). Others report skipping Budwig and other vital parts of the protocol.

It saddens, frustrates and angers me to no end to see that happen. I will be making a post about that soon when I figure out a tactful way to do so. In a nutshell, excuses are easy to find and an all out effort at beating cancer is not an easy thing to do - but when you take half measures and on-again off-again approaches your risk of failure multiplies. When it is your very life (or that of a loved one) that is at stake, that is something I just cannot understand!

All the best,

oleander soup , robyn howell <robynehowell wrote:>> Has anyone seen where anyone in this group has wrote in to say they have gotten well from cancer with oleander?> I have been reading for a year and I dont remember seeing any.> > Thanks, Robyn

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February 1, 2010

Hi Ila.

Thank you for the great sites you sent to the group, i enjoy and learn and will keep for refrences

Hugs Mary

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Ila

oleander soup

Tuesday, February 02, 2010 3:25 AM

Re: Success stories and half measures that hinder success

Hello Tony, I agree with you, while in a fight for one's very life, one must absolutely go 'all in', as evidenced in videos of "The Incurables" (one example found on you tube and more info at www.veria.com about the TV show on the dish network).

Since it likely won't be possible to 'criminalize' cancer (I personally think it should be outlawed [along with big pharma & the FDA among others]), self help, awareness & dedication to one's own health is our only option.Cancer pains and scares me due to the needless suffering of humanity and the sad fact that it is generally 'self inflicted', but am greatly pleased to see so much victory over this insidious and horrible dis-ease. I especially like it when alternative medicine (no matter the treatment modality) is proven to be the only choice for beating this detestable silent killer.

Thank you for your tireless work!My best to all,

Ila

-

oleander soup

Monday, February 01, 2010 5:13 AM

Success stories and half measures that hinder success

Actually there have been several success stories posted, but I guess they are easy to miss with all the messages constantly being posted and forcing other ones quickly off the front page. You can find several that I reposted at the Oleander Support forum at CureZone:

http://www.curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=936

Perhaps the best indication of how successful oleander and the rest of the suggested protocol is comes from the large number of members we have here that have been here for two to five years and the very small number who have joined the group and are not still alive.

Besides the almost 1700 members of this group, Marc Swanepoel has followed over 1000 people who have taken the Sutherlandia OPC and reports that as best he can determine the succes rate is almost 95% for stage I and II cancers and about 85% for stage III and IV.

I am glad you posted this though, because it reminds me that it is a good idea for us to have a forum on the upcoming site for testimonials - and a good idea for me to dig up the success stories of this group, as well as get some from Marc, to post. There have been quite a few and I am sure there are a great many we have not heard of simply because the large majority of our members do not choose to take part in the discussion. Hopefully the features of the new site will encourage the group to be more active and will seperate out topics and discussion threads so that things don't get lost in the shuffle so easily.

One point I cannot emphasis enough - people do not get well from oleander so much as they get well from using oleander as part of an overall protocol. Those who adopt a comprehensive protocol and who take enough oleander rarely fail. Almost without fail, those who have struggled have not taken enough oleander and/or have not followed a complete protocol. I have had people report that they are taking a mere teaspoon a day or one pill a day and others report that they take it for awhile then stop and then take it again - when they should be taking much, much more (depending upon the type and stage of cancer, up to 8-10 capsules a day if tolerated). Others report skipping Budwig and other vital parts of the protocol.

It saddens, frustrates and angers me to no end to see that happen. I will be making a post about that soon when I figure out a tactful way to do so. In a nutshell, excuses are easy to find and an all out effort at beating cancer is not an easy thing to do - but when you take half measures and on-again off-again approaches your risk of failure multiplies. When it is your very life (or that of a loved one) that is at stake, that is something I just cannot understand!

All the best,

oleander soup , robyn howell <robynehowell wrote:>> Has anyone seen where anyone in this group has wrote in to say they have gotten well from cancer with oleander?> I have been reading for a year and I dont remember seeing any.> > Thanks, Robyn

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