Fibromyalgia

[Guest guest]

Hi ALice,

 

Suggestions:Carlson's brand of cod liver oil: great anti-inflammatory and overall great for your health

MSM: good for joints and anti-inflammatory

Glucosamine and Chondroitin: good for bones and cartilage

Juicing fresh fruits and veggies: great way to cleanse and alkalize the body

 

Tonya

 

 

pink6272000 [pink6272000] Thursday, January 20, 2005 2:19 PMherbal remedies Subject: Herbal Remedies - FibromyalgiaDoes anyone have any advice for fibromyalgia? I am taking 5 HTP and watching what I eat. I have found from past experience that aspertame and the night shade vegetable seem to make it worse.Would appreciate any advice at all being that I really don´t want togo on antidepressants.AliceFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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Hi Alice,

 

I have this also, and am usually able to keep most of my symptoms under

control with a magnesium/malic acid supplement made especially for people

with FMS/CFS, B Vitamins, and a joint care supplement containing MSM,

Glucosamine, and Chondroitin Sulfate. The magnesium/malic acid is very

important, since most people with Fibro have a chronic deficiency in

these. Also, Melatonin helps with the underlying sleep disorder that

causes most of the symptoms.

 

> Does anyone have any advice for fibromyalgia? I am taking 5 HTP and

> watching what I eat. I have found from past experience that

> aspertame and the night shade vegetable seem to make it worse.

> Would appreciate any advice at all being that I really don´t want

> to go on antidepressants.

 

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RE: malic acid

 

You can cut down your costs by eating organic apples and Apple juice , which is far better than a tablet and good natural way of taking it

 

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herbal remedies

01/21/05 16:10:30

herbal remedies

Re: Herbal Remedies - Fibromyalgia

Hi Alice,I have this also, and am usually able to keep most of my symptoms under control with a magnesium/malic acid supplement made especially for people with FMS/CFS, B Vitamins, and a joint care supplement containing MSM, Glucosamine, and Chondroitin Sulfate. The magnesium/malic acid is very important, since most people with Fibro have a chronic deficiency in these. Also, Melatonin helps with the underlying sleep disorder that causes most of the symptoms.> Does anyone have any advice for fibromyalgia? I am taking 5 HTP and> watching what I eat. I have found from past experience that> aspertame and the night shade vegetable seem to make it worse.> Would appreciate any advice at all being that I really don´t want> to go on antidepressants.-- Sara Greathouse in OhiosfatulaOwner: TPW_Health_ForumModerator: PagansWithChronicPainStanding Together for Adequate TreatmentFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hello group,

 

My name is Sharon. I am a 32 year old female with 2 children. I

suffer from fibromyalgia. I have had it since I was 22. The doctors

" stumbled " upon it when I went to the ER with what I thought was a blood

clot in my leg. My sister has blood clots and I was having the same

symptoms so when I called to set up a Dr. appointment the nurse told me to

go to the ER. The doctors performed many tests and couldn't find anything

and checked me for lupus....when it came back negative they sent me to a

rhuematologist. yadda yadda yadda.....Fibro!!! I am just learning a more

natural approach to living and am really hoping that someone has had success

with certain herbs to ease the pain of fibro or to heal it. I am on a whole

food supplement, vit A, Vit E, folic acid, B12, cranberry and garlic.....the

doc has me on paxil for anxiety but I am weening myself off of it. I am

starting a colon cleanse tonight and will eventually do a total body

cleanse. Well, that is kinda me in a nutshell.....I am sure I will learn

ALOT from this group...I am so glad I found ya!

 

Sharon

Indiana

 

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I too had suffered from fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome. I also have osteo arthritis, and degenerative vertabrae. I was on the "merry go round" with the med. docs, and all they did was drug me into oblivion.

