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This is unusual and have not heard of happening in meditation. What is your

focus when you meditate? Is it withdrawal of the senses, from your body....?

Then what is the feeling when it is complete? I recall there are a few

homeopathic remedies that pertain to this type of experience and have brought

people into a fuller consciousness in relation to what that experience was

connected with and helped complete the process on a deeper level.

Liz

 

, " gregogilv " <gregogil wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> I have a question for those that know about mediation, Taoism, kundalini &

that sort of thing. There is something different from kundalini. It is a

softening of an outer shell or something. It starts with the toes, then moves

on to the feet, then the ankles & so on. I'm not sure how to describe it

exactly. It is kind of a tingling, but it is stronger than tingling. It only

happens when someone is very relaxed. It may happen for just a few minutes or

quite a bit longer. The next time it happens it starts off where it stopped the

last time. It only affects a narrow band at a time. For instance, it finishes

completely with the feet before moving on. It might take weeks or months to

inch its way all the way to the top of the head. It is the most natural thing

in the world, but it may only happen to those that meditate. I don't know what

it is called. Can anyone tell me?

>

> Thanks.

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I can only offer an answer according to what you wrote in your post.

Nonetheless, here is what I can offer....

 

There is the physical body and then there are the subtle bodies. Although you

can compare this to being like an onion, that's not quite correct, since once we

move our awareness away from the physical body (deeper within), we enter into

what is called, " no space " / " no time " . The first body closest to the physical is

the " energy body. " When a person meditates, they are moving their awareness

deeper within. When done with breath and/or intent to move energy, we increase

the flow of that energy that is then experienced at the level of the physical

body as tingling or itching when increased or corrected, or pain or soreness

when blocked.

 

Kundalini energy doesn't move from the feet, it moves from the base of the

spinal column. When the kundalini does move up, the experience can be intense.

However, the experiences differ from person to person.

 

From what you wrote, what you are experiencing is simply a movement of energy.

The great part of this is that it will help you to increase in your awareness of

the energy of your body. In other words, you become more aware of the

subtleties of how your body functions.

 

Hope this helps,

Judy Featherheart

http://forceofspirit.com

 

, " gregogilv " <gregogil wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> I have a question for those that know about mediation, Taoism, kundalini &

that sort of thing. There is something different from kundalini. It is a

softening of an outer shell or something. It starts with the toes, then moves

on to the feet, then the ankles & so on. I'm not sure how to describe it

exactly. It is kind of a tingling, but it is stronger than tingling. It only

happens when someone is very relaxed. It may happen for just a few minutes or

quite a bit longer. The next time it happens it starts off where it stopped the

last time. It only affects a narrow band at a time. For instance, it finishes

completely with the feet before moving on. It might take weeks or months to

inch its way all the way to the top of the head. It is the most natural thing

in the world, but it may only happen to those that meditate. I don't know what

it is called. Can anyone tell me?

>

> Thanks.

>

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This happens at the beginning when you go deeper and deeper in Meditation.

Sometimes you could have some strange physical reaction like a sudden jerking of

one arm or a leg .

 

Do not worry and go back focusing on your breathing...

 

This is normal. Energies are circulating, Temperature are changing.. Even you

if go out of your body, or had visions.... Nothing to fear.

 

I practice Vipassana of the forest

 

 

, " Elizabeth Brandegee "

<lightspirals wrote:

>

> This is unusual and have not heard of happening in meditation. What is your

focus when you meditate? Is it withdrawal of the senses, from your body....?

Then what is the feeling when it is complete? I recall there are a few

homeopathic remedies that pertain to this type of experience and have brought

people into a fuller consciousness in relation to what that experience was

connected with and helped complete the process on a deeper level.

> Liz

>

> , " gregogilv " <gregogil@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I have a question for those that know about mediation, Taoism, kundalini &

that sort of thing. There is something different from kundalini. It is a

softening of an outer shell or something. It starts with the toes, then moves

on to the feet, then the ankles & so on. I'm not sure how to describe it

exactly. It is kind of a tingling, but it is stronger than tingling. It only

happens when someone is very relaxed. It may happen for just a few minutes or

quite a bit longer. The next time it happens it starts off where it stopped the

last time. It only affects a narrow band at a time. For instance, it finishes

completely with the feet before moving on. It might take weeks or months to

inch its way all the way to the top of the head. It is the most natural thing

in the world, but it may only happen to those that meditate. I don't know what

it is called. Can anyone tell me?

