Getting off psychiatric drugs- Body defomation syndrome

[Guest guest]

Could you have a alternate solution for mental health problem  which is also

known as body deformation syndrome    in which the patient feels that a part of

his body is deformed  and can be rectified by  surgery ,where as he is perfectly

fine  which results in serious mental tension & depression .  The only solution

suggested by doctors is to have psychatric drugs/counselling . Any solution in

alternate medicines/methods?

 

Regards

 

SS Chandel

 

--- On Mon, 18/5/09, mdesoi <mdesoi wrote:

 

 

mdesoi <mdesoi

Getting of psychiatric drugs

 

Monday, 18 May, 2009, 7:09 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I expected serious discourse when I offered my opinion. To date, my post has

been attacked and I've been accused of something for which there is no basis.

With one exception, the content of my post has been completely ignored. I don't

understand why.

 

At no point did I make a statement to any extreme including any disrespect for

vitamins and CAM. I am, in fact, a member for a reason. Personal success with a

regimen is not compelling however true the success might be. As I understand the

thread, the topic was bi-polar as a widespread issue. I am glad each of you has

had success. God bless you. Perhaps I mis-read the topic.

 

Be advised, this is not an apology. I work, on a voluntary basis, with many

people who suffer from mental illness. Over the last nine years, I personally

have witnessed five suicides, the loss of seven homes due to manic episodes (the

result of financial excess), fourteen marriages lost and seven families driven

into homeless shelters...all the result of BPAD. Perhaps CAM would have

prevented all these eventualities.

 

If, in fact, your assessment is true, don't each of you hold responsibility to

extend yourselves further than a to spread the message? You hold the

key to a health problem that effects between 1-4% of the worldwide population.

If I had such a solution, personally, I'd find a way to help that many people. I

don't have such a solution. As such, I volunteer to help those who suffer.

 

In consideration of the position that CAM can have the effect supposed, will it

also solve schizophrenia? My experience, although limited to only twenty-two

schizophrenics has demonstrated to me that schizophrenia exists along the

continuum of mental illness occupied by BPAD. The question, while is looks

sarcastic, is not. Please advise.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

there was programe on tv a few nights ago in reguards to this problem-i am in

nsw of australia-they use to believe that this was a physiatric problem till

recent studies of such people proved that one part of their brain  does not

function -i can't remember which  part but it is approximately rear   going

close to the top on the left-but i may be out somewhat as the programme was a

short one and only computer diagram flashed on to show approximate area---so

this is no longer  regarded       as 

mental health problem but a neurological one-do more research into  it then

find  some herbs and foods that may aid in stimulation of these areas-it is a

new discovery and some furthur research is necessary however these patients need

some help as they usually  try to  self amputate- with some dire consequences.

 

 

________________________________

Shyam Chandel <chandel_shyam

mdesoi <mdesoi;

Friday, 22 May, 2009 11:11:21 PM

Getting off psychiatric drugs- Body defomation

syndrome

 

 

 

 

 

Could you have a alternate solution for mental health problem  which is also

known as body deformation syndrome    in which the patient feels that a part of

his body is deformed  and can be rectified by  surgery ,where as he is perfectly

fine  which results in serious mental tension & depression .  The only solution

suggested by doctors is to have psychatric drugs/counselling . Any solution in

alternate medicines/methods?

 

Regards

 

SS Chandel

 

--- On Mon, 18/5/09, mdesoi <mdesoi > wrote:

 

mdesoi <mdesoi >

Getting of psychiatric drugs

 

Monday, 18 May, 2009, 7:09 PM

 

I expected serious discourse when I offered my opinion. To date, my post has

been attacked and I've been accused of something for which there is no basis.

With one exception, the content of my post has been completely ignored. I don't

understand why.

 

At no point did I make a statement to any extreme including any disrespect for

vitamins and CAM. I am, in fact, a member for a reason. Personal success with a

regimen is not compelling however true the success might be. As I understand the

thread, the topic was bi-polar as a widespread issue. I am glad each of you has

had success. God bless you. Perhaps I mis-read the topic.

 

Be advised, this is not an apology. I work, on a voluntary basis, with many

people who suffer from mental illness. Over the last nine years, I personally

have witnessed five suicides, the loss of seven homes due to manic episodes (the

result of financial excess), fourteen marriages lost and seven families driven

into homeless shelters...all the result of BPAD. Perhaps CAM would have

prevented all these eventualities.

 

If, in fact, your assessment is true, don't each of you hold responsibility to

extend yourselves further than a to spread the message? You hold the

key to a health problem that effects between 1-4% of the worldwide population.

If I had such a solution, personally, I'd find a way to help that many people. I

don't have such a solution. As such, I volunteer to help those who suffer.

