Guest guest Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Is There Triclosan in Your Toothpaste? Watch out for this chemical. It's included in 'germ killing' tooth-pastes, mouthwashes, deodorants, soaps, on and on. But is it safe? The EPA sees it as a pesticide and a high risk factor to human health. Triclosan is in a class of chemicals suspected of causing cancer in humans. Stored in body fat, it can accumulate to toxic levels, damaging the liver, kidneys, and lungs, and can suppress your immune function. A popular 'holistic' toothpaste contains sodium lauryl sulfate, another toxic chemical. Look at the 'ingredients' list of your tooth-paste to be sure you don't expose yourself to it. A word to the wise: Prevention! - - - Reply with your name and street or po box address for your free copy of The Holistic Dental Digest PLUS, now in its 27th year and helping people on 5 continents. jmittelman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 What other toothpastes would you suggest? I've been a user of Tom's of Maine for years and after reading your post realize there is sodium lauryl sulfate in it. Ilene - " Jerry Mittelman " <jmittelman. > Is There Triclosan in Your Toothpaste? > > Watch out for this chemical. It's included in 'germ killing' tooth-pastes, > mouthwashes, deodorants, soaps, on and on. But is it safe? > > The EPA sees it as a pesticide and a high risk factor to human health. > Triclosan is in a class of chemicals suspected of causing cancer in > humans. Stored in body fat, it can accumulate to toxic levels, damaging > the liver, kidneys, and lungs, and can suppress your immune function. > > A popular 'holistic' toothpaste contains sodium lauryl sulfate, another > toxic chemical. Look at the 'ingredients' list of your tooth-paste to be > sure you don't expose yourself to it. > > A word to the wise: Prevention! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 I use either homeopathic or herbal toothpastes. Regards, Jagannath. , " I. Crawford " <willow.myst wrote: > > What other toothpastes would you suggest? I've been a user of Tom's of > Maine for years and after reading your post realize there is sodium lauryl > sulfate in it. > > Ilene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 you could make your own... The first article is about sodium lauryl sulfate and the second is natural oral care...(includes an easy to make tooth power) http://www.care2.com/channels/solutions/self/192 http://www.care2.com/channels/solutions/self/235 Cynthia , " I. Crawford " <willow.myst wrote: > > What other toothpastes would you suggest? I've been a user of Tom's of > Maine for years and after reading your post realize there is sodium lauryl > sulfate in it. > > Ilene > - > " Jerry Mittelman " <jmittelman > > > > Is There Triclosan in Your Toothpaste? > > > > Watch out for this chemical. It's included in 'germ killing' tooth-pastes, > > mouthwashes, deodorants, soaps, on and on. But is it safe? > > > > The EPA sees it as a pesticide and a high risk factor to human health. > > Triclosan is in a class of chemicals suspected of causing cancer in > > humans. Stored in body fat, it can accumulate to toxic levels, damaging > > the liver, kidneys, and lungs, and can suppress your immune function. > > > > A popular 'holistic' toothpaste contains sodium lauryl sulfate, another > > toxic chemical. Look at the 'ingredients' list of your tooth- paste to be > > sure you don't expose yourself to it. > > > > A word to the wise: Prevention! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 I know someone whose family uses plain old baking soda. , " I. Crawford " <willow.myst wrote: > > What other toothpastes would you suggest? I've been a user of Tom's of > Maine for years and after reading your post realize there is sodium lauryl > sulfate in it. > > Ilene > - > " Jerry Mittelman " <jmittelman > > > > Is There Triclosan in Your Toothpaste? > > > > Watch out for this chemical. It's included in 'germ killing' tooth-pastes, > > mouthwashes, deodorants, soaps, on and on. But is it safe? > > > > The EPA sees it as a pesticide and a high risk factor to human health. > > Triclosan is in a class of chemicals suspected of causing cancer in > > humans. Stored in body fat, it can accumulate to toxic levels, damaging > > the liver, kidneys, and lungs, and can suppress your immune function. > > > > A popular 'holistic' toothpaste contains sodium lauryl sulfate, another > > toxic chemical. Look at the 'ingredients' list of your tooth- paste to be > > sure you don't expose yourself to it. > > > > A word to the wise: Prevention! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 --- There are a number of effective toothpastes featured in vitamin outlet and family health food stores, however my absolute favorite is a homeopathic toothpaste identified as lemon " Homeodent " . I wouldn't rely on any other product. Bioforce mouth wash contains another good herbal combination for health teeth and gums. You are doing yourself a favor if you rely on homeopathic formulas rather than an untested product such as Tom's of Maine. Although on literally every pharmacy shelf, they contain not one of the herbal ingredients that contributes to healthy gums and teeth. Tea tree oil and Neem are some other herbs which are beneficial for fighting oral bacteria and tooth decay. Fluoride is not the answer and the public is being deceived on this issue as on so many others. Jagannath, I believe that India has the answers to healthy gums, actually. I would like to have a Neem tree in my backyard (sigh) but I guess I'll have to rely on Homeodent. :-) solution. Neem is the most effective remedy for avoiding dental problems, and this is according to the writings of James A. Dukes, Ph.D., former head of the USDA Botanical Department. Blessings, JoAnn In , " patram81 " <patram81 wrote: > > I know someone whose family uses plain old baking soda. > > , " I. Crawford " > <willow.myst@> wrote: > > > > What other toothpastes would you suggest? I've been a user of > Tom's of > > Maine for years and after reading your post realize there is sodium > lauryl > > sulfate in it. > > > > Ilene > > - > > " Jerry Mittelman " <jmittelman@ > > > > > > > Is There Triclosan in Your Toothpaste? > > > > > > Watch out for this chemical. It's included in 'germ killing' > tooth-pastes, > > > mouthwashes, deodorants, soaps, on and on. But is it safe? > > > > > > The EPA sees it as a pesticide and a high risk factor to human > health. > > > Triclosan is in a class of chemicals suspected of causing cancer > in > > > humans. Stored in body fat, it can accumulate to toxic levels, > damaging > > > the liver, kidneys, and lungs, and can suppress your immune > function. > > > > > > A popular 'holistic' toothpaste contains sodium lauryl sulfate, > another > > > toxic chemical. Look at the 'ingredients' list of your tooth- > paste to be > > > sure you don't expose yourself to it. > > > > > > A word to the wise: Prevention! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 The following are the ingredients in Homeodent. There are several ingredients that are not safe including the parabens, titanium dioxide, sodium lauryl sulfate. There are much, much better products out there that use better ingredients. Too bad that they are using some great homeopathics and then add ingredients that can be harmful to the body. Some of the tooth soaps are good, although many of them have questionable ingredients. There are also several tooth powders that are good. HomeodentR Toothpaste Active Ingredients Lemon Flavor: Calendula officinalis, Plantago major, Cochlearia armoracia, Hamamelis virginiana, purified water, calcium carbonate, xylitol, glycerin, titanium dioxide, sodium alginate, lemon oil, sodium lauryl sulfate, sodium silicate solution, silicon dioxide, anise oil, methyl paraben, propyl paraben Anise Flavor: Calendula officinalis, Plantago major, Cochlearia armoracia, Hamamelis virginiana, purified water, calcium carbonate, glycerin, titanium dioxide, sodium alginate, sodium lauryl sulfate, sodium silicate solution, anise oil, silicon dioxide, marigold, plantain, horse radish, witch hazel, methyl paraben, propyl paraben Loretta Lanphier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 , " Dr. Loretta Lanphier " <LorettaLanphier wrote: > > The following are the ingredients in Homeodent. There are several > ingredients that are not safe including the parabens, titanium dioxide, > sodium lauryl sulfate. Loretta, Thanks for the info, however it's already listed on my toothpaste.:-) I am aware there are other products on the market,however this is the one which was recommended to me and it is the one that I have come to rely on.Here again it is drawn to my attention, the difference between naturally occuring substances in nature and the ones manufactured in labs. This is my understanding.... Most all pharmaceuticals (drugs and additives) have their basis in nature. Because it is not possible to patent a natural substance (although it is important to understand that propriatory blends and extraction methods can be patented in the natural field) there is no incentive for a drug company to market natural substances. However, they DO understand the power of many natural modalities. So they " synthisize " ...tear apart the natural, down to its molecular components, and then manipulate those components to have a slightly altered molecular structure and there...they have a patentable product. Now understand this is a very simplified explanation... BUT....our bodies don't quite know what to do with these altered molecules and therefore there are side affects, sometimes fatal for the user, and in the case of the women on trial now who were on Prosac because of post partum (sp) depression and killed their children, it can also be fatal for others surrounding those taking these pharmaceuticals. The following information applies to Sodium Lauryl Sulfate and Lauryth Sulfate as well. It is not a carcinagen. I have read the MSDS sheet on it and it is only a " skin irritent " . But it also provides for the " sudsing " affect that we have been programmed to believe is necessary for a true cleaning process. Were you aware that there are naturally occurring fluorides in our foods? So, my belief is then, that there is not a danger in floride that may be in foods naturally. The thing is that when a substance is " singled out " and removed from its environment it may be toxic also. The reason for that is because in nature there are many other " ingredients " or substances that we don't have a clue about yet that counteract the action of one particular component that is known, by itself to be toxic. This applies to sodium lauryl sulfate as well, and I'm assuming that homeopathics make use of the coconut oil derivative which goes by the same name. Boiron uses this form as well. I realize that some companies wish to confuse the issue,, but it all depends on where you are placing your trust. Personally I trust their discretion in eliminating any of the more harmful chemicals from my toothpaste formula. Furthermore, the kinesiologist who recommended it to me, would not have an inferior product in her store, she is very discriminating in these areas and since I do not absorb it into my system by ingesting it, I am not going to be overly concerned. What interests me is the " warning " on all toothpastes I've ever seen on the open market and that includes health food stores, that if it is ingested, to call poison control. I was told once that although health food stores may offer a a better choice, the companies manufacturing the products are still in business to make money....there are few other reasons to be in business after all, and many of those companies are not as interested in limiting their use manufactued chemicals that, by themselves, are not considered by the FDA to be dangerous. But then, I don't trust the FDA anyway... Titanium dioxide Titanium dioxide is used as a white food dye. In that use, its E number is E17. I guarantee that anyone whose ever eaten any " processed foods " has ingested titanium doxide, so how dangerous could it be? Methyl paraben http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=12387298 & dopt=Abstract >Evaluation of the health aspects of methyl paraben: a review of the published literature. Soni MG, Taylor SL, Greenberg NA, Burdock GA. Burdock Group, Vero Beach, FL 32962, USA. msoni Methyl paraben (CAS No. 99-76-3) is a methyl ester of p- hydroxybenzoic acid. It is a stable, non-volatile compound used as an antimicrobial preservative in foods, drugs and cosmetics for over 50 years. Methyl paraben is readily and completely absorbed through the skin and from the gastrointestinal tract. It is hydrolyzed to p- hydroxybenzoic acid, conjugated, and the conjugates are rapidly excreted in the urine. There is no evidence of accumulation. Acute toxicity studies in animals indicate that methyl paraben is practically non-toxic by both oral and parenteral routes. In a population with normal skin, methyl paraben is practically non- irritating and non-sensitizing. In chronic administration studies, no-observed-effect levels (NOEL) as high as 1050 mg/kg have been reported and a no-observed-adverse-effect level (NOAEL) in the rat of 5700 mg/kg is posited. Methyl paraben is not carcinogenic or mutagenic. It is not teratogenic or embryotoxic and is negative in the uterotrophic assay. Allergic reactions to ingested parabens have been reported, although rigorous evidence of the allergenicity of ingested paraben is lacking. I would rather place my trust in Boiron than Tom's of Maine. Just my personal preference, I guess. JoAnn Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Hi JoAnn I was just sending the ingredient list in for education purposes only as most probably don't know the ingredients. ) Many companies will market their ingredients as " safe " and " natural " because?....they realize that " natural " and " organic " are the new buzz words. The line between what is organic, all-natural, etc. and what is not is smudged, at best. But don't be fooled as the big cosmetic and food corporations hope this is what will happen. Many of the large food companies are trying to get the FDA to allow them to include a few specific chemicals and still be able to label the food as organic. Again, they realize how huge the organic and all-natural market truly is, but as usual, they would like for everyone to play by their rules while they pocket all the profits. I am a formulator of a few products so I am not new to this type of discussion and am quite familiar about what can be patented, etc. I work with this all the time. Is titanium dioxide, methyparaben, sodium lauryl sulfate dangerous in small quantities? No---not for most people---however yes for people that suffer health challenges which is probably a huge amount of the population. The last thing that they need is more toxic overload. And what concerns me most is that these ingredients are in just about all personal care products, even many of the so-called natural products. The average American uses between 5-13 personal skincare/hair products every single day! Over a period of time, this is certainly enough to have an affect on the body. I was in Ulta today which is a cosmetic, perfume, etc. store---they carry all different manufacturers. I looked at one particular brand of shampoo and the ingredient list was 4 inches across by 2 inches long and in type that even a person with 20/20 vision would need a magnifying glass! Why would we want to put all that on our hair and skin? For as many articles that can be found that support these ingredients, I can find as many or more that do not support them and many skincare lists do list them as toxic to the body. Titanium Dioxide is one that most will swear is extremely safe and just as always we are beginning to realize that, once again, we have been lied to. There is information coming out that says different, but it is very difficult for people to change their belief system. The parabens are a very, very cheap way to add ingredients that are antimicrobial (keeps bacteria, etc. from growing) Why not add some essential oils that will do the very same thing but will not be toxic to the body? Because it would cost a little bit more and these manufacturers want their products to have shelf lives of 3-5 years. I don't know about everyone else, but I don't want a product on my skin or in my mouth that has been sitting around for 3-5 years and in packaging that may be as dangerous as the product itself. Another FYI to consider---if a product contains essential oils and is not in glass packaging then there is a huge possibility that there will be a reaction between the product and the packaging---even with the so-called safe plastics. Personally, I don't believe in " safe " plastics and I do hope that one day all supplements, personal skincare products, etc. will go back to glass packaging. Some of the companies that produce more hi-tech products are beginning to realize how important this really is. Parabens, which have been found in breast tissue from underarm deodorants that contain parabens, may also disrupt normal enzyme activity. Does it mean that it causes cancer---some say possibly and some say absolutely not. By the way the ones that say " not " are in the cosmetic industry that has it in their products. Again, personally, I am not going to participate and be the guinea pig when in the next 10-20 years they say, " Oh, sorry, but we were wrong. " Also, while in Ulta today, I saw a few popular cosmetic manufacturers that are touting " paraben-free " . Do they know something that is not public knowledge and are therefore making sure they dodge future lawsuits? Who knows. I always will err on the side of caution when it comes to believing anything that the government/FDA puts out about chemicals. DOW, Monsanto and the rest of the chemical companies have a huge " presence " with our government. I know the politics of chemical companies as I have worked for them and my husband currently works for one. Believe me when I say that they do not care one bit about the safety of the consumer or their workers. Getting fined $500,000 or even 1 million dollars, which most people think is a huge amount, is like them fining me $50. No big deal, just a slap on the wrist. We have been " taught " to believe that plant chemicals are safe. But the truth is that they may not be safe when they are synthetic---chemical processed---as this processing often