Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Hi all, I have a question. I have a 6 mos old who I have been breastfeeding up til now. I have given her small amounts of banana, avocado, applesauce and sweet potato. She tends to get constipated with the banana/applesauce. Anyway, here is my dilemma if it is one... She is not gaining wait like my doctor wants. She is only 11 lbs 9 oz. She is developing and growing well, but the weight gain isn't there. Now my other 2 daughters were like this, maybe a little better in the weight department but they were slow growers. This one doesn't reach the 5 percentile which the doctor is concerned about... She is active, but a happy child too. So anyway, my doctor suggested giving her rice cereal. I am not fond of it because it is empty calories, anyone have a suggestion as to what I should do. I tried sprouting rice to make my own, but maybe I did something wrong it was just too hard/gritty. Anything else that would help with her weight gain? Thanks for any help. Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Hi Lisa, I know that having a doctor concerned about your baby's development can be concerning, but honestly, I personally wouldn't give it much thought or worry. (In fact, I wouldn't take my baby to a medical doctor at all! LOL!) You are the best person to LOOK at your daughter and see if she's healthy and thriving. If she's not " measuring up " to the latest medico chart, who cares? They don't know what to do with the majority of people that don't fall in the " average " category that they have listed on their charts. I especially wouldn't be concerned if your other kids also had a tendency to be on the small side. Sounds like this new one is right on track! LOL! Now, of course, if you really LOOK at your daughter, and you don't think she's well, then of course a medical doctor can sometimes provide valuable diagnostic assistance, but then I would still stay away from any treatment that they might suggest. They are just working off way too much false data. On the rice cereal, how did you sprout the rice and how did you cook the cereal? Best, Kelli | | Lisa F. [malica98] | Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:27 AM | herbal remedies | Herbal Remedies - Baby Food Issue OT? | | | | Hi all, | | I have a question. I have a 6 mos old who I have been | breastfeeding up til | now. I have given her small amounts of banana, avocado, | applesauce and | sweet potato. She tends to get constipated with the | banana/applesauce. | Anyway, here is my dilemma if it is one... She is not | gaining wait like my | doctor wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 My son did fine on organic "cheerios", brown rice, soy milk, etc. Joe Kelli Bever [kelli] Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:53 PMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - Baby Food Issue OT?| | Hi all,| | I have a question. I have a 6 mos old who I have been | breastfeeding up til| now. I have given her small amounts of banana, avocado, | applesauce and| sweet potato. She tends to get constipated with the | banana/applesauce.| Anyway, here is my dilemma if it is one... She is not | gaining wait like my| doctor wants. -- Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release 1/3/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Hi Lisa, I agree with Kelli, my daughter was only five pounds when I brought her home, and she turned out fine! But rather than worry about the percentile she is in, would you say she lacks appetite? Do her eyes look sallow, stuff like that. As for the banana/applesauce, do you give her water? I breastfed my daughter but made sure when I began introducing foods I also gave her distilled water to help her body flush the food thru her system. Good Luck! Michelle Kelli Bever [kelli] Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:53 PM To: herbal remedies RE: Herbal Remedies - Baby Food Issue OT? Hi Lisa, I know that having a doctor concerned about your baby's development can be concerning, but honestly, I personally wouldn't give it much thought or worry. (In fact, I wouldn't take my baby to a medical doctor at all! LOL!) You are the best person to LOOK at your daughter and see if she's healthy and thriving. If she's not " measuring up " to the latest medico chart, who cares? They don't know what to do with the majority of people that don't fall in the " average " category that they have listed on their charts. I especially wouldn't be concerned if your other kids also had a tendency to be on the small side. Sounds like this new one is right on track! LOL! Now, of course, if you really LOOK at your daughter, and you don't think she's well, then of course a medical doctor can sometimes provide valuable diagnostic assistance, but then I would still stay away from any treatment that they might suggest. They are just working off way too much false data. On the rice cereal, how did you sprout the rice and how did you cook the cereal? Best, Kelli | | Lisa F. [malica98] | Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:27 AM | herbal remedies | Herbal Remedies - Baby Food Issue OT? | | | | Hi all, | | I have a question. I have a 6 mos old who I have been | breastfeeding up til | now. I have given her small amounts of banana, avocado, | applesauce and | sweet potato. She tends to get constipated with the | banana/applesauce. | Anyway, here is my dilemma if it is one... She is not | gaining wait like my | doctor wants. Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 All children grow at their own rates. Both my kids are on the smaller side but they are healthy. Marin was 14.5 pounds at 7 months! But, she was active, she was happy, and she was healthy. Also, at about 4mo, breastfed babies tend to slow down in their growth. Unlike formula, mama's milk changes to the baby's needs. So, formula fed babies are getting the same stuff at 6mo that they were getting as newborns and tend to grow fatter. Those growth charts are based on formula fed babies. Also, I might point out that Marin who was no quite 13 pounds at 4.5mo, 14.5 pounds at 7 mo, is now 12.5mo and is just barely eating solids by about 2 weeks- for the last 2.5 mo I have given her tastes here and there but she was still almost 100% breastfed- is now about 20 pounds. She is thin but she is healthy and very active. Marisa Domestic Engineer and Mother of 2 | | | Hi all, | | I have a question. I have a 6 mos old who I have been | breastfeeding up til | now. I have given her small amounts of banana, avocado, | applesauce and | sweet potato. She tends to get constipated with the | banana/applesauce. | Anyway, here is my dilemma if it is one... She is not | gaining wait like my | doctor wants. -- Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release 1/3/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 First of all rice cereal isn't necessarily empty calories. There are some good organic amd " whole food " brands of cereal available now - both through the health food sections of your regular grocery store and the health food store. (This isn't the white rice you get at the Chinese take out.) Rice cereal is less likely to cause allergies, is easier to digest, and helps to train the digestive tract before moving to harder to digest grains such as oatmeal or multi-grain cereals. Bananas are binding so, take her off banana for now (test the Avocado separately so you know her reaction to it). Instead give her pureed fruits - applesauce, pears, peaches. Prunes are good (babies tend to love them) which will balance out the rice cereal keeping her from becoming constipated. Hope this helps. herbal remedies , " Lisa F. " <malica98@p...> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have a question. I have a 6 mos old who I have been breastfeeding up til > now. I have given her small amounts of banana, avocado, applesauce and > sweet potato. She tends to get constipated with the banana/applesauce. > Anyway, here is my dilemma if it is one... She is not gaining wait like my > doctor wants. She is only 11 lbs 9 oz. She is developing and growing well, > but the weight gain isn't there. Now my other 2 daughters were like this, > maybe a little better in the weight department but they were slow growers. > This one doesn't reach the 5 percentile which the doctor is concerned > about... She is active, but a happy child too. So anyway, my doctor > suggested giving her rice cereal. I am not fond of it because it is empty > calories, anyone have a suggestion as to what I should do. I tried > sprouting rice to make my own, but maybe I did something wrong it was just > too hard/gritty. Anything else that would help with her weight gain? > Thanks for any help. > > Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 I'd stay away from the soy. See Doc's article and other references - they are mostly GMO. It's too bad, but that is the truth. herbal remedies , " Joe Anshien " <janshien> wrote: > My son did fine on organic " cheerios " , brown rice, soy milk, etc. > > Joe > > _____ > > Kelli Bever [kelli@c...] > Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:53 PM > herbal remedies > RE: Herbal Remedies - Baby Food Issue OT? > > > | > | Hi all, > | > | I have a question. I have a 6 mos old who I have been > | breastfeeding up til > | now. I have given her small amounts of banana, avocado, > | applesauce and > | sweet potato. She tends to get constipated with the > | banana/applesauce. > | Anyway, here is my dilemma if it is one... She is not > | gaining wait like my > | doctor wants. -- > > > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release 1/3/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Lisa~ My last baby (#9, born full term, at 7lbs 6oz) wasn't gaining weight very well (ounces per month instead of pounds). At about 5 months old (10 lbs 4.5oz), I just Knew that something wasn't right with my milk (which was Incredibly hard to admit since I'm becoming a LLL leader ;-) lol) and went to talk to a naturopathic doctor. He listened to my history (9 full term pregnancies, breastfed the last 6 of them, age 42, etc.) and suggested that I was probably not getting enough good fats in my diet to support the health of my baby~ that my milk may not have been rich enough. He