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COMPLETE PROTEIN

http://www.juiceguy.com/complete.shtml

 

A complete protein is a single food that contains all eight of the

essential amino acids.

 

The myth is that we have to consume complete foods; that we can't

take " incomplete " foods and be healthy.

 

Now due to constant advertising, everybody knows that only meats are

complete foods, and thus the question that everyone knows the answer

to: " What's for dinner? "

 

Well....it turns out that there are real foods (not as well known)

that contain all eight of the essential amino acids, such as:

 

Fruit: Bananas, Dates, tomatoes,

Nuts: Almonds, Coconuts, Filberts, Sunflower seeds, Walnuts, Brazil

nuts, Pecans,

Vegetables: Alfalfa Sprouts, Bean Sprouts, Carrots, Eggplants, Sweet

Potatoes, Broccoli, Cabbages, Okra & Squash

 

In addition, the body has what is termed an amino acid pool in the

blood and the liver that stores excess amino acids, both essential

and nonessential, for use when needed.

 

Thus you do not need to eat a complete food, nor a combination of

foods at every meal.

 

The Journal of Clinical Nutrition and the Medical Tribunal show that

by age 65 meat eaters have DOUBLE the bone loss and deterioration of

vegetarians.

 

There is a definite correlation between high protein consumption and

osteoporosis. Many studies are showing that after you eat a high

protein meal, you urinate and your calcium loss is awesome. In other

words:

 

IF YOU EAT A HIGH MEAT-BASED DIET, YOU ARE PEEING YOUR BONES DOWN

THE TOILET !

 

When anything happens in this materialistic world of ours, it

generally happens because of the $. Figure out who benefits from an

event, and you understand the why behind: " XXXX builds strong bones

and teeth " , and similar advertising.

 

Speaking of advertising, See MEAT!

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thanks for this valuable information JoAnn - I have been seriously considering

vegetarianism but was concerned about the protein issue.

Much appreciated,

Gloria (Switzerland)

 

JoAnn Guest <angelprincessjo wrote:

COMPLETE PROTEIN

http://www.juiceguy.com/complete.shtml

 

A complete protein is a single food that contains all eight of the

essential amino acids.

 

The myth is that we have to consume complete foods; that we can't

take " incomplete " foods and be healthy.

 

Now due to constant advertising, everybody knows that only meats are

complete foods, and thus the question that everyone knows the answer

to: " What's for dinner? "

 

Well....it turns out that there are real foods (not as well known)

that contain all eight of the essential amino acids, such as:

 

Fruit: Bananas, Dates, tomatoes,

Nuts: Almonds, Coconuts, Filberts, Sunflower seeds, Walnuts, Brazil

nuts, Pecans,

Vegetables: Alfalfa Sprouts, Bean Sprouts, Carrots, Eggplants, Sweet

Potatoes, Broccoli, Cabbages, Okra & Squash

 

In addition, the body has what is termed an amino acid pool in the

blood and the liver that stores excess amino acids, both essential

and nonessential, for use when needed.

 

Thus you do not need to eat a complete food, nor a combination of

foods at every meal.

 

The Journal of Clinical Nutrition and the Medical Tribunal show that

by age 65 meat eaters have DOUBLE the bone loss and deterioration of

vegetarians.

 

There is a definite correlation between high protein consumption and

osteoporosis. Many studies are showing that after you eat a high

protein meal, you urinate and your calcium loss is awesome. In other

words:

 

IF YOU EAT A HIGH MEAT-BASED DIET, YOU ARE PEEING YOUR BONES DOWN

THE TOILET !

 

When anything happens in this materialistic world of ours, it

generally happens because of the $. Figure out who benefits from an

event, and you understand the why behind: " XXXX builds strong bones

and teeth " , and similar advertising.

 

Speaking of advertising, See MEAT!

_________________

JoAnn Guest

mrsjoguest

www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/Genes

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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, Gloria De Paola

<gloriadepaola wrote:

>

> thanks for this valuable information JoAnn - I have been seriously

considering vegetarianism but was concerned about the protein

issue.

> Much appreciated,

> Gloria (Switzerland)

>

> JoAnn Guest <angelprincessjo wrote:

> COMPLETE PROTEIN

> http://www.juiceguy.com/complete.shtml

>

> A complete protein is a single food that contains all eight of the

> essential amino acids.

>

> The myth is that we have to consume complete foods; that we can't

> take " incomplete " foods and be healthy.