 

I was actually bed ridden for 1 1/2 years, that's how bad the pain got. It was 24/7 around the clock. At this time someone introduced me to the miracle 2 products. I started bathing in them for 30 min. everynite, and drinking the neutralizer. I also got every chemical out of my house, and started using the miracle 2 products to replace everything. Within 2 weeks 80% of my pain was gone. That was 3 years ago, I got off the "merry go round" and stick with the miracle 2 products, and I very very rarely ever have a flair up anymore. They literally gave me back my life. The products are organic and all natural, they balance the ph in your body, and get the toxins out. The only thing you have to watch is where you get the products. Some of the company's that sell them, are not selling the original products. I have dealt with one company inparticular at www.miracle2angels.com and they have been wonderful. I don't sell these products, or gain from any profits. It's just that I have found that they have great customer service, fast shipping, and very resonable prices. If anyone has anymore questions you can feel free to e-mail me.

 

Blessings,

Vicki

[Guest guest]

i have cousin who has fibromyalgia it and she was told to cut all red meat out of her diet and she said that has helped alot. Charlene <silk_mistress1946 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Fibromyalgia

Sorry if I have spelled this incorrectly. I was speaking with my cousin today and she told me her doctor said she "probably" has Fibromyalgia. Not that she does have....just maybe.

I went to the files section of the group and spent a very long time going through them looking for references to the things to do/take for it. I came up empty handed.

Being new to the herbal way of doing things I am at a total loss as to how to help her out. I told her I would check on this group and see what was in the files......now i am finding nothing. She is a great person in her late 40's with a hubby 62 and their daughter 13. She works at Texas Tech University in administration/scholarships-loans. She is in need of help....so I am looking to you to help me--- help her....

thank you so very much, Charlene

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I will be exhausted and well use when I arrive at the grave...

Screaming...DAMN what a RIDE...

Charlene

 

 

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will pass that along...thanks

charlenecolleen merritt <undrthbld wrote:

 

i have cousin who has fibromyalgia it and she was told to cut all red meat out of her diet and she said that has helped alot. Charlene <silk_mistress1946 wrote:

 

 

 

 

Fibromyalgia

Sorry if I have spelled this incorrectly. I was speaking with my cousin today and she told me her doctor said she "probably" has Fibromyalgia. Not that she does have....just maybe.

I went to the files section of the group and spent a very long time going through them looking for references to the things to do/take for it. I came up empty handed.

Being new to the herbal way of doing things I am at a total loss as to how to help her out. I told her I would check on this group and see what was in the files......now i am finding nothing. She is a great person in her late 40's with a hubby 62 and their daughter 13. She works at Texas Tech University in administration/scholarships-loans. She is in need of help....so I am looking to you to help me--- help her....

thank you so very much, Charlene

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I will be exhausted and well use when I arrive at the grave...

Screaming...DAMN what a RIDE...

Charlene

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I will be exhausted and well use when I arrive at the grave...

Screaming...DAMN what a RIDE...

Charlene

 

 

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Robin, have you considered bad bowel flora - dysbiosis is a leading

cause or aggravating factor for fibromyalgia. Here's some of the

science:

 

Small Intestinal Bacterial overgrowth (SIBO) in fibromyalgia and

irritable bowel syndrome (British Medical Journal 2004)

http://tinyurl.com/y24bmw

 

SIBO introduction:

http://www.medicinenet.com/small_intestinal_bacterial_overgrowth/artic

le.htm

 

Discuss these things in detail on the candidiasis group:

candidiasis

 

Major Ph balance and toxin load reduction can be accomplished with

inulin, undenatured whey, and selenium.

 

Bonnie

 

, " snickers2261 "

<long.robin wrote:

> I don't exercise much except walking because my muscles just hurt.

> The cold weather doesn't help with the pain either.

>

> Now....does anyone have any suggestions on what else I can do? I'm

> looking into the olive leaf extract and wondering if that might

> help. But I'm also wondering what is going to help get my body PH

> level up? I'd love to hear suggestions and thoughts.

>

> Thank you so much!

