Guest guest Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 Tyrosine by Ray Sahelian, M.D. (learn about natural medicine) Posted by: " JoAnn Guest " angelprincessjo angelprincessjo Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:40 pm (PST) Tyrosine by Ray Sahelian, M.D. (learn about natural medicine) Tyrosine information by Ray Sahelian, M.D Tyrosine, also called L Tyrosine, is not an essential amino acid since tyrosine can be made from the amino acid phenylalanine. Tyrosine is converted into dopamine and norepinephrine. Supplementation with both tyrosine and phenylalanine leads to alertness and arousal. Phenylalanine and tyrosine are sometimes prescribed as antidepressants, usually in combination with other nutrients and herbs that have mood elevating properties. Some doctors also recommend these amino acids for appetite control. Phenylalanine may trigger the release of an appetite-suppressin g hormone in the gut called cholecystokinin. Most individuals who take either of these amino acids notice improved alertness, arousal, and mood, and slight loss in appetite. I have a few patients who occasionally take a small amount of these amino acids, such as 100 to 250 mg, in the morning as a substitute for coffee. Tyrosine side effects can occur on high doses. See a few paragraphs below for a full list of potential side effects. Phenylalanine --> Phenylpyruvic acid â L Tyrosine â L-Dopa â Dopamine â Norepinephrine â Epinephrine N Acetyl Tyrosine 350 is an acetylated derivative of the essential amino acid L-tyrosine. Acetylation enhances the stability and metabolic effect of certain amino acids. N-Acetyl Tyrosine supports brain function by improving the synthesis of the catecholamines norepinephrine and dopamine (neurotransmitters) . • Memory and Mood • Mental clarity • Concentration • Alertness & Focus Why buy all the individual herbs and nutrients separately -- at great expense -- when you can buy this excellent combination? The herbs in Mind Power Rx include: Ashwagandha, Bacopa, Fo-Ti, Ginkgo biloba, Ginseng, Mucuna pruriens, and Reishi. The nutrients and vitamins in Mind Power Rx include Acetyl-l-carnitine, Carnitine, Carnosine, Choline, DMAE, Inositol, Methylcobalamin, Pantothenic acid, Trimethylglycine, Tyrosine, and Vinpocetine. Click Tyrosine above in blue for more information L Tyrosine Side effects Overstimulation, restlessness, anxiety, insomnia, heart palpitations or arrhythmia are side effects that occur from high doses of tyrosine. These can occur in sensitive individuals in as low a dose as 200 mg. L Tyrosine Summary Tyrosine is an amino acid that can be used in the mornings to enhance alertness and focus. Too high a dose can cause over- stimulation. irritability, restlessness, anxiety, and heart rhythm irregularities. Some users find that it enhances their mood. N- Acetyl-Tyrosine is a a good alternative to tyrosine. Less of a dose of acetyl-tyrosine is required to achieve the same effects as tyrosine without the acetylation. A dose of 100 to 200 mg of acetyl l tyrosine is sufficient for most people. You have the option to open a capsule of l tyrosine and take a portion. L Tyrosine Research Update Lack of behavioural effects after acute tyrosine depletion in healthy volunteers. J Psychopharmacol. 2005 Jan;19(1):5- 11. Acute dietary l tyrosine depletion has previously been shown to reduce dopamine neurotransmission in both animals and humans. In this study, we investigated the effects of brain dopamine depletion, through acute l-tyrosine and phenylalanine depletion, on plasma prolactin, mood and neuropsychological function in 12 normal subjects. In a randomized, double-blind, cross-over design, subjects received two amino-acid drinks separated by a week, a nutritionally balanced mixture (Bal) and on the other occasion a tyrosine and phenylalanine deficient mixture. The plasma ratio of tyrosine and phenylalanine to the other large neutral amino acids decreased significantly on the tyrosine and phenylalanine deficient mixture and there was an increase in plasma prolactin concentration relative to the balanced drink in the seven subjects for whom results were available for both occasions. Acute tyrosine depletion did not alter mood as measured by visual analogue scale ratings, and measures of memory, attention and behavioural inhibition were also unaffected. Our results are consistent with acute dietary tyrosine