suggested Virgin Coconut Oil and several other things (most of which I was already taking). I immediately bought the VCO (I just " knew " that that's what the problem was), and within 2 months my baby girl had gained 2 pounds, and in the next 2 months, she gained 3 pounds more! My ped was thrilled, but I was watching very closely to her development~ I noticed a Huge difference in her developmental growth spurts. All of a sudden she was hitting developmental stuff that it seemed like she couldn't somehow before... I don't know if that makes sense. She was Always extremely healthy (never sick) but she just wasn't quite hitting those milestones like my other kids had. Anyway, sorry for all the detail, but I wanted to share what happened with me and to plug Virgin Coconut Oil. ;-) I get mine from Tropical Traditions (online) but there are other brands out there too. Whatever brand you get (if you decide to go that route) just make sure it's Not processed. As to your doctor, well, they're used to babies being formula fed and thus expect bigger weight gains in shorter amounts of time. Here is a link to the Breastfed Baby Weight Gain chart for your own information: http://www.kellymom.com/babyconcerns/growth/weight-gain.html As to the rice cereal~ as you said, it's just a filler. There really isn't a good reason to give it to your baby. The avocado, potato, banana, applesauce, etc. are Much healthier (as you know). I haven't used this book, but I know a Lot of moms online who love it, so I'm passing it on to you (in case you don't already know about it): http://www.superbabyfood.com/ HTH~ Jan G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Hi Kelli, Well I sprouted the rice, then dried it out and ground it up. Then I tried to cook it in water. There is a possibility that I didn't have enough water. Is this the right way or does drying it ruin it? I don't know I ought to try it again.... I hate to use the boxed stuff. I try and make all the food. Yes, I really don't like doctors much. I only just had to start using them because my daughter had pneumonia. It was scary for me, but I used Homeopathy in conjunction with antibiotics. Everything turned out ok. Anyway, thanks for the info. I won't worry too much. I always worry. As another mother told me sarcastically. It is such a relief to know that I will be dead and buried before I stop worrying about my kids. Lisa " Kelli Bever " <kelli herbal remedies Tue, 4 Jan 2005 14:52:56 -0800 <herbal remedies > RE: Herbal Remedies - Baby Food Issue OT? Hi Lisa, I know that having a doctor concerned about your baby's development can be concerning, but honestly, I personally wouldn't give it much thought or worry. (In fact, I wouldn't take my baby to a medical doctor at all! LOL!) You are the best person to LOOK at your daughter and see if she's healthy and thriving. If she's not " measuring up " to the latest medico chart, who cares? They don't know what to do with the majority of people that don't fall in the " average " category that they have listed on their charts. I especially wouldn't be concerned if your other kids also had a tendency to be on the small side. Sounds like this new one is right on track! LOL! Now, of course, if you really LOOK at your daughter, and you don't think she's well, then of course a medical doctor can sometimes provide valuable diagnostic assistance, but then I would still stay away from any treatment that they might suggest. They are just working off way too much false data. On the rice cereal, how did you sprout the rice and how did you cook the cereal? Best, Kelli | | Lisa F. [malica98] | Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:27 AM | herbal remedies | Herbal Remedies - Baby Food Issue OT? | | | | Hi all, | | I have a question. I have a 6 mos old who I have been | breastfeeding up til | now. I have given her small amounts of banana, avocado, | applesauce and | sweet potato. She tends to get constipated with the | banana/applesauce. | Anyway, here is my dilemma if it is one... She is not | gaining wait like my | doctor wants. Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 I feel stupid, Lisa, but I can’t for the life of me figure out what OT means. Can you clue me in? Carole Lisa F. [malica98] Tuesday, January 04, 2005 12:27 PM herbal remedies Herbal Remedies - Baby Food Issue OT? Hi all, I have a question. I have a 6 mos old who I have been breastfeeding up til now. I have given her small amounts of banana, avocado, applesauce and sweet potato. She tends to get constipated with the banana/applesauce. Anyway, here is my dilemma if it is one... She is not gaining wait like my doctor wants. She is only 11 lbs 9 oz. She is developing and growing well, but the weight gain isn't there. Now my other 2 daughters were like this, maybe a little better in the weight department but they were slow growers. This one doesn't reach the 5 percentile which the doctor is concerned about... She is active, but a happy child too. So anyway, my doctor suggested giving her rice cereal. I am not fond of it because it is empty calories, anyone have a suggestion as to what I should do. I tried