Guest guest Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Whole grains and diabetes JoAnn Guest Oct 15, 2006 12:51 PDT --- A spoonful of bran helps the blood sugar go down 2000-08-31 ARTICLE: By Suzanne Rostler NEW YORK, Aug 31 (Reuters Health) - Lowering the risk of diabetes may be as easy as replacing your daily bowl of sweetened cereal with bran flakes, researchers report. According to their study in the September issue of the American Journal of Public Health, whole grain products were protective against diabetes. Women who ate more whole grain products were less likely to be diagnosed with type 2 diabetes than women who consumed mostly refined grains such as pasta or white rice, the study results show. Because whole grain results in lower levels of blood glucose (sugar), the body does not have to produce as much insulin to process the food, researchers explain. They note that refined grains result in more than double the amount of sugar in the blood and cause more insulin to be secreted than whole grain products. What's more, whole grains contain vitamins and nutrients that may be important in modifying the risk of the disease. Type 2 diabetes occurs when the body fails to respond to insulin, the hormone that clears the blood of sugar after a meal and deposits into cells to use for energy. High blood sugar can increase the risk of complications from diabetes such as heart disease, kidney failure and blindness. " Our findings suggest that we should clearly distinguish whole from refined grain products, " according to Dr. Simin Liu of Harvard Medical School in Boston, Massachusetts. He told Reuters Health that consuming as little as two servings a day of whole grain products--equal to a cup of brown rice or two slices of bread--could lower the risk of diabetes by nearly a third. The researchers followed more than 75,000 women between 38 and 63 years old, for 10 years. At the study's onset in 1984, the participants had not been diagnosed with diabetes or heart disease. According food diaries that the women kept, those who ate the most whole grains had a 38% lower risk of being diagnosed with diabetes. Women who ate the least number of servings of whole grain products a day were 31% more likely to be diagnosed with diabetes, results show. Liu said while US dietary guidelines emphasize carbohydrates, as illustrated by the USDA's food guide pyramid, they need to stress the importance of whole grains. " In most developed countries, cereal grains are generally highly processed before they are used, " Liu said. " In the US, only 2% of the 150 pounds of wheat flour consumed per capita in 1997 was whole wheat flour, and the average American gets less than one serving of whole grains a day Since less than 2% of the grains consumed are whole-grains, the other 98% are the real culprits of diabetes. http://www.drsears.com/healthnewsdetailopen.member?healthNewsID=658 -- Eating whole grains may protect against disease 2001-03-13 ARTICLE: By Charnicia E. Huggins NEW YORK, Mar 13 (Reuters Health) - Eating whole grain bread may promote longevity and protect against certain diseases, study findings suggest. Similar findings among Americans have prompted the United States Department of Agriculture to recommend that Americans " eat a variety of grains daily, especially whole grains. " In the study of nearly 34,000 Norwegian adults, those who ate the highest amounts of whole grain had a 23% reduced risk of death from heart disease, and a 21% reduced risk of death from cancer compared with people who ate little or no whole grains. " This study bolsters the whole idea that the whole grain might be good for you, " lead study author Dr. David Jacobs Jr., of the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis, told Reuters Health. Study participants reported eating anywhere from one slice of whole grain bread made with 5% whole grain flour per day, to nine slices made with 60% whole grain flour per day, Jacobs and his colleagues report in the February issue of the European Journal of Clinical Nutrition. " The people who eat (whole grains) tend to have healthier lifestyles in general, so their diet is generally higher in fruits and vegetables and lower in red meat, " Jacobs said. " We find then that part of the benefit of the whole grain is the other things that people do with it, but part of it seems to be related to the whole grain itself. " Consumers interested in increasing their intake of whole grains should note that not all breads labeled " multi-grain " will fit the bill, Jacobs warns. " Those multi-grain breads are notorious for being lots of different kinds of refined grain, but all of them are mostly starch, " he said. There is therefore less nutritional value in these breads than if the grains were non-refined. If you really want to eat a whole grain bread, " rolled " oats, " cracked " wheat, or " steel cut " wheat or oats should be the first ingredient listed on the label, Jacobs said. DR. SEARS' COMMENTS: Using their definition of the ingredients required to be a whole grain bread, then Americans are going to have to work extraordinarily hard to find such bread in our markets. 