restless legs syndrome

February 25, 2005

Hi Rik,

I’ve had MS for about 7 yrs and it

is not un common for me to experience ‘rest legs’. Things to

support blood circulation and nerve calming always hellp. Has she done a total

cleanse? Usually also helps to do what you can to remove toxins from the

body, specifically the kidney.

Lack of calcium and magnesium, iron and B

vitamin are common in someone with RLS and can contribute to spasms, twitching and

cramps. If I remember correctly a nettle infusion and/or a red

clover infusion help with some of those ( but I defer to someone with more

experience lol)

Mostly if she added a half hour of leg

exercise, walking, a stationary or outdoor bike that really helps a lot.

Very often RLS is indicative of the Kidneys needing a cleanse. And it

absolutely helps.

I’m in no way an expert but

these are some of the things thru my experience with it and the things a friend

pointed out…she is a ND

As for the flow of ‘Chi” or

energy mentioned……yes RLS or anything in the lower limbs would lead

me think there is a blockage of some sort in her root chakra (this is the stuff

I AM knowledgeable in as I teach it lol) but it is a little OT so feel free to

contact me regarding the energetic flow aspect.

I wish you and your wife well

Michelle Brown

mwnotes

Rik

[bliksemskater]

Thursday, February 24, 2005

9:10 PM

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Herbal Remedies -

restless legs syndrome

hi guys,

i'm searching the internet to find out about

restless legs syndrome.

my wife has had this for so long and takes

medication for this. i

wish i knew something for this to get her off the

*plasic* pills.

here is ( below) something explaining it, i am not

sure if this is

correct and i would like to know how to handle it,

or how someone

would aproach this, any advice, thoughts about

this? thanks, rik

Restless Leg Syndrome

Restless Legs

Restless Legs Syndrome

Fidgety legs

Tingly legs

Sleeplessness

Irritating " Itch " in the Legs

Sleep Disorders

Natural Herbal Remedies for Restless leg syndrome

Restless legs syndrome with related Sleep

Disorders is not a totally

new phenomenon. The effects have existed for

centuries. Today it is

far more prevalent than ever, largely because of

our modern

circumstances.

Restless leg syndrome with related Sleep Disorders

can be compared

to gout or arthritis only less intense, occurring

within the vessels

instead of in joints. Also, the " irritating

substance " is not so

concentrated as to provoke an actual inflammation

in one local area

but because of its dilution within the fluids of

the vessels is

being more diffused over a larger area usually

producing an

irritation rather than actual pain. This is

similar to how a wooden

sliver will irritate or how an irritating

substance on our skin will

cause irritation only within the vessels the

substance is already

much finer and on the inside vessel walls. If

there are too many

irritating substances being carried in the blood

they can also alter

its chemistry.

Important concept: The term " life force "

is a very abstract term to

most people. The blood carries this life force

taken from the air we

breathe and the food we eat to all parts of the

body. In the Orient

it is called " chi. "

This very fine life energy for various reasons

stops flowing

freely due to its insufficiency producing a

stagnation. With it the

movement of the blood in general along with the

substances being

carried in the blood also become inhibited. This

is not a stoppage,

but a stagnation. In this stagnation various

substances accumulate

and begin to ferment releasing their heat and

rarified toxins

producing local irritation. This can range from a

mild itching to

pain.

This life force is to our blood what octane is to

the fuel we put

into our cars. The more octane the more power. The

more life force

the more capacity/energy to move that which could

become stagnant.

With age there is even less life force available,

this deficit in

life force leaves the blood less vital. (This

circulating " power, "

although vital, is not mechanically quantifiable.)

And, as most of

the blood is in the legs a greater possibility of

irritation in the

legs exists in older people.

This is how a knowledgeable herbalist would

explain Restless leg

syndrome related Sleep Disorders.

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Dr.IanShillington

February 25, 2005

Have you tried Reiki? Yale University and others have incorporated

it into both their nursing and divinity programs. It has been well

researched and more will be done I'm sure. This not the forum for

it, but if you want to know about it contact me privately.

herbal remedies , " Rik " <bliksemskater>

wrote:

>

> hi guys,

> i'm searching the internet to find out about restless legs

syndrome.

