Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Insulin-like Growth Factor ONE (IGF-1) & DAIRY By Dave Rietz, WEBmaster www.notmilk.com Yes... mother natures " perfect food " ... for a calf! [until it's weaned] Everything you know about cow's milk and dairy is probably part of a Dairy industry MYTH! Cow's milk is an unhealthy fluid from diseased animals that has a wide range of dangerous and disease-causing substances that have a cumulative negative effect on all who consume it. Basics *ALL* cow's milk has 59 active hormones, scores of allergens, fat andcholesterol. Cow's milk has measurable quantities of herbicides, pesticides, dioxin's (up to 200 times the safe levels), up to 52 powerful antibiotics (perhaps 53 with LS-50), blood, pus, feces, bacteria and viruses. (Cow's milk can have traces of anything the cowate... including such things as radioactive fallout from nuke testing... (the 50's strontium-90 problem). The leading causes of death are: http://webapp.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/leadcaus.html (1998) 1 724,859 Heart Disease (think fats/cholesterol: meat,dairy) 2 541,532 Malignant Neoplasms (cancer: think toxins/milk/dairy) 2a 250,000 Medical system (drugs/etc. Think ignorance/incompetence) 3 158,448 Cerebro-vascular (think meat milk and dairy) 4 112,584 Bronchitis Emphysema Asthma (think toxins/milk/dairy) 5 97,835 Unintentional Inj & Adv. Effects 6 91,871 Pneumonia & Influenza (think weak immune systems and mucus) 7 64,751 Diabetes (think milk/dairy) 7a 40,000+ highway slaughter (men, women and children) 8 30,575 Suicide (think behavioral problems) 9 26,182 Nephritis (Bright's disease: inflammation of the kidneys) 10 25,192 Liver Disease (think alcohol and other toxins) (note: Number 13 on the CDC list is -18,272 Homicide & Legal Intervention-. It is curious that the CDC would readily list law enforcement and homicides... and not the 250,000 deaths caused by the medical system!) **** Cancer " Fuel Cell " : Of those 59 hormones one is a powerful GROWTH hormone called Insulin-like Growth Factor ONE (IGF-1). By a freak of nature it is identical between cows and humans. Consider this hormone to be a " fuel cell " for any cancer... (the medical world says IGF-1 is a key factor in the rapid growth and proliferation of breast, prostate and colon cancers, and we suspect that most likely it will be found to promote ALL cancers). IGF-1 is a normal part of ALL milk... the newborn is SUPPOSED to grow quickly! What makes the 50% of obese American consumers think they need MORE growth? Consumers don't think anything about it because theydo not have a clue to the problem... nor do most of our doctors. (See http://www.notmilk.com/igf1time.txt for a time line) **** Quantity Each bite of hard cheese has TEN TIMES whatever was in that sip of milk... because it takes ten pounds of milk to make one pound of cheese. Each bite of ice cream has 12 times ... and every swipe of butter 21 times whatever is contained in the fat molecules in a sip of milk. **** Monsanto and rbGH (Posilac) Monsanto Chemical Co., maker of fine poisons such as DDT, agent orange, Roundup and more... spent around half a billion dollars inventing a shot to inject into cows... to force a cow to produce MOREmilk (for an already glutted taxpayer subsidized market). Unfortunately, they created *FIVE* errors in their Frankenstein Posilac (rbGH) shot that direly affected all test animals... but that important report (Richard, Odaglia & Deslex, 1989) has been hidden fromeveryone under Clinton's Trade Secrets act. The Canadians read enough of this report (before it was stolen) to reject rbGH for their country. Monsanto's Posilac creates additional IGF-1 in milk: up to 80% more. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) insists that IGF-1 is destroyed in the stomach. If that were true, the FDA has proven that breast feeding cannot work. Common sense says their " finding " is ridiculous because this growth factor DOES make the baby calf grow (rapidly, as mother natured intended). Visit the Dairy Education Board at http://www.notmilk.com/deb/100399.html to review a DAIRY study that confirms what the FDA has lied about this for years. **** IGF-1 increases This study involved two groups. One group consuming 12 ounces of milk a day and the other consuming the USDA recommended allowance of 24 ounces (three cups). This report notes that the participants consuming 12 ounces more milk per day... HAD A 10% RISE IN IGF-1 IN THEIR BLOOD SERUM! Now, consider that PER DAY, from ALL sources, the typical milk/dairy consumer ingests approximately 39% of daily diet from dairy... and that 10% increase becomes the " tip of the iceberg " . We have NO idea of the non-dairy versus full-dairy difference but considering cancer rates... it has to be significant. **** Fat Whole milk 49% of the calories are from fat. " 2% " milk 35% of the calories are from fat. Cheddar cheese 74% of the calories are from fat. Butter 100% of the calories are from fat. Most folks suspect that butter is all fat. Most folks have no conceptof the just how much fat is in the rest of milk and dairy. Perhaps the54% of Americans who are obese need to comprehend that milk, ice cream,cheeses, yogurts, and all the OTHER products that use milk derivatives(casein, whey, lactose, colostrum) are most likely a significant causefor their weight and health problem. **** Calcium Calcium? Where do the COWS get calcium for their big bones? Yes... from plants! The calcium they consume from plants has a large amount ofmagnesium... necessary for the body to absorb and USE the calcium. The calcium in cow's milk is basically useless because it has insufficient magnesium content (those nations with the highest amount of milk/dairy consumption also have the highest