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

>

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Judy,

 

Thanks for the insight. I know that I said that maybe it just people who

meditated because people I've asked about it who hadn't meditated hadn't

experienced it. Thinking more about it, I don't know if it has anything to do

with meditation or not. It happens whether I am meditating or not. For it to

happen all I need to do it to relax. Not just the normal relaxing, but really

letting myself sink into whatever I'm sitting or lying on, where the body feels

very heavy, yet the same time very light.

 

It doesn't take any effort on my part & it seems like anyone could do it simply

by relaxing. I have no idea why it starts with the feet. Maybe it doesn't with

everyone. I have no idea.

 

You are right, it isn't kundalini. A couple of decades ago, kundalini stated to

happen to me. Only recently have I learned it is called kundalini. When it

began it was intense. It would toss me around emotionally & it was not much

fun. I had no idea what was going on. It has long since changed to something

very pleasant, a heat traveling up my spine where as hot as it is, it seems like

it would burn, but is always pleasant & relaxing.

 

From what I've read about kundalini seems very incomplete. If energy is allowed

to just go up & pressure build, nothing good can come from that. It needs to be

brought down the front or somehow kept circulating. I've read some Taoist

writing that talk about an essence pool behind the belly button, right in front

of the spine. I think they are right. Energy can be pooled there without it

going stagnant.

 

Maybe what I'm experiencing with the tingling is something very common, just

manifesting different enough that my description do not ring a bell. Any ideas?

 

Greg

 

 

, " para_senses " <para_senses

wrote:

>

> I can only offer an answer according to what you wrote in your post.

Nonetheless, here is what I can offer....

>

> There is the physical body and then there are the subtle bodies. Although you

can compare this to being like an onion, that's not quite correct, since once we

move our awareness away from the physical body (deeper within), we enter into

what is called, " no space " / " no time " . The first body closest to the physical is

the " energy body. " When a person meditates, they are moving their awareness

deeper within. When done with breath and/or intent to move energy, we increase

the flow of that energy that is then experienced at the level of the physical

body as tingling or itching when increased or corrected, or pain or soreness

when blocked.

>

> Kundalini energy doesn't move from the feet, it moves from the base of the

spinal column. When the kundalini does move up, the experience can be intense.

However, the experiences differ from person to person.

>

> From what you wrote, what you are experiencing is simply a movement of energy.

The great part of this is that it will help you to increase in your awareness of

the energy of your body. In other words, you become more aware of the

subtleties of how your body functions.

>

> Hope this helps,

> Judy Featherheart

> http://forceofspirit.com

>

> , " gregogilv " <gregogil@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I have a question for those that know about mediation, Taoism, kundalini &

that sort of thing. There is something different from kundalini. It is a

softening of an outer shell or something. It starts with the toes, then moves

on to the feet, then the ankles & so on. I'm not sure how to describe it

exactly. It is kind of a tingling, but it is stronger than tingling. It only

happens when someone is very relaxed. It may happen for just a few minutes or

quite a bit longer. The next time it happens it starts off where it stopped the

last time. It only affects a narrow band at a time. For instance, it finishes

completely with the feet before moving on. It might take weeks or months to

inch its way all the way to the top of the head. It is the most natural thing

in the world, but it may only happen to those that meditate. I don't know what

it is called. Can anyone tell me?

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

>

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Liz,

 

You ask about my meditation. I've been meditating for decades, different

methods have been tried. Most would fit under the grouping of mindfulness. You

mention withdrawal. I've never strived for withdrawal, which has always seemed

to end up in self-involvement, a bit narcissistic. I typically strive to break

down walls, to understand more than what I normally gather from my normal

perspective. I'm not seeking some great mysticism, but comprehension of how the

world works, how others might see the world, other options besides my angle on

life.

 

You asked about the end result, Judy mentioned an onion. It is a little like

the paper outer layer of the onion being pealed away. The paper layer has no

flexibility, the layers underneath do. It doesn't turn me into a gymnast or

anything, but seem to be a removal of a barrier or something. I don't know if

that is a good description or not, but lacking whatever has seemed to have been

removed I am much more reliant on consciously moving warmth, or more accurately

making sure warmth doesn't get blocked & start to go stagnant.