> ~Robin

>

[Guest guest]

I done a lot of research on a number of medical issues and I have

found that time after time, many problems can be traced to or

exacerbated by an insufficiency of magnesium... Personally, I doubt

that 90% of the US get anywhere near the amount of magnesium that they

require to stay healthy (JMHO)

Cynthia

, Sandra Zawada

<skzawada wrote:

>

> Robin,

> Everything that you are doing sounds great. But you forgot

magnesium. Now, there are approximately seven kinds of magnesium that

are used for supplements. The trick is finding the one or perhaps two

that will work for you. Not all kinds of magnesium will work for an

individual. A very good kind of magnesium if it works for you is in

power form - CALM. It is fast acting. Just make sure you take

enough. I used to hurt all the time and was in bed for days at a

time. I took 1500 mg of magnesium in the morning and just before

going to bed. In two years I was over the debilitating pain. I was

taking other things as well. A lot of people that I've recommended

magnesium to have been helped over a lot of ailments including

fibromyalgia.

> Good success.

> Sam

>

> Tara Borosh <colbyjack98 wrote: I am new here and wanted to

offer some advice since I too was diagnosed with FM. One thing that I

would suggest is to get your hormones checked, esp your thyroid.

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for all this help! I've joined this Candidiasis group &

hope to get alot of info there. I've started taking a CAL-MAG Citrate

Powder recommended by my NP by Thorne Research. It has 500mg of

Vitamin C, 500 mg of Calcium & 200mg of Magnesium in each scoop,

suppose to take 2 scoops a day. Not sure if that's enough tho. I

also take probiotics, but wondering which is best as the reports I

read you posted says many are ineffective.

~Robin

 

, " Bonnie Moss "

<bonnie0moss wrote:

>

> Robin, have you considered bad bowel flora - dysbiosis is a leading

> cause or aggravating factor for fibromyalgia. Here's some of the

> science:

[Guest guest]

My own experience and opinion - fibromyalia is the ailment of the processed and

pasteurized food generation. Eleminate both, have lots of omega oils and get

your health back. Eat real food!!!

 

Bethanne Elion

Nutrition Activist

Poultney,VT

[Guest guest]

Hello Moshe,

 

You'll find many links here concerning Fibromyalgia. I give you only

this one but maybe you would like to check them all...

http://health./message/14486

 

Just one tip, my 2 cents. The last researches indicate that we need a

higher dose of Magnesium when taken with Calcium.

Usually there is 1 part Magnesium / 2 parts Calcium (1:2) but new

research advice 1:1, the same Magnesium dose as Calcium.

 

Beside these, I suggest also Malic Acid and B6 vitamin.

 

Now very important, I suggest your lady friend to take a wonder

supplement - COLOSTRUM.

Colostrum contains large numbers of antibodies called " secretory

immunoglobulin " (IgA). It is a natural supplement which supports

immune system function. Don't worry, the little babies take it, too.

You can find a good deal on iherb.com - Symbiotics, Colostrum Plus

Powder, 21 oz

 

Finally: a lot of fruits, vegetables, juices, nuts, seeds, etc

 

Ok, let us just know in a month how well she is doing.

 

Vasile, Romania

 

 

 

 

, " moshe_40505 "

<noachite wrote:

>

> I have a lady frand that comes in where I work and she needs to know

> what you can do for Fibromyalgia. I would like to here from the groop.

> Your frand moshe.

>

[Guest guest]

If I had Fibromyalgia,I would look for a good massotherapist who did deep

tissue workand an accupunturist. I woulld also take ginger.Since sleeping is a

problem with this disorder I would use melatonin and get the CD from

www.power-nap.com .She will need to do a little homework in finding a doctor

since a lot of doctors don't believe that this disorder exist and many of them

are clueless in treating it. Try to find a support group in you area.Your local

library should have a directory of support groups. It is als important to keep

moving and not to give in to the pain.

 

 

 

moshe_40505 <noachite wrote:

I have a lady frand that comes in where I work and she needs to know

what you can do for Fibromyalgia. I would like to here from the groop.

Your frand moshe.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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-- In , " moshe_40505 "

<noachite wrote:

>

> I have a lady frand that comes in where I work and she needs to know

> what you can do for Fibromyalgia. I would like to here from the

groop.

> Your frand moshe.

>

[Guest guest]

I have fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome. Fibromyalgia is nothing

but a catch-all phrase for a similar set of symptoms. Not surprisingly,

these same set of symptoms are the symtpoms of hypothyroidism and adrenal

fatigue. Is this person by any chance hypothyrodid and on synthetic thyroid

replacement?

