Metformin, Bitter Melom for insulin resistance

[Guest guest]

Hi everyone

I have just joined and am looking for information from anyone who is

familar with either of these products.

I have symptomsof insulin resistance.

thanks.

 

Mo

[Guest guest]

I was on Metformin for 3 days, then I started throwing up... I

switched to fenugreek and an herbal mix called Glucose Balance...it

contains Gymnema, American ginseng, bitter melon, fenugreek, green

tea, milk thistle (good for the liver) and yacon... I take the mix

twice a day before meals and the fenugreek whenever I eat or drink

anything that might be 'bad'. I have been very happy with the

results...(I was down-graded from full type II diabetes, to borderline)

for more on bitter melon see (you can also get info on most of the

other herbs here)

http://www.herbs2000.com/herbs/herbs_bitter_melon.htm

 

Cynthia

 

, " Mo Osborne "

<hepaction wrote:

>

> Hi everyone

> I have just joined and am looking for information from anyone who is

> familar with either of these products.

> I have symptomsof insulin resistance.

> thanks.

>

> Mo

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 09/10/2006 21:01:43 GMT Daylight Time, Alobar

writes:

 

Bitter mellon is not absorbed well thru the gut. There is a

sub-lingual version of it called Gourdin which is available on line.

I have been using Gourdin for about 5 years. I have not taken

diabetic meds for about 5 years. Diet is crucial.

 

 

Hi there

Thanks for answering my plea for help.

I am not actually diabetic but want to make sure I don't ever get to that

point if I can.

I did not know this about the absorption issue. Yikes! I suppose that means

the sub-lingual one is more expensive? In am in England and I wonder if I can

get it here.

I am not at the position where I want to give up all grains really. Do you

think that is absolutely essential in my situation?

I don't buy bread and have rye cracker with boiled for breakfast and very

occasional wholewheat pasta and brown rice.

 

Mo

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Bitter mellon is not absorbed well thru the gut. There is a

sub-lingual version of it called Gourdin which is available on line.

I have been using Gourdin for about 5 years. I have not taken

diabetic meds for about 5 years. Diet is crucial. The diet the docs

want one to take is loaded with carbs which makes it impossible to

maintain control without their meds. I strongly feel they know this.

No bread or grains, whether they are high or low glycemic index.

Beware of seasonings containing sugars. No starchy veggies like

beans, rice, corn. No fruit except for low car fruit. Avocados are

fine. Beware damaged fats. the docs push margarine, which is crap.

Coconut oil and butter are far bettrer because crap fats worsten

insulin resistance. Get plenty of omega 3 oils, plenty of vitamin D

(I take a tabelspoon of cod liver oil daily), take sub-lingual B-12

daily, and take C to bowel tolerance, many times a day. Beta

Carotene and nicain are not good for siabetics. Vitamin A is very

good. I take 25,000 IU, twice a day. Folic acid is also helpful.

I take 800 micrograms, twice a day. Although Niacin is not good for

diabetics, Niacinamide can be taken in quantity. I take 1,000 mg

before and after each meal, plus at bedtime.

 

I feel Gourdin is good, but I do better when I add other diabetic

supplements to it. The latest supplements I have added are Fenugreek

and Gymnema Sylvestre. Acetyl L-Carnitine, Alpha Lipoic Acid, and

Benfotiame all help greatly.

 

I recerntly had to cut back on supplements because cash is tight and I

am running out. When I was taking full supplements I was able to

maintain 110 or better fasting blood glucose readings. Now it is is

up to 131. So I sure feel the supplements work.

 

Alobar

 

On 10/9/06, Mo Osborne <hepaction wrote:

> Hi everyone

> I have just joined and am looking for information from anyone who is

> familar with either of these products.

> I have symptomsof insulin resistance.

> thanks.

>

> Mo

>

>

[Guest guest]

If you are not diabetic, taking gourdin once a day helps to revitalize

cells of pancreas. For non-diabetics, moderate conplex carbs are

usually recommended. Diabetics have to be more stringent in diet.

 

Alobar

 

On 10/9/06, hepaction <hepaction wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 09/10/2006 21:01:43 GMT Daylight Time, Alobar

> writes:

>

> Bitter mellon is not absorbed well thru the gut. There is a

> sub-lingual version of it called Gourdin which is available on line.

> I have been using Gourdin for about 5 years. I have not taken

> diabetic meds for about 5 years. Diet is crucial.

>

>

> Hi there

> Thanks for answering my plea for help.

> I am not actually diabetic but want to make sure I don't ever get to that

> point if I can.

> I did not know this about the absorption issue. Yikes! I suppose that means

> the sub-lingual one is more expensive? In am in England and I wonder if I can

> get it here.

> I am not at the position where I want to give up all grains really. Do you

> think that is absolutely essential in my situation?

> I don't buy bread and have rye cracker with boiled for breakfast and very

> occasional wholewheat pasta and brown rice.

>

> Mo

[Guest guest]

Alobar,

 

I have type 11 diabetes, I am not taking any meds for it, I do take

Fenugreek, Gymenema, Milk Thistle, Colostrum and SOD. I am having a

difficult time with diet though, I am vegan, so I eat no animal

protein, it is hard to avoid carbs, I try to stick to low glycemic

carbs, but even then I think I get too much. Any suggestions on diet

would be very helpful.

Thanks

Nagla

 

, Alobar

<Alobar wrote:

>

> If you are not diabetic, taking gourdin once a day helps to

revitalize

> cells of pancreas. For non-diabetics, moderate conplex carbs are

> usually recommended. Diabetics have to be more stringent in diet.

>

> Alobar

[Guest guest]

I would never recommend anyone be a vegetarian. Especially if one is

diabetic. Low glycemic and high glycemic carbs all eventually become

glucose in the blood. If one has cells which are insulin resistant,

the blood glucose levels climb. I eat no grains normally. I have

beans or rice several times a year, but not frequently. Insulin

resistant seems to be related to what fats are available to make cell

membranes. Several years ago I started taking 1 tablepoon of Cod

liver oil and 1 tablepoon of flaxseed oil per day. I can now handle

some carbs in my diet, but not edvery day or even every other day.

No proof here, but it seems to me that Omega 3 oils in the diet have

helped my cells be less insulin resistant.

 

Alobar

 

On 10/10/06, asccnagla <nagla_alvin wrote:

> Alobar,

>

> I have type 11 diabetes, I am not taking any meds for it, I do take

> Fenugreek, Gymenema, Milk Thistle, Colostrum and SOD. I am having a

> difficult time with diet though, I am vegan, so I eat no animal

> protein, it is hard to avoid carbs, I try to stick to low glycemic

> carbs, but even then I think I get too much. Any suggestions on diet

> would be very helpful.

> Thanks

> Nagla

>