Drugmakers helping Obama socialize medicine

[Guest guest]

I am really tired of this.

 

Alia

[Guest guest]

Well, just hit the delete key, Alia.

We need to know all that is going on in the health industry. What

they are attempting to do to us would make alternative medicine illegal.

Margi

 

On 8/9/2009 7:30 AM, alia robinson wrote:

> I am really tired of this.

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> Alia

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[Guest guest]

And all this is misinformation, and outright lies. Obama hasn't proposed

anything of the sort. Private insurance is still available. He has said so

numerous times. Republicans are doing their jobs well, spreading slander and

lies to keep the current failing system in place. If Obama succeeds there

will be far more options available, including alternative medicines. You

think republicans care about your alternative options, not in the slightest.

 

Alia

-

<Margi

> Well, just hit the delete key, Alia.

> We need to know all that is going on in the health industry. What

> they are attempting to do to us would make alternative medicine illegal.

> Margi

[Guest guest]

Margi wrote: We need to know all that is going on in the health industry.

What

they are attempting to do to us would make alternative medicine illegal

 

 

 

This is a major concern I have. How does all of this, across party lines,

affect us and how we self treat. This is the BIG issue we need to

investigate and discuss and leave the Republican, Democrat hatred issues

aside. We all know BIG PHARMA has for years tried to make

holistic/homeopathic/etc treatments illegal and force our suppliers out of

business. How many of us could afford a black market bottle of Arnica or

want to take the risk of prison. These are the real issues Alternative

Answers should be investigating and discussing.

 

 

 

It's a given that all political parties will disagree and want to go

different ways to achieve their goals, and it can be done without all the

hatred I am feeling from some of these posts. Let's pull together for the

common goal of natural/alternative options.

 

 

 

Namaste`

 

Cynthia

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Alia,

While I am neither Republican or Democrat, I am going to address ths to you.

You first said you were tired of this thread. When someone else commented

to you to just hit the delete key and voiced their opinion , you came back with

a retort.

What I got from that retort is 1. Your a democrat and that is fine. 2. You seem

to like

President Obama and what is is doing. That too is fine, however others have a

right

to state what they see and feel. I myself did not vote for Mr. Obama for reasons

I will

explain, I took time to really listen and to read. I read a book of his where he

commented

on his father and his fathers people. saying He would side with them. I heard

his preachers

remarks and Mr . Obama knew how this man was and felt for years, yet he

continued to go

there to church until He felt it was losing him the election. He did not want to

wear a flag pin

or place his hand over his heart when pledging allegiance to our country.

Now this other is to the ones who are against him, If you helped put him there

then

accept what you did and move on. I am nether republican or democrate, I simply

read

up on each canidate and vote for whom I think is the better of the two. I will

say this in

ending my email, For those who do not like Mr. Obama,there is something called

Impeachment

and if enough people stand up for this it will happen. Also to all who complain

about how things

are being done, Stop complaining and do something about it. If 1 person that

isn't a Christian

can get things done think what several people working together can do. Oh and by

the way

While I believe in a Creator , I don't claim to be Christian either. I am simply

someone that

believes there is higher power and I walk the Red Road. I am proud to be an

American A

Native American.

Vivian Aka Lady Manitou,

 

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alia robinson

Sunday, August 09, 2009 7:59 AM

Re: Drugmakers helping Obama socialize medicine

 

 

And all this is misinformation, and outright lies. Obama hasn't proposed

anything of the sort. Private insurance is still available. He has said so

numerous times. Republicans are doing their jobs well, spreading slander and

lies to keep the current failing system in place. If Obama succeeds there

will be far more options available, including alternative medicines. You

think republicans care about your alternative options, not in the slightest.

 

Alia

-

<Margi

> Well, just hit the delete key, Alia.

> We need to know all that is going on in the health industry. What

> they are attempting to do to us would make alternative medicine illegal.

> Margi

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

 Where in the bill does it say it will try to make alternative medicine illegal?

In other countries that have Universal health care Alternative medicine is an

integral part of their system. Big Pharma and the insurance companies are the

ones who don't like Alternative medicine because they can't profit off of it. If

health care becomes a not for profit industry it make sense that more

alternative answers would be sought out to save the government money. For

instance if the government realized that many vaccines are being given for

illnesses that have been eradicated then they would stop making them mandatory

as it would only be costing them more money to continue. People fear what they

do not know and many people are playing on that fear to try to block the health

care bill. NO BILL is perfect. I'm sure there are things in its 1800 page glory

that will need to be changed, updated, etc. But it is a start in the right

direction. No person in a country

supposedly as great as ours should have to decide whether they are going to eat

for the next month or get stiches for a gaping wound. It's just not right. In my

opinion Health care should be a right not a priveledge.