 

Here are some good links:

 

http://www.fibroandfatigue.com/documents/clinical/Are%20all%20CFS%20FM%20patient\

s%20low%20thyroid.pdf

 

http://www.drlowe.com/

 

 

 

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>

> , " moshe_40505 "

> <noachite wrote:

>>

>> I have a lady frand that comes in where I work and she needs to know

>> what you can do for Fibromyalgia. I would like to here from the groop.

>> Your frand moshe.

[Guest guest]

you know.. that's well said.. i have never traveled.. but i said the same

thing.. with all the stuff they put in foods to preserve.. i agree it is making

up sick.

 

pilotdad28645 <pilotdad28645 wrote: My

wife has Fibromyalgia. She has discovered that with a limited food

diet she could function normally.

We just got back from Costa Rica on a all exclusive vacation ( she

figured she could eat fruit anyway). She ate everything with no ill

effects. I believe the food in the U.S. is what's making people sick.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I, too, have fibromyalgia and watch very carefully what I eat. I

believe that processed foods, additives, artificial sweeteners etc.

definitely contribute to fibro and have found that through my own

experimentation. My first rule now is: read the ingredient list on

everything.

 

 

 

 

> My wife has Fibromyalgia. She has discovered that with a limited food

> diet she could function normally.

> We just got back from Costa Rica on a all exclusive vacation ( she

> figured she could eat fruit anyway). She ate everything with no ill

> effects. I believe the food in the U.S. is what's making people sick.

>

[Guest guest]

I agree.I am also very careful with what I eat..and I think the foods in the

US aren't as natural and fresh as they are in other countries. We have the

highest rate of obesity..and I am sure the highest rate of disease,

everywhere I turn someone I know or someone they know has cancer, or

diabetes. I'd love to eat pure organic however its so expensive who can

afford it.

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of

earthmother1111

Tuesday, February 12, 2008 2:32 PM

 

Re: Fibromyalgia

 

 

 

 

I, too, have fibromyalgia and watch very carefully what I eat. I

believe that processed foods, additives, artificial sweeteners etc.

definitely contribute to fibro and have found that through my own

experimentation. My first rule now is: read the ingredient list on

everything.

 

> My wife has Fibromyalgia. She has discovered that with a limited food

> diet she could function normally.

> We just got back from Costa Rica on a all exclusive vacation ( she

> figured she could eat fruit anyway). She ate everything with no ill

> effects. I believe the food in the U.S. is what's making people sick.

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I also have fibromyalgia. I've checked into a lot of different forums

and every one seems to be the same. The drugs the docs prescribe

don't work. Other recent research I've done shows that we are low in

magnesium and other nutrients. I've come to the conclusion that alot

of it has to do with our food and environments. I've joined a co-op

where I can order food online from local farmers. I have the choice

here of whether to order from organic or traditional farmers. It's

not cheap but is healthier. I hope also to grow some of my own

veggies and herbs, in containers if need be and to pick up the rest

from local organic farmers. Most toxins have been removed from my

environment. I use vinegar and baking soda for most of my cleaning.

Plants for air purification. Even my laundry detergent is non-toxic.

And I have more good days than bad days. We can only do the best with

what we have and strive to live as healthy as possible.

 

 

, " Christine

Marcinek " <mysweet3 wrote:

>

> I agree.I am also very careful with what I eat..and I think the

foods in the

> US aren't as natural and fresh as they are in other countries. We

have the

> highest rate of obesity..and I am sure the highest rate of disease,

> everywhere I turn someone I know or someone they know has cancer, or

> diabetes. I'd love to eat pure organic however its so expensive

who can

> afford it.

>

>

>

>

> On Behalf Of

> earthmother1111

> Tuesday, February 12, 2008 2:32 PM

>

> Re: Fibromyalgia

>

>

>

>

> I, too, have fibromyalgia and watch very carefully what I eat. I

> believe that processed foods, additives, artificial sweeteners etc.

> definitely contribute to fibro and have found that through my own

> experimentation. My first rule now is: read the ingredient list on

> everything.

