Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 I had responded earlier and provided an herbal supplement, Rauwolfia Extra, that my 88 yo mother is taking for her HBP that was recommended by our naturopathic doctor. He told me that it had no side effects. Well today when I looked up the monograph for Rauwolfia Serpentina I found that it did indeed have side effects that included getting ulcers, an itchy rash, nose irritation, vivid dreams, depression, shortness of breath. Not good. Our naturopathic doctor was not giving us thorough information apparently. So I would like to retract what I said earlier about Rauwolfia and I would sure love to hear more about Asparagus Extract and how it lowers HBP. Thanks. Josephine. , " alvarezdy " <alvarezdy wrote: > > Irene, > > One thing that has worked very well for me is a product called Asparagus Extract.It's available through www.herbalhealer.com. Look under Dr. Chi's products. > > Regards, > > Dawn > > , " Irene " <meandmy2cats@> wrote: > > > > I was horrified to finally check my blood pressure and find it elevated to 197/82 yesterday. I am 81 and I know that I am too sedentary and that I must get off my butt and get more exercise. My diet is exceedingly good and I only weigh 95 lbs so that is not an issue. I don't want to take medication but those numbers are bad and other than more exercise is there anything else I should do to try to get the numbers down? I would appreciate suggestions. > > > > Irene > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Also aged garlic extract. Mag citrate runs to the colon too quickly for some and may cause diarrhea. A multiple chelate form that contains minimal amounts of oxides and citrates may be better managed and, therefore, better absorbed. Magnesium glycinate causes the least intestinal distress for the sensitive person.--- On Thu, 5/21/09, Susan Siegel <ssiegel5 wrote: Susan Siegel <ssiegel5Re: Blood pressure Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 8:22 AM Oh...and of course, cod liver oil!Susan SiegelOn May 21, 2009, at 7:31 AM, Susan Siegel wrote:> Magnesium! The best, most absorbable form is magnesium citrate.> Other good heart supplements are COQ10, and Hawthorne berry.>> Susan Siegel>>>> On May 18, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Irene wrote:>>> I was horrified to finally check my blood pressure and find it>> elevated to 197/82 yesterday. I am 81 and I know that I am too>> sedentary and that I must get off my butt and get more exercise. My>> diet is exceedingly good and I only weigh 95 lbs so that is not an>> issue. I don't want to take medication but those numbers are bad>> and other than more exercise is there anything else I should do to>> try to get the numbers down? I would appreciate suggestions.>>>> Irene>>>>>>>> --->>>> «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»>>>> § - PULSE ON 21st CENTURY ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE! §>>>> >> Subscribe send email to: - >>>> «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»>>>> GREAT VACATION RENTAL ON THE LAKE: www.vacationhomerentals.com/39833>>>> DISCLOSURE:>> Any information here in is for educational purpose only; it may be>> news related, purely speculation or SOMEONE’S OPINION. Always>> consult with a qualified Medical Doctor before deciding on any>> course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening>> illnesses.>>>>>> SUBMISSION POLICY & CONDITION OF MEMBERSHIP:>> By becoming a member of this group you AGREE to hold this group its>> members, list owners, moderators & affiliates harmless of any>> liability for any direct, consequential, incidental, damage incurred.>>>> If you post a piece to the list. We reserve the right to attach your>> name and email address to the piece, as well as to keep them on>> record.>> You should NOT post copyrighted material unless proper attributions>> to the source of the material. Submissions are gladly accepted.>> Please feel free to post material that you think are worthy.>>>> YOU AGREE; to accept responsibility and liability for your own>> actions and to contact a licensed Medical Doctor before deciding on>> any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening>> illnesses.>>>> IF YOU DO NOT AGREE; you must :>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Dear Bill, Why not ask your wife to quit the drugs and go to natural substances such as hawthorn berry & flower and dandelion? Natural blood thinners are ginger and ginkgo biloba, but don't use them while your wife is still taking drugs as there will be complications. Besides having side-effects, drugs are often incompatible with other substances. Most drugs deplete magnesium. John from Israel , BILL POLUMBO <thatbear07 wrote: > > None of the websites for BLOOD PRESSURE, message 10a. Re: The Essential > Nutrient Magnesium, could be found. > My wife 1 month ago had a mini stroke and was given Plavis for thinning > blood > And to lower her blood pressure. > That was the reason I was interested in this article from Shan. > Is there any info on Plavis? > > Thank you > > Bill Polumbo > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Bill, My husband and I had been prescribed Plavix after stent implantations. It is VERY common for doctors to prescribe this drug because, we feel, they have been encouraged by the drug companies. Anyway, to learn more about it, go to: http://www.plavix.com/ I would write more about our natural path, but I am a newby to this list and want