 

In consideration of the position that CAM can have the effect supposed, will it

also solve schizophrenia? My experience, although limited to only twenty-two

schizophrenics has demonstrated to me that schizophrenia exists along the

continuum of mental illness occupied by BPAD. The question, while is looks

sarcastic, is not. Please advise.

 

Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel

http://in.travel. /

 

 

[Guest guest]

The first thing I want to say is that if dis-functioning parts of the brain are

involved, Transcendental Meditation is the perfect solution. It has been well

publicised that what scientists call 'holes in the head' occur in many ordinary

people, who show no symptoms whatsoever. These holes in the head are areas which

are effectively 'dead'. Infact I think the majority of people have these

disfunctioning areas. But the practice of Transcendental Meditation, which

anyone can do, because it is a simple, effortless technique which doesn't take a

long time to practice, brings about a state of holistic brain functioning; and

the integration and wholeness increases over time.

 

The second thing is that 80% of acute schizophrenics can be totally cured and

returned to the work-place by nutritional intervention. This isn't just good

food, but sophisticated mineral etc intervention to make up for a genetic

predisposition. I have copied the information below; but first I want to say my

third point.

 

I am very much wanting to get this information across, but nobody seems to want

to know, except the already-converted. The public isn't interested, and

psychiatrists just want to carry on as they are. I believe the only way that

change can come is by political will, and I am willing to march carrying a

placard, but I think I will have to start alone. The first law I would change is

to make it impossible to become a psychiatrist unless you have studied

psychology for at least three years. Astonishingly, psychiatrists are just

doctors who have done a post-grad in how to control the symptoms of mental

illness using drugs. They have not gone through a psychology course, and they

know nothing about psychotherapy or counselling or any other technique for

dealing with emotional or mental trauma. There are two very good websites which

talk about the contemporary scene, and the second one talks about therapies to

cure schizophrenia. Do a search for Eleanor Longden and you will read her

horrific story (with a happy ending).

 

http://wellbeingfou ndation.com/ interviews_ pg1.html

 

www.rufusmay.com

 

Here is the information about nutritional treatment of schizophrenia: Patrick

Holford reports: " According to Dr Abram Hoffer, former Director of Psychiatric

Research for part of Canada, tranquillisers never cure mental illness because

they merely replace one psychosis with another. After 40 years' experience as a

psychiatrist he recommends them only as a last, and temporary, resort. Instead

he favours nutritional intervention which, he says, cures 80% of acute

schizophrenia, a claim backed up by his own and independent double-blind

controlled studies. His definition of 'cure' is threefold: free from symptoms,

able to socialise with family and community, and paying income tax! The latter,

meaning gainful employment, is a rare event for people on tranquillisers " .

 

Hoffer, A. & Osmond, H., 'Treatment of schizophrenia with Nicotinic Acid,' Acta.

Psych. Scand., vol 40, 171-189, (1964)

Hoffer, A., Chronic Schizophrenia Patients Treated Ten Years or More,' J.

Orthomol. Med., vol 9:1, p1-37, (1994)

 

He continues: " Some people produce excessive amounts of kryptopyrroles, which

can be detected in the urine. The formation of this biochemical robs the body of

zinc and vitamin B6, effectively creating a deficiency and need far in excess of

what is generally considered necessary for optimum health. This condition, known

as pyroluria, is found in about 10% of the general population and about 50% of

those with mental illness. A period of stress, which depletes zinc, can tip a

person with this biochemical tendency over the edge. The result may well be

symptoms such as depression, confusion, disturbed thinking and social

withdrawal.

 

" Pyroluria is easily detected with a simple urine test currently costing only

£11, and corrected by improved nutrition together with supplements of zinc and

vitamin B6. Since zinc competes with manganese, this element is usually

supplemented as well "

 

Dominic Bere

 

, cheryl bullock <cooee.shari

wrote:

>

> there was programe on tv a few nights ago in reguards to this problem-i am in

nsw of australia-they use to believe that this was a physiatric problem till

recent studies of such people proved that one part of their brain  does not

function -i can't remember which  part but it is approximately rear   going

close to the top on the left-but i may be out somewhat as the programme was a

short one and only computer diagram flashed on to show approximate area---so

this is no longer  regarded       as 

> mental health problem but a neurological one-do more research into  it then

find  some herbs and foods that may aid in stimulation of these areas-it is a

new discovery and some furthur research is necessary however these patients need

some help as they usually  try to  self amputate- with some dire consequences.

>

>

> ________________________________

> Shyam Chandel <chandel_shyam

> mdesoi <mdesoi;

> Friday, 22 May, 2009 11:11:21 PM

> Getting off psychiatric drugs- Body defomation

syndrome

>

>

>

>

>

> Could you have a alternate solution for mental health problem  which is also

known as body deformation syndrome    in which the patient feels that a part of

his body is deformed  and can be rectified by  surgery ,where as he is perfectly

fine  which results in serious mental tension & depression .  The only solution

suggested by doctors is to have psychatric drugs/counselling . Any solution in

alternate medicines/methods?