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Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 I like to get my fiber from inulin powder, plus psillium powder, oat bran, and apple pectin rather than eating whole grains. Grains have carbs. Not as dangerous as refined sugar, but non-fiber carbs in grains need insulin just as much as refined carbs. Intake is slower, but eventually, just as much insulin is needed for processing. Alobar On 10/15/06, JoAnn Guest <angelprincessjo wrote: > Whole grains and diabetes > JoAnn Guest > Oct 15, 2006 12:51 PDT > --- > > A spoonful of bran helps the blood sugar go down > 2000-08-31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 , Alobar <Alobar wrote: > > I like to get my fiber from inulin powder, plus psillium powder, oat > bran, and apple pectin rather than eating whole grains. Grains have carbs. > Alobar Hi Alobar, We are dealing with diabetes on a daily basis in our family as well. You should be able tolerate sprouted whole grains (that is, if what you are consuming is truly a " whole grain " ! The notion that grains are harmful has been fostered by the processed foods industry and usually has reference to the more " refined " ybrids that line our supermarket shelves. It is time that we start to think " out of the box " . This group as a whole does not use allopathic medicines, however they are still being influenced by their mindset! Whenever one truly becomes alternative in their approach to health, they must leave all that behind and focus on the positive ways to improve diet. I know where you are coming from Alobar. The changes are not easy and it is difficult to go against the grain of society which encourages us to eat " traditionally " , however I have no regrets and find that there are just so many things which we can take other people's word for, and must do our own research in order to fully understand the whole concept of grains down through the years. This brings the realization ofhow our food concepts have deteriorated over the years. We sit idly bywhile our foods industry depletes all the vital nutrients from our foods, and then wonder why our health is deteriorating so rapidly. Our systems, and this includes our pancreas, were made to " process " natural substances with enzymes, minerals and vitamins! No one ever heard of diabetes until it was " discovered " in England in the 1900's. Our forefathers were wise enough to partake of their grains in the from of dark crusty breads and wheat when eaten was " non-hybridized " wheat, now known as " KAMUT " . This is the only wheat which I ingest. I find that wheat does not contain all of the amino acids, vitamins and minerals which my body needs in order to function properly, and so I limit my use of wheat and wheat derivatives, although I do use Kamut pasta as an alternative to the devitalized supermarket brands. Many of the organic pastas which you typically find in the natural foods aisle of the grocery stores do not actually have all of the nutrients our body needs and as you say typically use more insulin than should be required for our bodies to process. The more devitalized the foods become from processing the more insulin we need to process it, so it is wise to avoid all of those which are typically labeled as whole grain breads and pasta. The Ezekiel breads contain sprouted whole grains which are easier on the digestion and contain minimal amounts of carbs for diabetics to process. My husband's glucose levels are at optimum levels using only Ezekiel breads in his diet. We do not use the fruit and nut varieties, but use only the breads bearing the original label. This will ensure the benefits from the B vitamins present in untampered whole grains. Whole unprocessed grains contain maximum amounts of essential B vitamins so important for diabetics to process their carbs, so you see the benefits outweigh the risks involved here. In addition, we have all the benefits of sprouted grains without all the work involved in sprouting them! :-) http://www.food-for-life.com Purchase your pasta from Eden Foods and you will see pasta in a different light. Their pastas are cooked " al dente " , do not stick together during preparation and react brilliantly to 'glucose monitors " .<LOL http://www.edenfoods.com Please be forewarned that FIBER supplements WILL deplete your essential minerals, disturbing electrolyte balance! Blessings, JoAnn > > A spoonful of bran helps the blood sugar go down > > 2000-08-31 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 We disagree JoAnn. Diabetes was known and categorized long before the 1900's The Aruvedic texts from ancient India describe it well. As did the ancient Greeks. See diabetes timeline here: http://www.diabetes.ca/Section_About/timeline.asp Diabetes is not a modern disease which manifested from modern diet. Modern refined diet sure makes it more prevelant, but it was known (and treated) several thousand years ago. Frequent urination in diabetics harms mineral balance. So I take lots of minerals. I do not take minerals when I take fiber. Fiber will slow down absorbtion of minerals. Sprouted grains contain B vitamins, but taking B vitamin capsules and tablets seems far more efficient to me. No matter what the good one can get from whole grains (sprouted or otherwise), they still put glucose into the blood. I get some glucose from non-starchy veggies. I do not need more. Alobar On 10/16/06, JoAnn Guest <angelprincessjo wrote: > , Alobar <Alobar > wrote: > > > > I like to get my fiber from inulin powder, plus psillium powder, oat > > bran, and apple pectin rather than eating whole grains. Grains > have carbs. > > Alobar > > Hi Alobar, > We are dealing with diabetes on a daily basis in our family as > well. > You should be able tolerate sprouted whole grains (that is, if what > you are consuming is truly a " whole grain " ! The notion that grains are > harmful has been fostered by the processed foods industry and usually > has reference to the more " refined " ybrids that line our supermarket > shelves. It is time that we start to > think " out of the box " . This group as a whole does not use allopathic > medicines, however they are still being influenced by their mindset! > > Whenever one truly becomes alternative in their approach to health, > they must leave all that behind and focus on the positive ways to > improve diet. I know where you are coming