acid reflux

February 4, 2005

Maybe these links will help a little??

http://www.florida-allergy.com/education/acidreflux.htm

webmd.com/content/article/6/1680_51289.htm

webmd.com/content/article/62/71783.htm

webmd.com/content/article/49/39947.htm

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February 6, 2005

<snip> taking tums actually will make it worse over time and it will

in most cases just keep coming back

I've read that in more then one magazine/journal

<snip> They said next time you have acid reflux try taking a teaspoon

or tablespoon (cant remember which) of vinegar and see what happens.

It is suppose to relieve it quite quickly.

I also heard the man speak, he had quite a bit of interesting

information. I do know that when my stomach is feeling

queasy/burning/uneasy I drink a mix of vinegar/honey/water and have

always had great results.

TaMara

February 8, 2005

I used to have it, but a year ago when I started drinking lots more water it

went away.

BTW, Hi Tracy!

Gayla Roberts

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Acampo, California

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Talisman Acres

Monday, February 07, 2005 12:13 PM

acid reflux

Well it makes sense to me. It would be interesting to see people try it and

report back to the list the results !

Tracy Tappin (BC Canada)

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A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big

enough to take from you everything you have. "

-- President Gerald Ford - (1976)

>>><snip> taking tums actually will make it worse over time and it will

in most cases just keep coming back

I've read that in more then one magazine/journal

<snip> They said next time you have acid reflux try taking a teaspoon

or tablespoon (cant remember which) of vinegar and see what happens.

It is suppose to relieve it quite quickly.

I also heard the man speak, he had quite a bit of interesting

information. I do know that when my stomach is feeling

queasy/burning/uneasy I drink a mix of vinegar/honey/water and have

always had great results.

TaMara

>>>>>

February 8, 2005

My Dr had me put a couple bricks under the top of the bed. You are sleeping on

a slant.

Remember at first I thought I would slide off the bed. Now it seems normal.

Don't have the problem anymore.

Nancy

Well it makes sense to me. It would be interesting to see people try

it and report back to the list the results !

February 8, 2005

Yes, it works that works for me as well. Do find myself sometimes in

the morning almost dropping off the end of the bed, but at least it

stops the acid chewing away overnight.

Martin

, scentsl <scents1> wrote:

> My Dr had me put a couple bricks under the top of the bed. You are

sleeping on a slant.

> Remember at first I thought I would slide off the bed. Now it

seems normal.

> Don't have the problem anymore.

> Nancy

>

> Well it makes sense to me. It would be interesting to see people

try

> it and report back to the list the results !

>

February 8, 2005

Nancy wrote:

My Dr had me put a couple bricks under the top of the bed. You are sleeping on

a slant.

Remember at first I thought I would slide off the bed. Now it seems normal.

Don't have the problem anymore.

Nancy

Nancy, in your case the problem was likely structural.

I have no idea what the percentages are.

I mean, how often it is caused by bad

digestion, and how often by structural weakness. Or a bit of both.

February 11, 2005

ed zachary! I don't go to that doc anymore....

Talisman Acres [talismanacres]

Friday, February 11, 2005 12:44 AM

acid reflux

Sounds like someone is grasping at straws :-)

Tracy Tappin (BC Canada)

Goat's Milk Skin Care http://www.goatmilkskincare.com

CAE Tested and CL Free LaMancha Dairy Goat's

A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government

big

enough to take from you everything you have. "

-- President Gerald Ford - (1976)

>>>>This is interesting to me. I am a medical transcriptionist of 10

years. I

also suffer from reflux. Never in any medical work I've done, OR in my

own

treatment for reflux, has the physical defect been mentioned. Know what I

was told? I need psychiatric meds. That I'm too anxious. Oh sure, they

gave me acid blockers and said quit eating tomatoes and drinking coffee,

but

they said that was masking the true problem, which is that I have an

anxiety

disorder.

I have NO doubt at all that stress can wreak havoc in the body and that

stress management is key. But still... I dunno, just rubbed me the wrong

way. But maybe that's my out of control anxiety talking ;-)

Michelle in Cleveland

>>

August 14, 2005

I too suffer acid reflux...I bought Probiotics acidophilus. how are

you taking acidophilus. right now i'm only taking 1 pill a day

because i'm afraid of taking thing in pill form because i don't want

to get sick. the Pro.Acid. since i only take one either one in the

morning or at night. how much dosage and how often are you taking

it? Is it helping.

kumilela

-- In herbal remedies , " Janet " <ebbs@s...> wrote:

> My suggestion to add to this is to take enzymes when eating to help

your

> body break down the food, and take a dairy-free acidophilus to get

the

> good bacteria back into your intestines. I'd take a powder with

> non-chlorinated water around no food or other drinks every night

till

> you notice a difference.