>  

> Regards

>  

> SS Chandel

>

> --- On Mon, 18/5/09, mdesoi <mdesoi > wrote:

>

> mdesoi <mdesoi >

> Getting of psychiatric drugs

>

> Monday, 18 May, 2009, 7:09 PM

>

> I expected serious discourse when I offered my opinion. To date, my post has

been attacked and I've been accused of something for which there is no basis.

With one exception, the content of my post has been completely ignored. I don't

understand why.

>

> At no point did I make a statement to any extreme including any disrespect for

vitamins and CAM. I am, in fact, a member for a reason. Personal success with a

regimen is not compelling however true the success might be. As I understand the

thread, the topic was bi-polar as a widespread issue. I am glad each of you has

had success. God bless you. Perhaps I mis-read the topic.

>

> Be advised, this is not an apology. I work, on a voluntary basis, with many

people who suffer from mental illness. Over the last nine years, I personally

have witnessed five suicides, the loss of seven homes due to manic episodes (the

result of financial excess), fourteen marriages lost and seven families driven

into homeless shelters...all the result of BPAD. Perhaps CAM would have

prevented all these eventualities.

>

> If, in fact, your assessment is true, don't each of you hold responsibility to

extend yourselves further than a to spread the message? You hold the

key to a health problem that effects between 1-4% of the worldwide population.

If I had such a solution, personally, I'd find a way to help that many people. I

don't have such a solution. As such, I volunteer to help those who suffer.

>

> In consideration of the position that CAM can have the effect supposed, will

it also solve schizophrenia? My experience, although limited to only twenty-two

schizophrenics has demonstrated to me that schizophrenia exists along the

continuum of mental illness occupied by BPAD. The question, while is looks

sarcastic, is not. Please advise.

>

> Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel

http://in.travel. /

>

>

[Guest guest]

BODY DEFORMATION SYNDROME : A BOOK ON THE SUBJECT

 

 

Thank Dominic Bere

for a very good post !!

 

I practice Vipassana Meditation and I agree with you 1000 % on all your post !!

 

If you want to pass the message across you are welcome to post anything

regarding mental disorder and Nutrition on my blog.

www.jmbblog.com

 

I think that psychiatrists and psychologists should spend at least a month in a

mental institution as anonymous patients.

 

 

==========================================

BODY DEFORMATION SYNDROME

 

Do you believe in synchronicity ?

 

Well, I do because I found three days ago an old small book in my library that

I did nt even know to own

 

It is from a famous plastic surgeon Maxwell Maltz from thhe 70's and it is

called ;

 

Psyco-cibernetics

A new way to get more living out of life

 

This is a small jewel of intelligence, kindness and psychology.

 

Actually the book deal a lot with Body deformation syndrome but then switch to

a all different level ... because we all have imitating beliefs . A MUST READ.

You may have to order it at your public library ..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> The first thing I want to say is that if dis-functioning parts of the brain

are involved, Transcendental Meditation is the perfect solution. It has been

well publicised that what scientists call 'holes in the head' occur in many

ordinary people, who show no symptoms whatsoever. These holes in the head are

areas which are effectively 'dead'. Infact I think the majority of people have

these disfunctioning areas. But the practice of Transcendental Meditation, which

anyone can do, because it is a simple, effortless technique which doesn't take a

long time to practice, brings about a state of holistic brain functioning; and

the integration and wholeness increases over time.

>

> The second thing is that 80% of acute schizophrenics can be totally cured and

returned to the work-place by nutritional intervention. This isn't just good

food, but sophisticated mineral etc intervention to make up for a genetic

predisposition. I have copied the information below; but first I want to say my

third point.

>

> I am very much wanting to get this information across, but nobody seems to

want to know, except the already-converted. The public isn't interested, and

psychiatrists just want to carry on as they are. I believe the only way that

change can come is by political will, and I am willing to march carrying a

placard, but I think I will have to start alone. The first law I would change is

to make it impossible to become a psychiatrist unless you have studied

psychology for at least three years. Astonishingly, psychiatrists are just

doctors who have done a post-grad in how to control the symptoms of mental

illness using drugs. They have not gone through a psychology course, and they

know nothing about psychotherapy or counselling or any other technique for

dealing with emotional or mental trauma. There are two very good websites which

talk about the contemporary scene, and the second one talks about therapies to

cure schizophrenia. Do a search for Eleanor Longden and you will read her

horrific story (with a happy ending).

