HDL cholesterol level predicts heart events

[Guest guest]

HDL cholesterol level predicts heart events

2006-03-24

 

http://www.drsears.com/healthnewsdetailopen.member?healthNewsID=3743

ARTICLE:

Last Updated: 2006-03-24 12:05:52 -0400 (Reuters Health)

 

By Will Bogs, MD

 

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Levels of HDL cholesterol -- the good

cholesterol -- can be used to predict major adverse coronary events,

independent of other heart and circulatory risk factors, according

to a report published this month.

 

Currently, most guidelines only suggest following the " bad " LDL

cholesterol, Dr. William M. Tierney, an author of the report, told

Reuters Health. " A lipid profile needs to include HDL, and

physicians need to consider this as a separate risk factor and

follow it. "

 

Tierney, from the Indiana University School of Medicine,

Indianapolis, and colleagues assessed the independent effect in

every-day clinical practice of HDL cholesterol and its change over

time on the occurrence of major adverse coronary events among nearly

7,000 adults.

 

HDL cholesterol was significantly lower for patients who

subsequently experienced a cardiac event, such as a heart attack,

compared with those who did not experience a cardiac event, the

authors report, but there was no significant difference in LDL

cholesterol values between those with and those without subsequent

cardiac events.

 

Higher values for total cholesterol and triglycerides were also

associated with subsequent major adverse coronary events.

 

In a " multivariable " analysis, HDL cholesterol was the only lipid

measurement that significantly predicted coronary events, the

researchers note. It was the third strongest predictor behind prior

coronary heart disease and age.

 

Each 10 mg/dL increase in the baseline HDL cholesterol value was

associated with an 11 percent decrease in the risk of an acute

coronary event, the report indicates. Similarly, a positive change

of 10 mg/dL between the two measurement times was associated with a

7 percent lower risk of subsequent major adverse coronary events.

 

" We have repeated this study for the outcome of acute stroke and

found similar findings (HDL seeming to be the more important lipid

fraction in predicting stroke risk), " Tierney reported.

 

SOURCE: American Heart Journal March 2006.

 

 

 

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DR. SEARS' COMMENTS:

 

This is why I like using the TG/HDL ratio as a quick screen to

determine cardiovascular health and the presence of metabolic

syndrome. If the HDL is low, then the TG/HDL ratio will be high.

[Guest guest]

Cholesterol is NOT the Cause of Heart Disease

 

Ron Rosedale, MD

 

By Ron Rosedale, MD

Cholesterol is not the major culprit in heart disease or any disease. If it

becomes oxidized it can irritate/inflame tissues in which it is lodged in, such

as the endothelium (lining of the arteries). This would be one of numerous

causes of chronic inflammation that can injure the lining of arteries. However,

many good fats are easily oxidized such as omega-3 fatty acids, but it does not

mean that you should avoid it at all costs.

Common sense would indicate that we should avoid the oxidation (rancidity) of

cholesterol and fatty acids and not get rid of important life-giving molecules.

Using the same conventional medical thinking that is being used for cholesterol

would lead one to believe that doctors should reduce the risk of Alzheimer's

disease by taking out everybody's brain.

 

http://www.mercola.com/2005/may/28/cholesterol_heart.htm

 

 

 

Take care,

V

 

 

> HDL cholesterol level predicts heart events

> 2006-03-24

 

> http://www.drsears.com/healthnewsdetailopen.member?healthNewsID=3743

> ARTICLE:

> Last Updated: 2006-03-24 12:05:52 -0400 (Reuters Health)

 

> By Will Bogs, MD

 

> NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Levels of HDL cholesterol -- the good

> cholesterol -- can be used to predict major adverse coronary events,

> independent of other heart and circulatory risk factors, according

> to a report published this month.

 

> Currently, most guidelines only suggest following the " bad " LDL

> cholesterol, Dr. William M. Tierney, an author of the report, told

> Reuters Health. " A lipid profile needs to include HDL, and

> physicians need to consider this as a separate risk factor and

> follow it. "

 

> Tierney, from the Indiana University School of Medicine,

> Indianapolis, and colleagues assessed the independent effect in

> every-day clinical practice of HDL cholesterol and its change over

> time on the occurrence of major adverse coronary events among nearly

> 7,000 adults.