sprouting rice to make my own, but maybe I did something wrong it was just too hard/gritty. Anything else that would help with her weight gain? Thanks for any help. Lisa Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Hi Lisa, When I sprout rice for cooking, I don't dry it first. I just soak it in water for 12 hours, and then immediately cook it. If you want to mash it up for a baby, you can mash it once it's cooked with a blender - that's what I used to do for my son :-) love Lisa - Lisa F. herbal remedies Wednesday, January 05, 2005 2:59 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - Baby Food Issue OT? Hi Kelli,Well I sprouted the rice, then dried it out and ground it up. Then I tried to cook it in water. There is a possibility that I didn't have enough water. Is this the right way or does drying it ruin it? I don't know I ought to try it again.... I hate to use the boxed stuff. I try and make all the food. Yes, I really don't like doctors much. I only just had to start using them because my daughter had pneumonia. It was scary for me, but I used Homeopathy in conjunction with antibiotics. Everything turned out ok. Anyway, thanks for the info. I won't worry too much. I always worry. As another mother told me sarcastically. It is such a relief to know that I will be dead and buried before I stop worrying about my kids. Lisa "Kelli Bever" <kelliherbal remedies Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 14:52:56 -0800<herbal remedies >RE: Herbal Remedies - Baby Food Issue OT? Hi Lisa,I know that having a doctor concerned about your baby's development canbe concerning, but honestly, I personally wouldn't give it much thoughtor worry. (In fact, I wouldn't take my baby to a medical doctor at all!LOL!) You are the best person to LOOK at your daughter and see if she'shealthy and thriving. If she's not "measuring up" to the latest medicochart, who cares? They don't know what to do with the majority of peoplethat don't fall in the "average" category that they have listed on theircharts. I especially wouldn't be concerned if your other kids also had atendency to be on the small side. Sounds like this new one is right ontrack! LOL!Now, of course, if you really LOOK at your daughter, and you don't thinkshe's well, then of course a medical doctor can sometimes providevaluable diagnostic assistance, but then I would still stay away fromany treatment that they might suggest. They are just working off way toomuch false data.On the rice cereal, how did you sprout the rice and how did you cook thecereal? Best,Kelli| | Lisa F. [malica98] | Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:27 AM| herbal remedies | Herbal Remedies - Baby Food Issue OT?| | | | Hi all,| | I have a question. I have a 6 mos old who I have been | breastfeeding up til| now. I have given her small amounts of banana, avocado, | applesauce and| sweet potato. She tends to get constipated with the | banana/applesauce.| Anyway, here is my dilemma if it is one... She is not | gaining wait like my| doctor wants. Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 I'm a different Lisa, but can tell you anyhow that OT means Off Topic; ie not about natural healing, although in my opinion baby food issue is pretty much a topic for natural and healthy living - baby food should be healthy also LOL. love Lisa dH - Carole Eddington herbal remedies Wednesday, January 05, 2005 5:15 AM RE: Herbal Remedies - Baby Food Issue OT? I feel stupid, Lisa, but I can’t for the life of me figure out what OT means. Can you clue me in? Carole Lisa F. [malica98] Tuesday, January 04, 2005 12:27 PMherbal remedies Subject: Herbal Remedies - Baby Food Issue OT? Hi all,I have a question. I have a 6 mos old who I have been breastfeeding up tilnow. I have given her small amounts of banana, avocado, applesauce andsweet potato. She tends to get constipated with the banana/applesauce.Anyway, here is my dilemma if it is one... She is not gaining wait like mydoctor wants. She is only 11 lbs 9 oz. She is developing and growing well,but the weight gain isn't there. Now my other 2 daughters were like this,maybe a little better in the weight department but they were slow growers.This one doesn't reach the 5 percentile which the doctor is concernedabout... She is active, but a happy child too. So anyway, my doctorsuggested giving her rice cereal. I am not fond of it because it is emptycalories, anyone have a suggestion as to what I should do. I triedsprouting rice to make my own, but maybe I did something wrong it was justtoo hard/gritty. Anything else that would help with her weight gain?Thanks for any help.LisaFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Oh, wow, I never would have guessed that, because yeah, nutrition for babies is right on topic here, I would think. Thanks! Lisa de Haas [lisa] Wednesday, January 05, 2005 7:11 AM herbal remedies Re: Herbal Remedies - Baby Food Issue OT? I'm a different Lisa, but can tell you anyhow that OT means Off Topic; ie not about natural healing, although in my opinion baby food issue is pretty much a topic for natural and healthy living - baby food should be healthy also