depletion causing a reduction in brain dopamine neurotransmission but raise questions about how robust or consistent the effects are on psychological function. L Tyrosine Emails Q. If the amino acid L-Tyrosine converts to L-Dopa, then would taking a L-Tyrosine supplement produce the same effect or result as taking mucuna pruriens? A. Not really. Mucuna pruriens has many other compounds in it besides L dopa. Q. How much more potent is N-acetyl-Tyrosine compared to the same amount of L-tyrosine? I have severe problems with anhedonia and bought N-acetyl to try and raise dopamine levels. A. It's hard to say. I have not seen studies comparing the two. In my limited experience, I did find acetyl tyrosine to be more potent, but I can't quantify it easily. You may wish to try them yourself with the same dosage on different occasions to see how they compare. Q. I am considering taking N-Acetyl Tyrosine (mornings 200mg) and Tryptophan (evenings 500mg) for treatment of mild depression and insomnia. I was wondering whether SAM-e can be taken in addition to the N-Acetyl Tyrosine? A. Thank you for your email, but we are not in a position to say whether this particular combination is appropriate for you. It may be for some, while others may get serious side effects. Much depends on dosage, individual tolerance, food intake, other medicines, age, smoking, exercise patterns, sleep patterns, etc. Q. I went to a boarding school for three years, where I averaged about 5 hrs of sleep every night. On top of this I was subjected to the physical stresses of mandatory sports, and ever present cold. I think the result is that I became a walking zombie. My awareness, and attention drastically suffered, my emotions somewhat froze, and I developed obsessive compulsive disorder. After taking a sufficiently large dose of mdma, I noticed that I became aware of the world in a way similar to how I had experienced it before boarding school. I concluded that I needed to redevelop my serotonin system, so I started taking 100mg 5htp on a daily basis. I noticed that my mood was better, especially when I took little breaks from it (I was pleased to learn that you recommend this practice). I also decided to experiment with my dopamine system, so I tried n-acetyl-l tyrosine. Immediately, I noticed an improved ability to perceive color. After a lot of trial and error, I found it best to take the n- acetyl-l tyrosine in two daily doses of 75mg. These two supplements have greatly helped, in the depression/anxiety, with which I was recently diagnosed. A. Thanks for emailing your interesting story. Q. What's the difference between tyrosine and L tyrosine A. Both tyrosine and L tyrosine are the same thing. Q. I continue to learn from your book, Mind Boosters. It is the one source that I continually return to when exploring nutritional approaches. My question concerns Tyrosine. I have recently begun taking Acetyl L-Tyrosine, one 300 mg. tablet in the morning. It seems to increase energy, and even give a little boost in the area of verbal fluency (an area that I am very interested in improving). I seem to " feel like talking " more than I normally would, and the words seem to come a little more easily. However...I' m having a lot of trouble sleeping, even with this small (I think) dosage, I seem to have a " wired " feeling. I would hate to give up the benefits of tyrosine. A. 300 mg of acetyl-tyrosine is actually, in my opinion, a high dose. Acetyl-tyrosine is probably much more active that tyrosine by itself. The alertness it produces does cause insomnia. A lower dosage may reduce the side effects. Q. I have read a lot on your web site about the cautions of 5-HTP and would like to ask about whether there are any risks of using L Tyrosine in the long-term. For me, this supplement really helps with my mood but I would like to know whether the amino acid is safe for daily consumption at a high dose (12 grams). I do not experiences any side-effects from this amino acid and have not read any reports of toxicity ever occurring from its use. A. Twelve grams of tyrosine is a very high dose. Side effects could include irritability, anxiety, heart irregularities and perhaps over the long run could have a pro oxidant effect on certain brain cells, but this is just my hypothesis. Tyrosine seems to be more effective in those whose depression is due to low dopamine levels. It's