>

> Now due to constant advertising, everybody knows that only meats

are

> complete foods, and thus the question that everyone knows the

answer

> to: " What's for dinner? "

>

> Well....it turns out that there are real foods (not as well known)

> that contain all eight of the essential amino acids, such as:

>

> Fruit: Bananas, Dates, tomatoes,

> Nuts: Almonds, Coconuts, Filberts, Sunflower seeds, Walnuts, Brazil

> nuts, Pecans,

> Vegetables: Alfalfa Sprouts, Bean Sprouts, Carrots, Eggplants,

Sweet

> Potatoes, Broccoli, Cabbages, Okra & Squash

>

> In addition, the body has what is termed an amino acid pool in the

> blood and the liver that stores excess amino acids, both essential

> and nonessential, for use when needed.

>

> Thus you do not need to eat a complete food, nor a combination of

> foods at every meal.

>

> The Journal of Clinical Nutrition and the Medical Tribunal show

that

> by age 65 meat eaters have DOUBLE the bone loss and deterioration

of

> vegetarians.

>

> There is a definite correlation between high protein consumption

and

> osteoporosis. Many studies are showing that after you eat a high

> protein meal, you urinate and your calcium loss is awesome. In

other

> words:

>

> IF YOU EAT A HIGH MEAT-BASED DIET, YOU ARE PEEING YOUR BONES DOWN

> THE TOILET !

>

> When anything happens in this materialistic world of ours, it

> generally happens because of the $. Figure out who benefits from an

> event, and you understand the why behind: " XXXX builds strong bones

> and teeth " , and similar advertising.

>

 

 

Hi Gloria,

You are entirely welcome. Actually perhaps you should thank the

moderator as well. He posted it. :-) This man's site has little

known but crucial information which I thought might be useful to

someone. It seems that so much of that which we have at our disposal

now is misguiding. It is refreshing to realize that there are other

options than what the media chooses to put on our menu...at least

those of us who choose to educate ourselves further can adjust our

lifestyle accordingly. Switzerland....hmm...Thanks for reading my

post. Greetings! we are from Michigan...assuming you know where that

is.<LOL

 

Blessings to you and yours!

JoAnn

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I'd like to focus on the juice guy's comment:

 

> There is a definite correlation between high protein consumption and

> osteoporosis. Many studies are showing that after you eat a high

> protein meal, you urinate and your calcium loss is awesome. In other

> words:

>

> IF YOU EAT A HIGH MEAT-BASED DIET, YOU ARE PEEING YOUR BONES DOWN THE

> TOILET !

 

I guess scare tactics are OK if that's what it takes to sway the

meat-and-potatoes crowd over to a more balanced diet, but again

that comparison comes up between a high meat diet and whatever

they're selling.

 

How about comparing their offering to a balanced diet? Few

salesmen do.

 

Also, I think it's a contrivance to say all the amino acids are

in whatever juice they're selling. Sure, they might be in there,

but the amount, the ratio, are what we're interested in; trace

amounts will leave us in deficiency.

 

I understand that vegetarians are usually deficient in three

amino acids. How much juice plus would you have to drink to get a

gram of cysteine, which is only conditionally essential but like

arginine we need kinda large amounts for health and to not become

emaciated. These are available in animal products in large

amounts; if you don't like meat, use undenatured whey. Whey

contains a lot because growth and immune system robustness is

impotant to suvivial of the species, and whey is a complete

protein that does not result in much calcium loss. Sure, the

juice is great, but balance is better ;)

 

Duncan Crow

 

>

> Posted by: " JoAnn Guest " angelprincessjo mrsjoguest

> Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:16 pm (PDT)

>

> COMPLETE PROTEIN

> http://www.juiceguy.com/complete.shtml

>

> A complete protein is a single food that contains all eight of the

> essential amino acids.

>

> The myth is that we have to consume complete foods; that we can't take

> " incomplete " foods and be healthy.

>

> Now due to constant advertising, everybody knows that only meats are

> complete foods, and thus the question that everyone knows the answer

> to: " What's for dinner? "

>

> Well....it turns out that there are real foods (not as well known)

> that contain all eight of the essential amino acids, such as:

>

> Fruit: Bananas, Dates, tomatoes,

> Nuts: Almonds, Coconuts, Filberts, Sunflower seeds, Walnuts, Brazil

> nuts, Pecans, Vegetables: Alfalfa Sprouts, Bean Sprouts, Carrots,

> Eggplants, Sweet Potatoes, Broccoli, Cabbages, Okra & Squash

>

> In addition, the body has what is termed an amino acid pool in the

> blood and the liver that stores excess amino acids, both essential and

> nonessential, for use when needed.

>

> Thus you do not need to eat a complete food, nor a combination of

> foods at every meal.

>

> The Journal of Clinical Nutrition and the Medical Tribunal show that

> by age 65 meat eaters have DOUBLE the bone loss and deterioration of

> vegetarians.

>

> There is a definite correlation between high protein consumption and

> osteoporosis. Many studies are showing that after you eat a high

> protein meal, you urinate and your calcium loss is awesome. In other

> words:

>

> IF YOU EAT A HIGH MEAT-BASED DIET, YOU ARE PEEING YOUR BONES DOWN THE

> TOILET !

>

> When anything happens in this materialistic world of ours, it

> generally happens because of the $. Figure out who benefits from an

> event, and you understand the why behind: " XXXX builds strong bones

> and teeth " , and similar advertising.

>

> Speaking of advertising, See MEAT!

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Let's put it this way: Humans have survived through many ice ages and

periods of drought, etc. when vegetation has been very scarce... how did

they do this? They became hunter/gatherers... eating mostly meat and its

fat for energy. We are obviously very flexibly designed to thrive in a

varied, omnivorous diet of " natural " foods that includes animal flesh...

the real questions is whether the meat is tainted with modern chemicals

or naturally raised by gracing in uncontaminated fields... but then

again this is also true of vegetables! So let's not get fanatic here and

go from one extreme to the other... I agree with you that balance is the

key... in all things... including life styles!

 

Domingo

 

Duncan Crow wrote:

>

> I'd like to focus on the juice guy's comment:

>

> > There is a definite correlation between high protein consumption and

> > osteoporosis. Many studies are showing that after you eat a high

> > protein meal, you urinate and your calcium loss is awesome. In other

> > words:

> >

> > IF YOU EAT A HIGH MEAT-BASED DIET, YOU ARE PEEING YOUR BONES DOWN THE

> > TOILET !

>

> I guess scare tactics are OK if that's what it takes to sway the

> meat-and-potatoes crowd over to a more balanced diet, but again

> that comparison comes up between a high meat diet and whatever

> they're selling.

>

> How about comparing their offering to a balanced diet? Few

> salesmen do.

>

> Also, I think it's a contrivance to say all the amino acids are

> in whatever juice they're selling. Sure, they might be in there,

> but the amount, the ratio, are what we're interested in; trace

> amounts will leave us in deficiency.

>

> I understand that vegetarians are usually deficient in three

> amino acids. How much juice plus would you have to drink to get a

> gram of cysteine, which is only conditionally essential but like

> arginine we need kinda large amounts for health and to not become

> emaciated. These are available in animal products in large

> amounts; if you don't like meat, use undenatured whey. Whey

> contains a lot because growth and immune system robustness is

> impotant to suvivial of the species, and whey is a complete

> protein that does not result in much calcium loss. Sure, the

> juice is great, but balance is better ;)

>

> Duncan Crow

>

> >

> > Posted by: " JoAnn Guest " angelprincessjo@

> <angelprincessjo%40> mrsjoguest

> > Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:16 pm (PDT)

> >

> > COMPLETE PROTEIN

> > http://www.juiceguy .com/complete. shtml

> <http://www.juiceguy.com/complete.shtml>

> >

> > A complete protein is a single food that contains all eight of the

> > essential amino acids.

> >

> > The myth is that we have to consume complete foods; that we can't take

> > " incomplete " foods and be healthy.

> >

> > Now due to constant advertising, everybody knows that only meats are

> > complete foods, and thus the question that everyone knows the answer

> > to: " What's for dinner? "

> >

> > Well....it turns out that there are real foods (not as well known)

> > that contain all eight of the essential amino acids, such as:

> >

> > Fruit: Bananas, Dates, tomatoes,

> > Nuts: Almonds, Coconuts, Filberts, Sunflower seeds, Walnuts, Brazil

> > nuts, Pecans, Vegetables: Alfalfa Sprouts, Bean Sprouts, Carrots,

> > Eggplants, Sweet Potatoes, Broccoli, Cabbages, Okra & Squash

> >

> > In addition, the body has what is termed an amino acid pool in the

> > blood and the liver that stores excess amino acids, both essential and

> > nonessential, for use when needed.

> >

> > Thus you do not need to eat a complete food, nor a combination of

> > foods at every meal.

> >

> > The Journal of Clinical Nutrition and the Medical Tribunal show that

> > by age 65 meat eaters have DOUBLE the bone loss and deterioration of

> > vegetarians.

> >

> > There is a definite correlation between high protein consumption and

> > osteoporosis. Many studies are showing that after you eat a high

> > protein meal, you urinate and your calcium loss is awesome. In other

> > words:

> >

> > IF YOU EAT A HIGH MEAT-BASED DIET, YOU ARE PEEING YOUR BONES DOWN THE

> > TOILET !

> >

> > When anything happens in this materialistic world of ours, it

> > generally happens because of the $. Figure out who benefits from an

> > event, and you understand the why behind: " XXXX builds strong bones

> > and teeth " , and similar advertising.

> >

> > Speaking of advertising, See MEAT!

>

>

 

 

 

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I ditto Duncan Crow.

I quote Linus Pauling from a book where he says that

vegetarians are generally deficient in lycine and

metheonine. I will add B12 too. Vegetarians will need

expert like knowledge of nutrition to get all.

Ratan.

 

--- Duncan Crow <duncancrow wrote:

 

> I'd like to focus on the juice guy's comment:

>

> > There is a definite correlation between high

> protein consumption and

> > osteoporosis. Many studies are showing that after

> you eat a high

> > protein meal, you urinate and your calcium loss is

> awesome. In other

> > words:

> >

> > IF YOU EAT A HIGH MEAT-BASED DIET, YOU ARE PEEING

> YOUR BONES DOWN THE

> > TOILET !

>

> I guess scare tactics are OK if that's what it takes

> to sway the

> meat-and-potatoes crowd over to a more balanced

> diet, but again

> that comparison comes up between a high meat diet

> and whatever

> they're selling.

>

> How about comparing their offering to a balanced

> diet? Few

> salesmen do.

>

> Also, I think it's a contrivance to say all the

> amino acids are

> in whatever juice they're selling. Sure, they might

> be in there,

> but the amount, the ratio, are what we're interested

> in; trace

> amounts will leave us in deficiency.

>

> I understand that vegetarians are usually deficient

> in three

> amino acids. How much juice plus would you have to

> drink to get a

> gram of cysteine, which is only conditionally

> essential but like

> arginine we need kinda large amounts for health and

> to not become

> emaciated. These are available in animal products in

> large

> amounts; if you don't like meat, use undenatured

> whey. Whey

> contains a lot because growth and immune system

> robustness is

> impotant to suvivial of the species, and whey is a

> complete

> protein that does not result in much calcium loss.

> Sure, the

> juice is great, but balance is better ;)

>

> Duncan Crow

>

> >

> > Posted by: " JoAnn Guest "

> angelprincessjo mrsjoguest

> > Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:16 pm (PDT)

> >

> > COMPLETE PROTEIN

> > http://www.juiceguy.com/complete.shtml

> >

> > A complete protein is a single food that contains

> all eight of the

> > essential amino acids.

> >

> > The myth is that we have to consume complete

> foods; that we can't take

> > " incomplete " foods and be healthy.

> >

> > Now due to constant advertising, everybody knows

> that only meats are

> > complete foods, and thus the question that

> everyone knows the answer

> > to: " What's for dinner? "

> >

> > Well....it turns out that there are real foods

> (not as well known)

> > that contain all eight of the essential amino

> acids, such as:

> >

> > Fruit: Bananas, Dates, tomatoes,

> > Nuts: Almonds, Coconuts, Filberts, Sunflower

> seeds, Walnuts, Brazil

> > nuts, Pecans, Vegetables: Alfalfa Sprouts, Bean

> Sprouts, Carrots,

> > Eggplants, Sweet Potatoes, Broccoli, Cabbages,

> Okra & Squash

> >

> > In addition, the body has what is termed an amino

> acid pool in the

> > blood and the liver that stores excess amino

> acids, both essential and

> > nonessential, for use when needed.

> >

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I had forgotten my source for vegan-induced essential amino acid

deficiency; thank you, Linus Pauling may have been the one in

addition to the " The myths of vegetarianism " on this Mercola page:

http://www.mercola.com/2000/apr/2/vegetarian_myths.htm

 

The following study interests me; if anyone buys it please let me

know:

 

Subacute combined degeneration of the spinal cord in vegetarians:

vegetarian's myelopathy.

(Intern Med. 2006) PMID: 16778348

 

I also want " Health risks for children raised on vegan or vegetarian

diets. "

(Pediatr Crit Care Med. 2006) PMID: 16531955

 

The following abstract has a few points, notably low creatine, that

may indicate why vegetarian athletes are usually losers:

 

Vegetarian diets : nutritional considerations for athletes.

(Sports Med. 2006) PMID: 16573356

 

Low creatine, low ATP produces muscle wasting too.

 

This study speaks to low B12:

 

German vegan study: diet, life-style factors, and cardiovascular risk

profile.

" CONCLUSION: Although TC and LDL concentrations were favorable, low

HDL and elevated homocysteine and Lp(a) concentrations were

unfavorable. Overall, these results confirm the notion that a vegan

diet is deficient in vitamin B(12), which may have an unfavorable

effect on CHD risk. "

(Ann Nutr Metab. 2005) PMID: 16219987

 

Duncan

 

> , psych doc

<psych_58 wrote:

>

> I ditto Duncan Crow.

> I quote Linus Pauling from a book where he says that

> vegetarians are generally deficient in lycine and

> metheonine. I will add B12 too. Vegetarians will need

> expert like knowledge of nutrition to get all.

> Ratan.

>

> --- Duncan Crow <duncancrow wrote:

>

> > I'd like to focus on the juice guy's comment:

> >

> > > There is a definite correlation between high

> > protein consumption and

> > > osteoporosis. Many studies are showing that after

> > you eat a high

> > > protein meal, you urinate and your calcium loss is

> > awesome. In other

> > > words:

> > >

> > > IF YOU EAT A HIGH MEAT-BASED DIET, YOU ARE PEEING

> > YOUR BONES DOWN THE

> > > TOILET !

> >

> > I guess scare tactics are OK if that's what it takes

> > to sway the

> > meat-and-potatoes crowd over to a more balanced

> > diet, but again

> > that comparison comes up between a high meat diet

> > and whatever

> > they're selling.

> >

> > How about comparing their offering to a balanced

> > diet? Few

> > salesmen do.

> >

> > Also, I think it's a contrivance to say all the

> > amino acids are

> > in whatever juice they're selling. Sure, they might

> > be in there,

> > but the amount, the ratio, are what we're interested

> > in; trace

> > amounts will leave us in deficiency.

> >

> > I understand that vegetarians are usually deficient

> > in three

> > amino acids. How much juice plus would you have to

> > drink to get a

> > gram of cysteine, which is only conditionally

> > essential but like

> > arginine we need kinda large amounts for health and

> > to not become

> > emaciated. These are available in animal products in

> > large

> > amounts; if you don't like meat, use undenatured

> > whey. Whey

> > contains a lot because growth and immune system

> > robustness is

> > impotant to suvivial of the species, and whey is a

> > complete

> > protein that does not result in much calcium loss.

> > Sure, the

> > juice is great, but balance is better ;)

> >

> > Duncan Crow

> >

> > >

> > > Posted by: " JoAnn Guest "

> > angelprincessjo mrsjoguest

> > > Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:16 pm (PDT)

> > >

> > > COMPLETE PROTEIN

> > > http://www.juiceguy.com/complete.shtml

> > >

> > > A complete protein is a single food that contains

> > all eight of the

> > > essential amino acids.

> > >

> > > The myth is that we have to consume complete

> > foods; that we can't take

> > > " incomplete " foods and be healthy.

> > >

> > > Now due to constant advertising, everybody knows

> > that only meats are

> > > complete foods, and thus the question that

> > everyone knows the answer

> > > to: " What's for dinner? "

> > >

> > > Well....it turns out that there are real foods

> > (not as well known)

> > > that contain all eight of the essential amino

> > acids, such as:

> > >

> > > Fruit: Bananas, Dates, tomatoes,

> > > Nuts: Almonds, Coconuts, Filberts, Sunflower

> > seeds, Walnuts, Brazil

> > > nuts, Pecans, Vegetables: Alfalfa Sprouts, Bean

> > Sprouts, Carrots,

> > > Eggplants, Sweet Potatoes, Broccoli, Cabbages,

> > Okra & Squash

> > >

> > > In addition, the body has what is termed an amino

> > acid pool in the

> > > blood and the liver that stores excess amino

> > acids, both essential and

> > > nonessential, for use when needed.

> > >

>

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