LOL. love Lisa dH - Carole Eddington herbal remedies Wednesday, January 05, 2005 5:15 AM RE: Herbal Remedies - Baby Food Issue OT? I feel stupid, Lisa, but I can’t for the life of me figure out what OT means. Can you clue me in? Carole Lisa F. [malica98] Tuesday, January 04, 2005 12:27 PM herbal remedies Herbal Remedies - Baby Food Issue OT? Hi all, I have a question. I have a 6 mos old who I have been breastfeeding up til now. I have given her small amounts of banana, avocado, applesauce and sweet potato. She tends to get constipated with the banana/applesauce. Anyway, here is my dilemma if it is one... She is not gaining wait like my doctor wants. She is only 11 lbs 9 oz. She is developing and growing well, but the weight gain isn't there. Now my other 2 daughters were like this, maybe a little better in the weight department but they were slow growers. This one doesn't reach the 5 percentile which the doctor is concerned about... She is active, but a happy child too. So anyway, my doctor suggested giving her rice cereal. I am not fond of it because it is empty calories, anyone have a suggestion as to what I should do. I tried sprouting rice to make my own, but maybe I did something wrong it was just too hard/gritty. Anything else that would help with her weight gain? Thanks for any help. Lisa Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Hi Lisa, I never made rice cereal when my daughter was a baby, kept her on fruits and veggies, but if I were to make rice cereal, I'd probably do the following: sprout the rice, cook it (without drying it), then puree it in the blender, adding water as necessary to reach the proper thickness. When I made my daughter's baby food, I'd make a whole bunch once a week or so and freeze it in ice cube trays so that I could take cubes out for her meals as needed. It worked out very well at the time. Yes, we all worry about our kids! It's one of the hazards of the job! LOL!!! Best, Kelli Lisa F. [malica98] Tuesday, January 04, 2005 7:00 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Baby Food Issue OT? Hi Kelli,Well I sprouted the rice, then dried it out and ground it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Baby food is healthy if you make it yourself. -- In herbal remedies , " Lisa de Haas " <lisa@l...> wrote: > I'm a different Lisa, but can tell you anyhow that OT means Off Topic; ie not about natural healing, although in my opinion baby food issue is pretty much a topic for natural and healthy living - baby food should be healthy also LOL. > > love > Lisa dH > - > Carole Eddington > herbal remedies > Wednesday, January 05, 2005 5:15 AM > RE: Herbal Remedies - Baby Food Issue OT? > > > I feel stupid, Lisa, but I can't for the life of me figure out what OT means. Can you clue me in? > > > > Carole > > > > > - ----------- > > Lisa F. [malica98@p...] > Tuesday, January 04, 2005 12:27 PM > herbal remedies > Herbal Remedies - Baby Food Issue OT? > > > > > Hi all, > > I have a question. I have a 6 mos old who I have been breastfeeding up til > now. I have given her small amounts of banana, avocado, applesauce and > sweet potato. She tends to get constipated with the banana/applesauce. > Anyway, here is my dilemma if it is one... She is not gaining wait like my > doctor wants. She is only 11 lbs 9 oz. She is developing and growing well, > but the weight gain isn't there. Now my other 2 daughters were like this, > maybe a little better in the weight department but they were slow growers. > This one doesn't reach the 5 percentile which the doctor is concerned > about... She is active, but a happy child too. So anyway, my doctor > suggested giving her rice cereal. I am not fond of it because it is empty > calories, anyone have a suggestion as to what I should do. I tried > sprouting rice to make my own, but maybe I did something wrong it was just > too hard/gritty. Anything else that would help with her weight gain? > Thanks for any help. > > Lisa Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington@G... Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington@G... > > > > - ----------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 My son is 8 months old and thin as well. He currently weighs 16lbs and falls into the 10%...which my doctor considers low as well but doesn't fuss about. He also happens to be 95% for length LOL. Growth charts are mainly based on formula fed infants...not exculsively breastfed babies. Breastfed babies often times are leaner. As long as your baby is happy and nurses and eats well, there is no worry in my opinion. In terms of the rice cereal being empty calories. Breastmilk contains more calories per ounce than rice cereal. I never understood why docs recommend babies to eat rice cereal to fatten them up. Breastmilk alone would do that. That said, I do feed my son rice cereal as opposed to mixed cereal because the mixed constains wheat and that could introduce an early sensitivity. The bulk of the rice cereal when mixed with carrots etc fills him up a bit more than carrots alone. Of course, he is still being nursed as well. Don't worry about the growth charts. Go with your parental