adds chemicals that really are not safe in any shape or form. There are several ways to extract an oil or a wax from a plant, (eg. jojoba oil, evening primrose oil, shea butter, cocoa butter). It can be extracted with a solvent, which leaves toxic residues in the products, or by extremely high heat, which destroys the botanical properties associated with the plant, or by the cold-pressed method. If you are a consumer or a manufacturer, ask questions. How was the shea butter extracted? Are the oils cold-pressed? Is the vitamin E or glycerin synthetic or natural? Find out if the ingredients are organic. This is an extremely important issue, due to the very high toxicity level of pesticides that become concentrated in liquids extracted from plants. Look for the words 'cold-pressed' and 'organic' on labels, and if you don't see them, put the product down and keep looking. Ask questions to store owners, who in turn can call suppliers and manufacturers. Be aware of long words that you cannot pronounce that have the phrase " from coconut oil " in parentheses. Natural ingredients that are broken down chemically are no longer natural. Sodium Laureth Sulfate that comes from coconut oil is still an unhealthy product, despite its source. Kinesiology is good. But even the best kinesiologist can have a bad day and thus may have an effect on the outcome of who they practice on that day. Sometimes they don't even realize this. I have seen people that will swear by what their kinesiologist said and will not use a particular supplement or vitamin which their symptoms definitely indicate that they need. Again, certainly a person's choice, but I wouldn't bet the bank on it simply because it relies on a human---yes, even if you put the product in " your " hands, etc. Don't get me wrong, it can be used very effectively, but it also has its limits. Personally, I wouldn't use anything of Tom's of Main or Boiron simply because they evidently think it's ok to include ingredients that are not safe in some of their products. There are a lot of products in health food stores that I often wonder " how " they made it into the inventory. All I am saying is that I hope to encourage people to do their research and their homework. While we certainly want to be teachable, don't take what I say or anyone else says, but conduct your own research. Education empowers. Below is a list of different names for parabens and also an article about parabens and excessive aging. Loretta Lanphier The Synonyms for Parabens Isobutylparaben: Benzoic acid, 4-hydroxy-, 2-methylpropyl ester 4-Hydroxybenzoate d'isobutyle isobutyl 4-hydroxybenzoate Isobutyl-4-hydroxybenzoat 4-hidroxibenzoato de isobutilo 2-Methylpropyl p-hydroxybenzoate Benzoic acid, p-hydroxy-, isobutyl ester iso-Butyl p-hydroxybenzoate Isobutyl p-hydroxybenzoate p-Hydroxybenzoic acid isobutyl ester Butylparaben: Benzoic acid, 4-hydroxy-, butyl ester 4-Hydroxybenzoate de butyle butyl 4-hydroxybenzoate Butyl-4-hydroxybenzoat 4-hidroxibenzoato de butilo 4-Hydroxybenzoic acid butyl ester 4-hydroxybenzoesaeure-butylester benzoate, 4-hydroxy-, butyl p-oxybutylbenzoate 4-(Butoxycarbonyl)phenol Aseptoform Butyl Benzoic acid, p-hydroxy-, butyl ester Butyl p-hydroxybenzoate n-Butyl 4-hydroxybenzoate n-Butyl p-hydroxybenzoate n-Butylparabenp-Hydroxybenzoic acid butyl ester n-Propylparaben: Benzoic acid, 4-hydroxy-, propyl ester 4-Hydroxybenzoate de propyle propyl 4-hydroxybenzoate Propyl-4-hydroxybenzoat 4-hidroxibenzoato de propilo 4-Hydroxybenzoic acid propyl ester 4-hydroxybenzoesaeure-propylester 4-hydroxybenzoic acid propylester propyl p-hydroxybenzoate propyl paraben benzoate, 4-hydroxy-, propyl Benzoic acid, p-hydroxy-, propyl ester n-Propyl 4-hydroxybenzoate p-Hydroxybenzoic acid propyl ester p-Hydroxybenzoic acid, propyl ester p-Hydroxybenzoic propyl ester Ethylparaben: Benzoic acid, 4-hydroxy-, ethyl ester 4-Hydroxybenzoate d'ethyle ethyl 4-hydroxybenzoate Ethyl-4-hydroxybenzoat 4-hidroxibenzoato de etilo 4-hydroxybenzoesaeure-aethylester benzoate, 4-hydroxy-, ethyl ethylparaben ethyl parasept 4-(Ethoxycarbonyl)phenol 4-Carbethoxyphenol 4-Hydroxybenzoic acid ethyl ester Benzoic acid, p-hydroxy-, ethyl ester Ethyl p-hydroxybenzoate p-(Ethoxycarbonyl)phenol p-Carbethoxyphenol p-Hydroxybenzoate ethyl ester p-Hydroxybenzoic acid ethyl ester Methylparaben: Benzoic acid, 4-hydroxy-, methyl ester 4-Hydroxybenzoate de methyle methyl 4-hydroxybenzoate Methyl-4-hydroxybenzoat 4-Hidroxibenzoato de metilo 4-Hydroxybenzoic acid methyl ester 4-hydroxybenzoesaeure-methylester benzoate , 4-hydroxy-, methyl methyl p-hydroxybenzoate p-hydroxybenzoic acid methyl ester