 

> HDL cholesterol was significantly lower for patients who

> subsequently experienced a cardiac event, such as a heart attack,

> compared with those who did not experience a cardiac event, the

> authors report, but there was no significant difference in LDL

> cholesterol values between those with and those without subsequent

> cardiac events.

 

> Higher values for total cholesterol and triglycerides were also

> associated with subsequent major adverse coronary events.

 

> In a " multivariable " analysis, HDL cholesterol was the only lipid

> measurement that significantly predicted coronary events, the

> researchers note. It was the third strongest predictor behind prior

> coronary heart disease and age.

 

> Each 10 mg/dL increase in the baseline HDL cholesterol value was

> associated with an 11 percent decrease in the risk of an acute

> coronary event, the report indicates. Similarly, a positive change

> of 10 mg/dL between the two measurement times was associated with a

> 7 percent lower risk of subsequent major adverse coronary events.

 

> " We have repeated this study for the outcome of acute stroke and

> found similar findings (HDL seeming to be the more important lipid

> fraction in predicting stroke risk), " Tierney reported.

 

> SOURCE: American Heart Journal March 2006.

[Guest guest]

We in the medical profession, totally oblivious of the vital roles of

cholesterol in the body, have been duped into thinking that it is this substance

that causes arterial disease of the heart and the brain. The pharmaceutical

industry has capitalized on the slogan of " bad cholesterol " and has produced

toxic-to-the-body chemicals that minimally lower the level of cholesterol in the

body and in the process cause liver damage to thousands of people, some who die

as a result of using the medication.

It is surprising that none of the frequently quoted and media-popularized

doctors has reflected on the fact that cholesterol levels are measured from

blood taken from the veins, yet nowhere in medical literature is there a single

case of cholesterol having caused obstruction of the veins. Venous blood moves

far slower than arterial blood and thus would be more inclined to have

cholesterol deposits if the assumption of " bad cholesterol " were accurate. This

mistake by us in the medical community, and its capitalization by the

pharmaceutical industry, has caused an ongoing fraud against society.

http://www.watercure.com/Topics4.htm

 

 

 

> HDL cholesterol level predicts heart events

> 2006-03-24

 

> http://www.drsears.com/healthnewsdetailopen.member?healthNewsID=3743

> ARTICLE:

> Last Updated: 2006-03-24 12:05:52 -0400 (Reuters Health)

 

> By Will Bogs, MD

 

> NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Levels of HDL cholesterol -- the good

> cholesterol -- can be used to predict major adverse coronary events,

> independent of other heart and circulatory risk factors, according

> to a report published this month.

 

> Currently, most guidelines only suggest following the " bad " LDL

> cholesterol, Dr. William M. Tierney, an author of the report, told

> Reuters Health. " A lipid profile needs to include HDL, and

> physicians need to consider this as a separate risk factor and

> follow it. "

 

> Tierney, from the Indiana University School of Medicine,

> Indianapolis, and colleagues assessed the independent effect in

> every-day clinical practice of HDL cholesterol and its change over

> time on the occurrence of major adverse coronary events among nearly

> 7,000 adults.

 

> HDL cholesterol was significantly lower for patients who

> subsequently experienced a cardiac event, such as a heart attack,

> compared with those who did not experience a cardiac event, the

> authors report, but there was no significant difference in LDL

> cholesterol values between those with and those without subsequent

> cardiac events.

 

> Higher values for total cholesterol and triglycerides were also

> associated with subsequent major adverse coronary events.

 

> In a " multivariable " analysis, HDL cholesterol was the only lipid

> measurement that significantly predicted coronary events, the

> researchers note. It was the third strongest predictor behind prior

> coronary heart disease and age.

 

> Each 10 mg/dL increase in the baseline HDL cholesterol value was

> associated with an 11 percent decrease in the risk of an acute

> coronary event, the report indicates. Similarly, a positive change

> of 10 mg/dL between the two measurement times was associated with a

> 7 percent lower risk of subsequent major adverse coronary events.