from Alobar. The changes are > not easy and it is difficult to go against the grain of society which > encourages us to eat " traditionally " , however I have no regrets and > find that there are just so many things which we can take other > people's word for, and must do our own research in order to fully > understand the whole concept of grains down through the years. This > brings the realization ofhow our food concepts have deteriorated over > the years. We sit idly bywhile our foods industry depletes all the > vital nutrients from our foods, and then wonder why our health is > deteriorating so rapidly. > > Our systems, and this includes our pancreas, were made to " process " > natural substances with enzymes, minerals and vitamins! No one ever > heard of diabetes until it was " discovered " in England in the 1900's. > Our forefathers were wise enough to partake of their grains in the > from of dark crusty breads and wheat when eaten was " non-hybridized " > wheat, now known as " KAMUT " . This is the only wheat which I ingest. > I find that wheat does not contain all of the amino acids, vitamins > and minerals which my body needs in order to function properly, and so > I limit my use of wheat and wheat derivatives, although I do use Kamut > pasta as an alternative to the devitalized supermarket brands. Many of > the organic pastas which you typically find in the natural foods aisle > of the grocery stores do not actually have all of the nutrients our > body needs and as you say typically use more insulin than should be > required for our bodies to process. The more devitalized the foods > become from processing the more insulin we need to process it, so it > is wise to avoid all of those which are typically labeled as whole > grain breads and pasta. The Ezekiel breads contain sprouted whole > grains which are easier on the digestion and contain minimal amounts > of carbs for diabetics to process. My husband's glucose levels are at > optimum levels using only Ezekiel breads in his diet. We do not use the > fruit and nut varieties, but use only the breads bearing the original > label. This will ensure the benefits from the B vitamins present in > untampered whole grains. Whole unprocessed grains contain maximum > amounts of essential B vitamins so important for diabetics to process > their carbs, so you see the benefits outweigh the risks involved here. > In addition, we have all the benefits of sprouted grains without all > the work involved in sprouting them! :-) > http://www.food-for-life.com > > Purchase your pasta from Eden Foods and you will see pasta in a > different light. Their pastas are cooked " al dente " , do not stick > together during preparation and react brilliantly to 'glucose > monitors " .<LOL > http://www.edenfoods.com > > Please be forewarned that FIBER supplements WILL deplete your > essential minerals, disturbing electrolyte balance! > > Blessings, > JoAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 Alobar, I understand and agree with what you say, unfortunately I have kidney and liver problems that prohibit me from eating any animal protein including dairy and eggs. My body just can't handle them. I rely mostly on soy protein, legumes and a little bit of whole/sprouted grains. I am trying to avoid insulin and any other form of rescription drugs, so I use Fenugreek, Gymenema, artichoke, parsley and Milk Thistle to help with digestion and glucose levels. I do take minerals, but not everyday, they are hard on my kidneys, I also take Colostrum and SOD, as well as a multivitamin (whole food one) and extra B-6 and magnesium. Can you think of anything else I can be doing to help control glucose levels? Any help or suggestions are really appreciated. Nagla , Alobar <Alobar wrote: > > We disagree JoAnn. Diabetes was known and categorized long before > the 1900's The Aruvedic texts from ancient India describe it well. > As did the ancient Greeks. See diabetes timeline here: > http://www.diabetes.ca/Section_About/timeline.asp > Diabetes is not a modern disease which manifested from modern diet. > Modern refined diet sure makes it more prevelant, but it was known > (and treated) several thousand years ago. > > Frequent urination in diabetics harms mineral balance. So I take > lots of minerals. I do not take minerals when I take fiber. Fiber > will slow down absorbtion of minerals. Sprouted grains contain B > vitamins, but taking B vitamin capsules and tablets seems far more > efficient to me. > > No matter what the good one can get from whole grains (sprouted or > otherwise), they still put glucose into the blood. I get some > glucose from non-starchy veggies. I do not need more. > > Alobar > > On 10/16/06, JoAnn Guest <angelprincessjo wrote: > > , Alobar <Alobar@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I like to get my fiber from inulin powder, plus psillium powder, oat > > > bran, and apple pectin rather than eating whole grains. Grains > > have carbs. > > > Alobar > > > > Hi Alobar, > > We are dealing with diabetes on a daily basis in our family as > > well. > > You should be able tolerate sprouted whole grains (that is, if what > > you are consuming is truly a " whole grain " ! The notion that grains are > > harmful has been fostered by the processed foods industry and usually > > has reference to the more " refined " ybrids that line our supermarket > > shelves. It is time that we start to > > think " out of the box " . This group as a whole does not use allopathic > > medicines, however they are still being influenced by their mindset! > > > > Whenever one truly becomes alternative in their approach to health, > > they must leave all that behind and focus on the positive ways to > > improve diet. I know where you are coming from Alobar. The changes are > > not easy and it is difficult to go against the grain of society which > > encourages us to eat " traditionally " , however I have no regrets and > > find that there are just so many things which we can take other > > people's word for, and must do our own research in order to fully > > understand the whole concept of grains down through the years. This > > brings the realization ofhow our food concepts have deteriorated over > > the years. We sit idly bywhile our foods industry depletes all the > > vital nutrients from our foods, and then wonder why our health is > > deteriorating so rapidly. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 The human body requires cholesterol to make hormones, so you are in abind if you can't handle fat ot butter. Insulin resistance at the cellular level is partially a function of what fats make up the cell membranes. Much more omega 3 than 6 has helped my insulin resistance. I made a post the olther day about glyconutrients. I have not tried them yet, but they look to be a useful adjunct to diet. http://www.glisonline.com/saccharides.php. Iodine is needed by pancreas as well as thyroid. Most people are Iodine deficient. The RDA for Iodine is set way too low (similar to vitamin C). Just because there is no massive threyroid deficiency does not mean the other organs have sufficient Iodine. With kidney problems, I do not know what level of vitamin C you can handle. From my reading, most diabetics should be taking at least 10 grams a day. Duncan Crow has written posts here about inulin to promote good bowl flora. I find it works well for me. Alobar On 10/18/06, asccnagla <nagla_alvin wrote: > Alobar, > > I understand and agree with what you say, unfortunately I have kidney > and liver problems that prohibit me from eating any animal protein > including dairy and eggs. My body just can't handle them. I rely > mostly on soy protein, legumes and a little bit of whole/sprouted > grains. > I am trying to avoid insulin and any other form of rescription drugs, > so I use Fenugreek, Gymenema, artichoke, parsley and Milk Thistle > to help with digestion and glucose levels. I do take minerals, but > not everyday, they are hard on my kidneys, I also take Colostrum and > SOD, as well as a multivitamin (whole food one) and extra B-6 and > magnesium. > Can you think of anything else I can be doing to help control glucose > levels? Any help or suggestions are really appreciated. > > Nagla > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 , " asccnagla " <nagla_alvin wrote: > > Alobar, > > I understand and agree with what you say, unfortunately I have kidney > and liver problems that prohibit me from eating any animal protein > including dairy and eggs. My body just can't handle them. I rely > mostly on soy protein, legumes and a little bit of whole/sprouted > grains. > I am trying to avoid insulin and any other form of rescription drugs, > so I use Fenugreek, Gymenema, artichoke, parsley and Milk Thistle > to help with digestion and glucose levels. I do take minerals, but > not everyday, they are hard on my kidneys, I also take Colostrum and > SOD, as well as a multivitamin (whole food one) and extra B-6 and > magnesium. > Can you think of anything else I can be doing to help control glucose > levels? Any help or suggestions are really appreciated. > > Nagla > > , Alobar > <Alobar@> wrote: > > > > We disagree JoAnn. Diabetes was known and categorized long before > > the 1900's The Aruvedic texts from ancient India describe it well. > > As did the ancient Greeks. See diabetes timeline here: > > http://www.diabetes.ca/Section_About/timeline.asp > > Diabetes is not a modern disease which manifested from modern diet. > > Alobar Thanks for the timeline. the information I derived regarding diabetes came from http://www.thedoctorwithin.com It was identified and named by an English physician. DIABETES The ancient Greek physician Hippocrates never even mentions diabetes. (Dufty, p.78) Before sugar came on the scene, diabetes did not even exist. The English physician Thomas Willis first identified and named diabetes in 1674, after England's annual sugar consumption had gone from zero to 16 million lbs. in the previous 200 years. But Willis was unable to say anything bad about sugar since he was King Charles' personal physician, and Charles was making a ton of gold off the sugar trade. (Dufty, p. 75) Very good statistics were kept in Denmark, comparing refined sugar intake with diabetes deaths: year......lbs. consumed per person.....deaths from diabetes/ 100,000 1880...............29.......................... 8 1934...............113......................... 18.9 Regards, JoAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 , Alobar <Alobar wrote: See diabetes timeline here: > http://www.diabetes.ca/Section_About/timeline.asp > Diabetes is not a modern disease which manifested from modern diet. > Modern refined diet sure makes it more prevelant, but it was known > (and treated) several thousand years ago. > Alobar Diabetes Willis, Thomas, 1621–75, English physician and anatomist. He became professor at Oxford Univ. in 1660 and in 1666 established a practice in London. An authority on the brain and the nervous system, he discovered the 11th cranial nerve and a circle of arteries at the base of the brain (the circle of Willis). He was the first to note the presence of sugar in the urine of diabetics. His works, written in Latin, include Of the Anatomy of the Brain, illustrated by Sir Christopher Wren, published in 1664, and translated in The Remaining Medical Works … of Doctor Thomas Willis (1681). http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/people/A0852355.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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