methyl paraben methyl ester of p-hydroxy benzoic acid 4-(Carbomethoxy)phenol 4-(Methoxycarbonyl)phenol Benzoic acid, p-hydroxy-, methyl ester Methylben Methylparaben p-Carbomethoxyphenol p-Methoxycarbonylphenol Parabens Linked to Excessive Aging of Skin By Simon Pitman 29/08/2005 - Researchers in Japan say that methylparaben, a commonly used antiseptic agent for a range of cosmetics products, may cause skin to age when it is exposed to ultraviolet rays. The ingredient, which has been connected to occasional skin allergies and skin sensitization in the past, is currently listed as appearing in 3,559 products in the Environmental Working Group's database of cosmetics products sold in the US. It is said to have a strong antibacterial effect, as well as providing a mild stimulation affect that can be beneficial to skin's health. It appears in a cross spectrum of products, including hair care, styling products and body scrubs. But researchers at the Kyoto Prefectural University of Medicine say that they are particularly concerned about a range of topical facial cosmetics products that are often used on a daily basis. Because the product is included in daily applied powders, foundations, sun milk, and, ironically, anti-ageing products the researchers are particularly concerned by their findings. " I think women should avoid strong and direct sunshine when wearing cosmetics containing methylparaben, " professor Toshikazu Yoshikawa told The Asahi Shimbun/ According to the newspaper report, researchers applied methylparaben to skin in similar amounts to that found in cosmetics products. The skin was then exposed to 30 millijoules of ultraviolet rays per square centimeter - an amount that is deemed to be about the average daily amount of exposure during summer weather. The researchers results showed that around 19 per cent of the exposed skin cells died, while the fatality rate for skin that did not contain methylparaben was about six per cent. Furthermore the amount of lipid peroxide - a substance that speeds up the ageing process - was said to be about three times the total of that found in the untreated skin cells. The researchers believe that these results would mean a higher rate of wrinkling, dark spots and other signs of ageing such as diminished skin tone. In the past the paraben chemical family has been linked to cancers - particularly breast cancer in women. As a result manufacturers have been progressively moving away from the chemical as ingredients providers strive to come up with alternatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Dear JoAnn, I alternate between Homeodent and a herbal toothpaste from Himalaya Health Care. I do have a neem tree in my backyard and fried neem leaves are a favourite with me. My mother will not allow me to use the twigs for brushing as she feels that it is unhygenic. She does use the leaf stems for removing food particles from the teeth however. There is another toothpaste in India, an ayurvedic formula called Dabur Red toothpaste that is very popular. Here many households have neem, drumstick, jackfruit, mango, guava, papaya, and banana plants in their house. If only they knew how to use them. And if also they would avoid the vaccinations. It is a real tragedy that India is a nation of sick people today. Our heritage was so rich with herbal remedies and health hints. Regards, Jagannath. , " JoAnn Guest " <angelprincessjo wrote: > > --- There are a number of effective toothpastes featured in vitamin > outlet and family health food stores, however my absolute favorite > is a homeopathic toothpaste identified as lemon " Homeodent " . I > wouldn't rely on any other product. Bioforce mouth wash contains > another good herbal combination for health teeth and gums. You are > doing yourself a favor if you rely on homeopathic formulas rather > than an untested product such as Tom's of Maine. Although on > literally every pharmacy shelf, they contain not one of the herbal > ingredients that contributes to healthy gums and teeth. > Tea tree oil and Neem are some other herbs which are beneficial for > fighting oral bacteria and tooth decay. Fluoride is not the answer > and the public is being deceived on this issue as on so many others. > Jagannath, I believe that India has the answers to healthy gums, > actually. I would like to have a Neem tree in my backyard (sigh) but > I guess I'll have to rely on Homeodent. :-) solution. Neem is the > most effective remedy for avoiding dental problems, and this is > according to the writings of James A. Dukes, Ph.D., former head of > the USDA Botanical Department. > > Blessings, > JoAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 , " jagchat01 " <jagchat01 wrote: > > > Dear JoAnn, > > I alternate between Homeodent and a herbal toothpaste from Himalaya Health Care. I do have a neem tree in my backyard and fried neem leaves are a favourite with me. My mother will not allow me to use the twigs for brushing as she feels that it is unhygenic. She does use the leaf stems for removing food particles from the teeth however. > There is another toothpaste in India, an ayurvedic formula called > Dabur Red toothpaste that is very popular. > > Here many households have neem, drumstick, jackfruit, mango, guava, papaya, and banana plants in their house. If only they knew how to use them. > > Regards, > Jagannath. Hi Jagannath! Thanks for this. So many health articles outline the benefits of the Neem twigs and I have read that India has literally no dental problems because of their reliance on these naturallly occurring componenets. This is amazing! It seems we are missing something over here in our civilized routines... i.e. brushing, flossing, etc. This is incredible that there are so many benefits from tree branches. There may be a way to sterilize them. :-) Would you consider sending one in its natural form for a fee? It is also very interesting to know that the leaves of the Neem plant are edible. What exactly are the health benefits involved in eating them? Also I would be interested to know the ingredients in the Himalaya Health Care toothpastes and Dabur Red Toothpaste. The various combinations of herbs in natural products are intriguing to me but I have yet to discover one with all the effective components combined. Also, while I have your attention I'm wondering... are you aware of an eggplant dental powder and how effective it is for dental hygiene? Eden foods offers an eggplant powder and I'm quite interested in this. I believe this is a Japanese or asian remedy although they offer little or no accompanying research on the product they offer for sale. Regards, JoAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 , " Dr. Loretta Lanphier " <LorettaLanphier wrote: > > Hi JoAnn > I was just sending the ingredient list in for education purposes only as most probably don't know the ingredients. ) > Many companies will market their ingredients as " safe " and " natural " because?....they realize that " natural " and " organic " are the new buzz words. The line between what is organic, all- natural, etc. and what is not is smudged, at best. But don't be fooled as the big cosmetic and food corporations hope this is what will happen. Many of the large food companies are trying to get the FDA to allow them to include a few specific chemicals and still be able to label the food as organic. Again, they realize how huge the organic and all-natural market truly is, but as usual they would like for everyone to play by their rules while they pocket all the profits. > Hi Loretta, Thanks for the wealth of valuable information. Apparently you have spent hours researching. Thankfully, the chemicals in mainstream cosmetics are not an issue with me as I discontinued their use years previous. To my knowledge many of the mainstream cosmetics, especially cover girl are directly linked to breast cancer! Actually, even although you eliminate the Phalates (sp?) and some of the more harmful chemicals just with use of the commercial face creams one is in danger. My daughter uses the commercial skin creams ,liberally, without regard to their dangers and I fear for her safety. The health risks are not worth it in my mind! I am convinced that they will only make a lovely corpse, lovelier, and am convinced that many of these chemical ingredients are providing fuel for the breast cancer epidemic in our younger ladies. It concerns me that many " natural " cosmetics are so lacking and simply not very effective. In experimenting with several shampoos from health food stores, you would do well to work up a lather. :-) One exception is Aubrey Organics. Their products are exceptionally good, I know. On the other hand, my sister uses tea tree face cream from the health food stores, in spite of my frequent warnings that tea tree should not be used near the eyes. I certainly would never risk it! Blessings, JoAnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 This is a basic misunderstanding most people have about saving their teeth. Toothpastes are not the answer. This is a misleading approach. We need to disorganize and remove bacterial plaque with flossing, with the proper floss in the proper manner (The Bass Technique) and proper tooth brushing. Toothpastes have nice ingredients to