 

> " We have repeated this study for the outcome of acute stroke and

> found similar findings (HDL seeming to be the more important lipid

> fraction in predicting stroke risk), " Tierney reported.

 

> SOURCE: American Heart Journal March 2006.

[Guest guest]

, V <vzon17

wrote:

>

 

This piece of information does not appear to be relevant to the

original article that I sent to this group.

 

If you are commenting on the original, you will notice that it is

only dealing with HDL cholesterol which is obviously the more

important when evaluating cholesterol levels in the body.

 

If your HDL is up to par you don't have to worry about LDL or bad

cholesterol, so it is important to focus on ways to elevate your

good cholesterol levels.

 

If everyone focused on the positive ways to deal with this, we

wouldn't have so much confusion surrounding this issue. Of course,

cholesterol is not the only factor in heart disease, anyone who has

thoroughly researched it is convinced that it is not the only factor

we have to deal with. Triglycerides are also important and so is C-

reactive protein and other test readings.

 

We have to deal with cholesterol levels because the medical

community tests cholesterol levels. What do we tell those who come

seeking ways to lower their cholesterol? That is doesn't exist? This

is PURE NONSENSE!! Whenever we focus on the HDL or good cholesterol

rather than the negative aspects of it all, we will be able to

counteract the effects of recurrant negative cholesterol readings

discovered in frequent doctor's visits. This is a false mantra and

very confusing to any who are not familiar with alternative medicine.

 

Many of the diseases which we are dealing with on this list, if not

all of them are just terms which the medical community have dreamed

up in order to profit from the sale of pharmaceuticals!

 

The alternative approach typically is not the same and deals with

building up the immune system, adrenals and glands, rather than

focusing on the problems involved. Whenever one starts healing with

alternatives it is better to focus on this rather than focus on

these smaller issues, for the simple reason that when it gets

to the point of cholesterol build up in your arteries, you typically

have so many other abnormalities that you need to be involved in

taking herbs, vitamins and minerals which strengthen your entire

system rather than just focusing on the negative aspects of a few

cholesterol deposits. Whenever you see this type of buildup, it is

merely a warning or wake up call to start looking at the big picture

and making

a few changes, because obviously you are doing something very wrong!

 

Best Regards,

JoAnn

 

 

 

> > HDL cholesterol level predicts heart events

> > 2006-03-24

>

> > http://www.drsears.com/healthnewsdetailopen.member?

healthNewsID=3743

> > ARTICLE:

> > Last Updated: 2006-03-24 12:05:52 -0400 (Reuters Health)

>

> > By Will Bogs, MD

>

> > NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Levels of HDL cholesterol -- the

good

> > cholesterol -- can be used to predict major adverse coronary

events,

> > independent of other heart and circulatory risk factors,

according

> > to a report published this month.

>

> > Currently, most guidelines only suggest following the " bad " LDL

> > cholesterol, Dr. William M. Tierney, an author of the report,

told

> > Reuters Health. " A lipid profile needs to include HDL, and

> > physicians need to consider this as a separate risk factor and

> > follow it. "

>

> > Tierney, from the Indiana University School of Medicine,

> > Indianapolis, and colleagues assessed the independent effect in

> > every-day clinical practice of HDL cholesterol and its change

over

> > time on the occurrence of major adverse coronary events among

nearly

> > 7,000 adults.

>

> > HDL cholesterol was significantly lower for patients who

> > subsequently experienced a cardiac event, such as a heart

attack,

> > compared with those who did not experience a cardiac event, the

> > authors report, but there was no significant difference in LDL

> > cholesterol values between those with and those without

subsequent

> > cardiac events.

>

> > Higher values for total cholesterol and triglycerides were also

> > associated with subsequent major adverse coronary events.

>

> > In a " multivariable " analysis, HDL cholesterol was the only

lipid

> > measurement that significantly predicted coronary events, the

> > researchers note. It was the third strongest predictor behind

prior

> > coronary heart disease and age.