>

> herbal remedies

> [herbal remedies ] On Behalf Of Laura Ditsch

> Sunday, August 07, 2005 9:24 AM

> herbal remedies

> Re: Herbal Remedies - Acid Reflux

>

> Hi Cindy,

>

> I too used to suffer awful acid reflux. It did take time to go

away.

> Things don't develop overnight and usually don't go away over

night. It

> sounds pretty much to me that you are taking appopriate measures.

I do

> just want to add this: When I gave up the meats completely was

when my

> acid reflux went completely away (within days). Meats are probably

one

> of the most difficult things to digest. Well that is what worked

for

> me, anyway.

>

> Hugs,

> Laura

>

> Cindy <paris_soap> wrote:

>

> I am new to this group and look forward to learning and sharing.

>

> I have been dealing with acid reflux for over a year. There are

many

> home remedies out there and I have tried most of them: honey, honey

> and cider vinegar, delicious apples, chewing gum, sleep on the left

> side, enzyme supplements. Someone told me my blood type indicated

> low stomach acid. The list goes on and on!

>

> My acid reflux symptoms have improved but they are not completely

> gone. Over the past six months, I have lost weight, elevated my

bed,

> eat small meals and slowly chew my food.

> My diet is organic and healthy for the most part. Mostly fruit and

> vegees (juiced, too) very little meat and no dairy other than

yogurt

> that I make.

>

> With these lifestyle changes, can I ever be " cured " of acid

reflux?

> Or am I expecting too much, too soon?

>

> Thanks,

> Cindy

>

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December 1, 2006

My husband has the same problem, so bad that it's resulted in ulcers. On a

recent trip to our local natural foods market, I was discussing his problem

with the owner. She gave me a bottle of probiotic capsules for him. They're

called " Suprema Dophilus " and they contain a variety of lactobilli,

bifidobacterium, enterococcus and strptococcus enzymes. They are

refrigerated.

The way she explained it to me was that the drug companies like to keep you

slightly sick so you depend on their product. He's also on Aciphex, and she

said it destroys the bacteria that causes the ulcers (and the reflux) but it

also destroys the GOOD bacteria your digestive system needs in order to

function properly. She told me to give him these capsules, and take them IN

ADDITION to his medication, because it'll help the Aciphex to work better.

But over time, he should increase his dose of the probiotic capsules and

decrease his meds. He's already done that, and he's doing great. We've also

started using raw dairy products because they contain the same 'good'

bacteria. He has no more headaches, and very little pain anymore. He just

feels much better all over.

Hope this helps, and I wish you luck!

Jen

December 2, 2006

It's all in the diet. If you want to read more about all the digestive

ills that are caused by an improper diet read, " Gut Solutions " by Brenda

Watson, ND & Leonard Smith, MD. A fabulous read that will open your eyes

to the human digestive system and how it reacts to the foods we eat.

A little info from the book, did you know that more money is spent in

the US on digestive problems ($100 billion annually) than on computers,

higher education and learning ($82 billion); automobiles ($65 billion);

vacations ($10 billion); even the diet industry ($33 billion).

It does cover things like " Acid Reflux " , GERD, Diverticulitus, Barrett's

Esophagus, Esophagitis, Heartburn, Hiatal Hernia, Gas, Gluten

Sensitivity, Peptic Ulcers, IBS, Crohn's, Candidiasis, Constipation

...... Gall stones, Pancreatitis ....

Well written, easy to comprehend (very layman friendly) and an eye

opener that will have you reassessing what goes in your mouth.

....jenn

www.animalwellness.ca

Toronto (Canada)

416.840.4485

Fran

Good morning everyone,

I have a question on acid reflux. I worked in pediatrics for

years, in the premie nursery and up to the teen years. I am wondering

WHY so many babies have reflux NOW when that was not so prevelant years

ago. Fran

(Moderators Note: Possible rephrasing of this question. What areas

would someone recommend that I research in order to educate myself on

possible causes and natural methods to treat acid reflux? )

December 2, 2006

I had acid reflux for years - didn't realise what it was.