to learn more about the group before participating on a greater scale. Bobbie , " yburkett " <yburkett wrote: > > Dear Bill, Why not ask your wife to quit the drugs and go to natural substances such as hawthorn berry & flower and dandelion? Natural blood thinners are ginger and ginkgo biloba, but don't use them while your wife is still taking drugs as there will be complications. Besides having side-effects, drugs are often incompatible with other substances. Most drugs deplete magnesium. > > John from Israel > > > , BILL POLUMBO <thatbear07@> wrote: > > > > None of the websites for BLOOD PRESSURE, message 10a. Re: The Essential > > Nutrient Magnesium, could be found. > > My wife 1 month ago had a mini stroke and was given Plavis for thinning > > blood > > And to lower her blood pressure. > > That was the reason I was interested in this article from Shan. > > Is there any info on Plavis? > > > > Thank you > > > > Bill Polumbo > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Vince, can you please tell me what exactly you did? i would like to try this too as mine is or was as high as yours. Thanks, werner--- On Wed, 7/22/09, vince107403 <vnash wrote: vince107403 <vnash{Herbal Remedies} blood pressureherbal remedies Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 7:23 AM Hi everyoneThought I would let you know how my high blood pressure was after taking in some of the suggestions you sent to me.WEll when I went to the gym and they measured it, it was a scary 160 over 115, so they asked me to go to the Drs before I started at the gym, I went to the Drs a few days later and it was 145 over 105 (I must have been a bit stressed at the gym when they took it or they where not so good at taking it), then after two weeks of juicing, raw food, meat/fish only every other day etc, etc and i will admit I am not talking 100% but certainly 60-70% of the time and vamping up on some exercise, my blood pressure was down to 140 over 88, the nurse was so impressed by the change she re-checked it, I have also lost 10 lbs, so power to juicing and raw food ay! The other plus points are feeling better spiritually and with myself and feeling more chilled out with life in generalSooooo thanks again for your advices and postsI look forward to posting that it is BELOW 120 over 80 soooooon!BestVince (uk) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Vince, This is awesome Vince. Well done ! Mary O : Hi everyone Thought I would let you know how my high blood pressure was after taking in some of the suggestions you sent to me. WEll when I went to the gym and they measured it, it was a scary 160 over 115, so they asked me to go to the Drs before I started at the gym, I went to the Drs a few days later and it was 145 over 105 (I must have been a bit stressed at the gym when they took it or they where not so good at taking it), then after two weeks of juicing, raw food, meat/fish only every other day etc, etc and i will admit I am not talking 100% but certainly 60-70% of the time and vamping up on some exercise, my blood pressure was down to 140 over 88, the nurse was so impressed by the change she re-checked it, I have also lost 10 lbs, so power to juicing and raw food ay! The other plus points are feeling better spiritually and with myself and feeling more chilled out with life in general Sooooo thanks again for your advices and posts I look forward to posting that it is BELOW 120 over 80 soooooon! Best Vince (uk) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 Nothing is normal about blood pressure, 100 people 100 answers, beyond genetics and history ancestral comfort foods.Take over the fixable Environment - lifestyle part of the equation! I just tested medical skill in chain of visits over some spells I had, now ended in stress test to confirm, just to point to my blood pressure dropping 30 when I stand in early morn and body used to being horizontal. Mine BP @ 57yrs 120-145 without Med and lower when I chill and sit down, this same as 20ys ago 5% pad. As I said we all different and even my sister from me. First: Are you eating fruit, Nuts, avocadoes, or similar quality sources in at least half diet. In week eat 3lbs of almonds, 6lbs bananas, in addition mangoes and lately 3-6 lbs of tangerines ~ mandarins these fill much of Day , eat as much as you want as late as you want..and still lose weight. Second: How's your " Zen in the Yard " Are you trying to get done or worry about what else you need to be or doing? Next time before psyching up for the yard, do opposite , As Yard your Temple and each task fill your appreciation of life and your care for it. Let your mind be detached and without a clock to guide.work till dark like ancestors. Important as medicated you are most likely need to start with big slow glasses of water to hydrate and keep pitcher outside and drink before ever thirsty.thick blood is part of HBP.as much as stress above. Do as many task without assistance of fuming noisy gasoline tools for every purpose...Prune as Bonsai master , swing tools in rhythm and find harmony in creation, not doing battle with it or time. If you do not have a thoroughbred lawn, repeated treatments of weed killer will cut mowing in half. A kill off and sow of good grass pays for itself for many years. With a good quality short fescue, I cut few times in spring to summer and only few more till fall. I use less than 5 gallons of Gas for mower and tools annual on long season southern yard 110x220ft including mulching leaves