Blood sugar

November 29, 2003

At 09:27 PM 11/28/2003 -0000, you wrote:

>

>Butch, do you think there is anything to the studies at Cairo

>University using coriander and dill essential oils to

>supposedly " cure " diabetes or at least control blood sugar levels. I

>am anticipating a NO (but you never know). I am working on a diabetes

>project (not myself) which is why I ask.

>

>Michael

Hi Michael,

I'm not Butch and I'm not writing about EOs, but I just wanted to let you

know there is a lot of research going on now on both guava (the fruit) and

guava leaves in treating diabetes. I first learned of the ethnobotanical

use of the leaves when I moved to Miami and spoke with some Caribbean

people here. Then I found out that reserach was ongoing with the fruit. I

googled some sources for you:

http://tinyurl.com/wy7h

Figured the connection for this group was the herb (leaf) part of the

equation :-)

http://member.newsguy.com/~herblady

November 29, 2003

The post was not on this list. I think I did a Google search with the

key words...diabetes, coriander oil, essential oils, Cairo U., etc.

We are working on a beta cell regeneration project for insulin

dependent diabetics and possible genetic research. If it works, you

will be hearing more about it in a year or so. Did the people you

know control the diabetes through diet?

And thank you Anya for the Guava links. I will look at those more

closely.

Michael

, Butch Owen <butchbsi@s...>

wrote:

> Hi Micheal.

>

> > Butch, do you think there is anything to the studies at Cairo

> > University using coriander and dill essential oils to

> > supposedly " cure " diabetes or at least control blood sugar

levels. I

> > am anticipating a NO (but you never know). I am working on a

diabetes

> > project (not myself) which is why I ask.

>

> I've not seen such a study .. if it was presented on this list then

I

> didn't get the post. I'd like to see it. If you have it please

send it

> to me.

>

> As for " curing " diabetes .. that's not hard to do .. depends on what

> stage of diabetes we're talking about. I know many people who were

non

> insulin dependent diabetics who are now no longer diabetics.

>

> > Michael

>

> Y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch http://www.AV-AT.com

November 30, 2003

I did an advanced Google search omitting the words " young and living "

from the search and only 3 results popped up - one of them was a

diabetes message board where some folks were asking if anyone else heard

of this study and nobody had, another was a dead link, and the last was

pretty much just a useless list of words.

I just wrote to Cairo U. directly asking them for a transcript of this

study, or an overview of it, or web link to this study - or anything. If

they write back, I'll pass the info along

I hope there is something to it, but the fact that almost all the links

out there were YL related has me wondering if its another one of GY's

B.S. half informed stories about a land far far away with exotically

named people saying things that will help promote him and his products,

figuring almost nobody would bother researching the info further, like

he tried to do with Professor Baser in Turkey - until Butch burst

that bubble of lies

I did find this link about alternative therapies for diabetes:

http://www.nfb.org/vodold/vsum9814.htm

It is info excerpted from " The Johns Hopkins

White Paper on Diabetes, " © Medletter Associates 1998

Good luck!

*Smile*

Chris (list mom)

http://www.alittleolfactory.com

Michael Gest [mhgest]

Saturday, November 29, 2003 12:41 PM

Re: Blood Sugar

The post was not on this list. I think I did a Google search with the

key words...diabetes, coriander oil, essential oils, Cairo U., etc.

We are working on a beta cell regeneration project for insulin

dependent diabetics and possible genetic research. If it works, you

will be hearing more about it in a year or so. Did the people you

know control the diabetes through diet?

And thank you Anya for the Guava links. I will look at those more

closely.

Michael

November 30, 2003

I hope there is something to it, but the fact that almost all the links

out there were YL related has me wondering if its another one of GY's

B.S. half informed stories about a land far far away with exotically

named people saying things that will help promote him and his products,

figuring almost nobody would bother researching the info further, like

he tried to do with Professor Baser in Turkey - until Butch burst

that bubble of lies

Chris when I was with them he did claim dill was good for diabetics.... I will

have to dig out some of the old garbage if I can find any and give you more on

that.

Hugs

Neysa

November 30, 2003

The problem that I see with many of these remedies...dill oil, guava,

etc. is that, while they may work somewhere for somebody (i.e.

anecdotal), if you are familiar with the criteria for clinical trials

in modern Western medicine these kinds of results (even those from

overseas universities) are generally not acceptible and will never

catch on as a widespread solution. Sometimes there is good reason to

be skeptical (e.g. the studies may be slanted to get funding or not

precise enough about the complexities of individual situations) and

the conservative institutional realities are very difficult to

penetrate (with alternative methods) in this country. I hope that

this is slowly changing. My interest in aromatherapy is mostly for my

own health and well being but I am also interested in what people are

trying so that I can pass on information to those who might be

aligned to this approach.

The trials we are hopefully going to start involve natural methods to

address the autoimmune aspect of Diabetes 1 and a " bio-electrical "

approach to regeneration plus accumulating some precise data about

how foods affect blood sugar. I am in a learning mode about the whole

thing myself...it could have far-reaching implications.

Michael

, " Neysa Dormish " <the-

neysa@a...> wrote:

> I hope there is something to it, but the fact that almost all the

links

> out there were YL related has me wondering if its another one of

GY's

> B.S. half informed stories about a land far far away with exotically

> named people saying things that will help promote him and his

products,

> figuring almost nobody would bother researching the info further,

like

> he tried to do with Professor Baser in Turkey - until Butch burst

> that bubble of lies

>

> Chris when I was with them he did claim dill was good for

diabetics.... I will have to dig out some of the old garbage if I can

find any and give you more on that.

>

> Hugs

> Neysa

>

November 30, 2003

Has anyone looked into the effect of Chromium Picolinate on blood sugar in your

study? This may not even be relevant to what your studying, but the stuff has

had amazing results with diabetics. Even people that tend to just get

hypoglycemic. Also, there is a product called _____________ Yeast (the first

name has escaped me. I was in a health food store one day and this old man came

in asking for it and was quite determined to have it, so I asked him about the

product. He said he traveled a lot and due to becoming hypoglycemic, he would

fall asleep. SInce he started taking the product, he had not one symptom of

that. He's probably staving off diabetes by keeping his blood sugar more

stabilyzed with this product. Also, I work in tow hospitals. I read ED doc

dictations all day and know that MANY people control diabetes with diet. It has

to do with carb intake and the quality of carb intake. IT's really quite

facinating. I work with diabetics and watch them eat and they wonder why their

sugars are out of control, duh.

I can't remember if this is the group Linda is in, but she is quite the expert

on this subject.

Michael Gest <mhgest

Nov 29, 2003 9:55 PM