multiple sclerosis

[Guest guest]

I was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis in 1998 so I have quite a lot of

information about for its treatment. (By the way I have

been symptom free for over 5 years now)

 

Contact me off-line if you would like to discuss more.

 

Kind regards

 

Dermot

 

 

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" woodysalcove " <woodysalcove

<Chinese Medicine >

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 1:46 PM

multiple sclerosis

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hello sir,

I am Chintamani bhave , an acupuncturist from India, and my friend who is in

canada,

from 2 yrs back she is having multiple sclerosis problems ,

she did many treatments ,

acupuncture for few days also ,

she is unable to walk now ,

getting more difficult to move .

so sir can u pls reply me . so that we can discuss on this problem ,

 

Waiting for ur reply soon,

 

Chintamani ,

 

Dermot O'Connor <dermot wrote:

 

I was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis in 1998 so I have quite a lot of

information about for its treatment. (By the way I have

been symptom free for over 5 years now)

 

Contact me off-line if you would like to discuss more.

 

Kind regards

 

Dermot

 

 

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" woodysalcove " <woodysalcove

<Chinese Medicine >

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 1:46 PM

multiple sclerosis

 

 

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> Is there any information on multiple sclerosis on this site?

> I did a search and nothing turned up. Seemed kind of strange.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

It seems reasonable to me since MS is not a TCM pattern or D & D.

OTOH Yin Deficiency with a true Yang excess is a TCM Diagnosis which happens to

fairly often (in my experience ) coincide with MS.

 

There are other parts to specific patients tongue and pulse diagnosis as well.

Doc

BTW I have treated about 30 patients with this pattern. Overall CM has a very

good rate of success in controling the course of this pattern.

 

 

woodysalcove <woodysalcove wrote:

 

 

Is there any information on multiple sclerosis on this site?

I did a search and nothing turned up. Seemed kind of strange.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://babel.altavista.com/

 

 

and adjust

accordingly.

 

If you , it takes a few days for the messages to stop being

delivered.

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

MS sufferers will often present with a variety of patterns, from my

experience (and I might have seen a few hundred MS clients at this stage)

there is almost always some Damp accumulation. Therefore diet is an

absolutely critical factor in the treatment of the condition. MS in my

experience is usually a Deficiency condition....Deficiency of Liver Blood,

Deficiency of Kidney Yin and also sometimes Kidney Yang. Of course, like no

Western medically defined condition there are no set rules and I treat in

accordance with the individuals presentation.

 

Kind regards

 

Dermot

 

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" Doc " <Doc

<Chinese Medicine >

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:06 PM

Re: multiple sclerosis

 

 

>

> Hi,

> It seems reasonable to me since MS is not a TCM pattern or D & D.

> OTOH Yin Deficiency with a true Yang excess is a TCM Diagnosis which

happens to fairly often (in my experience ) coincide with MS.

>

> There are other parts to specific patients tongue and pulse diagnosis as

well.

> Doc

> BTW I have treated about 30 patients with this pattern. Overall CM has a

very good rate of success in controling the course of this pattern.

>

>

> woodysalcove <woodysalcove wrote:

>

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> Is there any information on multiple sclerosis on this site?

> I did a search and nothing turned up. Seemed kind of strange.

[Guest guest]

--- Dermot O'Connor <dermot

wrote:

> Of course, like no

Western medically defined condition there are no set

rules and I treat in

accordance with the individuals presentation.<

 

I agree this is what i was trying to point out.

 

> BTW I have treated about 30 patients with this

pattern. <

 

Some day i will learn to type! that should say 130

 

 

 

 

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Doc [Doc]

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 12:07 PM

Chinese Medicine

Re: multiple sclerosis

 

Hi,

It seems reasonable to me since MS is not a TCM pattern or D & D.

 

[Jason]

 

I would disagree with the latter. MS is a TCM disease. Check out ITMonline

for more information.

 

-Jason

 

 

 

OTOH Yin Deficiency with a true Yang excess is a TCM Diagnosis which happens

to fairly often (in my experience ) coincide with MS.

 

There are other parts to specific patients tongue and pulse diagnosis as

well.

Doc

BTW I have treated about 30 patients with this pattern. Overall CM has a

very good rate of success in controling the course of this pattern.

 

 

woodysalcove <woodysalcove wrote:

 

 

Is there any information on multiple sclerosis on this site?

I did a search and nothing turned up. Seemed kind of strange.

[Guest guest]

> Dermot O'Connor <dermot

> wrote:

 

> I was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis in 1998 so I

> have quite a lot of

> information about for its

> treatment. (By the way I have

> been symptom free for over 5 years now)

>

> Contact me off-line if you would like to discuss

> more.