with special double cut snapper blade used year round. NO raking , no piles of dead grass or leaves , free compost, see how much lower your blood pressure is! I use my neighbors abundant pine needles for bedding flowers and mulch..it's all where you find it. As you get over the transition from recovery to working health keep a cool mind and spirit, eat and do in pleasure and Joy creation. Your right on the ball looking for exit from levels of medication you may be able to transition, in better diet, change of tuning of the mind , your anxiety triggers, freedom in time, " New Values for a New Life " <http://dynamicliveweb.com/Eden.aspx> <http://dynamicliveweb.com/FindingEdenStore.aspx> Finding Eden Store ~ Road to Tree of Life ~ Welcome Eric Vineyard Dynamic Live Web ~ Finding Eden Finding Eden ~ Ancient Wisdom Essential Oils <eden eden <http://dynamicliveweb.com/Eden.aspx> http://dynamicliveweb.com/Eden.aspx mobile: <http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=en & src=jj_signature & To=865+207%2D29 29 & Email=grape.52 865 207-2929 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2010 Report Share Posted May 10, 2010 As per my info BP of the range of 150/100,if it persists for long time,it may be a cause of stroke. Better to continuously maintain at normal level. The best way is to do deep breathing like Anulom Vilom(refer google) or learn it from some yoga teacher. Also Ayurvedic med like Muktavati is very good. I AM THAT HARI --- On Sat, 5/8/10, Ralph <MUSIBIKE wrote: Ralph <MUSIBIKE BLOOD PRESSURE Saturday, May 8, 2010, 12:07 AM  I have lost almost 60 LBS sense 3 months ago. And now, with medicine my blood pressure is down 30 points on average. However, if working hard in the yard, I can still get my pressure up over 150/100 still. Is this normal? Over time will the heart muscles shrink back down some to reduce blood pressure more while working out now that I weigh less and take medicine for it. Are there some natural medicines to use that anyone may suggest? MUSIBIKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Yes, it falls back into the 130s / 90s range within about 5 minutes. after 10 minutes it can get down into the 120s/ 80s level when I take my medicine. I also completely gave up drinking 4 months ago. That is what kept the weight on me. Also, drinking seems to RAISE blood pressure rather than settle it down. MUSIBIKE , Barbara Pugh <herbysoap wrote: > > hi, you didn't say your age(blood pressure is dependent on age) the range you've said sounds pretty normal after hard work but if you're worried look at how quickly it drops back to normal (if it's reasonably quickly that's a very good thing!) > Yoga is pretty effective at lowering blood pressure so you may want to give that a go. > Congrats on the weight loss though! > barbara > > --- On Fri, 7/5/10, Ralph <MUSIBIKE wrote: > > Ralph <MUSIBIKE > BLOOD PRESSURE > > Friday, 7 May, 2010, 19:37 > Â > > > I have lost almost 60 LBS sense 3 months ago. And now, with medicine my blood pressure is down 30 points on average. However, if working hard in the yard, I can still get my pressure up over 150/100 still. Is this normal? > > > > Over time will the heart muscles shrink back down some to reduce blood pressure more while working out now that I weigh less and take medicine for it. > > > > Are there some natural medicines to use that anyone may suggest? > > > > MUSIBIKE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2010 Report Share Posted May 11, 2010 Sounds to me like it's still a little bit on the high side but the fact that it drops back down that quickly is a very good sign. Yes stay off the drink if your blood pressure is an issue, I'd also try and limit the amount of caffeine you have . Have you tried green tea? To be honest keeping up the exercise and making your diet as healthy as you can will do you as much good as most things. Barbara --- On Tue, 11/5/10, Ralph <MUSIBIKE wrote: Ralph <MUSIBIKE Re: BLOOD PRESSURE Tuesday, 11 May, 2010, 3:19  Yes, it falls back into the 130s / 90s range within about 5 minutes. after 10 minutes it can get down into the 120s/ 80s level when I take my medicine. I also completely gave up drinking 4 months ago. That is what kept the weight on me. Also, drinking seems to RAISE blood pressure rather than settle it down. MUSIBIKE , Barbara Pugh <herbysoap@. ..> wrote: > > hi, you didn't say your age(blood pressure is dependent on age) the range you've said sounds pretty normal after hard work but if you're worried look at how quickly it drops back to normal (if it's reasonably quickly that's a very good thing!) > Yoga is pretty effective at lowering blood pressure so you may want to give that a go. > Congrats on the weight loss though! > barbara > > --- On Fri, 7/5/10, Ralph <MUSIBIKE@.. .> wrote: > > Ralph <MUSIBIKE@.. .> > BLOOD PRESSURE > > Friday, 7 May, 2010, 19:37 > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > I have lost almost 60 LBS sense 3 months ago. And now, with medicine my blood pressure is down 30 points on average. However, if working hard in the yard, I can still get my pressure up over 150/100 still. Is this normal? > > > > Over time will the heart muscles shrink back down some to reduce blood pressure more while working out now that I weigh less and take medicine for it. > > > > Are there some natural medicines to use that anyone may suggest? > > > > MUSIBIKE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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