>

> http://wellbeingfou ndation.com/ interviews_ pg1.html

>

> www.rufusmay.com

>

> Here is the information about nutritional treatment of schizophrenia: Patrick

Holford reports: " According to Dr Abram Hoffer, former Director of Psychiatric

Research for part of Canada, tranquillisers never cure mental illness because

they merely replace one psychosis with another. After 40 years' experience as a

psychiatrist he recommends them only as a last, and temporary, resort. Instead

he favours nutritional intervention which, he says, cures 80% of acute

schizophrenia, a claim backed up by his own and independent double-blind

controlled studies. His definition of 'cure' is threefold: free from symptoms,

able to socialise with family and community, and paying income tax! The latter,

meaning gainful employment, is a rare event for people on tranquillisers " .

>

> Hoffer, A. & Osmond, H., 'Treatment of schizophrenia with Nicotinic Acid,'

Acta. Psych. Scand., vol 40, 171-189, (1964)

> Hoffer, A., Chronic Schizophrenia Patients Treated Ten Years or More,' J.

Orthomol. Med., vol 9:1, p1-37, (1994)

>

> He continues: " Some people produce excessive amounts of kryptopyrroles, which

can be detected in the urine. The formation of this biochemical robs the body of

zinc and vitamin B6, effectively creating a deficiency and need far in excess of

what is generally considered necessary for optimum health. This condition, known

as pyroluria, is found in about 10% of the general population and about 50% of

those with mental illness. A period of stress, which depletes zinc, can tip a

person with this biochemical tendency over the edge. The result may well be

symptoms such as depression, confusion, disturbed thinking and social

withdrawal.

>

> " Pyroluria is easily detected with a simple urine test currently costing only

£11, and corrected by improved nutrition together with supplements of zinc and

vitamin B6. Since zinc competes with manganese, this element is usually

supplemented as well "

>

> Dominic Bere

>

> , cheryl bullock <cooee.shari@>

wrote:

> >

> > there was programe on tv a few nights ago in reguards to this problem-i am

in nsw of australia-they use to believe that this was a physiatric problem till

recent studies of such people proved that one part of their brain  does not

function -i can't remember which  part but it is approximately rear   going

close to the top on the left-but i may be out somewhat as the programme was a

short one and only computer diagram flashed on to show approximate area---so

this is no longer  regarded       as 

> > mental health problem but a neurological one-do more research into  it then

find  some herbs and foods that may aid in stimulation of these areas-it is a

new discovery and some furthur research is necessary however these patients need

some help as they usually  try to  self amputate- with some dire consequences.

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > Shyam Chandel <chandel_shyam@>

> > mdesoi <mdesoi@>;

> > Friday, 22 May, 2009 11:11:21 PM

> > Getting off psychiatric drugs- Body defomation

syndrome

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Could you have a alternate solution for mental health problem  which is also

known as body deformation syndrome    in which the patient feels that a part of

his body is deformed  and can be rectified by  surgery ,where as he is perfectly

fine  which results in serious mental tension & depression .  The only solution

suggested by doctors is to have psychatric drugs/counselling . Any solution in

alternate medicines/methods?

> >  

> > Regards

> >  

> > SS Chandel

> >

> > --- On Mon, 18/5/09, mdesoi <mdesoi > wrote:

> >

> > mdesoi <mdesoi >

> > Getting of psychiatric drugs

> >

> > Monday, 18 May, 2009, 7:09 PM

> >

> > I expected serious discourse when I offered my opinion. To date, my post has

been attacked and I've been accused of something for which there is no basis.

With one exception, the content of my post has been completely ignored. I don't

understand why.

> >

> > At no point did I make a statement to any extreme including any disrespect

for vitamins and CAM. I am, in fact, a member for a reason. Personal success

with a regimen is not compelling however true the success might be. As I

understand the thread, the topic was bi-polar as a widespread issue. I am glad

each of you has had success. God bless you. Perhaps I mis-read the topic.

> >

> > Be advised, this is not an apology. I work, on a voluntary basis, with many

people who suffer from mental illness. Over the last nine years, I personally

have witnessed five suicides, the loss of seven homes due to manic episodes (the

result of financial excess), fourteen marriages lost and seven families driven

into homeless shelters...all the result of BPAD. Perhaps CAM would have

prevented all these eventualities.

> >

> > If, in fact, your assessment is true, don't each of you hold responsibility

to extend yourselves further than a to spread the message? You hold

the key to a health problem that effects between 1-4% of the worldwide

population. If I had such a solution, personally, I'd find a way to help that

many people. I don't have such a solution. As such, I volunteer to help those

who suffer.

> >

> > In consideration of the position that CAM can have the effect supposed, will

it also solve schizophrenia? My experience, although limited to only twenty-two

schizophrenics has demonstrated to me that schizophrenia exists along the

continuum of mental illness occupied by BPAD. The question, while is looks

sarcastic, is not. Please advise.

> >

> > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel

http://in.travel. /

> >

> >