>

> > My wife has Fibromyalgia. She has discovered that with a limited

food

> > diet she could function normally.

> > We just got back from Costa Rica on a all exclusive vacation ( she

> > figured she could eat fruit anyway). She ate everything with no

ill

> > effects. I believe the food in the U.S. is what's making people

sick.

>

[Guest guest]

In 99 I was dx with fibro-possible MS. I did most

things that you are referring too but what made a huge

difference for me was dealing with feelings that I had

burried alive - I used EFT. In 04 I ran a half

marathon and in 05 a full one - would have never even

thought that possible in any years prior to 01. Keep

up the great work!

--- dkhoek2 <dkhoek2 wrote:

 

> I also have fibromyalgia. I've checked into a lot of

> different forums

> and every one seems to be the same. The drugs the

> docs prescribe

> don't work. Other recent research I've done shows

> that we are low in

> magnesium and other nutrients. I've come to the

> conclusion that alot

> of it has to do with our food and environments. I've

> joined a co-op

> where I can order food online from local farmers. I

> have the choice

> here of whether to order from organic or traditional

> farmers. It's

> not cheap but is healthier. I hope also to grow some

> of my own

> veggies and herbs, in containers if need be and to

> pick up the rest

> from local organic farmers. Most toxins have been

> removed from my

> environment. I use vinegar and baking soda for most

> of my cleaning.

> Plants for air purification. Even my laundry

> detergent is non-toxic.

> And I have more good days than bad days. We can only

> do the best with

> what we have and strive to live as healthy as

> possible.

>

>

> ,

> " Christine

> Marcinek " <mysweet3 wrote:

> >

> > I agree.I am also very careful with what I

> eat..and I think the

> foods in the

> > US aren't as natural and fresh as they are in

> other countries. We

> have the

> > highest rate of obesity..and I am sure the highest

> rate of disease,

> > everywhere I turn someone I know or someone they

> know has cancer, or

> > diabetes. I'd love to eat pure organic however

> its so expensive

> who can

> > afford it.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

> On Behalf Of

> > earthmother1111

> > Tuesday, February 12, 2008 2:32 PM

> >

> > Re:

> Fibromyalgia

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I, too, have fibromyalgia and watch very carefully

> what I eat. I

> > believe that processed foods, additives,

> artificial sweeteners etc.

> > definitely contribute to fibro and have found that

> through my own

> > experimentation. My first rule now is: read the

> ingredient list on

> > everything.

> >

> > > My wife has Fibromyalgia. She has discovered

> that with a limited

> food

> > > diet she could function normally.

> > > We just got back from Costa Rica on a all

> exclusive vacation ( she

> > > figured she could eat fruit anyway). She ate

> everything with no

> ill

> > > effects. I believe the food in the U.S. is

> what's making people

> sick.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

>

>

>

 

 

 

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What is EFT?

 

, Anne Davison

<tillsthegarden wrote:

>

> In 99 I was dx with fibro-possible MS. I did most

> things that you are referring too but what made a huge

> difference for me was dealing with feelings that I had

> burried alive - I used EFT. In 04 I ran a half

> marathon and in 05 a full one - would have never even

> thought that possible in any years prior to 01. Keep

> up the great work!

> --- dkhoek2 <dkhoek2 wrote:

>

> > I also have fibromyalgia. I've checked into a lot of

> > different forums

> > and every one seems to be the same. The drugs the

> > docs prescribe

> > don't work. Other recent research I've done shows

> > that we are low in

> > magnesium and other nutrients. I've come to the

> > conclusion that alot

> > of it has to do with our food and environments. I've

> > joined a co-op

> > where I can order food online from local farmers. I

> > have the choice

> > here of whether to order from organic or traditional

> > farmers. It's

> > not cheap but is healthier. I hope also to grow some

> > of my own

> > veggies and herbs, in containers if need be and to

> > pick up the rest

> > from local organic farmers. Most toxins have been

> > removed from my

> > environment. I use vinegar and baking soda for most

> > of my cleaning.

> > Plants for air purification. Even my laundry

> > detergent is non-toxic.