When I eventually managed to make the connection with wheat, and

stopped eating wheat completely, it stopped. And strangely, my angina

stopped too.

Giving babies carbohydrates so young in life is bound to cause them

problems, don't you think ? We just didn't evolve to eat carbs -

especially grains, in any quantities whatsoever.

, " Jen Hetrick "

<rednecgrl71 wrote:

>

> My husband has the same problem, so bad that it's resulted in

ulcers. On a

> recent trip to our local natural foods market, I was discussing his

problem

> with the owner. She gave me a bottle of probiotic capsules for him.

They're

> called " Suprema Dophilus " and they contain a variety of lactobilli,

> bifidobacterium, enterococcus and strptococcus enzymes. They are

> refrigerated.

> The way she explained it to me was that the drug companies like to

keep you

> slightly sick so you depend on their product. He's also on

Aciphex, and she

> said it destroys the bacteria that causes the ulcers (and the

reflux) but it

> also destroys the GOOD bacteria your digestive system needs in

order to

> function properly. She told me to give him these capsules, and

take them IN

> ADDITION to his medication, because it'll help the Aciphex to work

better.

> But over time, he should increase his dose of the probiotic

capsules and

> decrease his meds. He's already done that, and he's doing great.

We've also

> started using raw dairy products because they contain the

same 'good'

> bacteria. He has no more headaches, and very little pain anymore.

He just

> feels much better all over.

> Hope this helps, and I wish you luck!

> Jen

>

December 3, 2006

In conjunction with the other answer you received about probiotics,

this appies to newborns as well. So many babies are now being born via

c-section and this can result in less good bacteria in their guts.

Babies naturally swallow alot of beneficial bacteria on their way out

of the birth cancal, so c-section babies do not get this. having the mom put

probiotic powder on her nipples when she nurses so the baby get some.

Since you want to research this, you could also look at rates of

reflux as connected to when they started vaccinating babies at 24

hours of birth. I don't know if the two are connected but it would be

an interesting thing to explore. Let us know what you find out!

, " Fran "

<frannyjo wrote:

>

> Good morning everyone,

> I have a question on acid reflux. I worked in pediatrics for

years, in the premie nursery and up to the teen years. I am wondering

WHY so many babies have reflux NOW when that was not so prevelant

years ago. Fran

>

> (Moderators Note: Possible rephrasing of this question. What areas

would someone recommend that I research in order to educate myself on

possible causes and natural methods to treat acid reflux? )

>

December 4, 2006

> Since you want to research this, you could also look at rates of

> reflux as connected to when they started vaccinating babies at 24

> hours of birth. I don't know if the two are connected but it would be

I did not know they vaccinated babies 24-hours after birth. Which vaccines

are they giving at this age??

Back in the day (that is, when I had my child in 1969), vomiting was

considered just a normal thing unless it was projectile, in which case they

tested for pyloric stenosis. One of my grandsons had colic and vomited a lot

(breast fed) and they treated him for " acid reflux " . I was appalled.

However, a year or so later, my daughter-in-law was diagnosed with celiac

disease and now I wonder if that was the cause of the baby's problems. She

is due to deliver her second child in January so it will be interesting to

see what transpires with regard to reflux etc. since now she is following a

gluten free diet.

Younger moms please comment. I am out of the loop.

Linda Michaels

Gambier, Ohio

October 15, 2007

I've also gotten reflux from using asthma inhalers and from prednisone.

October 15, 2007

I'll try the HCL/betaine idea you've mentioned here, one more time. But I have

to admit, that a large glass of celery jice has a remarkable ability to

eliminate, for me, the painful sensation that accompanies an " over acid "

stomach, whatever actually causes it. I would recommend you try it, and see if

it doesn't have the same effect for you. Make it fresh, and drink it slowly.

jp

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mkathryn59

Thursday, October 11, 2007 8:17 PM

acid reflux

Acid indigestion and acid reflux is not caused by an over acid stomach

but the lack of the Hydrochloric acid that is supposed to be there.What

you need is to get some HCL/betine at the health food store and take it

with all of your meals. Start with what the label says take and

increase it as the need arises, increase til the acid is all gone. It

works, I have used it and know this to be true.