help, but they are inadequate for the procedure - and worse, they can lead one to believe his or her teeth are clean. But toothpastes will NOT remove growing plaque germ colonies or have any lasting effect upon them. We have a short report on this that we'd be willing to send you if you reply to jmittelman with your street of po-box address. Jerry Mittelman, DDS, FAPM - JoAnn Guest Sunday, July 30, 2006 5:14 PM Re: live more safely --- There are a number of effective toothpastes featured in vitamin outlet and family health food stores, however my absolute favorite is a homeopathic toothpaste identified as lemon " Homeodent " . I wouldn't rely on any other product. Bioforce mouth wash contains another good herbal combination for health teeth and gums. You are doing yourself a favor if you rely on homeopathic formulas rather than an untested product such as Tom's of Maine. Although on literally every pharmacy shelf, they contain not one of the herbal ingredients that contributes to healthy gums and teeth. Tea tree oil and Neem are some other herbs which are beneficial for fighting oral bacteria and tooth decay. Fluoride is not the answer and the public is being deceived on this issue as on so many others. Jagannath, I believe that India has the answers to healthy gums, actually. I would like to have a Neem tree in my backyard (sigh) but I guess I'll have to rely on Homeodent. :-) solution. Neem is the most effective remedy for avoiding dental problems, and this is according to the writings of James A. Dukes, Ph.D., former head of the USDA Botanical Department. Blessings, JoAnn In , " patram81 " <patram81 wrote: > > I know someone whose family uses plain old baking soda. > > , " I. Crawford " > <willow.myst@> wrote: > > > > What other toothpastes would you suggest? I've been a user of > Tom's of > > Maine for years and after reading your post realize there is sodium > lauryl > > sulfate in it. > > > > Ilene > > - > > " Jerry Mittelman " <jmittelman@ > > > > > > > Is There Triclosan in Your Toothpaste? > > > > > > Watch out for this chemical. It's included in 'germ killing' > tooth-pastes, > > > mouthwashes, deodorants, soaps, on and on. But is it safe? > > > > > > The EPA sees it as a pesticide and a high risk factor to human > health. > > > Triclosan is in a class of chemicals suspected of causing cancer > in > > > humans. Stored in body fat, it can accumulate to toxic levels, > damaging > > > the liver, kidneys, and lungs, and can suppress your immune > function. > > > > > > A popular 'holistic' toothpaste contains sodium lauryl sulfate, > another > > > toxic chemical. Look at the 'ingredients' list of your tooth- > paste to be > > > sure you don't expose yourself to it. > > > > > > A word to the wise: Prevention! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 I have used hydrogen peroxide, salt, and water for years. An old fashioned pharmacist taught me to do that and I haven’t had any trips to the Dentist in over 30 years. I don’t have the whitest teeth; but I still have all my teeth and no problems with them. Michael On Behalf Of Jerry Mittelman Monday, July 31, 2006 2:16 PM Re: Re: live more safely This is a basic misunderstanding most people have about saving their teeth. Toothpastes are not the answer. This is a misleading approach. We need to disorganize and remove bacterial plaque with flossing, with the proper floss in the proper manner (The Bass Technique) and proper tooth brushing. Toothpastes have nice ingredients to help, but they are inadequate for the procedure - and worse, they can lead one to believe his or her teeth are clean. But toothpastes will NOT remove growing plaque germ colonies or have any lasting effect upon them. We have a short report on this that we'd be willing to send you if you reply to jmittelman <jmittelman%40nyc.rr.com> with your street of po-box address. Jerry Mittelman, DDS, FAPM - JoAnn Guest <%40> Sunday, July 30, 2006 5:14 PM Re: live more safely --- There are a number of effective toothpastes featured in vitamin outlet and family health food stores, however my absolute favorite is a homeopathic toothpaste identified as lemon " Homeodent " . I wouldn't rely on any other product. Bioforce mouth wash contains another good herbal combination for health teeth and gums. You are doing yourself a favor if you rely on homeopathic formulas rather than an untested product such as Tom's of Maine. Although on literally every pharmacy shelf, they contain not one of the herbal ingredients that contributes to healthy gums and teeth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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