instinct and happiness of your child. Cheers Jenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 I had the opposite happen with my son. He was breastfed but was 110% (how it's possible to be over 100% I don't know) in weight and 95% for height. He was always the chunkiest of the chunks when he was a baby. People told me I should watch what I fed him and stop feeding him junk food. He didn't get any! He nursed and that was it. I say don't listen to anyone. YOU know when your kids are healthy and that's all that matters! I stopped taking Brock in for checkups when he was an infant and he's still alive and well. : ) Candace - Jenn herbal remedies Friday, January 07, 2005 12:19 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Baby Food Issue OT? My son is 8 months old and thin as well. He currently weighs 16lbs and falls into the 10%...which my doctor considers low as well but doesn't fuss about. He also happens to be 95% for length LOL. Growth charts are mainly based on formula fed infants...not exculsively breastfed babies. Breastfed babies often times are leaner. As long as your baby is happy and nurses and eats well, there is no worry in my opinion. In terms of the rice cereal being empty calories. Breastmilk contains more calories per ounce than rice cereal. I never understood why docs recommend babies to eat rice cereal to fatten them up. Breastmilk alone would do that. That said, I do feed my son rice cereal as opposed to mixed cereal because the mixed constains wheat and that could introduce an early sensitivity. The bulk of the rice cereal when mixed with carrots etc fills him up a bit more than carrots alone. Of course, he is still being nursed as well. Don't worry about the growth charts. Go with your parental instinct and happiness of your child. CheersJennFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2005 Report Share Posted January 7, 2005 That is defineatly the truth. When my oldest daughter was 2 (she is 8 now) she wore 6-9 month clothing and weighed 15 pounds. It wasnt from not eating, she has always been a good and healthy eater. She wore 18 month clothing when she started pre-k at 4 and then she started growing. She is in second grade now and is one of the tallest in the class and although she is still slender she is not skinny. All that time I worried about her size, and she turned out just right...lol ---- herbal remedies 01/07/05 14:19:05 herbal remedies Re: Herbal Remedies - Baby Food Issue OT? My son is 8 months old and thin as well. He currently weighs 16lbs and falls into the 10%...which my doctor considers low as well but doesn't fuss about. He also happens to be 95% for length LOL. Growth charts are mainly based on formula fed infants...not exculsively breastfed babies. Breastfed babies often times are leaner. As long as your baby is happy and nurses and eats well, there is no worry in my opinion. In terms of the rice cereal being empty calories. Breastmilk contains more calories per ounce than rice cereal. I never understood why docs recommend babies to eat rice cereal to fatten them up. Breastmilk alone would do that. That said, I do feed my son rice cereal as opposed to mixed cereal because the mixed constains wheat and that could introduce an early sensitivity. The bulk of the rice cereal when mixed with carrots etc fills him up a bit more than carrots alone. Of course, he is still being nursed as well. Don't worry about the growth charts. Go with your parental instinct and happiness of your child. Cheers Jenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Dear Lisa, Just remember that each child grows at a different rate, walks and talks at different ages, etc. My sister and I came from the same parents, but while growing up, I was always the shortest kid in my class, and she was always the tallest in hers. We were only 15 months apart, but everyone thought that we were many years apart. Here is my opinion about food. It is wonderful that you are breastfeeding. I breastfed my daughter. I also gave her small amounts of water(do not ever add sugar or other sweeteners like many people do) which I increased over time, and now she is 4 years old and still loves water. I fed her organic rice cereal and I put some breast milk in it. I made some baby foods for her, and I also bought jars of organic baby food. I waited on the fruit...stuck with the vegis first so she would not end up with a major sweet tooth. Her favorite was carrot(she had a slight orange tint to her skin from eating so much of it). About your baby being constipated...it is because of what she ate. There is something called the " BRAT " diet for someone who is suffering from diarrhea...they are suppose to eat B for banana, R for rice, A for applesauce, and T for toast -to return things to normal. Someone without diarrhea would most likely become constipated if they ate a bunch of these items. My daughter still loves several types of vegis. She goes wild over sprouts, cukes, cabbage, lettuce, carrots, green beans, broccoli, and many more. It was wonderful to see my little girl eating fresh vegis from our garden. Another thing, people out in public