rates of osteoporosis. Proof? How about a controlled study of 78,000 nurses over a period of 12 years? Read more about it at: http://www.notmilk.com/deb/030799.html Article on the 78,000 nurse study http://www.notmilk.com/deb/092098.html CALCIUM AND BONE DISEASE http://www.notmilk.com/badbones.html WHO GETS BONE DISEASE? http://www.notmilk.com/bonehead.txt CRIPPLING BONEHEADS http://www.notmilk.com/calcium/index.html Consolidated info Cows milk has three times the calcium as does human breast milk. No matter, neither are very usable because in order to be absorbed and used their MUST be an equal quantity of MAGNESIUM (as exists in the greens that cows eat to get all the calcium they need for their big bones). Milk has only enough magnesium to absorb around 11% (33mg per cup) of calcium. Per the USDA 8 ounces (one cup) of cows milk contains: Calcium, Ca mg 291.336 Magnesium, Mg mg 32.794 The USDA recommends 1200mg of calcium per day. The USDA recommended three cups of milk a day only have 900mg of calcium. Some argue that only 1/3 of the magnesium is necessary. Mother nature seems to suggest it should be one to one. If the ratio for proper absorption were 1/3 magnesium to one calcium then no more than 300mg of that 900mg of calcium is usable. If, in fact, it is a one to one ratio... only 98.38mg of calcium is usable. It is not a matter of how much calcium one ingests... but how much the do not lose. **** Protein Milk can be thought of as " liquid meat " because of its high protein content which, in concert with other proteins, may actually LEACH calcium from the body. Countries that consume high protein diets (meat, milk and dairy) have the highest rates of osteoporosis. **** The wholesome protein myth: MILK: 87% of milk is water. That makes it VERY expensive water. Broken down into its basic groups... WHOLE MILK is: WATER FAT CASEIN OTHER OTHER PROTEIN 87% 3.25% 4% 1% 4.75 (note: that is 3.25% " milkfat " which includes the 87% water.) 80% of the protein in milk is casein. Casein is a powerful binder... a polymer used to make plastics... and a glue that is better used to make sturdy furniture or hold beer bottle labels in place. It is in thousands of processed foods as a binder... as " something " caseinate. Casein is a powerful allergen... a histamine that creates lots of mucus. The only medicine in Olympic athlete Flo-Jo's body was Benedryl, a power antihistamine she took to combat her last meal... pizza. See http://www.notmilk.com/deb/092198.html, http://www.notmilk.com/deb/111598.html and http://www.notmilk.com/deb/112398.html for the whole story. **** Bacteria Cow's milk is allowed to have feces in it. This is a major source for bacteria. Milk is typically pasteurized more than once before it gets to your table... each time for only 15 seconds at 162 degrees Fahrenheit. To sanitize water one is told to boil it (212 degrees F) for several minutes. That is a tremendous disparity, isn't it! Keep in mind that at room temperature the number of bacteria in milk DOUBLE around every 20 minutes. No wonder milk turns rotten very quickly. **** PUS ONE cubic centimeter (cc) of commercial cow's milk is allowed to have up to 750,000 somatic cells (common name is " PUS " ) and 20,000 live bacteria... before it is kept off the market. That amounts to a whopping 20 million live squiggly bacteria and up to 750 MILLION pus cells per liter (bit more than a quart). 1 cup = 236.5882cc 177,441,150 pus cells ~ 4,731,600 bacteria 24 oz (3 glasses) 532,323,450 pus cells ~ 14,220,000 bacteria (the " recommended " daily intake) The EU and the Canadians allow for a less " tasty " 400,000,000 pus cells per liter. Typically these levels are lower... but they COULD reach these levels and still get to YOUR table. **** Cholesterol The cholesterol content of those three glasses of milk is equal to what one would get from 53 slices of bacon. Do you know of any doctor who recommends that much bacon per day? **** Kosher Is cow's milk and dairy " Kosher " ? Consider this: " D-3 always is derived from an animal. The sunlight reaction that converts 7-dehydrocholesterol to vitamin D-3 is a 'pure' chemical reaction that occurs in your skin in certain cells. " " The provitamin known as 7-dehydrocholesterol is extracted and isolated from the skins of mammals and purified. " (Marian Herbert of the Vitamin D Workshop U of C) Vitamin D-3 can come from four different sources: Pig skin, sheep skin, raw fish liver, and pig brains. Most of the time, Vitamin D-3 is extracted from pig skin and sold to dairy processors. Short answer to " is milk kosher " - probably not. **** Other " stuff " : Fat and cholesterol. Lots of it. Per the dairy influenced USDA " food pyramid " all milk, dairy and meats should represent no more than 8% of the diet. Statistically, by volume of sales in a nation of 281 million Americans, it works out to almost 40% of the diet for MILK AND DAIRY.. without the meat. The milk of each of the over 4,700 mammals on earth is formulated specifically for that species. There are special lactoferrins and immunoglobulins (cow specific immunizing stuff) that in humans serve as allergens. **** Leukemia According to Hoards Dairyman (Volume 147, number 4)... 