A Proposed Experimental/Theoretical, Noninvasive, Non-pharmaceutical, In Viv

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The proposed protocols are for treating a disease state, (a person who

is sick) not for treating a healthy individual. When someone has an

infection of some type, the infection needs to be treated first, then

other things like probiotics need to be used to correct bacterial,

yeast, etc. conditions. If someone is very sick or dieing of disease

from some invading organism, the first thing to do is stop the

invading organism if you can.

 

 

Your example although technically orrect, would using your logic lead

to treating improperly such as.... No, we can not treat for the polio

virus, cancer, or other damaging organisms because our reason is that

we do not want to harm any " good " bacteria. I think that it would be

ridiculus to say, " no, do not kill the polio virus, cancer, etc " .

 

Herbs and vitamins also can kill both invading organisms and so called

good bacteria, and we are not so foolish enough as to say do not use

them because we might damage the good bacteria if we kill the bad ones..

 

 

Probiotics should be taken in the diet continually whether sick or

well, but especially when sick.

 

you said:

electric current at different intensities (amperes?) Please read the

article again. I believe it states different " frequencies " not amperes.

 

As with all information posted here, it must be evaluated to use and

also the individual situation. Any tool is to be used appropriately as to it's

ability, not one versus another.

 

The goal usually is to help others get well, not to try and win a technical

point in an argument.

 

Frank

 

 

 

, psych doc

<psych_58 wrote:

>

> I have my 2-cent worth contribution to this:

>

> The use of electric current for killing viruses and

> bacteria and even parasites was pioneered by Hulda

> Clark and she has published a book on this. Her

> seminal discovery (she is a microbiologist) is that

> electric current at different intensities (amperes?)

> kills different organisms. So, the amperes for virus

> is different than for bacteria and so on. So, the

> electric current at low amperes is not harmful to us

> but will kill the virus in us. So far so good. Fine as

> a theory. But here comes my attack:

> The electric current will kill the friendly pro-biotic

> bacteria in our intestines alongwith the harmful

> bacteria, much as the antibiotics do.

> Ratan.

> --- califpacific <califpacific wrote:

>

> >

>

http://www.toolsforhealing.com/CD/Articles/B/BobBeck/BobBeckIn-VivoArticle.html

> >

> > Bob Beck In-Vivo Article

> > by Robert C. Beck, D.Sc.

> > Monday, December 15, 1997

> >

> >

> > A Proposed Experimental/Theoretical, Noninvasive,

> > Non-pharmaceutical,

> > In Vivo Method for Rapid Neutralization of HIV Virus

> > in Human Subjects

> >

> > Revision September 26, 1995

> >

> > In a remarkable discovery at Albert Einstein College

> > of Medicine,

> > N.Y.C. in 1990, it was shown that a minute current

> > (50 to 100 MICRO

> > amperes) can alter outer protein layers of HIV virus

> > in a petri dish

> > so as to prevent its subsequent attachment to

> > receptor sites. (SCIENCE

> > NEWS, March 30, 1991 page 207.) It may also reverse

> > Epstein Barr

> > (chronic fatigue syndrome), hepatitis, and herpes B.

> > HIV positive

> > users of this enclosed information may expect a

> > NEGATIVE p24 surface

> > antigen or PCR test (no more HIV detectable in

> > blood) after 30 days.

> > This is reminiscent of a well proven cure for

> > snakebite by application

> > of electric current that instantly neutralizes the

> > venom's toxicity.

> > (LANCET, July 26, 1986, page 229.) And there may be

> > several other as

> > yet undiscovered or untested viruses neutralizable

> > with this discovery.

> >

> > This very simple blood clearing treatment offered

> > great promise as a

> > positive method for immobilizing known strains of

> > HIV still present

> > and contaminating some European and US blood bank

> > reserve supplies. It

> > was further suggested that infected human HIV

> > carriers could be cured

> > by removing their blood, treating it electrically

> > and returning it by

> > methods similar to dialysis. Dr. Steven Kaali, MD,

> > projected that

> > " years of testing will be in order before such an IN

> > VITRO (blood

> > removed for treatment) device can be made ready for

> > widespread use "

> > (LONGEVITY, Dec. 1992, page 14.) This paper reveals

> > a " do-it-yourself "

> > approach for healing INVOLVING NO MEDICAL COSTS or

> > dialysis.

> >

> > In the writer's opinion both blood and lymph can be

> > cleared IN VIVO

> > (which means blood isn't removed) simply, rapidly,

> > and inexpensively

> > with similar but NON-INVASIVE techniques described

> > herein. All are

> > fully disclosed in this paper. This paper includes

> > all necessary

> > schematics, parts lists, and instructions.

> > Electronic and controlled

> > electroporation approaches may well make vaccines

> > (even if possible

> > someday), pharmaceuticals, supplements, oxygen and

> > diet therapies,

> > plus other proposed remedies obsolete, even if they

> > worked and were free.

> >

> > In a public lecture (Oct. 19, 1991) the writer's

> > opinion proposed this

> > theoretical do-it-yourself method for accomplishing

> > HIV

> > " neutralization " IN VIVO. Subsequently, his original

> > modalities and

> > protocols have been extensively peer reviewed,

> > refined, simplified and

> > made universally affordable (under $75 for BOTH

> > devices including

> > batteries when self-made). These two simple

> > treatments used in tandem

> > can potentially nullify well over 95% (and perhaps

> > 100%) of known HIV

> > strains residing in BOTH blood, lymph, and other

> > body tissue and

> > fluids. Following is a summary of two years of

> > offshore feedback with

> > this non-iatrogenic, do-it yourself, simple and

> > inexpensive

> > experimental solution to the ever escalating AIDS

> > dilemma. There are

> > no known side effects since milliampere currents are

> > much lower than

> > those in FDA approved TENS, CES and muscle

> > stimulators which have been

> > in daily use for many years. Battery replacement

> > costs are under 25¢

> > per month per user or about 1¢ per day for a typical

> > 21 day

> > " spontaneous remission " . No doctors,

> > pharmaceuticals, ozone, or other

> > intervention appears necessary.

> >

> > The pocket-sized, battery-powered, BLOOD clearing

> > instrument is

> > basically a miniature relay driven by a timer chip

> > set to ~0.67 Hertz.

> > Its 0 to 36V user adjustable biphasic output

> > minimizes electrode site

> > irritation. The described system delivers

> > stimulation through NORMALLY

> > CIRCULATING BLOOD via electrodes placed at selected

> > sites (such as one

> > electrode behind ankle bone on inside of foot and

> > another identically

> > located on opposite foot) over the sural, popliteal,

> > posterior tibial,

> > or peronal arteries where the subjects' veins and

> > arteries are

> > accessibly close to the surface. (SEE GRAY ANATOMY

> > DIAGRAMS) Optimum

> > electrode positions are reliably located by feeling

> > pulse. (SEE

> > SUGGESTIONS FOR ACQUIRING AND USING AN INDUCTIVELY

> > COUPLED MAGENTIC

> > PULSE GENERATOR FOR THEORETICAL LYMPH AND TISSUE HIV

> > NEUTRALIZATION.)

> > Micro current treatment is of such low amplitude

> > that it creates no

> > discomfort when used as directed and is demonstrated

> > to have no

> > harmful side effects on healthy blood cells or

> > tissue. A major

> > obstacle to this simple and obvious solution is

> > disbelief, and

> > subjects must assume responsibility for their own

> > health -- a " heresy "

> > in today's society where we're conditioned to look

> > for answers only to

> > a medical establishment that has no current

> > knowledge remotely

> > promising " cures " for numerous well known terminal

> > diseases.