Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Below is part of a conversation that was sent to me by a friend who claims this comm happened among some computer geeks, overheard recently while standing in line at a fast food restaurant. They were talking about the various software, some of it free (like Skype and X-Lite for example), that makes it possible (using a headset and microphone) to talk via the internet (as if by telephone) to another computer user, similarly equipped, anwhere in the world - for free - or nearly so.) This is what was said, "The whole internet telephony scene is interesting because the FEDZ can't figure out how to sort out digitized voices from all of the other digital traffic on the internet, and therefore can't wiretap it and they are going nuts over this, but the news media of course isn't covering it. More fun than a barrel of monkeys." "What's even better is that the federal courts have so far refused the FEDZ attempt to classify, tax, and regulate internet service providers as telephone companies, which is something they were trying hard to do." " The big phone monopolies were really pushing for that because they (internet providers) can wire up an office building with broadband internet and then provide internet phones with a gateway to the public telephone network for way less money than what the monopolies are charging." Perhaps there is still a way to have privacy in your phone conversations without our arrogant, nosey, grasping, obnoxious, too big for his britches, dog wagging, illigitimate, usurping, "Big Brother" wannabe tyrant listening in - at least for a while. ;-) Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-447-5282Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Oh my phone has so much static, doc, that I can barely maintain a connection. This is week 3 of the phone problems. A friend told me that my obvious lack of correct religion and my big mouth have conspired to cause Homeland Security to poke into my life and that is the problem. I see your mouth might be a rather large one too. Flo - Dr. Ian Shillington Perhaps there is still a way to have privacy in your phone conversations without our arrogant, nosey, grasping, obnoxious, too big for his britches, dog wagging, illigitimate, usurping, "Big Brother" wannabe tyrant listening in - at least for a while. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 And it has been known to get me into trouble once in a while LOL :-) Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-447-5282Doc - Flo herbal remedies Tuesday, January 04, 2005 3:48 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Internet Telephony Oh my phone has so much static, doc, that I can barely maintain a connection. This is week 3 of the phone problems. A friend told me that my obvious lack of correct religion and my big mouth have conspired to cause Homeland Security to poke into my life and that is the problem. I see your mouth might be a rather large one too. Flo - Dr. Ian Shillington Perhaps there is still a way to have privacy in your phone conversations without our arrogant, nosey, grasping, obnoxious, too big for his britches, dog wagging, illigitimate, usurping, "Big Brother" wannabe tyrant listening in - at least for a while. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Hi Doc, I've been working in IT for 12+ years and curently work in the security field. I'm not sure thwe overheard geeks were geeky enough. " The whole internet telephony scene is interesting because the FEDZ can't figure out how to sort out digitized voices from all of the other digital traffic on the internet, and therefore can't wiretap it and they are going nuts over this, but the news media of course isn't covering it. More fun than a barrel of monkeys. " * *The government is actually trying to apply wiretap laws to VOIP because they *can*. Just like a phone, they need a place to plug in and listen, though. Computers operate similar to phone - someone sends and someone recieves. If a voice were nothing more than a part of the cloud, it wouldn't have an address to start from or go to and would therefore be useless. The Congress is also fighting over the status of VOI and is trying to keep it as free as possibly. Others, of course, want it regulation free, but with a government ear on it. Realistically, our Patriot Act covers about anything they want to do though.... I guess my point is, they can listen. They probably aren't supposed to. And they may or may not be allowed to. A hacker can.... - y ** Dr. Ian Shillington wrote: > Below is part of a conversation that was sent to me by a friend who > claims this comm happened among some computer geeks, overheard > recently while standing in line at a fast food restaurant. They were > talking about the various software, some of it free (like Skype and > X-Lite for example), that makes it possible (using a headset and > microphone) to talk via the internet (as if by telephone) to another > computer user, similarly equipped, anwhere in the world - for free - > or nearly so.) > > This is what was said, > > " The whole internet telephony scene is interesting because the FEDZ > can't figure out how to sort out digitized voices from all of the > other digital traffic on the internet, and therefore can't wiretap it > and they are going nuts over this, but the news media of course isn't > covering it. More fun than a barrel of monkeys. " > > " What's even better is that the federal courts have so far refused > the FEDZ attempt to classify, tax, and regulate internet service > providers as telephone companies, which is something they were trying > hard to do. " > > " The big phone monopolies were really pushing for that because > they (internet providers) can wire up an office building with > broadband internet and then provide internet phones with a gateway to > the public telephone network for way less money than what the > monopolies are charging. " > > Perhaps there is still a way to have privacy in your phone > conversations without our arrogant, nosey, grasping, obnoxious, too > big for his britches, dog wagging, illigitimate, usurping, " Big > Brother " wannabe tyrant listening in - at least for a while. ;-) > > Love, > > Doc > > Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D. > 727-447-5282 > Doc <Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Dear Y. Thanks for the clarification. I appreciate it. What you say makes perfect sense of course. All the best, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-447-5282Doc - Yuquibo herbal remedies Wednesday, January 05, 2005 10:58 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - Internet Telephony Hi Doc,I've been working in IT for 12+ years and curently work in the security field. I'm not sure thwe overheard geeks were geeky enough."The whole internet telephony scene is interesting because the FEDZ can't figure out how to sort out digitized voices from all of the other digital traffic on the internet, and therefore can't wiretap it and they are going nuts over this, but the news media of course isn't covering it. More fun than a barrel of monkeys."**The government is actually trying to apply wiretap laws to VOIP because they *can*. Just like a phone, they need a place to plug in and listen, though. Computers operate similar to phone - someone sends and someone recieves. If a voice were nothing more than a part of the cloud, it wouldn't have an address to start from or go to and would therefore be useless.The Congress is also fighting over the status of VOI and is trying to keep it as free as possibly. Others, of course, want it regulation free, but with a government ear on it.Realistically, our Patriot Act covers about anything they want to do though....I guess my point is, they can listen. They probably aren't supposed to. And they may or may not be allowed to.A hacker can....-y**Dr. Ian Shillington wrote:> Below is part of a conversation that was sent to me by a friend who > claims this comm happened among some computer geeks, overheard > recently while standing in line at a fast food restaurant. They were > talking about the various software, some of it free (like Skype and > X-Lite for example), that makes it possible (using a headset and > microphone) to talk via the internet (as if by telephone) to another > computer user, similarly equipped, anwhere in the world - for free - > or nearly so.)> > This is what was said,> > "The whole internet telephony scene is interesting because the FEDZ > can't figure out how to sort out digitized voices from all of the > other digital traffic on the internet, and therefore can't wiretap it > and they are going nuts over this, but the news media of course isn't > covering it. More fun than a barrel of monkeys." > > "What's even better is that the federal courts have so far refused > the FEDZ attempt to classify, tax, and regulate internet service > providers as telephone companies, which is something they were trying > hard to do." > > " The big phone monopolies were really pushing for that because > they (internet providers) can wire up an office building with > broadband internet and then provide internet phones with a gateway to > the public telephone network for way less money than what the > monopolies are charging."> > Perhaps there is still a way to have privacy in your phone > conversations without our arrogant, nosey, grasping, obnoxious, too > big for his britches, dog wagging, illigitimate, usurping, "Big > Brother" wannabe tyrant listening in - at least for a while. ;-)> > Love,> > Doc> > Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.> 727-447-5282> Doc <DocFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.