(snip)

October 17, 2007

www.watercure.com and drink glass of water per hour w/pinch sea salt per Dr's

instructions in book.

-------------- Original message ----------------------

" mkathryn59 " <mkathryn59

> Acid indigestion and acid reflux is not caused by an over acid stomach

> but the lack of the Hydrochloric acid that is supposed to be there.What

> you need is to get some HCL/betine at the health food store and take it

> with all of your meals. Start with what the label says take and

> increase it as the need arises, increase til the acid is all gone. It

November 19, 2007

If you are familiar with Dr Tungs method try needling the point

Menjin. It is about 1 to 1 1/2 cun proximal to ST 43, there will be an

ashi sensation at the point. It will in a very short period of time

relieve the bloated feeling. Let me know how it goes.

Chinese Medicine , " snydez99 "

<snydez99 wrote:

>

> I have a 50 female patient with cc acid reflux. She has had it for

> years. Happens every day, burning pain around cv-12. Patient feels

> bloated a lot esp after eating. She had gained weight over the last

> couple of years and is now overweight. Patient also has allergies,

> ringing in the ears, slightly constipated. Tongue: sl red with thin

> white coat with some red dots, pulse is sl weak, wiry on left & slip-

> wiry on right. SHe reports metallic taste, which I have been told to

> equate to bitter in mouth. Dx: Lv-Sp, phlegm & heat.

> I'm thinking of giving her a granule combo of shugan & er chen wan,

> possibly modifying BP's gastroquell. Any ideas?

> Steve

>

November 19, 2007

Interestingly, this point (Menjin) is located where St 43 (or very

close to it) is in the Great Compendium, odd that it is denoted as

proximal in current texts.

If one looks at junction points in Morant's " Chinese Acupuncture " ,

such as LI 4 it appears that they are closer to the junction of the

bones in comparison to modern texts as well.

Also, it this is one of the points in Tung's system that is only to be

used on unilaterally, but i don't remember the Great Compendium

stating this protocol.

Tym

Chinese Medicine , " Patrick "

<yinchunke wrote:

>

> If you are familiar with Dr Tungs method try needling the point

> Menjin. It is about 1 to 1 1/2 cun proximal to ST 43, there will be an

> ashi sensation at the point. It will in a very short period of time

> relieve the bloated feeling. Let me know how it goes.

> Chinese Medicine , " snydez99 "

> <snydez99@> wrote:

> >

> > I have a 50 female patient with cc acid reflux. She has had it for

> > years. Happens every day, burning pain around cv-12. Patient feels

> > bloated a lot esp after eating. She had gained weight over the last

> > couple of years and is now overweight. Patient also has allergies,

> > ringing in the ears, slightly constipated. Tongue: sl red with thin

> > white coat with some red dots, pulse is sl weak, wiry on left & slip-

> > wiry on right. SHe reports metallic taste, which I have been told to

> > equate to bitter in mouth. Dx: Lv-Sp, phlegm & heat.

> > I'm thinking of giving her a granule combo of shugan & er chen wan,

> > possibly modifying BP's gastroquell. Any ideas?

> > Steve

> >

>

November 20, 2007

I have had good success with acupuncture for chronic acid reflux.

I thread down the Ren line from Ren 15 to Ren 9. I also add several

Kidney points from Kid 22 to 16 and several Stomach points from St 20 to

25. You don't have to use all the points, but the idea is to descend

the Qi. Needle fairly deep angling down the torso and get a good da Qi

sensation on each needle. Also used St-36, Sp-6, Liv-3 and GB-40. If

this technique will work your patient should notice improvement in 3 - 5

treatments. If not it isn't likely to be effective for them.

I have worked with a patient that could never sleep flat and felt acid

reflux after eating or drinking anything. He had had this problem off

and on most of his adult life. He didn't take any herbs and had already

tried several over the counter and prescription drugs to try and control

it. Nothing worked but the acupuncture. Last I heard (months after the

course of treatments) he is still doing well with the symptoms

significantly improved.

Christopher Vedeler L.Ac.