>

> > Each 10 mg/dL increase in the baseline HDL cholesterol value was

> > associated with an 11 percent decrease in the risk of an acute

> > coronary event, the report indicates. Similarly, a positive

change

> > of 10 mg/dL between the two measurement times was associated

with a

> > 7 percent lower risk of subsequent major adverse coronary

events.

>

> > " We have repeated this study for the outcome of acute stroke and

> > found similar findings (HDL seeming to be the more important

lipid

> > fraction in predicting stroke risk), " Tierney reported.

>

> > SOURCE: American Heart Journal March 2006.

>

[Guest guest]

JoAnn, I do agree with your response and I would add that oxidation of LDL

regardless of how low it is, constitutes a risk. One needs to take curcumin and

green tea extracts to maintain whatever values of LDL in a reduced state

incapable of plaque-formation.

regards

Frank ND.

 

-

JoAnn Guest

Monday, October 16, 2006 9:15 AM

Re: HDL cholesterol level predicts heart

events

 

 

, V <vzon17

wrote:

>

 

This piece of information does not appear to be relevant to the

original article that I sent to this group.

 

If you are commenting on the original, you will notice that it is

only dealing with HDL cholesterol which is obviously the more

important when evaluating cholesterol levels in the body.

 

If your HDL is up to par you don't have to worry about LDL or bad

cholesterol, so it is important to focus on ways to elevate your

good cholesterol levels.

 

If everyone focused on the positive ways to deal with this, we

wouldn't have so much confusion surrounding this issue. Of course,

cholesterol is not the only factor in heart disease, anyone who has

thoroughly researched it is convinced that it is not the only factor

we have to deal with. Triglycerides are also important and so is C-

reactive protein and other test readings.

 

We have to deal with cholesterol levels because the medical

community tests cholesterol levels. What do we tell those who come

seeking ways to lower their cholesterol? That is doesn't exist? This

is PURE NONSENSE!! Whenever we focus on the HDL or good cholesterol

rather than the negative aspects of it all, we will be able to

counteract the effects of recurrant negative cholesterol readings

discovered in frequent doctor's visits. This is a false mantra and

very confusing to any who are not familiar with alternative medicine.

 

Many of the diseases which we are dealing with on this list, if not

all of them are just terms which the medical community have dreamed

up in order to profit from the sale of pharmaceuticals!

 

The alternative approach typically is not the same and deals with

building up the immune system, adrenals and glands, rather than

focusing on the problems involved. Whenever one starts healing with

alternatives it is better to focus on this rather than focus on

these smaller issues, for the simple reason that when it gets

to the point of cholesterol build up in your arteries, you typically

have so many other abnormalities that you need to be involved in

taking herbs, vitamins and minerals which strengthen your entire

system rather than just focusing on the negative aspects of a few

cholesterol deposits. Whenever you see this type of buildup, it is

merely a warning or wake up call to start looking at the big picture

and making

a few changes, because obviously you are doing something very wrong!

 

Best Regards,

JoAnn

 

> > HDL cholesterol level predicts heart events

> > 2006-03-24

>

> > http://www.drsears.com/healthnewsdetailopen.member?

healthNewsID=3743

> > ARTICLE:

> > Last Updated: 2006-03-24 12:05:52 -0400 (Reuters Health)

>

> > By Will Bogs, MD

>

> > NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Levels of HDL cholesterol -- the

good

> > cholesterol -- can be used to predict major adverse coronary

events,

> > independent of other heart and circulatory risk factors,

according

> > to a report published this month.

>

> > Currently, most guidelines only suggest following the " bad " LDL

> > cholesterol, Dr. William M. Tierney, an author of the report,

told

> > Reuters Health. " A lipid profile needs to include HDL, and

> > physicians need to consider this as a separate risk factor and

> > follow it. "

>

[Guest guest]

, <fcunsrial

wrote:

>

> JoAnn, I do agree with your response and I would add that

oxidation of LDL regardless of how low it is, constitutes a risk.

One needs to take curcumin and green tea extracts to maintain

whatever values of LDL in a reduced state incapable of plaque-

formation.

> regards

> Frank ND.