89% of America's dairy herds have the leukemia virus. (more at notmilk/message/835) **** Diabetes The protein lactalbumin, has been identified as a key factor in diabetes (and a major reason for NOT giving cows milk to infants). **** Crohn's Disease Mycobacterium paratuberculosis causes a bovine disease called " Johne's. " Cows diagnosed with Johne's Disease have diarrhea, and heavy fecal shedding of bacteria. This bacteria becomes cultured in milk, and is not destroyed by pasteurization. Occasionally, the milk-borne bacteria will begin to grow in the human host, and irritable bowel syndrome and Crohn's results. **** Mad Cow Disease There may also be prions (pronounced PREons) in the milk and meat. This is crystalline substance that acts like a virus... with an " incubation " period of from 5 to 30 years. The end result is MAD COW DISEASE! **** Homogenization Large fat molecules cannot get through the intestinal wall into the bloodstream. The cream no longer rises... because homogenization breaks up those large molecules into small ones that DO get into the bloodstream! This becomes an expressway for any fat-borne toxins (lead, dioxin's, etc.) into your (otherwise) most protected organs. **** Cumulative effects: How does this impact humans who consume cow's milk and dairy? Obesity (over 50% of Americans and rising), heart disease, cancer, allergies, digestive problems, diabetes, asthma, desensitization to antibiotics, behavioral problems, and the constant ingestion of dioxin's, herbicides, pesticides (and anything else the cow eats that is not good for any critter), that winds up getting stored in HUMAN fat... is not healthy by any measure. Those who resist believing the truth should understand that MOST of the world's population CANNOT tolerate the lactose in cow's milk. Up to 95% of the black population, around 53% of the Hispanics, etc.) So much for cow's milk being " natures perfect food " for humans! Mother nature knows better. Common sense question: Where was this massive " milk is a must " before refrigeration, pasteurization and mass transportation? Back when cows gave only 1-4 pounds a day it was quickly made into BUTTER and cheese! Now that those same cows have been tweaked and shot-up with Posilac to produce up to 55 or more pounds of milk per day... almost all year long... it is suddenly (after many thousands of years) a daily " staple " . NOT! **** Pollution There are around 9.2 million dairy cows in the United states. Each dairy cow ingests around 330 pounds of feed (perhaps 50 pounds) and water (around 280 pounds or 33 gallons) per day. Allowing for the best dairy production of 55 pounds of milk per day (over ten times what mother nature designed the cow to produce) that means that what remains becomes " slurry " . That means around 275 pound of urine and feces per day... per cow, for a daily total of 2.53 BILLION pounds of pollution. Per year... that amounts to around 923 billion pounds of UNTREATED pollution entering our streams, rivers, lakes... and drinking water systems. Cows are hot-blooded mammals. Like all other mammals they pass gas. Somewhat like elephants their compartmented digestive system is rather inefficient... which leads to the creation of MORE gas. During a Discovery Channel documentary on elephants a parting quip was that the average adult elephant passes enough methane gas per day to run a car about 20 miles. Cows are not much better. The English New Scientist (page 5 - 31.8.96) mentions that cattle produce around 48 kilograms (105 pounds) of methane each per year and that more bubbles out of the animals' manure. Dairy cows eat more because they produce milk. With 9.2 million dairy cows times a minimum of 100 pounds of methane gas per year... that amounts almost a billion pounds of methane gas released into the atmosphere each year. With around 100 million beef cattle... pigs, sheep, and other " factory farmed " animals it should not be difficult to fathom the extent of this problem. This means that " Beef is a greenhouse-intensive food " and a major cause of global warming (with dairy a significant part of the problem). Another major point is: " Milk is a very strong pollutant: it is about 400 times more polluting than untreated sewage. To put it another way, 1,000 gallons of milk has the same polluting potential as the untreated sewage from a town of 7,000 people. " Morlais Owen. Chief Scientist for Welsh Water. North Wales Weekly News. 24.3.88. **** SOME ANSWERED QUESTIONS: Q: What is WHEY? Whey results when the FAT and CASEIN are removed from milk. In making cheese, the curds become the cheese. Whey's main components are bovine serum albumin and lactalbumin. There are other hormones contained in whey. Q: What happens to the: 59 hormones Scores of allergens herbicides, pesticides, dioxin's up to 52 antibiotics when made into cheese? A. Everything gets concentrated. when made into butter? A. The allergens get lost: but the dioxin's and pesticides and antibiotics remain in the fat. in the digestive system? Steroid hormones survive, as do dioxin's and antibiotics. In homogenized milk, protein hormones survive... depending upon the gastric pH, some protein hormones in cheese survive, but not all... eleven steroid hormones survive. and... what happens next? Eventually, everything is broken down, but not before the chemical messengers (hormones) " deliver their message. " Each of those hormones and proteins acts differently and has different rates of degradation. BOTTOM LINE... they all survive to a certain degree... and the effects are cumulative. Other health trashing substances in cow's milk: whey: Blood proteins. Bovine serum lactalbumin has been identified as a trigger for diabetes and other autoimmune diseases. lactose: Two sugars. Glucose and galactose. Galactose has been indentified as a trigger for glaucoma. There are several columns that cover lactose (covering galactose and galactosemia): http://www.notmilk.com/deb/090599.txt Dr. Gordon: Heart Disease notmilk/message/629 Lactose is dangerous notmilk/message/453 Ben's heart notmilk/message/396 Female Cancers notmilk/message/378 Lactose intolerance colostrum (cow's first milk): Loaded with hormones, particularly IGF- I, along with loads of immunizing agents for COW DISEASES. Answers courtesy of the NOTMILKMAN. (notmi-) MILK: What a surprise! (read what a NOTMILK