are shocked to hear her asking if we can get some broccoli! They also don't understand why she will be drinking water, as their kids are gulping down a soda pop. My daughter knows that cookies(healthier if we make our own) are a special treat, not an everyday thing. You really do have to get them in a habit of eating healthy things when they are young. My husband is the perfect example of that...he doesn't do much of anything that is healthy! Unfortunately, he also has a habit of sneaking candy to our daughter when I'm out of the room. Take care, Teresa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 I breastfed my daughter. I also gave her small > amounts of water(do not ever add sugar or other sweeteners like many > people do) which I increased over time, and now she is 4 years old and > still loves water. I fed her organic rice cereal and I put some > breast milk in it. I made some baby foods for her, and I also bought > jars of organic baby food. I waited on the fruit...stuck with the > vegis first so she would not end up with a major sweet tooth. ***Teresa, we did the same thing my now 6 year old daughter. We did give her some fruits though but she has always been a veggie lover. I remember one night out to dinner we ordered her a side of broccoli with her meal. Much to the amazement of the waitress, our daughter dug into the broccoli before she touched anything else on her plate. Nutrition starts as early as we teach it to our little ones! To this day she loves all veggies, raw or cooked. Hopefully my son will be the same way. He is only 8 months but loves peas, carrots, green beans, sweet potatoes...you name it! Jenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Hi - just had to jump in here - in a way as the voice of your children from the future LOL THANK YOU MOM!!!!! IT WORKED!!!! I still love water - I don't drink soda (too sweet plus I feel gross if I do). I still only drink 100% organic natural juice - I love all my vegies ('cept peas and lima bean and okra - unless it's pickled or in a stew so I don't know its there) I don't eat hardly any sugar - mostly honey - remember when I pouted because I couldn't have the same blue green red cereal my friends ate? and I told you I couldn't WAIT to move out so I could eat whatever I wanted? well i eat plain cheerios with milk for breakfast - (i bought a box of that cereal and it turned my milk purple-ish yucka!) i don't have any cavities - my husband and my best friend think I'm weird because I have never been sick - and I even got the hubby to eat artichokes and asparagus and carrots - well he eats ALL his veggies now - remember when he didn't eat any? .................... Hi Everyone ~ ~ *waves from CA* My name is Tash and I'm 32. The things that you guys are doing with your kids - I can *guarantee* you - they stick! My mom did the same things with me - and trust me - they stuck! I know I am repeating myself ...but...LOL for me to sit back and look at how I ate as a child...I can't thank my parents enough. When I was 20 I found out I was born with only one kidney - quite by accident no less. I was ~hurting~ so I went to the ob/gyn instead of the regular doctor. Of course they checked for tubal pregs and what not...next thing I know I'm down one kidney and had a pulled groin muscle. great. I cried to mom and dad; both of them were shocked. Needless to say at that very moment I have been forever indebted to my mom. She fed me just as you are feeding your own children and I can't thank her enough. I've never been sick. (except for 64 chicken pox and one bout with swimmers ear - my own fault) To this day I've never had a uti or a yeast infection - or any of the yucky things that go with having kidney issues. If mom had let me eat all the junk my friends ate - I swear - I would prolly be dead - well maybe not dead - but certainly not as happy and healthy as I am now. And I'm SURE I would have been plagued with all kinds of other issues........because for some reason...my body just wouldn't process normal things like red dye #5 properly?? Moms and Dads out there - the best thing you can do for your kids is teach them healthy eating habits. It truly is the gift of life. To my mom and dad - Thank you both... for seeing the things parents are supposed to see because their children cannot. waggs~~~ Natasha Oscianna7 wrote: and now she is 4 years old and > still loves water. Jenn wrote: ***Teresa, we did the same thing my now 6 year old daughter. <snip> To this day she loves all veggies, raw or cooked. Hopefully my son will be the same way. He is only 8 months but loves peas, carrots, green beans, sweet potatoes...you name it! Jenn Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Oh that is beautiful, Natasha! I'm going to share this with my 10 yr old daughter...! Best, Kelli Natasha Cutwright-Boyd [hunipt] Saturday, January 08, 2005 4:29 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Baby Food Issue OT? Hi - just had to jump in here - in a way as the voice of your children from the future LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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