 

Hi Dermot, please discuss it onlist! Also, is there

any way you would post your case to the list?

 

Thank,

Hugo

[Guest guest]

Sure Hugo....what would you like to know?

 

>

> > I was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis in 1998 so I

> > have quite a lot of

> > information about for its

> > treatment. (By the way I have

> > been symptom free for over 5 years now)

> >

> > Contact me off-line if you would like to discuss

> > more.

>

> Hi Dermot, please discuss it onlist! Also, is there

> any way you would post your case to the list?

>

> Thank,

> Hugo

[Guest guest]

Sorry to hear of your daughter. I've heard that hyperbaric oxygen treatment

might be helpful with MS as well as stem cell. Where in California are you?

Leanne

 

>

>My 26 year old daughter, a student in California, has just been diagnosed

>with MS. She's been prescribed Copaxone 20 mg.

[Guest guest]

Are you sure that your daughter didn't take a Fluoroquinolone type

antibiotic sometime before being diagnosed with MS? These types of

antibiotics can cause symptoms that mimic MS. Cipro, Levaquin and

Avelox are three of the most common ones prescribed. They all have

horrible side effects that can last for months to years. They attack

the nervous system and do permanent damage. tby

 

 

 

, " Shyamal Gupta "

<shyamalgupta47 wrote:

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> My 26 year old daughter, a student in California, has just been

diagnosed

> with MS. She's been prescribed Copaxone 20 mg.

[Guest guest]

Have you checked out Aspartane side effects?

 

Jane

 

 

My 26 year old daughter, a student in California, has just been diagnosed

with MS. She's been prescribed Copaxone 20 mg.

[Guest guest]

Shyamal Gupta <shyamalgupta47 wrote: My 26 year old

daughter, a student in California, has just been diagnosed

with MS. She's been prescribed Copaxone 20 mg.

 

I've done a bit of research on MS, and am looking for good articles,

references, etc. on Alternative Medicine treatments.

 

Could folks suggest some ?

 

Other suggestions, advice and sharing of experiences are also very welcome.

I'll of course use these entirely at my own risk and responsibility.

 

Any help appreciated.

 

Thanks.

 

--

Shyamal Gupta

 

 

[Guest guest]

Try a homeopath...ng-

 

My 26 year old daughter, a student in California, has just been diagnosed

with MS. She's been prescribed Copaxone 20 mg.

 

I've done a bit of research on MS, and am looking for good

[Guest guest]

Apartame or Nutrasweet poisoning often mimics MS. Does she consume

" diet " products?

http://www.dorway.com

 

Personally, I would take a prescription drug only as a last resort

after trying every " alternative " therapy I could find and afford.

 

I suggest reading everything you can about the Marshall Protocol, as

MS is an autoimmune disease.

http://www.marshallprotocol.com/

The forum format is a bit difficult to find your way to information quickly.

Here's a good place to start:

http://www.marshallprotocol.com/forum2/364.html

 

This is about a recent finding

http://www.marshallprotocol.com/view_topic.php?id=7987 & forum_id=11 & highlight=mul\

tiple+sclerosis

 

Also go to http://www.mercola.com and run a search on sclerosis.

It comes up with 743 hits, the first 10 look very interesting.

 

 

At 01:44 PM 5/11/2007, you wrote:

> >My 26 year old daughter, a student in California, has just been diagnosed

> >with MS. She's been prescribed Copaxone 20 mg.

[Guest guest]

http://curezone.com/dis/1.asp?C0=233

About Multiple Sclerosis

 

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=829498#i

10 people cured or in remission

Debra D Kaiser -remove

<http://curezone.com/c/?http://curezone.com/faq/c.asp?a=3,76>Amalgam

fillings + chelation + ozone therapysymptom free 2 years

Jacque C. Rigg -diet + supplements + mind power

Nancy Delise -colloidal silversymptom free 2 years

Gina Kopera -fasting + diet + exercise + cayennesymptom free 4 years

Lisa Cochran -remove amalgam fillingssymptom free after 10 days

Dale Humpherys -diet + supplements + injectionssymptom free 2 years

Roger mcdougall -diet + supplementscondition improve after 4 years treatment

Lourd Pilgrim

Jean-Pierre Bély -Grotto of Lourdes1 day miracle cure

Donna Carver -water fast cleanse 3 weeks 93% symptom free

Ken Presner -remove amalgam fillings

Dermott Oconner - remove amalgam fillings, diet,

supplement, positive mind training - 1 year

Linda Brocato - remove amalgam fillingsMS symptom free

 

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=845854#i

i believe the cure is iodine.

i had thought for a long time that colloidal

silver would be effective but never got a

confirmation on that till now. this is good,

because CS doubles for iodine in the body by

performing many of iodine's extrathyroid

functions like immune system enhancement and tissue repair.

i am not surpised about diet. i think the iodine

protocol and eating, wearing, and swishing some

quality oils is all it would take. avoidance of

mercury and fluoride is essential as well

 

And lots more in the forum

http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=6

 

At 01:44 PM 5/11/2007, you wrote:

> >My 26 year old daughter, a student in California, has just been diagnosed

> >with MS. She's been prescribed Copaxone 20 mg.

