Guest guest Posted March 22, 2004 Report Share Posted March 22, 2004 Hi Sharon, Just a thought, and I have no proof of how this works, but bear with me. I have a few friends who are at the change of life and having hot flashes. Also, they had dry skin and so I gave them some rose hydrosol to spray on their faces, I find it so refreshing. One of my friends finds that her hot flashes seem to start from the back of her nose and work down her body. As one started a few months ago, she felt really hot, so grabbed the hydrosol and sprayed all over her face, obviously inhaling as well, I guess. Turns out that the flash was not so intense, and also her nose did not feel so congested during the time it lasted. She now uses it all the time. An interesting thought???? Regards Jeanine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Black cohosh no better than placebo against hot flushes, finds new trial By Dominique Patton 21/10/2005 - Taking supplements of the herbal black cohosh is unlikely to offer much relief from menopausal hot flushes, conclude the US researchers on a new trial. Feedback from around 350 postmenopausal women who were randomized to receive either the herbal, conventional treatment, other supplements or a placebo, failed to support the efficacy of black cohosh reported in other trials. " Given the serious health risks associated with hormone therapy, we were disappointed to discover that a popular herbal alternative appears to be no more effective than the placebo, " said Katherine Newton, lead researcher on the new study published in this month's issue of Elsevier journal Maturitas (16:134-46). " Regrettably, we found that black cohosh has little potential to play an important role in the relief of vasomotor symptoms. " Since major trials revealed the health risks of hormone replacement therapy (HRT)- until then the most popular and proven therapy for menopause symptoms - the use of supplements containing natural products like black cohosh, soy isoflavones and red clover has surged. Black cohosh preparations have been approved by the German government as non-prescription medications for treatment of menopausal symptoms and are among the most widely-used natural alternatives to hormone replacement therapy (HRT). But their use is controversial among some healthcare professionals who say there is little evidence to support their efficacy. In the new trial, funded by the US National Institute on Aging and the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine, researchers from four institutions in Seattle enrolled followed the women for a year. They had been randomly assigned to one of five daily regimes: 160mg of black cohosh (supplied by US-based Pure World); a multiple botanical supplement containing 10 different herbs, including black cohosh; the same multibotanical supplement together with counselling to increase dietary soya; hormone therapy (Premarin or Prempro); and placebo. The participants kept diaries, recording the frequency and intensity of their hot flushes at the start of the trial and at three, six, and 12 months. At three months the diaries recorded hot flush frequency to be down by 35 per cent with black cohosh, 15 per cent with the multibotanical, 30 per cent with the multibotanical plus dietary counselling, 21 per cent with the placebo, and 88 per cent with hormone therapy. The findings were similar at six and 12 months. The same pattern was found when the researchers used a menopause symptom score. At three months, the frequency of hot flushes decreased 27 per cent with black cohosh, 14 per cent with the multibotanical, 23 per cent with the multibotanical plus soy, 15 per cent with the placebo, and 76 per cent with hormone therapy. The findings were also similar at six and 12 months. The authors noted that differences between the herbal regimens and the placebo were not significant but that the difference between the hormone therapy group and the other groups was considered important. Oakland, CA 94609 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Yes that may be the result of research, but many of my patients swear by it. Heiko Lade M.H.Sc.(TCM) Lecturer and clinic supervisor Auckland College of Natural Medicine Website: www.acnm.co.nz - Wednesday, October 26, 2005 7:14 AM Re: hot flashes Black cohosh no better than placebo against hot flushes, finds new trial By Dominique Patton 21/10/2005 - Taking supplements of the herbal black cohosh is unlikely to offer much relief from menopausal hot flushes, conclude the US researchers on a new trial. Feedback from around 350 postmenopausal women who were randomized to receive either the herbal, conventional treatment, other supplements or a placebo, failed to support the efficacy of black cohosh reported in other trials. " Given the serious health risks associated with hormone therapy, we were disappointed to discover that a popular herbal alternative appears to be no more effective than the placebo, " said Katherine Newton, lead researcher on the new study published in this month's issue of Elsevier journal Maturitas (16:134-46). " Regrettably, we found that black cohosh has little potential to play an important role in the relief of vasomotor symptoms. " Since major trials revealed the health risks of hormone replacement therapy (HRT)- until then the most popular and proven therapy for menopause symptoms - the use of supplements containing natural products like black cohosh, soy isoflavones and red clover has surged. Black cohosh preparations have been approved by the German government as non-prescription medications for treatment of menopausal symptoms and are among the most widely-used natural alternatives to hormone replacement therapy (HRT). But their