<snip>

> breathe and the food we eat to all parts of the body. In the Orient

> it is called " chi. "

> This very fine life energy for various reasons stops flowing

> freely due to its insufficiency producing a stagnation. With it the

> movement of the blood in general along with the substances being

February 25, 2005

Hi Rik

Doc Christopher talks about the nerves and nerve sheath becoming thin

and frayed due to depletion of minerals (esp calcium) because of poor

diet, stress, etc, and that it's important to " feed the nerves " . This

type of remedy sounds like it would help your wife.

I would start with the Nerve Sedative Formula, the recipe's in the

files.

Additional herbs that Doc Christopher recommends which are not in the

Nerve Sedative Formula include capsicum, Lady's slipper, wood betony and

mistletoe.

I have also personally used the CalCalm tea (Doc Shillington's recipe),

which is very high in calcium, and it's wonderful!

Best,

Kelli

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| Rik [bliksemskater]

| Thursday, February 24, 2005 6:10 PM

| herbal remedies

| Herbal Remedies - restless legs syndrome

|

| hi guys,

| i'm searching the internet to find out about restless legs syndrome.

February 25, 2005

thanks everyone for your replies. i will let her read your comments

and she will have to make her decisions what to do about it. thanks

so much, rik

> Hi Rik,

>

> I've had MS for about 7 yrs and it is not un common for me to

experience

> 'rest legs'. Things to support blood circulation and nerve

calming always

> hellp. Has she done a total cleanse? Usually also helps to do

what you can

> to remove toxins from the body, specifically the kidney.

>

> Lack of calcium and magnesium, iron and B vitamin are common in

someone with

> RLS and can contribute to spasms, twitching and cramps. If I

remember

> correctly a nettle infusion and/or a red clover infusion help

with some of

> those ( but I defer to someone with more experience lol)

>

> Mostly if she added a half hour of leg exercise, walking, a

stationary or

> outdoor bike that really helps a lot. Very often RLS is

indicative of the

> Kidneys needing a cleanse. And it absolutely helps.

>

> I'm in no way an expert but these are some of the things thru my

experience

> with it and the things a friend pointed out.she is a ND

>

> As for the flow of 'Chi " or energy mentioned..yes RLS or anything

in the

> lower limbs would lead me think there is a blockage of some sort

in her root

> chakra (this is the stuff I AM knowledgeable in as I teach it lol)

but it is

> a little OT so feel free to contact me regarding the energetic

flow aspect.

>

> I wish you and your wife well

>

> Michelle Brown

>

> mwnotes@p...

>

July 23, 2008

Check www.curezone.com for a list of ideas for help.

-------------- Original message ----------------------

" Hen & Yan " <fa034262

> Hi All,

>

> My husband has this problem and was on Klonopin for several years because of

> it.

> But then he didn't tolerate it anymore.

>

> Do any of you know of something that might help?

>

> Most days it only starts when he falls asleep and then it goes on for a

> couple of hours.

>

> Any alternative suggestions?

>

> Many thanks in advance,

>

> Yannic

Hi All,

My husband has this problem and was on Klonopin for several years because of it.

But then he didn't tolerate it anymore.

Do any of you know of something that might help?

Most days it only starts when he falls asleep and then it goes on for a couple of hours.

Any alternative suggestions?

Many thanks in advance,

Yannic

July 23, 2008

B6 and Magnesium.

Hugh

Hen & Yan <fa034262 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:17:43 PM Restless Legs Syndrome

Hi All,

My husband has this problem and was on Klonopin for several years because of it.

But then he didn't tolerate it anymore.

Do any of you know of something that might help?

Most days it only starts when he falls asleep and then it goes on for a couple of hours.

Any alternative suggestions?

Many thanks in advance,

Yannic

July 23, 2008

It is basically a problem with the sciatic nerve - whatever anyone else might tell you - you may find a good quality Magnesium supplement will help

Best,

Jane

-

Hen & Yan

Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:17 PM

Restless Legs Syndrome

Hi All,

My husband has this problem and was on Klonopin for several years because of it.

But then he didn't tolerate it anymore.

Do any of you know of something that might help?

Most days it only starts when he falls asleep and then it goes on for a couple of hours.

Any alternative suggestions?

Many thanks in advance,

Yannic

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July 23, 2008

Thank you to all who responded:)))

We already tried Mg, but maybe another brand and B6 will do it.

I'll also look around at Curezone.