guest book respondent said: http://www.notmilk.com/gbooktalk.txt) ************* For more of the WHOLE truth... visit: For all past newsletters visit with a wealth of information: http://www.notmilk.com/deb/column.html and for the Daily Squirts of NOTMILK wisdom... http://www.notmilk.com/deb/squirts.html Diabetics please read http://www.notmilk.com/deb/011099.html Read up on " mad cow disease " ? Visit http://www.milkgate.com for what may well be mankind's NEXT plague. http://www.notmilk.com/milkinfo.txt my 2400 word overview (this file) http://www.notmilk.com/wholemilk.txt USDA facts, and what they omitted http://www.notmilk.com/52reasons.txt A reason for every week of the year Perhaps the BEST single reference: http://www.notmilk.com/a-z.txt Extensive reasons by ailment/topic Quote: " It's not natural for humans to drink cow's milk. Humans milk is for humans. Cow's milk is for calves. You have no more need of cow's milk than you do rats milk, horses milk or elephant's milk. Cow's milk is a high fat fluid exquisitely designed to turn a 65 lb baby calf into a 400 lb cow. That's what cow's milk is for! " Dr Michael Klaper MD " I no longer recommend dairy products after the age of 2 years. Other calcium sources offer many advantages that dairy products do not have. " ......... Dr. Benjamin Spock ***** PLEASE... PASS THIS INFO AROUND TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW! ***** JoAnn Guest mrsjo- www.geocities.com/mrsjoguest/Diets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Yumm that milk sounds really good. I have been living on milk for a few weeks now. I mix it 1/4 with chocolate milk and then add two ounces of heavy cream to each cup to get more fat and I do about three glasses like that a day and have a piece of meat once also. Fat is king, our bodies are designed to operate on fat and saturated fat is the best. Oh and I saute the steak in a quarter stick of butter too :-) The low fat craze that has been taking the country by storm the last few decades is the biggest lie. The correct portions of Fat and protein and carbs in the diet is 1 part protien....2.5 to 3.5 parts fat and .8 parts carbs. There are no essential carbs, the bady can creat all the carbs it needs from fat and protien. http://homodiet.netfirms.com/ When I first did the homo diet for a few months a couple years ago I would have a breakfast that consisted of two eggs, two or three pieces of bacon about a 1/4 stick of butter and one slice of bread. I would fry the bacon keep the grease in the pan add the butter and then fry the eggs in the grease. then I put the bread in the pan to fry it slightly in the grease and soak most of it up then put it on the plate and put the eggs on top. Then I eat the whole thing grease and all, it was the best thing I have tasted, and I was not hungry for most of the rest of the day. When you switch your body over to run on fats instead of sugar you get long term energy and dont have to eat much. The true killers in our diet are the polyunsaturated oils you buy in the store. they are the cause of cancer and clogged arteries arthritis and all that other stuff people suffer from. http://www.biblelife.org/saturated_fat.htm This web site will prove the most healthy diet for humans is: 70% total fat on a calorie basis 31% saturated fat 7% polyunsaturated fat 25% monounsaturated fat 7% other fats 27% protein 3% carbohydrates (20 gm of which 3 gm or less is fiber). You can buy the insulin growth factor in the health food store.... Athletes use it to grow big muscles. Maybe its not good if you have a cancer to grow, but if you do not have a cancer then it can be useful. There is always a scare around cancer and all the things that makes it grow but that only applies to people that have it, not everybody. Take care, V Join My Newsletter Today http://www.health-freedom.info/ > > Insulin-like Growth Factor ONE (IGF-1) & DAIRY > By Dave Rietz, WEBmaster www.notmilk.com > Yes... mother natures " perfect food " ... for a calf! [until it's > weaned] Everything you know about cow's milk and dairy is probably > part of > a Dairy industry MYTH! Cow's milk is an unhealthy fluid from diseased > animals that has a wide range of dangerous and disease-causing > substances that have a cumulative negative effect on all who consume > it. > Basics > *ALL* cow's milk has 59 active hormones, scores of allergens, fat > andcholesterol. Cow's milk has measurable quantities of > herbicides, > pesticides, dioxin's (up to 200 times the safe levels), up to 52 > powerful antibiotics (perhaps 53 with LS-50), blood, pus, feces, > bacteria and viruses. (Cow's milk can have traces of anything the > cowate... including such things as > radioactive fallout from nuke testing... (the 50's strontium-90 > problem). > The leading causes of death are: > http://webapp.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/leadcaus.html (1998) > 1 724,859 Heart Disease (think fats/cholesterol: meat,dairy) > 2 541,532 Malignant Neoplasms (cancer: think toxins/milk/dairy) > 2a 250,000 Medical system (drugs/etc. Think ignorance/incompetence) > 3 158,448 Cerebro-vascular (think meat milk and dairy) > 4 112,584 Bronchitis Emphysema Asthma (think toxins/milk/dairy) > 5 97,835 Unintentional Inj & Adv. Effects > 6 91,871 Pneumonia & Influenza (think weak immune systems and > mucus) > 7 64,751 Diabetes (think milk/dairy) > 7a 40,000+ highway slaughter (men, women and children) > 8 30,575 Suicide (think behavioral problems) > 9 26,182 Nephritis (Bright's disease: inflammation of the > kidneys) > 10 25,192 Liver Disease (think alcohol and other toxins) > (note: Number 13 on the CDC list is -18,272 Homicide & Legal > Intervention-. It is curious that the CDC would readily list law > enforcement and homicides... and not the 