use is controversial among some healthcare professionals who say there is little evidence to support their efficacy. In the new trial, funded by the US National Institute on Aging and the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine, researchers from four institutions in Seattle enrolled followed the women for a year. They had been randomly assigned to one of five daily regimes: 160mg of black cohosh (supplied by US-based Pure World); a multiple botanical supplement containing 10 different herbs, including black cohosh; the same multibotanical supplement together with counselling to increase dietary soya; hormone therapy (Premarin or Prempro); and placebo. The participants kept diaries, recording the frequency and intensity of their hot flushes at the start of the trial and at three, six, and 12 months. At three months the diaries recorded hot flush frequency to be down by 35 per cent with black cohosh, 15 per cent with the multibotanical, 30 per cent with the multibotanical plus dietary counselling, 21 per cent with the placebo, and 88 per cent with hormone therapy. The findings were similar at six and 12 months. The same pattern was found when the researchers used a menopause symptom score. At three months, the frequency of hot flushes decreased 27 per cent with black cohosh, 14 per cent with the multibotanical, 23 per cent with the multibotanical plus soy, 15 per cent with the placebo, and 76 per cent with hormone therapy. The findings were also similar at six and 12 months. The authors noted that differences between the herbal regimens and the placebo were not significant but that the difference between the hormone therapy group and the other groups was considered important. Oakland, CA 94609 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Yes that may be the result of research, but many of my patients swear by it. >>>>>> That is always the problem, sorting active therapy and patient's beliefs is quite difficult Oakland, CA 94609 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 I wonder if this has any relevance to the practice of Chinese herbal medicine, these single herb studies. There are so many variables, as we see in the wide variety of products, in quality, preparation and combination with other ingredients. Other plants such as baneberry/actaea arguta are being used as substitutes, and they may have different qualities to true cimicifuga racemosa. As we previously discussed, there may be some differences between cimicifuga racemosa and sheng ma/cimicifuga foetida. I don't know if cimicifuga racemosa raises the clear yang with the efficiency of Chinese cimicifugas, but it makes sense that in women with hot flashes associated with sinking of spleen qi, it would be helpful. However, hot flashes in Chinese medicine can have several contributing patterns, and if those patterns are not addressed, the condition will not be improved. On Oct 25, 2005, at 11:14 AM, wrote: > Black cohosh no better than placebo against hot flushes, finds new > trial > By Dominique Patton > > 21/10/2005 - Taking supplements of the herbal black cohosh is > unlikely to offer much relief from menopausal hot flushes, conclude > the US researchers on a new trial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 I wonder if this has any relevance to the practice of Chinese herbal medicine, these single herb studies. There are so many variables, as we see in the wide variety of products, in quality, preparation and combination with other ingredients. >>>>>>> Zev the relevance is i showing how easily so-called clinical observations can be misleading even when shared by so many people. Oakland, CA 94609 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Hi Karen, I'm not at that stage of my womanhood yet, and I am sure there are many others here who can give you ideas of they do/have done personally, but I would like to suggest the book " Menopausal Years the Wise Woman Way: Alternative Approaches for Women 30 - 90 " by Susun Weed. http://susunweed.com/WiseWomanHerbals.htm#meno *Smile* Chris (list mom) Natural Awapuhi Extract, Unrefined Rose Hip Seed Oil Traditional Pressed Certified Organic Virgin Coconut Oil Pre-Buy Special - TODAY IS THE LAST DAY TO ORDER! http://www.alittleolfactory.com/prebuys.htm karen rink Hi, I just started getting hot flashes. Does anyone have any herbal suggestions to keep these under control? TIA, Karen in France Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Karen, I've been having hot flashes and night sweats since I was 30... Side effect of Anti-depressant medication, pregnancy, thyroid problems, and peri-menopause (Weeeee!) any way. Black Cohosh, works for me most of the time. I know several of my wise woman friends tried wild yam, and raspberry leaf. I use the Walmart brand of Estroven (since it has most of the stuff that herbalists would say is good for all of those peri/menopausal symptoms. Other than that, I'd say get your self to a Doctor, or Naturopath to find out exactly what is causing them.. (I say that because it could be more than one thing.) Jennifer ---- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 Hi all I have made an oil that helps with menopausal symptoms. The oil is applied to the bottom of the feet, this is a trigger point for the body. It works great. for more information, just go to www.crystalhealingfoundation.com Love and Light Lisa > > karen rink > >Hi, > >I just started getting hot flashes. >Does anyone have any herbal suggestions to keep these under control? > >TIA, >Karen in France Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2006 Report Share Posted August 31, 2006 Hi Lisa, I tried to access your website to look at this oil and couldn't find it. Mary On Aug 29, 