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Hi Candy,

 

I'm curious about your sleep apnea -- were you

prescribed a c-pap for it? I was diagnosed with sleep

apnea (I wake up about every 30 seconds) but I can't

sleep with a c-pap, and have come to question the

whole " diagnosis " thing. So I'm a very light sleeper

and wake a lot, so what? I'm no more like to run amok

even though I never sleep well.

What are you taking Neurontin for? Just a caution,

but this drug has been massively prescribed off-label

with no research or even word of mouth showing it

helped in many of those off-label uses. And I bet if

you could stop taking it you would find out that it is

indeed causing unpleasant side effects. (I have taken

Neurontin before, and decided that I'd rather have the

excruciating pain of trigeminal neuralgia, or kill

myself, that deal with all that Neurontin entails.)

 

Janelle

 

 

 

 

 

--- " C. Lucas " <cdlucas wrote:

I

> am currently taking

> Neurontin....and I've not had those problems you

> described. Perhaps an

> allergy? Maybe taking too high of a dosage?? Not

> sure. Some folks just

> cannot take some medications.....I know there are

> many that I cannot take.

> <shrug>

>

> There are many formulas and such in the files

> section on , perhaps you

> need to do a cleanse. I don't know. I'm fairly new

> here myself, and I

> haven't done a cleanse yet. Still trying to talk

> myself into it. :) I've

> been trying to eat healthfully, and exercise, and I

> am just taking it one

> day at a time. So, I am sure that I will try a

> cleanse soon. Perhaps after

> the 1st of the year.

>

> Hope this helped you a bit, and I do sympathize

> completely. I have suffered

> from migraines and the sleep thing for many years.

> I was just diagnosed

> with Sleep Apnea a few months back....and I still

> haven't found anything

> that totally gets rid of the migraines, but they

> seem to be better most of

> the time.

>

> Take care!

> Candy

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Candy,

I agree with Janelle, like I said I was on Neurontin for MS symptoms

(neuropathic pain) when I saw my specialist and she saw the dosage, she was

like " what the hell? " Neurontin reaches a plateau point...and it is

different for different patience. My neurologist told me that unfortunately

some doctors will up the dosage if the initial amount does not " seem " to

help....but it reaches a level where raising the amount OR continuing for an

extended period of time does not help AND you are more likely to develop

side effects. She took me off of it fairly quickly. I have found using

massage oils or lotions that have arnica as their MAIN ingredient helped a

lot with pins/needles and nerve pain etc. I think I've heard you can take

arnica internally also but I've never done that personally so I don't know

any details there. OH if you do look for an oil/lotion read the label, very

often it will say it has arnica and it really only has 0.5-2% arnica in it.

 

Happy New Year Everyone!!!

Michelle

 

 

Janelle Witter [janellewitter]

Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:22 PM

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Hi Candy,

 

I'm curious about your sleep apnea -- were you

prescribed a c-pap for it? I was diagnosed with sleep

apnea (I wake up about every 30 seconds) but I can't

sleep with a c-pap, and have come to question the

whole " diagnosis " thing. So I'm a very light sleeper

and wake a lot, so what? I'm no more like to run amok

even though I never sleep well.

What are you taking Neurontin for? Just a caution,

but this drug has been massively prescribed off-label

with no research or even word of mouth showing it

helped in many of those off-label uses. And I bet if

you could stop taking it you would find out that it is

indeed causing unpleasant side effects. (I have taken

Neurontin before, and decided that I'd rather have the

excruciating pain of trigeminal neuralgia, or kill

myself, that deal with all that Neurontin entails.)

 

Janelle

 

 

 

 

 

--- " C. Lucas " <cdlucas wrote:

I

> am currently taking

> Neurontin....and I've not had those problems you

> described. Perhaps an

> allergy? Maybe taking too high of a dosage?? Not

> sure. Some folks just

> cannot take some medications.....I know there are

> many that I cannot take.

> <shrug>

>

> There are many formulas and such in the files

> section on , perhaps you

> need to do a cleanse. I don't know. I'm fairly new

> here myself, and I

> haven't done a cleanse yet. Still trying to talk

> myself into it. :) I've

> been trying to eat healthfully, and exercise, and I

> am just taking it one

> day at a time. So, I am sure that I will try a

> cleanse soon. Perhaps after

> the 1st of the year.

>

> Hope this helped you a bit, and I do sympathize

> completely. I have suffered

> from migraines and the sleep thing for many years.

> I was just diagnosed

> with Sleep Apnea a few months back....and I still

> haven't found anything

> that totally gets rid of the migraines, but they

> seem to be better most of

> the time.

>

> Take care!

> Candy

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> Hi Candy,

> I'm curious about your sleep apnea -- were you

> prescribed a c-pap for it? I was diagnosed with sleep

> apnea (I wake up about every 30 seconds) but I can't

> sleep with a c-pap, and have come to question the

> whole " diagnosis " thing. So I'm a very light sleeper

> and wake a lot, so what?

> What are you taking Neurontin for?

> Janelle

<SNIP>

 

Hi Janelle,

 

Yes, I was prescribed a c-pap machine....and I use it most of the time. It

takes a bit of getting used to. I too questioned the diagnosis, but I can

tell the difference if I sleep with the machine. I feel much more

'normal'. Did you hear about Reggie White? The football player that just

died from complications that were in part from having sleep apnea? Very

very sad. :( If you didn't hear, I am sure if you do a google search, you

will find the info.

The body cannot be functioning fully if you aren't sleeping well....or

getting enough oxygen during the night. I don't just wake up....I totally

quit breathing during the night. I believe they said that I stopped

breathing about 20 or 25 times during a 6 hour period??? I can't remember

for sure. (So, about every 15 minutes....??) My husband actually noticed

that I quit breathing in my sleep, which is why I went for the testing.

Otherwise, I'd never have known about it.

 

On another note..... I am taking Neurontin for the nerve pain that I have

from a car accident....that happened almost 2 years ago. I have taken all

types of things....and been to physical therapy and such...and had no pain

relief whatsoever. I've only been taking the neurontin for 1 month, 3 times

per day....300 mg at a time. All of the pain isn't gone, but I am starting

to feel better. It's better than nothing. I am not saying that the drug is

for everyone....because it certainly isn't. Trust me, if I could find a

natural remedy for this, I would take it instead!!!! I have always hated

taking any type of prescription medication. I believe that most times it

causes more harm than good. However, after suffering this debilitating pain

for the last two years, taking the medication seems like the lesser of two

evils. I can now walk, and function more normally...when before, I was

lucky if I could walk from one end of our home to the other. I can now

also sit straight upright without feeling like I have a hot poker jabbing up

my spine. Like I said, I am not 100%....but I am getting better. I have

researched the Neurontin, and I know that it is used for alot of 'offlabel'

ailments. I am sure that it's used way more than it should be. However, I

am just grateful that I found something that helps a bit.

Hopefully, this isn't too much info....but my sex life has actually gotten

better, because it doesn't hurt for me and my husband to have 'relations'.

My moods have gotten better, because I am not so edgy from all of the pain.

I actually feel like cleaning house most days. LOL So, for me, I feel okay

in taking this medication. I may regret it in the long run, however, it's

nice being able to be 'me'. My kids are happy to have their mom back, and

my husband is glad to have his wife. By the way.....my car accident.....I

was hit multiple times by a fully loaded 18-wheeler (The truck and the load

weighed right at 80,000 pounds!!). So, I am just happy to be alive. :)

 

Hope I haven't bored you with all of this! (Probably waaaaay more than you

were curious about! LOL)

Take care, and I'll talk to ya later.

Candy

 

 

 

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