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Leanne

 

I'm in Mumbai, India. My daughter is in Claremont, CA -- about 30 miles from

downtown LA.

 

Will check out the hyperbaric oxygen treatment.

[Guest guest]

On 5/12/07, Jane MacRoss <highfield1 wrote:

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> Have you checked out Aspartane side effects?

>

> Jane

 

 

She's never been fond of sodas, and in particular colas. Unless she's

changed on this in the last yaer and a half. I'll check.

 

Thanks, Jane.

[Guest guest]

http://www.lowdosenaltrexone.org/ldn_and_ms.htm

 

Dr. Hans Nieper had success with 2-AEP Membrane Complex, Calcium 2-AEP and

Lithium Orotate. Do your research on these supplements.

 

Healthy diet, elimination of white flour and sugar, elimination of grocery

store dairy and elimination of gluten. 30-40 minutes of sunshine daily.

The Johanna Budwig diet would be a good place to begin.

 

Eliminate of physical and emotional stressors is very necessary. Lymphatic

drainage including skin brushing and mini-trampoline.

 

 

Be Well--

Loretta Lanphier, ND, CN, HHP, CH

www.oawhealth.com

[Guest guest]

, " Nora Gottlieb "

<nwgott wrote:

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> Try a homeopath...ng-

>

> My 26 year old daughter, a student in California, has just been

diagnosed

> with MS. She's been prescribed Copaxone 20 mg.

>

> I've done a bit of research on MS, and am looking for good

>

Theres an interesting article in the May 10 issue at Mercola.com it

is about Rheumatoid arthitis and MS good luck . Heres a link to a

video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMAey7iGfbI Thanks Vince

[Guest guest]

snippet from:

http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0203CAT/royal.lee.lets.live.articles.htm

Evidence is accumulating to show that multiple sclerosis is a result

of deficiencies in which vitamin E complex (as found in butter) is

vitally involved. (12) Further, vitamin E is now found to be a remedy

for the disorders of menopause, (13) showing how these deficiency

diseases follow their victim through life.

 

>At 01:44 PM 5/11/2007, you wrote:

> > >My 26 year old daughter, a student in California, has just been diagnosed

> > >with MS. She's been prescribed Copaxone 20 mg.

[Guest guest]

Hello Shyamal.

It is not just soft drinks, by a long shot. Aspartame is also in most diet

foods - or 'low' sugar and 'no' sugar foods. Many people don't realize that

they are ingesting aspartame as it also goes by several names - however they are

all actually aspartame -- Equal, Nutrasweet, Equal Measure, Spoonful and

more. It is best to stay away from any food that has artificial sugar in them.

And a similar chemical of the same 'family' Excitotoxins, is also in foods and

gives many people health problems is MSG. And a lot of people are not aware

that sulphites cause similar adverse effects as MSG - I found that out last year

when I went to a new doctor and found sulphites in the REAL lemon which I was

using everyday [ since stopping that, my stamina and energy has increased 5

fold, and many other benefits.] Though MSG is the same kind of chemical as

Aspartame it's effects do not seem to be as lasting [except with cancer] as

those

of aspartame. And they are both very additive.

I have tons of urls for aspartame, splenda, and msg. These are only a

few below. [ I have included a url for safe sweeteners ]

best wishes

Shan

 

Multiple Sclerosis Information

Ingestion of aspartame adds to toxic reactions within the myelin,

exacerbating Multiple Sclerosis symptoms.

http://www.sweetpoison.com/multiple-sclerosis.html

 

ASPARTAME & MSG, Truth in Food Labeling for Food Additives

Lists of food additives that, according to Dr. Blaylock, always contain

MSG/ASPARTATE: and so on.

http://webworker.com/er4yt/display_msgdisguise.html

 

FDA LIST OF 92 SYMPTOMS ON ASPARTAME (NUTRASWEET/EQUAL/SPOONFUL, E951,

CANDEREL, ETC.)

http://www.mpwhi.com/fda_92_symptoms_on_aspartame.htm

 

Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills

http://healthpress.com/aspartame.html

 

Aspartame Dangers - Aspartame Side Effects!