 

Does any of this ring a bell? Maybe my descriptions of tingling of the skin &

top most layer of muscles is simply a slightly different manifestation or

something common. The tingling is something totally effortless; it seems to me

that it might be fairly common. I'm probably just explaining it poorly, or

maybe it has manifest slightly differently with me.

 

Greg

 

 

, " Elizabeth Brandegee "

<lightspirals wrote:

>

> This is unusual and have not heard of happening in meditation. What is your

focus when you meditate? Is it withdrawal of the senses, from your body....?

Then what is the feeling when it is complete? I recall there are a few

homeopathic remedies that pertain to this type of experience and have brought

people into a fuller consciousness in relation to what that experience was

connected with and helped complete the process on a deeper level.

> Liz

>

> , " gregogilv " <gregogil@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I have a question for those that know about mediation, Taoism, kundalini &

that sort of thing. There is something different from kundalini. It is a

softening of an outer shell or something. It starts with the toes, then moves

on to the feet, then the ankles & so on. I'm not sure how to describe it

exactly. It is kind of a tingling, but it is stronger than tingling. It only

happens when someone is very relaxed. It may happen for just a few minutes or

quite a bit longer. The next time it happens it starts off where it stopped the

last time. It only affects a narrow band at a time. For instance, it finishes

completely with the feet before moving on. It might take weeks or months to

inch its way all the way to the top of the head. It is the most natural thing

in the world, but it may only happen to those that meditate. I don't know what

it is called. Can anyone tell me?

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

>

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Greg,

 

I like ur interst in meditation and how u describe it.  I know how hard it is to

put these things into words.  I try to understand things about the world too.  I

am 77 now and still trying, hoping to know more if I can?

~Andy

 

--- On Sat, 5/30/09, gregogilv <gregogil wrote:

 

 

gregogilv <gregogil

Re: Question for those that meditate.

 

Saturday, May 30, 2009, 9:27 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Liz,

 

You ask about my meditation. I've been meditating for decades, different methods

have been tried. Most would fit under the grouping of mindfulness. You mention

withdrawal. I've never strived for withdrawal, which has always seemed to end up

in self-involvement, a bit narcissistic. I typically strive to break down walls,

to understand more than what I normally gather from my normal perspective. I'm

not seeking some great mysticism, but comprehension of how the world works, how

others might see the world, other options besides my angle on life.

 

You asked about the end result, Judy mentioned an onion. It is a little like the

paper outer layer of the onion being pealed away. The paper layer has no

flexibility, the layers underneath do. It doesn't turn me into a gymnast or

anything, but seem to be a removal of a barrier or something. I don't know if

that is a good description or not, but lacking whatever has seemed to have been

removed I am much more reliant on consciously moving warmth, or more accurately

making sure warmth doesn't get blocked & start to go stagnant.

 

Does any of this ring a bell? Maybe my descriptions of tingling of the skin &

top most layer of muscles is simply a slightly different manifestation or

something common. The tingling is something totally effortless; it seems to me

that it might be fairly common. I'm probably just explaining it poorly, or maybe

it has manifest slightly differently with me.

 

Greg

 

, " Elizabeth Brandegee "

<lightspirals@ ...> wrote:

>

> This is unusual and have not heard of happening in meditation. What is your

focus when you meditate? Is it withdrawal of the senses, from your body....?

Then what is the feeling when it is complete? I recall there are a few

homeopathic remedies that pertain to this type of experience and have brought

people into a fuller consciousness in relation to what that experience was

connected with and helped complete the process on a deeper level.

> Liz

>

> , " gregogilv " <gregogil@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I have a question for those that know about mediation, Taoism, kundalini &

that sort of thing. There is something different from kundalini. It is a

softening of an outer shell or something. It starts with the toes, then moves on

to the feet, then the ankles & so on. I'm not sure how to describe it exactly.

It is kind of a tingling, but it is stronger than tingling. It only happens when

someone is very relaxed. It may happen for just a few minutes or quite a bit

longer. The next time it happens it starts off where it stopped the last time.

It only affects a narrow band at a time. For instance, it finishes completely

with the feet before moving on. It might take weeks or months to inch its way

all the way to the top of the head. It is the most natural thing in the world,

but it may only happen to those that meditate. I don't know what it is called.

Can anyone tell me?

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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