To our good health,

Yannic

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 7:16 AM, Jane MacRoss <highfield1 wrote:

It is basically a problem with the sciatic nerve - whatever anyone else might tell you - you may find a good quality Magnesium supplement will help

Best,

Jane

-

Hen & Yan

Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:17 PM

Restless Legs Syndrome

Hi All,

My husband has this problem and was on Klonopin for several years because of it.

But then he didn't tolerate it anymore.

Do any of you know of something that might help?

Most days it only starts when he falls asleep and then it goes on for a couple of hours.

Any alternative suggestions?

Many thanks in advance,

Yannic

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July 23, 2008

, " Hen & Yan " <fa034262

wrote:

>

> Hi All,

>

> My husband has this problem and was on Klonopin for several years

because of > it. > But then he didn't tolerate it anymore. Do any of

you know of something that might help?

> Most days it only starts when he falls asleep and then it goes on

for a couple of hours. Any alternative suggestions?

Many thanks in advance,

Yannic

Hi I also suffer from this maladay At times it feels as

though my legs are going to jiggle right off and when that happens

I reach for Cina 6 C it does wonders within about 10 minutes.

That is such a relief. Good health food stores carry homeopathic

remedies and are also able to help you with how to take them. Edith

July 23, 2008

Basically, restless leg syndrome is due to lack of magnesium. There are 2 types of oral mag a person can take, but magnesium is actually better absorbed and used by the body if given transdermally. Mag oil may be purchased, though it can be expensive depending on where you get it, but even the cheaper mag oils work great. Nigari is a dry flake that tofu is made with and is nothing more than the dry version of mag oil. It is much cheaper to buy and add to water to make your own mag oil. Many Asian stores sell it, or you can Google it to buy on line.

Mag oil can be rubbed on the body, allowed to soak for about a half hour or so, and then washed off. It tends to be sticky, and if put on sensitive areas of the body like the face, it can sting. Most people don't have a problem with stinging though. If you don't have a tub to add Nigari flakes to bath water, you can it a bucket and do a foot soak. Get as much water into the bucket as possible so as to get as much above the ankle as you can--the more skin exposed to the mag oil the better. Soak for a half hour and then rinse.

Samala,

Renee

----

Hi I also suffer from this maladay At times it feels as

though my legs are going to jiggle right off and when that happens

I reach for Cina 6 C it does wonders within about 10 minutes.

That is such a relief. Good health food stores carry homeopathic

remedies and are also able to help you with how to take them. Edith

July 24, 2008

Restless leg syndrome is notorious with

aspartame, so be sure your diet is free of this

toxin, as well as MSG. Do not eat processed

foods, natural and artificial flavors. A safe

sweetener is Just Like Sugar, www.justlikesugarinc.com Also in Whole Foods.

Betty

www.mpwhi.com, www.dorway.com and www.wnho.net

Aspartame Toxicity Center, www.holisticmed.com/aspartame

At 01:11 AM 7/23/2008, Hugh Ramsdell wrote:

>B6 and Magnesium.

>

>Hugh

>

>Hen & Yan <fa034262

>

>Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:17:43 PM

> Restless Legs Syndrome

>

>Hi All,

>

>My husband has this problem and was on Klonopin

>for several years because of it.

>But then he didn't tolerate it anymore.

>

>Do any of you know of something that might help?

>

>Most days it only starts when he falls asleep

>and then it goes on for a couple of hours.

>

>Any alternative suggestions?

>

>Many thanks in advance,

>

>Yannic

>

January 31, 2010

My husband suffers (well, HE doesn't suffer, I do, because he usually

sleeps through it!!!) from restless legs. It's getting worse as he

gets older (he's 47 this month). It's like he's running in his sleep

some nights and my sleep suffers. His does a bit, because he doesn't

feel rested in the morning. Currently he has tried various forms of

magnesium and none of them have helped for very long. Most recently

he's tried soaking in epsom salts for a while closer to bedtime. Is

there something else that will be more effective? What might be

causing this?

Thank you

Andrea

February 1, 2010

There's a magnesium oil that supposedly helps restless leg syndrome. It's not

very expensive ($18.00) and might be worth trying... The link is

http://www.globallight.net/Magnesium_30.html

Wynn Free

www.messageaday.net

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Andrea Gauland <tehuafarm

Sat, January 30, 2010 11:16:09 PM