250,000 deaths caused by > the medical system!) > **** Cancer " Fuel Cell " : > Of those 59 hormones one is a powerful GROWTH hormone called > Insulin-like Growth Factor ONE (IGF-1). By a freak of nature it is > identical between cows and humans. Consider this hormone to be > a " fuel > cell " for > any cancer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 , V <vzon17 wrote: > When I first did the homo diet for a few months a couple years ago I would have a breakfast that consisted of two eggs, two or three pieces of bacon about a 1/4 stick of butter and one slice of bread. I would fry the bacon keep the grease in the pan add the butter and then fry the eggs in the grease. then I put the bread in the pan to fry it slightly in the grease.... Oh, my dear! Frying creates carcinogenic substances in everything it touches. Eggs may be the world's most perfect protein, hoever perhaps you weren't aware that antibiotics and hormones which are added to commerical poultry feed accumulate in our system and lead to a multitude of other helth problems (endocrine imbalance, etc) The people who advise that we follow these types of diets do not seem to be aware of all the numerous illnesses that these types of diets create. While alternative medicine, per se, may have much to offer in the way of supplements, herbs and dietary advice, it is this sort of advice that may eventually lead to its downfall. Allopathic medicine has pulled down so many websites you would think that they would heed the warnings and stop this nonsense. However, some people never learn do they.I would think that in the light of the obesity epidemic each one of us should try to exert more of a precautionary approach to health.The eggs may save you from a massive coronary (they do have a high lecithin content which may offset the high cholesterol content of the yolks, however this info seems to be just as controversial as the info you have just posted. It is my fervent wish that the scores of coronary patients who have sought my advice and who sporadically read this site do not heed your untimely advice.If they do, we will only be doing allopathic medicine a favor for I'm thinking all of our Intensive Care units will need a lot of backup personnel over the weekend if they do. There was a time when I may have believed you, however I thank God that I have the experience to back up my statements. God knows I suffered enough in the process! For I have recovered completely from a (quote) " hopeless " heart condition by just eliminating all harmful fats (saturated as well) replacing them with the essential fatty acids (fish oil,raw nuts, organic fruits and vegetables and good fats and there are many of them... you should research the good " nutrient-dense " fats! You will be amazed at the health benefits to be had just by changing one's approach. The posting on dixoins enumerates a host of viable reasons why we should elimnate animal fats. They are loaded with dioxins and other harmful toxins which permeate the animal kingdom. Perhaps you weren't aware. It pays to research these things. It saves us from further pain and discomfort as we grow older. As I say, I thank God that I received a 'wake up' call in my mid fifties! It truly saved my life and I have learned that there is nothing that will deter me from following a more healthy diet! It has saved me from traditional medications and has restored my heart and soul,....literally! God bless, JoAnn > The true killers in our diet are the polyunsaturated oils you buy in the store. they are the cause of cancer and clogged arteries arthritis and all that other stuff people suffer from. JoAnn's comments: Polyunsaturated oils cannot be taken into consideration unless you differentiate between refined and unrefined. There is a HUGE difference in the metabolism of each individual oil.I posted an article on this subject just this evening. Perhaps you should read it? It just may enlighten you. > This web site will prove the most healthy diet for humans is: And.... Just where are the studies to back up these claims ???? Orthodox medicine has studies to prove otherwise! > You can buy the insulin growth factor in the health food store.... Athletes use it to grow big muscles. Maybe its not good if you have a cancer to grow, but if you do not have a cancer then it can be useful. There is always a scare around cancer and all the things that makes it grow but that only applies to people that have it, not everybody. Surely,...perhaps you weren't aware that EVERY one of us has cancer cells in OUR bodies!! It is just a matter of time and if your immune system is able to handle it and kill them faster than they multiply! If not then the IGF factor causes them to grow faster than our immune system can kill them, we are in dire trouble! Just a thought... BTW.... did you see the recent segment on sixty minutes regarding the fact that there is existing proof... in lab studies that injected growth hormones and this also includes those which are in HFS's are ALL carcinogenic!! Even doctors admit this, and they still administer it. Risky to be sure, but obviously the 'profit motive' is strong and what do they care as long as they pull in the profits? Everything found in a HFS is not heathful...sorry to be the first to break the news to you.... however the fact remains... Regards, JoAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Yes it is good to use organic free range eggs which I do, and if I cook I do it at low temp. I also did the totaly raw diet for a while includnig meat. http://www.karlloren.com/diet/p80.htm I still do eggs raw all the the time, yumm cholesterol. They have done studies that show the cholesterol that you consume in you diet has very little to do with your cholesterol levels which is