2006, at 4:49 PM, Lisa Bellini wrote: > Hi all > I have made an oil that helps with menopausal symptoms. The oil is > applied > to the bottom of the feet, this is a trigger point for the body. It > works > great. for more information, just go to > www.crystalhealingfoundation.com > Love and Light > Lisa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 I use KI 27 Shen men and sympethetic (ear) I get great results. Maria Kuriloff NYS _____ Chinese Medicine Chinese Medicine On Behalf Of petrabuchanan Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:08 PM Chinese Medicine hot flashes I have been having great success treating menopausal patients with hot flashes. The thing is that after 2-3 weeks of not seeing me the hot flashes/night sweats come back unless I use herbs which a few patients are adverse to for various reasons. Any miracle tx. I have been using LI4,H6,KI7 always. Sometimes LU7, KI6, KI2, LV2, SP6, LV8 depending on the presentation. Plus moxa to KI 1, Gao huang shu occasionally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 thank you. --- Ron & Maria Kuriloff <rmkuriloff wrote: > I use KI 27 > Shen men and sympethetic (ear) > I get great results. > > Maria Kuriloff > NYS > > _____ > > Chinese Medicine > Chinese Medicine > On Behalf Of > petrabuchanan > Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:08 PM > Chinese Medicine > hot flashes > > > > > I have been having great success treating menopausal > patients with hot > flashes. The thing is that after 2-3 weeks of not > seeing me the hot > flashes/night sweats come back unless I use herbs > which a few patients > are adverse to for various reasons. Any miracle tx. > I have been using > LI4,H6,KI7 always. Sometimes LU7, KI6, KI2, LV2, > SP6, LV8 depending on > the presentation. Plus moxa to KI 1, Gao huang shu > occasionally. [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ______________________________\ ____ Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=summer+activities+for+kids & cs=bz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Betty, try vitex berry. This herb stimulates the production of progesterone, which decreases during menopause, contributing to hot flashes, dizziness and vaginal dryness. As with most herbs, the full effect may not be felt for several weeks or even months. Other herbs to try for menopause symptoms include black cohosh, licorice root, and dong quai. Carolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 Dear Carolyn, Thank you for the suggestions for hot flashes. I'll look into that. Have a great day. Betty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 Black Cohosh works immediately. A couple drops from the dropper, placed under the tongue and the hot flash stops within a minute or two. **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2\ F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2009 Report Share Posted February 22, 2009 >Black Cohosh works immediately. A couple drops from the dropper, placed under the tongue and the hot flash stops within a minute or two.< Some more info please? Is this a tincture or what? Thanks, Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2009 Report Share Posted May 16, 2009 Hi... a few things to try... Detox your system first. This is a MUST step. Eat organic fresh foods as often as possible. Increase your fatty acids... omega 6. Increase Vit. D, .... Good Luck!! , " sistahdi " <sistadi wrote: > > Can anyone suggest remedies for these hot flashes - daytime and evening. I have been using the Macca powder w/ Wild Yam powder mixture for about a month now with no relief. I first used the black cohash . . any other suggestions? .. > > Tks much as I haven't slept all night for at least a year . . .bless > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 help hot flashes are ruining me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Acupuncture and Chinese herbs can help you considerably. - " sarisalsa " <sarisalsa Sunday, May 24, 2009 5:33 PM hot flashes > help hot flashes are ruining me! > > > > --- > > ********************************************* > Peacefulmind.com Sponsors Alternative Answers- > > HEALING NATURALLY- Learn preventative and curative measure to take for > many ailments at: > > http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments.htm > __________ > > -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address > in an email to them: > > http://health./subs_invite > > _________ > To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: > > http://health./links > > ___________ > > Post message: > Subscribe: - > Un: - > List owner: -owner > _______ > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://health.! Groups > Links > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 I took a liquid iodine supplement about a year ago, that completely eliminated my hot flashes. I can only afford a Kelp supplement, now, so they're really abated, but not gone. I would suggest the best iodine supplement you can locate...I've heard of one called Iodoral http://www.naturalhealthyconcepts.com/iodoral-90-p-optimox.html http://www.quackcenter.com/iodoral.html http://www.quackcenter.com/iodoralresults.html The first two links are for ordering it, and the third is testimonials of consumers. You might also check with a health expert at your health store as to their opinion, and compare. Most likely, you can overcome this, too, by faithfully taking the right iodine supplement,,,which has a lot of other benefits as well! Happy recovery and research!! Love and prayers, Marilyn --- On Mon, 5/25/09, Mercurius Trismegistus <magisterium_magnum wrote: Mercurius Trismegistus <magisterium_magnum Re: hot flashes Monday, May 25, 2009, 5:20 PM Acupuncture and