Lots of info including Side Effects, Other Sweeteners, Detox info,Detox

Process, Detox Components, FM & aspartame, MS & aspartame, newsletters,

aspartame

organizations, support group, many articles

http://www.sweetpoison.com/aspartame-articles.html

http://www.picklenetwork.com/aspartame-dangers/

 

Equal, Nutrasweet, Equal Measure, Spoonful

DORway consists of around 800 WEB pages (approximately 12,000 printed pages)

of solid time-tested documentation that aspartame is neither a decent diet

aid... nor was it ever proven to be safe!

http://www.dorway.com/

 

The Truth About Splenda

Splenda's advertising claims that it is'Made from Sugar, so it Tastes like

Sugar' What they don't tell you is that Splenda is not natural, it's a

chlorinated artificial sweetener. Learn more ..

http://www.truthaboutsplenda.com/

 

Splenda Toxicity Reaction Samples (Updated 2/13/2006)

http://www.holisticmed.com/splenda/splenda-adverse.txt

 

Also see the sucralose/Splenda reviews by Dr. Joseph Mercola at: ***

http://www.mercola.com/2000/dec/3/sucralose_dangers.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2000/dec/3/sucralose_testimonials.htm

http://www.mercola.com/fcgi/pf/2004/jul/21/splenda.htm

http://www.mercola.com/2003/nov/8/splenda_dangers.htm

 

Healthier Sweetener Resource List

http://www.holisticmed.com/sweet/sweet.txt

 

MSG

 

Organic Consumers Association

MSG in Conventional Foods:

MSG Hides Behind 25+ Names, Such As 'Natural Flavouring' MSG Is Also In Your

Favorite Coffee Shops And Drive-Ups

http://www.organicconsumers.org/foodsafety/msg091405.cfm

 

The Slow Poisoning of America

Fluoride, MSG, Aspartame

https://www.spofamerica.com/index.php

 

MonoSodium Glutamate

(a.k.a.) - MSG - Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein, Accent - Aginomoto - Natural

Meet Tenderizer, etc.

The Scientifically Proven Negative Effects of MSG

http://www.advancedhealthplan.com/msginfo.html

 

Migraines and MSG

http://myweb.magicnet.net/~btnature/

 

Monosodium Glutamate (MSG) Reaction Samples

http://www.holisticmed.com/msg/msg.txt

 

 

 

 

Re: Multiple Sclerosis

 

Posted by: " Shyamal Gupta " shyamalgupta47   shyamalg

 

Sat May 12, 2007 7:57 am (PST) On 5/12/07, Jane MacRoss <

highfield1 wrote:

>

> Have you checked out Aspartane side effects?

>

> Jane

 

She's never been fond of sodas, and in particular colas. Unless she's

changed on this in the last yaer and a half. I'll check.

 

Thanks, Jane.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I wouldn't be surprised that vitamin E plays apart in M.S. However ,

this isn't the only nutrurent the would play a part in M.S. development.There

have been studies that have linked M.S. to vitamin D deficency. It is know that

people who live closer to the equator are less likely to develope M.S.Also fair

skin people who are more likely to avoid sun exposer are more likely to develope

M.S.With the development of sunscreens the number of cases of M.S. have

increased.It is also important for nerves to be supplied with Vitamin B complex.

 

There is another study that linked M.S. to trama to the tailbone in

younger yrs. The study claims that most M.S. victims can recall a time that they

had fall where the tailbone was injured.Howerver,I wonder how many people

haven't experienced a trama to the tailbone as a child.

 

I have a friend who use bee venom therapy to treat her M.S. While bee

venom has it's risk ,she as had good results.There are several sites on the web

for anyone who would like to reseach it.

GOOG LUCK!

[Guest guest]

I would like to second the aspartame argument and also add that she

needs to get splenda out of her diet. I can testify to the adverse

affects of splenda. In my case it affected my cycle as well as

muscle problems.

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[Guest guest]

Yes, I agree.We need to be eating real food not artifical food.Whats

more we should strive to eat food that is close to what nature had entended,not

stripped of any food value.I would add get rid og the food coloring.

 

 

 

Tina <mommyon731 wrote:

I would like to second the aspartame argument and also add that she

needs to get splenda out of her diet. I can testify to the adverse

affects of splenda. In my case it affected my cycle as well as

muscle problems.

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.

 

 

[Guest guest]

A friend of mine is suffering from multiple sclerosis. getting allopathy

treatment.. can anyone suggest alternate theraphy?? Thanks

 

Nagarajan