another falacy perpetrated by the medical establishment, cholesterol level does not matter much and eatnig cholesterol dose not affect it. I sometimes eat 6 or more eggs a day but always raw. Your liver creates about 2 pounds of cholesterol a day and the body uses it to make all sorts of things, it is vitaly important. http://www.ravnskov.nu/cholesterol.htm I think the controversy is good becaues it makes people look at their pet beliefs about what they think they know and that is especaillly true about what we eat. I am in my mid 50s also and seem to be real good health. I have been into health and diets since my early twenties so I am not a newbie on this. I have found that the commonly held beliefs about health are usually the opposite of what is true. So I make sure I eat lots of fat and cholesterol each day. I think if ones body is functioning correctly the toxins are eliminated so I dont worry about them too much. If one is ill however then it may be a good idea to minimize ones exposure to help the body do its job. I pretty much dont eat anythnig that comes in a can or a box. no factory fresh food for me most of the time. I usually eat only stuff that is in the vegetable isle and meat department preferambly organic if available. Take care, V Join My Newsletter Today http://www.health-freedom.info/ > , V <vzon17 > wrote: > >> When I first did the homo diet for a few months a couple years ago > I would have a breakfast that consisted of two eggs, two or three > pieces of bacon about a 1/4 stick of butter and one slice of bread. > I would fry the bacon keep the grease in the pan add the butter and > then fry the eggs in the grease. then I put the bread in the pan to > fry it slightly in the grease.... > Oh, my dear! > Frying creates carcinogenic substances in everything it touches. > Eggs may be the world's most perfect protein, hoever perhaps you > weren't aware that antibiotics and hormones which are added to > commerical poultry feed accumulate in our system and lead to a > multitude of other helth problems (endocrine imbalance, etc) > The people who advise that we follow these types of diets do not > seem to be aware of all the numerous illnesses that these types of > diets create. > While alternative medicine, per se, may have much to offer in the > way of supplements, herbs and dietary advice, it is this sort of > advice that may eventually lead to its downfall. Allopathic medicine > has pulled down so many websites you would think that they would > heed the warnings and stop this nonsense. However, some people never > learn do they.I would think that in the light of the obesity > epidemic each one of us should try to exert more of a precautionary > approach to health.The eggs may save you from a massive coronary > (they do have a high lecithin content which may offset the high > cholesterol content of the yolks, however this info seems to be just > as > controversial as the info you have just posted. It is my fervent > wish that the scores of coronary patients who have sought my advice > and who sporadically read this site do not heed your untimely > advice.If they do, we will only be doing allopathic medicine a favor > for I'm thinking all of our > Intensive Care units will need a lot of backup personnel over the > weekend if they do. There was a time when I may have believed you, > however I thank God that I have the experience to back up my > statements. God knows I suffered enough in the process! For > I have recovered completely from a (quote) " hopeless " heart > condition by just eliminating all harmful fats (saturated as well) > replacing them with the essential fatty acids (fish oil,raw nuts, > organic fruits and vegetables and good fats and there are many of > them... you should research the good " nutrient-dense " fats! You will > be amazed at the health benefits to be had just by changing one's > approach. > The posting on dixoins enumerates a host of viable reasons > why we should elimnate animal fats. They are loaded with dioxins and > other harmful toxins which permeate the animal kingdom. Perhaps you > weren't aware. It pays to research these things. It saves us from > further pain and discomfort as we grow older. As I say, I thank God > that I received a 'wake up' call in my mid fifties! It truly saved > my life and I have learned that there is nothing that will deter me > from following a more healthy diet! It has saved me from traditional > medications and has restored my heart and soul,....literally! > God bless, > JoAnn >> The true killers in our diet are the polyunsaturated oils you buy > in the store. they are the cause of cancer and clogged arteries > arthritis and all that other stuff people suffer from. > JoAnn's comments: > Polyunsaturated oils cannot be taken into consideration unless you > differentiate between refined and unrefined. There is a HUGE > difference in the metabolism of each individual oil.I posted an > article on this subject just this evening. Perhaps you should read > it? It just may enlighten you. > >> This web site will prove the most healthy diet for humans is: > And.... > Just where are the studies to back up these claims ???? Orthodox > medicine has studies to prove otherwise! >> You can buy the insulin growth factor in the health food store.... > Athletes use it to grow big muscles. Maybe its not good if you have > a cancer to grow, but if you do not have a cancer then it can be > useful. There is always a scare around cancer and all the things > that makes it grow but that only applies to people that have it, not > everybody. > Surely,...perhaps you > weren't aware that EVERY one of us has cancer cells in OUR > bodies!! It is just a matter of time and if your immune system is > able to handle it and kill them faster than they