probably best to not use one particular nutrient to treat depression for prolonged periods but to alternate different ones such as St. John's wort, SAMe, 5-HTP, etc. tyrosine kinase inhibitor effects side tyrosine l tyrosine side effects receptor tyrosine kinase benefit l tyrosine. Q. Why is it so hard to get l-tyrosine, phenylalanine, and others in smaller doses? Everyone talks about the 500 mgs doses, I personally do much better with the low doses. Is it possible that lot of people would do better with the lower doses, as you talk about in your Mind Boosters book? A. It seems that the public thinks higher doses are better, and manufacturers respond to this by selling higher dose products, worried that other companies may grab a larger share of the market by selling higher dosage nutrients. Since each person is unique in their requirement, it is okay to open capsules of tyrosine or other nutrients and herbs and take a portion. tyrosine l tyrosine kinase. Q. Having had Fibromyalgia for almost 20 years, I had already investigated 5-HTP, but had seen a couple of articles warning that it contracts the arteries and should never be given to anyone with high cardiac risk factors or arterial spasm. I have a high risk ratio, high blood pressure and have had arterial spasms in cold weather, before I started taking high dose Magnesium... .that stopped the spasms and also stopped the PVC's and chest pain from my regurgitating MVP. My former holistic doctor insisted I needed to take a supplement called _______, which contained both 5HTP and L tyrosine in large amounts. Tyrosine raises blood pressure. He dismissed the risks for both 5HTP and tyrosine as not true. He believed Fibromyalgia to be a deficiency of neurotransmitters, which I regard as merely one of the many symptoms of the illness. I decided to trust him....after all, he was the doctor, not me. Within 3 weeks I was having paroxysmal atrial fibrillation, PVC's, and PSVT attacks, and had to be placed on a cardiac event monitor (which is how the PSVTs were diagnosed). I could not even walk across a room without help, and when going outside into cold air, I was brought to my knees gasping from spasms. Every time I fell asleep, I would wake up repeatedly with PSVT's accompanied by horrifying dysautonomic symptoms. I stopped the product and slowly recovered over a period of about 2 months, except that PSVTs have become a permanent part of my illness now, and I must take Verapamil ER daily to keep them manageable. I no longer dare to drive a car or even walk our dogs because of these attacks. Ablation is not an option due to the dysautonomia, and the 3 leaking valves I have, as well as my allergy to all of the useful antibiotics for preventing BE in MVP patients, and an inability to take any pain med but Tylenol, due to the large amt. of Clonidine I must take for my high blood pressure. A. This product has high amounts of 5-HTP and Tyrosine: 1. 5HTP 300 mg 2. Tyrosine 3,000 mg We are not mentioning the name of the product but that is not important. The important message is too high doses of certain supplements can cause heart problems, particularly tyrosine. Q. I have had low grade depression in the past and found Tyrosine to be highly effective for me. Now with a 5 month old and the winter season, I am feeling a bit low again and wondering if it is safe to take Tyrosine while I am nursing. My son's health is ultimately more important, but I would like to improve my mood as well, hopefully without prescription anti-depressants. A. Since we have not come across research regarding the use of tyrosine during nursing, it is difficult to make a recommendation. Q. What is a tyrosine kinase inhibitor? A. Tyrosine kinase inhibitor is a drug used in certain cancers such as leukemia. Drugs that target tyrosine kinases belong to a new class of anti cancer agagents, directed at cellular signalling mechanisms. Receptor tyrosine kinases and intracellular tyrosine kinases regulate cellular events that may be involved in tumor development, such as proliferation, survival, and angiogenesis. Some of these agents are established in clinical practice, in particular the small-molecular tyrosine kinase inhibitor imatinib in the treatment of chronic myeloid leukemia and gastrointestinal stromal tumors and the antibody trastuzumab in the treatment of breast cancer. Q. I get a rapid heart beat when I take tyrosine. Is