> > And I have more good days than bad days. We can only

> > do the best with

> > what we have and strive to live as healthy as

> > possible.

> >

> >

> > ,

> > " Christine

> > Marcinek " <mysweet3@> wrote:

> > >

> > > I agree.I am also very careful with what I

> > eat..and I think the

> > foods in the

> > > US aren't as natural and fresh as they are in

> > other countries. We

> > have the

> > > highest rate of obesity..and I am sure the highest

> > rate of disease,

> > > everywhere I turn someone I know or someone they

> > know has cancer, or

> > > diabetes. I'd love to eat pure organic however

> > its so expensive

> > who can

> > > afford it.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> > On Behalf Of

> > > earthmother1111

> > > Tuesday, February 12, 2008 2:32 PM

> > >

> > > Re:

> > Fibromyalgia

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I, too, have fibromyalgia and watch very carefully

> > what I eat. I

> > > believe that processed foods, additives,

> > artificial sweeteners etc.

> > > definitely contribute to fibro and have found that

> > through my own

> > > experimentation. My first rule now is: read the

> > ingredient list on

> > > everything.

> > >

> > > > My wife has Fibromyalgia. She has discovered

> > that with a limited

> > food

> > > > diet she could function normally.

> > > > We just got back from Costa Rica on a all

> > exclusive vacation ( she

> > > > figured she could eat fruit anyway). She ate

> > everything with no

> > ill

> > > > effects. I believe the food in the U.S. is

> > what's making people

> > sick.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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, " patmikrut " <patmikrut

wrote:

>

> what r some natural cures for this my can this be cured I believe it can i

just nee to talk with the right people would appreciate any help or even natural

health Drs in Illinois or near Burbank il or downers grove my girlfriend has

had this for yrs she is on some type of meds want her not to poison her system

with that stuff thank you for your help pat from burbank

>

Hi, I am sending links to what has helped some, and some that has helped me. The

idea was to avoid harmful drugs.

 

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090417084002.htm

 

www.healingnaturallybybee.com

 

Cindy C.

[Guest guest]

Hi Cindy,

 

I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia in December and am on several medications,

some of which help, but never really seem to the trick. I recently started

taking magnesium on the suggestion of a naturopath I met recenlty. It has done

wonders for my pain! Specifically, I am taking a highly absorbable magnesium

400-600 mg a day. The specific brand is Mag Glycinate by Metagenics. I highly

recommend this. I was also told that fish oil is helpful as well, although I

have not yet started taking it.

 

I hope this helps and I hope you find the right combination for you as quickly

as possible.

 

Erika

 

, primalmommieto5 wrote:

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> In a message dated 12/30/2004 8:22:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> ombass writes:

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> I am looking to combat fibromyalgia

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> What do you do for this??

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[Guest guest]

I think Fibromyalgia is more a case of 'treatment isn't the same for

everybody'. What might work for me might not work for someone else.

 

I was diagnosed 2 and a half years ago, but I've kept it under control by

exercise, yoga and eating well. The medications that were offered to me did

no good whatsoever, they only exacerbated the problem.

 

I think the main key to dealing with fibro (or any other dibilitating

diagnosis) is maintaining a positive outlook on life and yourself. I am not

the diagnosis or illness. I am not defined by this. It is something that I

have that I must cope with and come to grips with. I know the times of the

year when it affects me most, I pay attention to my body telling me when

I've overdone it.

 

IMHO the internet is ripe with erroneous information regarding fibromyalgia.

It's another " new " dis-ease that few people (other than the sufferers)

understand. Sharing here is the only way we can help each other. If you're

interested I can let you know more of what has helped me.

 

Peace,

 

Jem

 

--

" People who have well-being of mind, even if the Buddha is not present,

will receive Dharma from the midst of the sky, walls and trees. For those

Bodhisattvas whose minds are pure, teachings and instructions will appear

just by the wishes in their minds. "

-The Buddha

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone,

 

A friend s to an online medical journal where they have all kinds of

clinical studies, etc. I was exploring it for information for an article I'm

writing and found this on Fibromyalgia. Thought you might find it helpful. It's

rather technical, but provides good info.