multiply! > If not then the IGF factor causes them to grow faster than our > immune system can kill them, we are in dire trouble! Just a > thought... > BTW.... > did you see the recent segment on sixty minutes regarding the fact > that there is existing proof... > in lab studies that injected > growth hormones and this also includes those which are in HFS's are > ALL > carcinogenic!! Even doctors admit this, and they > still administer it. Risky to be sure, but obviously the 'profit > motive' is strong and what do they care as long as they pull in the > profits? > Everything found in a HFS is not heathful...sorry to be the first to > break the news to you.... however the fact remains... > Regards, > JoAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 , V <vzon17 wrote: > I still do eggs raw all the time. I discovered that raw eggs contain substances that may be even more detrimental to our health. Perhaps you weren't aware that raw eggs are a major contributing factor in iron deficient anemia? Although I typically 'consumed' organic raw eggs in my morning smoothie, I have recently totally eliminated this approach and have subsequently discovered improvements in my " red blood " count. > They have done studies that show the cholesterol that you consume in you diet has very little to do with your cholesterol levels which is another falacy perpetrated by the medical establishment, First of all, " who " are you referring to? I really doubt that such a study would originate with orthodox medicine and until you can prove that such a study exists I have my doubts as to it's efficacy. I assume your referencing LDL levels here. It is allopathic drugs which cause these problems in that they plunge cholesterol levels to damgerously low levels and this interferes with our hormonal balance (cholesterol is the starting point for the body's production of naturally occurring estrogen stores and other important hormones). >cholesterol level does not matter much and eatnig cholesterol dose not affect it. This is controversial... actually the amounts of bad cholesterol originating from the good fats (essential fats) are dependent on our " good cholesterol " stores as well because HDL is the body's way of eliminating excessive cholesterol stores which may have serious inflammatory and damaging effects on our arteries because it is these HDL " lipoproteins " that " escort' the harmful cholesterol to the liver to be disposed of!! That is the most simplistic way that I know to explain it. Perhaps our readers will catch on to this most important bit of information. Cholesterol has been around since the Korean war and it is sometimes inflammatory, but only if it is " oxidized " . It just depends on how our bodies make use of it. Let's hope that yours always disposes of it in the right way. Otherwise you will experience these same types of heart and artery problems that I have experienced!!. It is a gamble and one which I am not willing to participate in. My " health " all but 'disappeared' at one time and I am just walking a fine line here until the end, whenever that is! I wish you well in all your endeavors. God Bless, JoAnn JoAnn's comments: It is the amounts of good cholesterol which are circulating in our bloodstream at any given time which is important. If you have sufficient amounts of HDL or good cholesterol ( from optimal amounts of essential fatty acid in your diet) you may be able to 'get by' without experiencing any of the deficiencies that such a " poor ratio " creates. Cholesterol is important, however it is best to reduce your levels of LDL cholesterol and elevate your levels of HDL cholesterol. At the rate you are going unless you add more essential fats to your regimen you may be in for a surprise as it is the ratio of saturated fats to essential fats that is important for health. Have you ever researched the benefits of omega 3 fats. In my opinion, they are the most important of all in supporting good health and especially as we age. Most of us are familiar with Johanna Budwig and her research on omega-3(essential fats0 in regards to their cancer benefits. Our bodies can exist without the saturated fats however essential fatty acid stores must be kept at optimal levels to maintain good health. It is only when our supply of essential fatty acids run low that we begin to experience more drastic health problems which may jeopardize our health and longevity. Udo Erasmus claims that our bodies can function without saturated fats and he also maintains that without essential fats they begin to deteriorate and age in his book, " Fats that heal, Fats that Kill " www.udoerasmus.com http://thyroid.about.com/cs/alternativehelp/l/bludo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2006 Report Share Posted August 25, 2006 Hi JoAnn, I want to thank you for the eduction you are giving here, Im sure it will benefit everyone. I do get some Essential fats Omega-3 mostly from cod liver oil and from the egg yolks. I used to do flax oil but found it was not that good because the body has to convert it. I have been readnig about Krill oil and might try that too. I dont go by too many studies done by orthodox medicine as they really dont cover nutrition very well. and the ones that they do I hold in suspect. Take care, V > , V <vzon17 > wrote: >> I still do eggs raw all the time. > I discovered that raw eggs contain substances that may be even more > detrimental to our health. Perhaps you weren't aware that raw eggs > are a major contributing factor in iron deficient anemia? Although I > typically 'consumed' organic raw eggs in my morning smoothie, I have > recently totally eliminated this approach and have subsequently > discovered improvements in my " red blood " count. >> They have done studies that show