this a tyrosine side effect? A. Yes, rapid heart beat, even heart palpitations, can occur as a side effect of tyrosine use. Always start with a low dose, such as 200 mg or less, even if it means opening a tyrosine capsule and taking a portion of it. Q. I have recently started researching DLPA and tyrosine and am wondering if there is any real reason to take BOTH, or if it is generally an either/or thing. I currently take tyrosine and iodine, along with high pot. liquid multi vit/min., essential fatty acids etc. I have a thyroid problem and my naturopath has me on tyrosine and iodine, but because I am pretty overweight I was looking into DLPA and am confused by the frequent references to take DLPA and tyrosine TOGETHER, when DLPA will just be turned into tyrosine anyway. Is there another use for DLPA, or is it always turned into tyrosine? And if it is always turned into tyrosine, why bother with both? And if only one should be taken at a time, which is preferred? A. DLPA does convert into tyrosine, but it can be metabolized in a different direction, too, including phenylpurivic acid and other metabolites. I personally don't see the need to take both tyrosine and phenylalanine. As to which one to choose, the best way is through trial and error since there are blood studies or other tests that can be done to find out which supplement will provide better results. Q. I have been taking L Tyrosine for about 7 years to help with Central Serous Retinopathy. However, over the past two year I have suffered terrible insomnia and never made a connection. Thanks to looking at your site and the great information I see the connection. Do you think that the tyrosine 500mg dosage that I have been taking for 7 years is a little to high? A. We can't say if the tyrosine is the cause of your insomnia, but tyrosine has the potential to cause sleep problems. Q. Last year after taking prozac for many years I decided to add L- tyrosine to my daily supplements. I added about 900 mg. a day. Soon after that I developed what's been diagnosed as " tics " . I'm wondering if the addition of L-tyrosine could have had anything to do with this? A. It is possible, but we can't say for sure. Q. When I take L-Tyrosine I seem to have intestinal problems, such as gas and lose bowels. Is this a common side effect with L Tyrosine supplement? A. Tyrosine has many side effects, the most common being irritability and rapid heart beat, but gastrointestinal symptoms can also occur. A lower dose tyrosine may not cause these side effects. Q. Why is it recommended that Tyrosine be taken at least 30 minutes before a meal or 2 hours after a meal? A. Tyrosine cannot easily cross the blood brain barrier if there are many other competing amino acids in the blood stream which occur after eating a meal. Therefore, on an empty stomach, tyrosine can be absorbed well and cross the blood brain barrier. However, tyrosine side effects are higher when this approach is taken, therefore a lower dosage would minimize this. Hence, to notice the effects from a tyrosine supplement, one can take a higher amount of tyrosine with food, or a smaller amount on an empty stomach. Q. Even a small portion of beef contains more tyrosine than most supplements. Why shouldn't I just eat a burger? A. When individual amino acids are taken by themselves, they have a different affect on the body and mind as opposed to taken in combination as a supplement or in food. A dose of tyrosine, for instance, can cause alertness, whereas if the same amount is ingested in beef, it would NOT cause alertness since it would be mixed with many other competing amino acids. 2. (T4 is tyrosine plus 4 iodine molecules, while T3 is tyrosine plus Posted by: " JoAnn Guest " angelprincessjo angelprincessjo Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:57 pm (PST) (T4 is tyrosine plus 4 iodine molecules, while T3 is tyrosine plus three iodine molecules.) If the hypothalamus fails to secrete TRH, the pituitary's fail-safe system takes over. The pituitary checks up on the hypothalamus by sampling the amount of T3 passing through its own circulation as it converts inactive T4 into T3. If its T3 levels drop, the pituitary gland secretes TSH, which triggers the thyroid to produce and release T4, thus quickly rectifying the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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