 

--- On Sun, 8/9/09, Cynthia <cynsayre wrote:

 

 

Cynthia <cynsayre

RE: Drugmakers helping Obama socialize medicine

 

Sunday, August 9, 2009, 9:21 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Margi wrote: We need to know all that is going on in the health industry.

What

they are attempting to do to us would make alternative medicine illegal

 

This is a major concern I have. How does all of this, across party lines,

affect us and how we self treat. This is the BIG issue we need to

investigate and discuss and leave the Republican, Democrat hatred issues

aside. We all know BIG PHARMA has for years tried to make

holistic/homeopathi c/etc treatments illegal and force our suppliers out of

business. How many of us could afford a black market bottle of Arnica or

want to take the risk of prison. These are the real issues Alternative

Answers should be investigating and discussing.

 

It's a given that all political parties will disagree and want to go

different ways to achieve their goals, and it can be done without all the

hatred I am feeling from some of these posts. Let's pull together for the

common goal of natural/alternative options.

 

Namaste`

 

Cynthia

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi list,

Thank you for the spirited discussion concerning the disease care bill.

I like most Americans have insurance and I am OK with it. It needs to be

improved particularly the aspect of insurance companies making life

decisions.

I do oppose any bill of this magnitude that is rushed through the

Congress of Idiots. Is not that I have any confidence that those dunces

will be able to come up with something decent to control the Pharma and

Insurance masters but

just the fact that they are trying to push it through without much

time for scrutiny is crazy. I blame Obama for this rush.

Any reasonable person would allow plenty of time for discussion and

improvement.

But beyond that, I want to have Obama tested first He has no background

for me to rely on his judge net and thus I am requesting for him to

divide the endeavor into two distinct phases

First, reduce the cost of disease-care and then install a sensible

universal insurance without any government intervention, of course.

Prove to me that he is capable of delivering ANYTHING before supporting

his Congress of Idio'ts concoction.

Thanks

 

 

 

poppourrihere in the bill does it say it will try to make alternative

medicine illegal? In other countries that have Universal health care

Alternative medicine is an integral part of their system. Big Pharma and

the insurance companies are the ones who don't like Alternative medicine

because they can't profit off of it. If health care becomes a not for

profit industry it make sense that more alternative answers would be

sought out to save the government money. For instance if the government

realized that many vaccines are being given for illnesses that have been

eradicated then they would stop making them mandatory as it would only

be costing them more money to continue. People fear what they do not

know and many people are playing on that fear to try to block the health

care bill. NO BILL is perfect. I'm sure there are things in its 1800

page glory that will need to be changed, updated, etc. But it is a start

in the right direction. No person in a country

>

> supposedly as great as ours should have to decide whether they are

> going to eat for the next month or get stiches for a gaping wound.

> It's just not right. In my opinion Health care should be a right not a

> priveledge.

>

> --- On Sun, 8/9/09, Cynthia <cynsayre

> <cynsayre%40cox.net>> wrote:

>

> Cynthia <cynsayre <cynsayre%40cox.net>>

> RE: Drugmakers helping Obama socialize

> medicine

>

> <%40>

> Sunday, August 9, 2009, 9:21 AM

>

>

>

> Margi wrote: We need to know all that is going on in the health industry.

> What

> they are attempting to do to us would make alternative medicine illegal

>

> This is a major concern I have. How does all of this, across party lines,

> affect us and how we self treat. This is the BIG issue we need to

> investigate and discuss and leave the Republican, Democrat hatred issues

> aside. We all know BIG PHARMA has for years tried to make

> holistic/homeopathi c/etc treatments illegal and force our suppliers

> out of

> business. How many of us could afford a black market bottle of Arnica or

> want to take the risk of prison. These are the real issues Alternative

> Answers should be investigating and discussing.

>

> It's a given that all political parties will disagree and want to go

> different ways to achieve their goals, and it can be done without all the

> hatred I am feeling from some of these posts. Let's pull together for the

> common goal of natural/alternative options.

>

> Namaste`

>

> Cynthia

>

>

[Guest guest]

Alia,

You are exactly right, this is simply rediculous. Information is just

information until there is a spin on it, and all the crap that has been

surfacing in this group is just perpetuating lies and propaganda.

Regards, Tymothy

 

>

> And all this is misinformation, and outright lies. Obama hasn't proposed

> anything of the sort. Private insurance is still available. He has said so

> numerous times. Republicans are doing their jobs well, spreading slander and

> lies to keep the current failing system in place. If Obama succeeds there

> will be far more options available, including alternative medicines. You

> think republicans care about your alternative options, not in the slightest.

>

> Alia

> -

> <Margi

> > Well, just hit the delete key, Alia.

> > We need to know all that is going on in the health industry. What

> > they are attempting to do to us would make alternative medicine illegal.

> > Margi

>