the cholesterol that you consume > in you diet has very little to do with your cholesterol levels which > is another falacy perpetrated by the medical establishment, > First of all, " who " are you referring to? I really doubt that such a > study would originate with orthodox medicine and until you can prove > that such a study exists I have my doubts as to it's efficacy. > I assume your referencing LDL levels here. It is allopathic drugs > which cause these problems in that they plunge cholesterol levels to > damgerously low levels and this interferes with our hormonal balance > (cholesterol is the starting point for the body's production of > naturally occurring estrogen stores and other important hormones). >>cholesterol level does not matter much and eatnig cholesterol dose > not affect it. > This is controversial... actually the amounts of bad cholesterol > originating from the good fats (essential fats) are dependent on > our " good cholesterol " stores as well because HDL is the body's way > of eliminating excessive cholesterol stores which may have serious > inflammatory and damaging effects on our arteries because it is > these HDL " lipoproteins " that " escort' the harmful cholesterol to > the liver to be disposed of!! That is the most simplistic way that I > know to explain it. Perhaps our readers will catch on to this most > important bit of information. Cholesterol has been around since the > Korean war and it is sometimes inflammatory, but only if it > is " oxidized " . > It just depends on how our bodies make use of it. Let's hope that > yours always disposes of it in the right way. Otherwise you will > experience these same types of heart and artery problems that I have > experienced!!. It is a gamble and one which I am not willing to > participate in. My " health " all but 'disappeared' at one time and I > am just walking a fine line here until the end, whenever that is! > I wish you well in all your endeavors. > God Bless, > JoAnn > JoAnn's comments: > It is the amounts of good cholesterol which are circulating in our > bloodstream at any given time which is important. If you have > sufficient amounts of HDL or good cholesterol ( from optimal amounts > of essential fatty acid in your diet) you may be able to 'get by' > without experiencing any of the deficiencies that such a " poor > ratio " creates. > Cholesterol is important, however it is best to reduce your levels > of LDL cholesterol and elevate your levels of HDL cholesterol. At > the rate you are going unless you add more essential fats to your > regimen you may be in for a surprise as it is the ratio of saturated > fats to essential fats that is important for health. > Have you ever researched the benefits of omega 3 fats. In my > opinion, they are the most important of all in supporting good > health and especially as we age. Most of us are familiar with > Johanna Budwig and her research on omega-3(essential fats0 in > regards to their cancer benefits. > Our bodies can exist without the saturated fats however essential > fatty acid stores must be kept at optimal levels to maintain good > health. It is only when our supply of essential fatty acids run low > that we begin to experience more drastic health problems which may > jeopardize our health and longevity. > Udo Erasmus claims that our bodies can function without saturated > fats and he also maintains that without essential fats they begin to > deteriorate and age in his book, " Fats that heal, Fats that Kill " > www.udoerasmus.com > http://thyroid.about.com/cs/alternativehelp/l/bludo.htm \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 , V <vzon17 wrote: > Hi JoAnn, > >> They have done studies that show the cholesterol that you consume in your diet has very little to do with your cholesterol levels which is another falacy perpetrated by the medical establishment, Cholesterol has been the topic for numerous studies, of this we are all aware. I believe that I have scanned through most of them while researching my own health concerns. Although there is a measure of truth in these studies, I believe there are numerous flaws in the research as well. Of particular interest to me are the ones stating that low cholesterol levels in the elderly " promote " the growth of viruses, and the list goes on... And according to their reasoning, conversely these facts indicate that high cholesterol levels are beneficial... .. although a host of other variables are not mentioned (i.e. whether or not any of the elderly subjects in question were on " lipid lowering " (cholesterol) medications!). There are multiple references to a number of these studies on the web and surprisingly enough on alternative websites to help explain the " myths " . I submit to you that if any of these individuals were recipients of lipid lowering drugs,(and this seems perfectly reasonable to me because the current popularity of these drugs) all of those adverse (side) could very well be " drug related " . The dangers of lowering cholesterol artificially to the " other extreme " are not well known, whereas low cholesterol levels which 'naturally' emanate from healthier diets and lifestyle in my opinion would not in any way be implicated in these other illnesses. The toxicity of drugs, especially statins, and the way it causes a breadkdown in immune system function is not well known. Unfortunately, because these specific studies are so misleading, the conspiracy goes on.... for those of us who ARE aware of the dangers of cholesterol lowering drugs and the mechanism behind them, we need to aggressively avoid them ourselves and advise against the use of them whenever possible! Blessings, JoAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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