re: Are U.S. Health Experts Inflating Flu Statistics?

November 3, 2006

YES--to the tune of 000%

WE ARE LIVING IN THE MIDDLE OF A LIE.

THE CDC IS FABRICATING AND SPINNING ITS OWN DATA TO CONVINCE US THAT

THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE (ABOUT 36,000) ARE DYING FROM THE FLU EVERY YEAR IN

THE

US. WHEN ITS OWN POSTED DATA (UNDER ALL THE LIES) SHOWS THAT FLU IS

ABOUT

AS DEADLY AS ACCIDENTS INVOLVING TOASTERS FALLING ON PEOPLE FROM

APARTMENT

WINDOWS.

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CDC, Media Hype The Flu - Facts Show Different Picture

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Vaccine maker Chiron had their license suspended and a year's worth of

flu vaccines produced in a British factory was not approved for sale in

the US - contamination problems. The media treated us to stories of

seniors standing in line for hours to " get the flu shot " . What they did

not say was that the flu is nowhere near as dangerous as they told us

previously. Who has not... [read more

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November 06, 2004 - Sepp Hasslberger

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cdc_flu_statistics_as_season_ draws_to_close.htm

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" Trends in Pneumonia and Influenza/Morbidity and Mortality. "

This report comes from " Research and Scientific Affairs/Epidemiology and

Statistics Unit. " At the bottom of the document, the source is listed

as: National Center for Health Statistics, Report of Final Mortality

Statistics, 1979-2001.

Get ready for some surprises, especially since the CDC keeps trumpeting

flu-death annual numbers as 36,000. Like clockwork. Year in and year

out. 36,000 people in the US die from the flu every year. Killer

disease. Watch out. Get your flu shot. Every autumn. Don't wait. You

might fall over dead in the street.

I've found the preliminary data for 2002. It's at

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr52/nvsr52_13.pdf

<http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr52/nvsr52_13.pdf> . It's in THIS

document that Keller's instructions make sense. Sure enough, on page 16,

Influenza (J10-J11) is listed as 753 [deaths], and Pneumonia (J12-J18)

accounts for the other 65,231 cases.

Here are the total flu deaths from the report. From 1979 to 1995, the

stats were released every two years.

1979: 604

1981: 3,006

1983: 1,431

1985: 2,054

1987: 632

1989: 1,593

1991: 1,137

1993: 1,044

1995: 606

1996: 745

1997: 720

1998: 1,724

1999: 1,665

2000: 1765

2001: 257

Don't believe me?

Here is the page

<http://www.lungusa.org/atf/cf/%7B7A8D42C2-FCCA-4604-8ADE-7F5D5E762256%7\

D/PI1.PDF> [as of October, 2004]:

UPDATE: October 11, 2004, 12:30PM, Pacific Time: Here is another source,

Martin Maloney, who has tracked the CDC page address cited by Keller. He

offers his succinct confirmatory finding:

Perhaps this is what you are looking for. Near the bottom of page 31 of

that PDF document, you will find, under the heading:

Table 10. Number of deaths from 113 selected causes by age: United

States, 2001 - Con.

//snip//

Influenza and pneumonia (J10-J18) ........... 62,034

Influenza (J10-J11) ................................. 257

Pneumonia (J12-J18) ............................... 61,777

These researchers, mind you, were looking at the CDC's own data on

the CDC sites.

Avian2005 , Carol Ann <saffireskyes wrote:

FRIDAY, Dec. 9 (HealthDay News) -- A Harvard grad student is charging

that the U.S. government is hyping the threat of the annual (non-avian)

strains of influenza. Specifically, Peter Doshi says, the estimate of

36,000 flu-related deaths a year by the Centers for Disease Control and

Prevention is unsupported by the available data. And, he suspects, the

numbers may be inflated to help drug companies sell more flu vaccine.

It's a familiar charge -- a quick scan of the Internet turns up several

Web sites claiming much the same thing -- and like many others who make

the claim, Doshi is not a medical expert. He's a student in Harvard's

department of East Asian studies. But he presents his charges with one

notable difference: They appear in the form of an article published in

this week's issue of the prestigious British Medical Journal. In his

one-page article, Doshi lauded the BMJ's " system of open discussion and

open debate through their on-line bulletin board ... a very democratic

form of scientific discourse. " His criticism centers on a 2003 paper in

the Journal of the American Medical Association in which CDC experts

increased their estimate of flu-related deaths from 20,000 a year to

36,000 a year. The reasons the agency used to justify that rise are

dubious at best, Doshi said. For one thing, the National Center for

Health Statistics lists only a few hundred deaths a year as directly

caused by influenza, Doshi said. And the major explanation for the

increased estimate -- the aging of the American population that puts

more people in the highly vulnerable over-65 group -- doesn't hold

water, he maintained. " The 65-plus population grew just 12 percent

between 1990 and 2000, " Doshi wrote. How can the CDC justify an estimate

of 36,000 U.S. deaths a year now when there were just 34,000 deaths

recorded in the 1968-1969 " Hong Kong flu " epidemic? he asked. But

William W. Thompson, the CDC epidemiologist who was the lead author of

the 2003 paper, said Doshi is missing the big picture. The increase in

older Americans has been substantial over the longer run -- up by 48

percent between 1976 and 1999, he said. The number of Americans in the

most-vulnerable 85-and-older age group has doubled during that time,

Thompson said. That increase in the older population explains why more

Americans die in an ordinary flu year nowadays than in the Hong Kong

pandemic, he said. Most of them don't die directly of the flu, Thompson

stressed. Instead, the immediate cause of death is often listed as

pneumonia. " Influenza is rarely reported on the death certificate, even

though influenza is responsible for many deaths, " Thompson said.

" Pneumonia and influenza are grouped together because many pneumonias

result from influenza. Influenza is listed as a secondary cause of

death. " That is not how Doshi sees it. Instead, his article talks of a

" public relations approach " linked to drug company profits. " CDC is

already working in the manufacturers' interest by conducting campaigns

to increase vaccinations, " he wrote. " I don't understand that argument, "

Thompson said. " We have used this method for the past 40 years, and we

continue to use these estimates. We don't need drug manufacturers'

approval or anything like it. " Thompson said the CDC's annual advice

remains the same: " I think that people who are at high risk for flu-

associated complications should get vaccinated. " Of the British Medical

Journal, he said, " It surprises me that they would publish something

like that without giving us a chance to reply. " Will there be a reply?

" We're considering it, " Thompson said. More information

Regards, Carol Ann~

2000-08 Ends the Reign of the Mayberry Machiavellis.

November 3, 2006

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w_different_picture.htm This is the correct URL.

Thursday, November 2, 2006, 6:41:17 PM, you wrote: