deoderant woes..trying to go natural!

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i've been using suave for years with great results. atleast on the

surface. not sure what's happening underneath. i've been reading

more and more about the possible risk of breast cancer and

alzheimers disease due to ingredients in deoderant and

antipersperant.

 

a few weeks back i went through several 'natural' deoderants, of

which NOTHING worked like suave or sure or what have you at CVS,

with aluminum and other unfortunate ingredients in them. and when i

say the 'natural' brands i tried don't work, i mean very soon after

application, i feel sticky under my arms and i stink! i even tried

rubbing coconut oil under my arms as i read the antibacterial

properties in it really help.

 

a part of it could be it was a very muggy hot summer here in dc..and

another more important thing could be that my body may be detoxifyng

as i continue changing my lifestyle towards natural. maybe my BO

will be different a few months from now. Maybe it will actually

become fragrant some day, sigh.. as i improve on the unhealthy air,

water, food, and drugs i've had for so long. but seriously, am i

this dependant on the deoderants carried at CVS or Walgreens?

 

i SO wish there was some 'natural' brand deoderant out there that

actually works. till then, i'm stuck with suave, or taking multiple

showers a day. i already fret upon taking a shower each morning

considering DC water is flouridated. ughh! (oh, and then there's the

chlorine, but i got a chlorine filter so just need to install).

 

has anyone here overcome deoderant woes? if so, please tell me what

finally worked for you! and i'm curious what people on this forum

think about the deoderant/antipersperant ingredients issue.

 

thanks!

 

vandana in dc.

[Guest guest]

I have not used any deodorant since 1964. When I first stopped, my

armpits stank. I had lots of very greasy perspiration. Over a few

months, my persiration problems went away. I suspect taking saunas

or steam baths may speed the process of re-balancing one's armpits

after stopping all deodorants (including soaps with deodorant).

 

Eating right, drinking plenty of water, not smoking, and allowing

one's armpits to sweat is healthy. Humans are supposed to smell like

we do. Bad smelling sweat is a sign that something is amiss. Sweat

eventually ferments & gets real stinky, but if one does not use any

deodorant soaps or body lotions which mess with natural body pH, sweat

does not ferment in a day or longer, even in hot weather. Humans are

not supposed to smell like flowers or other plants.

 

Use of deodorants and anti-perspirants can prevent the body from

excreting wastes. This can cause problems. Likewise there are the

dangers inherant in the chemicals used in deodorants.

 

I looked at some of the so-called natural products. One was this

rock one rubbed into one's armpits. The rock is Alum. Alumiminum

is linked to Alzheimer's disease. Many health conscious people

refuse to use Aluminum pots for fear of the Aluminum. And yet,

health food stores sell Alum to rub into one's armpits. Not me. I

sure would never use the crap.

 

Alobar

 

 

On 9/4/06, vapurohit <vandana.purohit wrote:

> i've been using suave for years with great results. atleast on the

> surface. not sure what's happening underneath. i've been reading

> more and more about the possible risk of breast cancer and

> alzheimers disease due to ingredients in deoderant and

> antipersperant.

>

> a few weeks back i went through several 'natural' deoderants, of

> which NOTHING worked like suave or sure or what have you at CVS,

> with aluminum and other unfortunate ingredients in them. and when i

> say the 'natural' brands i tried don't work, i mean very soon after

> application, i feel sticky under my arms and i stink! i even tried

> rubbing coconut oil under my arms as i read the antibacterial

> properties in it really help.

>

> a part of it could be it was a very muggy hot summer here in dc..and

> another more important thing could be that my body may be detoxifyng

> as i continue changing my lifestyle towards natural. maybe my BO

> will be different a few months from now. Maybe it will actually

> become fragrant some day, sigh.. as i improve on the unhealthy air,

> water, food, and drugs i've had for so long. but seriously, am i

> this dependant on the deoderants carried at CVS or Walgreens?

>

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vapurohit

Monday, September 04, 2006 2:12 PM

deoderant woes..trying to go natural!

 

 

i've been using suave for years with great results. atleast on the

surface. not sure what's happening underneath. i've been reading

more and more about the possible risk of breast cancer and

alzheimers disease due to ingredients in deoderant and

antipersperant.

 

a few weeks back i went through several 'natural' deoderants, of

which NOTHING worked like suave or sure or what have you at CVS,

with aluminum and other unfortunate ingredients in them. and when i

say the 'natural' brands i tried don't work, i mean very soon after

application, i feel sticky under my arms and i stink! i even tried

rubbing coconut oil under my arms as i read the antibacterial

properties in it really help.

 

a part of it could be it was a very muggy hot summer here in dc..and

another more important thing could be that my body may be detoxifyng

as i continue changing my lifestyle towards natural. maybe my BO

will be different a few months from now. Maybe it will actually

become fragrant some day, sigh.. as i improve on the unhealthy air,

water, food, and drugs i've had for so long. but seriously, am i

this dependant on the deoderants carried at CVS or Walgreens?

 

i SO wish there was some 'natural' brand deoderant out there that

actually works. till then, i'm stuck with suave, or taking multiple

showers a day. i already fret upon taking a shower each morning

considering DC water is flouridated. ughh! (oh, and then there's the

chlorine, but i got a chlorine filter so just need to install).

 

has anyone here overcome deoderant woes? if so, please tell me what

finally worked for you! and i'm curious what people on this forum

think about the deoderant/antipersperant ingredients issue.

 

thanks!

 

vandana in dc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Vandana, I use vinegar as a deodorant. Works fine, and no, you don't smell

like salad. Meg

[Guest guest]

I found nothing.

There was some sort of mineral thing from Israel that was supposed to

be a natural deodorant, but I broke out in the worse rash from it.

I had a friend who was allergic to some deodorant ingrediant and she

could never find an effective replacement.

I think an 'antiperspirant' contains the aluminum and blocks up the

pores.

The 'deodorant' part, I believe, is just a scent that covers up your

odor.

There is a genetic component to this, as well.

My mom would rarely sweat under her arms and wondered what the fuss

was about. She only used antiperspirants in the dead of summer.

My dad, on the other hand, would sweat profusely and would wash and

apply the stuff sometimes twice a day.

 

, " vapurohit "

<vandana.purohit wrote:

>

> i've been using suave for years with great results. atleast on the

> surface. not sure what's happening underneath. i've been reading

> more and more about the possible risk of breast cancer and

> alzheimers disease due to ingredients in deoderant and

> antipersperant.

>

> a few weeks back i went through several 'natural' deoderants, of

> which NOTHING worked like suave or sure or what have you at CVS,

> with aluminum and other unfortunate ingredients in them. and when

i

> say the 'natural' brands i tried don't work, i mean very soon after

> application, i feel sticky under my arms and i stink! i even

tried

> rubbing coconut oil under my arms as i read the antibacterial

> properties in it really help.

>

> a part of it could be it was a very muggy hot summer here in

dc..and

> another more important thing could be that my body may be

detoxifyng

> as i continue changing my lifestyle towards natural. maybe my BO

> will be different a few months from now. Maybe it will actually

> become fragrant some day, sigh.. as i improve on the unhealthy air,

> water, food, and drugs i've had for so long. but seriously, am i

> this dependant on the deoderants carried at CVS or Walgreens?

>

> i SO wish there was some 'natural' brand deoderant out there that

> actually works. till then, i'm stuck with suave, or taking

multiple

> showers a day. i already fret upon taking a shower each morning

> considering DC water is flouridated. ughh! (oh, and then there's

the

> chlorine, but i got a chlorine filter so just need to install).

>

> has anyone here overcome deoderant woes? if so, please tell me what

> finally worked for you! and i'm curious what people on this forum

> think about the deoderant/antipersperant ingredients issue.

>

> thanks!

>

> vandana in dc.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

I started using natural deoderants about two years ago for the same reason as

you stated (breast cancer and alzheimer's). At this time I also realized our

bodies are suppose to sweat at times, so why should I stop it with an

anti-perspirant and I promptly switched to deoderants. I also live near D.C. and

I understand about the weather. I have gone thru a few natural brands. I used

Kiss My Face roll on deoderant for a long time even though it was wet and cold

and I sweated and became stinky at times. I then switched to Thai stone

deoderant which you have to wet and then apply. That was ok and the results were

the same as the roll on. I then started using both of them together...apply the

roll on and then apply the stone (don't wet the stone with water). The results

are great! I sweat some but I don't stink! I would rather put up with being wet

and cold under my arms for a little while and a little sweaty than put

deoderant/anti-perspirant which can be harmful.

 

Esther

 

vapurohit <vandana.purohit wrote:

i've been using suave for years with great results. atleast on the

surface. not sure what's happening underneath. i've been reading

more and more about the possible risk of breast cancer and

alzheimers disease due to ingredients in deoderant and

antipersperant.

 

a few weeks back i went through several 'natural' deoderants, of

which NOTHING worked like suave or sure or what have you at CVS,

with aluminum and other unfortunate ingredients in them. and when i

say the 'natural' brands i tried don't work, i mean very soon after

application, i feel sticky under my arms and i stink! i even tried

rubbing coconut oil under my arms as i read the antibacterial

properties in it really help.

 

a part of it could be it was a very muggy hot summer here in dc..and

another more important thing could be that my body may be detoxifyng

as i continue changing my lifestyle towards natural. maybe my BO

will be different a few months from now. Maybe it will actually

become fragrant some day, sigh.. as i improve on the unhealthy air,

water, food, and drugs i've had for so long. but seriously, am i

this dependant on the deoderants carried at CVS or Walgreens?

 

i SO wish there was some 'natural' brand deoderant out there that

actually works. till then, i'm stuck with suave, or taking multiple

showers a day. i already fret upon taking a shower each morning

considering DC water is flouridated. ughh! (oh, and then there's the

chlorine, but i got a chlorine filter so just need to install).

 

has anyone here overcome deoderant woes? if so, please tell me what

finally worked for you! and i'm curious what people on this forum

think about the deoderant/antipersperant ingredients issue.

 

thanks!

 

vandana in dc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Well there you go! Vinegar would have to be the most IMPORTANT item to have

in your cupboard!! It is superb to use for just about ANYTHING you can

think of and I already use it for all my housecleaning and even when I bath

my dog, and he looks fantastic afterwards!

 

huggs

Lyndall

 

 

-

" Meg " <maelsana

 

Wednesday, September 06, 2006 2:44 PM

Re: deoderant woes..trying to go

natural!

 

 

Vandana, I use vinegar as a deodorant. Works fine, and no, you don't smell

like salad. Meg

[Guest guest]

Esther and Alobar,

 

a few people recommended the stone to me. I got the same brand,

Thai, and it works really well. i've been using it for 3 days, and

so far so good. some perspiration, but not stink. i guess different

deoderants will work for different people due to each individual's

body chemistery.

 

Alobar mentioned these stones have alum in them. i too had noticed

this and go worried, so i looked into it further. below is a

description i pasted for the thai stone. based on this..the alum

should not be a problem. Alobar, what do you think?...

 

***

Thai stone is a pure product made without the addition of chemicals,

fragrances, oils or alcohol. Potassium alum is a colorless substance

that forms octahedral or cubic crystals.Bauxite is the ore from

which alum is drawn. It is formed by the rapid weathering of granite

rocks in warm, humid climates and can be purified & converted

directly into alum. Potassium alum is soluble in 7 times its weight

of water at room temperature & is very soluable in hot water.

 

When crystalline potassium alum is heated, some of the water of

hydration becomes chemically seperated & the partly dehydrated salt

dissolves in this water. Potassium alum molecules have a negative

ionic charge, making it unable to pass through the cell wall. THEY

ARE NOT ABSORBED!

 

This is why Thai deodorants are SAFE to use and WILL NOT Cause high

levels of aluminum in your system. ALUM & ALUMINUM are 2 different

substances with distinct chemical signatures.

 

 

 

 

, Esther Donovan

<e_donovan1 wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> I started using natural deoderants about two years ago for the

same reason as you stated (breast cancer and alzheimer's).

[Guest guest]

I would not take the word of people who say that Alum is safe,

particulalrly if those people are selling the deodorant stone.

Alzheimer's disease is a very big risk and the benefits of deodorants

are small. People who sell Aluminum pots say their pots are safe.

I don't use Aluminum pots. I'd rather err on the safe side than

become a drooling old man who has no idea where is is and needs a 24

hour nurse.

 

Alobar

 

On 9/9/06, vapurohit <vandana.purohit wrote:

> Esther and Alobar,

>

> a few people recommended the stone to me. I got the same brand,

> Thai, and it works really well. i've been using it for 3 days, and

> so far so good. some perspiration, but not stink. i guess different

> deoderants will work for different people due to each individual's

> body chemistery.

>

> Alobar mentioned these stones have alum in them. i too had noticed

> this and go worried, so i looked into it further. below is a

> description i pasted for the thai stone. based on this..the alum

> should not be a problem. Alobar, what do you think?...

>

> ***

> Thai stone is a pure product made without the addition of chemicals,

> fragrances, oils or alcohol. Potassium alum is a colorless substance

> that forms octahedral or cubic crystals.Bauxite is the ore from

> which alum is drawn. It is formed by the rapid weathering of granite

> rocks in warm, humid climates and can be purified & converted

> directly into alum. Potassium alum is soluble in 7 times its weight

> of water at room temperature & is very soluable in hot water.

>

> When crystalline potassium alum is heated, some of the water of

> hydration becomes chemically seperated & the partly dehydrated salt

> dissolves in this water. Potassium alum molecules have a negative

> ionic charge, making it unable to pass through the cell wall. THEY

> ARE NOT ABSORBED!

>

> This is why Thai deodorants are SAFE to use and WILL NOT Cause high

> levels of aluminum in your system. ALUM & ALUMINUM are 2 different

> substances with distinct chemical signatures.

>

>

>