>

 

Hi Frank,

Thanks. The risks are compicated by the oxidation process which

unfortunately, is always present in our bodies. However, don't you

agree that our risks can be greatly minimized by the degree of

supplementation which we are willing to submit to. Of course we need

to experiment with various anti-oxidants in order to rate their

efficacy for our own specific affliction while also attempting to

elevate the more important " HDL " . There are numerous combinations on

the market, all of which claim to be superior. Obviously, this is an

area where the consumer needs to beware, considering the prevalance

of these advertising claims. It appears to me that we could derive

many of the same spices from middle eastern and eastern cuisines

containing spices which would impart many of the same health

benefits as these products. Perhaps for the average consumer it

would be a bit more econamical to obtain some of these nutrients in

foods rather than invest entirely in costly supplements which may

vary in their bioavailability to us as an individual. Many of us on

this list have invested in supplements which have not agreed with

them. It is difficult to obtain nutrient dense foods in our part of

the globe, I agree, however I believe that with an entirely organic

diet we may be able to compensate somewhat for this loss.

What is your opinion on the availability of N-acetylcysteine as an

antioxidant as compared to supplemental Glutathione?-

 

Regards,

JoAnn

[Guest guest]

I was just reading an article on the site of Jonathan Campbell this

morning, that has some relevant information on the cholesterol

dilemma.

 

http://www.cqs.com/lipitor.htm

 

A quote from the article:

 

The problem is this: cholesterol is essential in your body for many

functions. It forms part of what is called the cell membrane - the

semi-permeable outer layer of every cell in your body. It also helps

transport the major components of the cell membrane, called

" phospholipids, " that are made from essential fatty acids (EFAs).

Without enough cholesterol we would die, because our tissues are

constantly being repaired and replaced with new cells.

 

Our body produces several thousand milligrams of cholesterol per day

to carry out these essential functions, and each day the excess of

cholesterol is supposed to be naturally recycled. If your body

doesn't have enough new cholesterol each day, you cannot repair and

replace your cell membranes and they will eventually degenerate.

 

The continual recycling of cholesterol happens naturally when you

have sufficient ascorbate, another name for vitamin C. Excess

cholesterol is naturally converted to bile acid and then excreted.

But if you don't consume enough vitamin C (about 2000-3000 milligrams

per day for an adult), cholesterol builds up in your bloodstream.

 

Kind regards

Sepp

 

 

--- in reference to ---

 

1. Re: HDL cholesterol level predicts heart events

Posted by: " JoAnn Guest " angelprincessjo mrsjoguest

Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:56 pm (PDT)

 

, <fcunsrial

wrote:

>

> JoAnn, I do agree with your response and I would add that

oxidation of LDL regardless of how low it is, constitutes a risk.

One needs to take curcumin and green tea extracts to maintain

whatever values of LDL in a reduced state incapable of plaque-

formation.

> regards

> Frank ND.

>

 

Hi Frank,

Thanks. The risks are compicated by the oxidation process which

unfortunately, is always present in our bodies. However, don't you

agree that our risks can be greatly minimized by the degree of

supplementation which we are willing to submit to. Of course we need

to experiment with various anti-oxidants in order to rate their

efficacy for our own specific affliction while also attempting to

elevate the more important " HDL " . There are numerous combinations on

the market, all of which claim to be superior. Obviously, this is an

area where the consumer needs to beware, considering the prevalance

of these advertising claims. It appears to me that we could derive

many of the same spices from middle eastern and eastern cuisines

containing spices which would impart many of the same health

benefits as these products. Perhaps for the average consumer it

would be a bit more econamical to obtain some of these nutrients in

foods rather than invest entirely in costly supplements which may

vary in their bioavailability to us as an individual. Many of us on

this list have invested in supplements which have not agreed with

them. It is difficult to obtain nutrient dense foods in our part of

the globe, I agree, however I believe that with an entirely organic

diet we may be able to compensate somewhat for this loss.

What is your opinion on the availability of N-acetylcysteine as an

antioxidant as compared to supplemental Glutathione?-

 

Regards,

JoAnn

 

 

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