 

Michelle

http://www.HolisticMenopause.com

 

 

Treatment of fibromyalgia syndrome with Super Malic: a randomized,

double blind, placebo controlled, crossover pilot study

Russell IJ, Michalek JE, Flechas JD, Abraham GE.

 

FROM ABSTRACT

 

OBJECTIVE.

 

To study the efficacy and safety of Super Malic, a proprietary tablet containing

malic acid (200 mg) and magnesium (50 mg), in treatment of primary fibromyalgia

syndrome.

 

The 3 primary outcome variables were measures of pain and tenderness but

functional and psychological measures were also assessed.

 

RESULTS.

 

With dose escalation and a longer duration of treatment in the open label trial,

significant reductions in the severity of all 3 primary pain/tenderness measures

were obtained without limiting risks.

 

CONCLUSIONS.

 

These data suggest that Super Malic is safe and may be beneficial in the

treatment of patients with fibromyalgia.

 

THESE AUTHORS ALSO NOTE:

 

" One proposed explanation for the soft tissue pain experienced by patients with

fibromyalgia was that muscle energy metabolism may be compromised. "

 

Abnormal blood flow may deprive muscle of sufficient oxygen and other

nutrients.

 

Several studies show that the muscles of patients with fibromyalgia are

deficient in ATP and magnesium.

 

" Malic acid, a naturally occurring, nontoxic, organic dicarboxylic acid, and

magnesium are both known to be involved in the processes of generating ATP. "

 

Malic acid and magnesium " play a pivotal role in mitochondrial ATP

synthesis. "

 

A rationale for the combined use of malic acid and magnesium in the

treatment of fibromyalgia has been proposed, and a prior study treating

fibromyalgia patients with malic acid and magnesium " reported dramatic relief

from pain. "

 

This study was designed to test the hypothesis.

 

Malic acid is " widely distributed in the vegetable kingdom including

concentrations of 4 to 8 g/l of apple juice. "

 

Studies have shown that malic acid plus magnesium can increase

mitochondrial production of ATP energy.

 

During this study, no " adverse events could be attributed to malic acid and/or

magnesium. "

 

In this study, " the results from the open label trial were very encouraging. "

 

The best results were observed from " use of a higher dosage and longer

duration of treatment " with malic acid and magnesium.

 

Study results " indicate that it may be beneficial on the painful fibromyalgia

symptoms in dosages in excess of 8 tablets/day for up to 6 months. "

 

[8 tablets X 200 mg per tablet = 1600 mg malic acid per day]

[8 tablets X 50 mg per tablet = 400 mg magnesium per day]

 

The proposed mechanism for the benefit of malic acid plus magnesium

supplementation is that they " increase production of ATP. "

 

" Energy generation may not be normal in fibromyalgia since ATP is low in muscle

tender points and in red cells. "

 

KEY POINTS FROM DR. DAN MURPHY

 

1) An explanation for the soft tissue pain experienced by patients with

fibromyalgia was that muscle energy production of ATP may be compromised.

 

2) Also, abnormal blood flow may deprive muscle of sufficient oxygen and other

nutrients.

 

3) The muscles of patients with fibromyalgia are deficient in ATP and

magnesium.

 

4) Malic acid and magnesium " play a pivotal role in mitochondrial ATP

synthesis. "

 

5) Malic acid is " widely distributed in the vegetable kingdom including

concentrations of 4 to 8 g/l of apple juice. "

 

6) Malic acid plus magnesium can increase mitochondrial production of ATP

energy.

 

7) The best results were observed from " use of a higher dosage and longer

duration of treatment " with malic acid and magnesium.

 

8) Study results " indicate that it may be beneficial on the painful fibromyalgia

symptoms in dosages in excess of 8 tablets/day for up to 6 months. "

 

[8 tablets X 200 mg per tablet = 1600 mg malic acid per day]

[8 tablets X 50 mg per tablet = 400 mg magnesium per day]

 

9) The proposed mechanism for the benefit of malic acid plus magnesium

supplementation is that they " increase production of ATP. "