Oasis Acupuncture

http://www.oasisacupuncture.com

9832 N. Hayden Rd.

Suite 215

Scottsdale, AZ 85258

Phone: (480) 991-3650

Chinese Medicine

Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of

snydez99

Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:37 AM

Chinese Medicine

Acid Reflux

I have a 50 female patient with cc acid reflux. She has had it for

years. Happens every day, burning pain around cv-12. Patient feels

bloated a lot esp after eating. She had gained weight over the last

couple of years and is now overweight. Patient also has allergies,

ringing in the ears, slightly constipated. Tongue: sl red with thin

white coat with some red dots, pulse is sl weak, wiry on left & slip-

wiry on right. SHe reports metallic taste, which I have been told to

equate to bitter in mouth. Dx: Lv-Sp, phlegm & heat.

I'm thinking of giving her a granule combo of shugan & er chen wan,

possibly modifying BP's gastroquell. Any ideas?

Steve

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November 22, 2007

Steve

3 glasses of water (morn noon and night) with 3gms of sea salt in each glass

(9gms per day) for a week.

No herbs needed

Ray

_____

Chinese Medicine

Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of snydez99

Monday, 19 November 2007 4:37 AM

Chinese Medicine

Acid Reflux

I have a 50 female patient with cc acid reflux. She has had it for

years. Happens every day, burning pain around cv-12. Patient feels

bloated a lot esp after eating. She had gained weight over the last

couple of years and is now overweight. Patient also has allergies,

ringing in the ears, slightly constipated. Tongue: sl red with thin

white coat with some red dots, pulse is sl weak, wiry on left & slip-

wiry on right. SHe reports metallic taste, which I have been told to

equate to bitter in mouth. Dx: Lv-Sp, phlegm & heat.

I'm thinking of giving her a granule combo of shugan & er chen wan,

possibly modifying BP's gastroquell. Any ideas?

Steve

November 22, 2007

Ray,

Is this done before during or after meals? Also explain the rationale of how

sea salt in suspension works to resolve damp-heat, phlegm damp, stomach yin xu,

or food accumulation, whatever case this happens to be

thanks.

Yehuda

Ray Ford <ray wrote:

Steve

3 glasses of water (morn noon and night) with 3gms of sea salt in each glass

(9gms per day) for a week.

No herbs needed

Ray

_____

Chinese Medicine

Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of snydez99

Monday, 19 November 2007 4:37 AM

Chinese Medicine

Acid Reflux

I have a 50 female patient with cc acid reflux. She has had it for

years. Happens every day, burning pain around cv-12. Patient feels

bloated a lot esp after eating. She had gained weight over the last

couple of years and is now overweight. Patient also has allergies,

ringing in the ears, slightly constipated. Tongue: sl red with thin

white coat with some red dots, pulse is sl weak, wiry on left & slip-

wiry on right. SHe reports metallic taste, which I have been told to

equate to bitter in mouth. Dx: Lv-Sp, phlegm & heat.

I'm thinking of giving her a granule combo of shugan & er chen wan,

possibly modifying BP's gastroquell. Any ideas?

Steve

November 23, 2007

-Both sides?

Steve

-- In Chinese Medicine , " zinnia "

<cmszinnia wrote:

>

> The treatment I have used for many patients is to burn from 49 to 81

> moxa's on bladder 43. I decide the number of moxa's based on how

long

> the person has had the condition.

>

> The acid reflux stops immediately and often does not return. In

some

> cases, I need to repeat the treatment in 3 or 4 months or if the

> person gets too stressed by something.

>

> Moxa on Bladder 43, as you may know, it what Sun Si Miao said would

> cure any disease. The reason it works on acid reflux is that it

> organizes the direction of qi in the chest. It opens what is called

> the gua huang- not sure of the spelling. By opening the chest, the

> proper direction of qi is restored.

>

> Zinnia

> Washington, DC

>

June 8, 2009

Can anyone here suggest some good options for treating acid reflux? I

already take ACV daily, also a good probiotic as well as Natural Yoghurt.

Some days it isn't too bad at all but other days it gets quite bad. I do

find that if I drink lots of water when I have a " bad " day it seems to help

a fair bit. I was taking Acimax medication for it but weaned myself off it

on the advice of my Naturopath because it was further destroying my

digestive system. I don't want to go back onto it. I will be travelling up

to the Coast in a few days ( I live in Tasmania Australia) so will be able

to purchase whatever I need then, hopefully. I also intend to talk to my

Naturopath again soon to see if she can recommend a " plan of action " for me.

thanks in advance

Lyndall

June 9, 2009

raw broccoli

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" Lyndall Abbott-Young " <devil.tas

Monday, June 08, 2009 4:29 PM