Chinese herbs can help you considerably. - " sarisalsa " <sarisalsa > <> Sunday, May 24, 2009 5:33 PM hot flashes > help hot flashes are ruining me! > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > ************ ********* ********* ********* ****** > Peacefulmind. com Sponsors Alternative Answers- > > HEALING NATURALLY- Learn preventative and curative measure to take for > many ailments at: > > http://www.peaceful mind.com/ ailments. htm > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _____ > > -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address > in an email to them: > > http://health. groups.. com AlternativeAnswe rs/subs_invite > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ ____ > To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: > > http://health. groups.. com AlternativeAnswe rs/links > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ ______ > > Post message: > Subscribe: - > Un: - > List owner: - owner@ s.com > ____________ _________ _________ _________ __ > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://health. groups.. com AlternativeAnswe rs > Links > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Black cohosh is very effective in controlling hot flashes. You might also consider bioidentical hormone replacement which requires testing for hormone levels and a personally compounded prescription med which is usually a combination of estrogens and progesterone, sometimes testosterone. Kathleen Barnes Natural Living Now http:www.kathleenbarnes.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Raspberry tea. Black beans, black rice, black sesame, walnuts, red grapes, shitake, royal jelly. - " Kathleen Barnes " <manymoons Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:22 AM Re:hot flashes > Black cohosh is very effective in controlling hot flashes. > > You might also consider bioidentical hormone replacement which requires > testing for hormone levels and a personally compounded prescription med > which is usually a combination of estrogens and progesterone, sometimes > testosterone. > > > Kathleen Barnes > Natural Living Now > http:www.kathleenbarnes.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Try Tahitian Noni Juice. Noni is the best fruit, it contains lots of antioxidants than other fruits. ________________________________ Mercurius Trismegistus <magisterium_magnum Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:32:41 AM Re: Re:hot flashes Raspberry tea. Black beans, black rice, black sesame, walnuts, red grapes, shitake, royal jelly. - " Kathleen Barnes " <manymoons (AT) citcom (DOT) net> <> Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:22 AM Re:hot flashes > Black cohosh is very effective in controlling hot flashes. > > You might also consider bioidentical hormone replacement which requires > testing for hormone levels and a personally compounded prescription med > which is usually a combination of estrogens and progesterone, sometimes > testosterone. > > > Kathleen Barnes > Natural Living Now > http:www.kathleenba rnes.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 try...isoflave CR...its a phytoestrogen..product of raptakos brett, co ltd --- On Wed, 5/27/09, djimng <djimng wrote: djimng <djimng Re: Re:hot flashes , sarisalsa, magisterium_magnum, usasinnersaved Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 3:26 PM Try Tahitian Noni Juice. Noni is the best fruit, it contains lots of antioxidants than other fruits. ____________ _________ _________ __ Mercurius Trismegistus <magisterium_ magnum (AT) comcast (DOT) net> Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:32:41 AM Re: Re:hot flashes Raspberry tea. Black beans, black rice, black sesame, walnuts, red grapes, shitake, royal jelly. - " Kathleen Barnes " <manymoons (AT) citcom (DOT) net> Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:22 AM Re:hot flashes > Black cohosh is very effective in controlling hot flashes. > > You might also consider bioidentical hormone replacement which requires > testing for hormone levels and a personally compounded prescription med > which is usually a combination of estrogens and progesterone, sometimes > testosterone. > > > Kathleen Barnes > Natural Living Now > http:www.kathleenba rnes.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 try soya beans and extracts --- On Thu, 5/28/09, maryjustine padayao <maryjustine12 wrote: maryjustine padayao <maryjustine12 Re: Re:hot flashes Thursday, May 28, 2009, 12:49 AM try...isoflave CR...its a phytoestrogen. .product of raptakos brett, co ltd --- On Wed, 5/27/09, djimng <djimng > wrote: djimng <djimng > Re: Re:hot flashes , sarisalsa , magisterium_ magnum (AT) comcast (DOT) net, usasinnersaved@ Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 3:26 PM Try Tahitian Noni Juice. Noni is the best fruit, it contains lots of antioxidants than other fruits. ____________ _________ _________ __ Mercurius Trismegistus <magisterium_ magnum (AT) comcast (DOT) net> Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:32:41 AM Re: Re:hot flashes Raspberry tea. Black beans, black rice, black sesame, walnuts, red grapes, shitake, royal jelly. - " Kathleen Barnes " <manymoons (AT) citcom (DOT) net> Tuesday, May 26, 2009 11:22 AM Re:hot flashes > Black cohosh is very effective in controlling hot flashes. > > You might also consider bioidentical hormone replacement which requires > testing for hormone levels and a personally compounded prescription med > which is usually a combination of estrogens and progesterone, sometimes > testosterone. > > > Kathleen Barnes > Natural Living Now > http:www.kathleenba rnes.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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