Guest guest Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 From SpidelBlog http://spidel.net/blog/?p=660 Would love your thoughts about this. The Third Party movement folks sent this to me this morning. If you all want to know what I feel about third party movements in the current climate you can read here: http://spidel.net/blog/?p=638 But, these two articles did indeed catch my eye: From the Los Angeles Times Neocons in the Democratic Party Like Kennedy and Truman, Democratic neocons want to beef up the military and won’t run from a fight. By Jacob Heilbrunn Jacob Heilbrunn, a former Times editorial writer, is writing a book on neoconservatism. May 28, 2006 DON’T LOOK now, but neoconservatism is making a comeback — and not among the Republicans who have made it famous but in the Democratic Party. A host of pundits and young national security experts associated with the party are calling for a return to the Cold War precepts of President Truman to wage a war against terror that New Republic Editor Peter Beinart, in the title of his provocative new book, calls “The Good Fight.” The fledgling neocons of the left are based at places such as the Progressive Policy Institute, whose president, Will Marshall, has just released a volume of doctrine called “With All Our Might: A Progressive Strategy for Defeating Jihadism and Defending Liberty.” Beinart’s book is subtitled “Why Liberals — and Only Liberals — Can Win the War on Terror and Make America Great Again.” Their political champions include Connecticut Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman and such likely presidential candidates as former Virginia Gov. Mark Warner and Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack, who is chairman of the Democratic Leadership Council. This new crop of liberal hawks calls for expanding the existing war against terrorism, beefing up the military and promoting democracy around the globe while avoiding the anti-civil liberties excesses of the Bush administration. They support a U.S. government that would seek multilateral consensus before acting abroad, but one that is not scared to use force when necessary. These Democrats want to be seen as anything but the squishes who have led the party to defeat in the past. Interestingly, that’s how the early neocons saw themselves too: as liberals fighting to reclaim their party’s true heritage — before they decamped to the GOP in the 1980s. Indeed, the credo of the new Democratic hawks is eerily reminiscent of the neocons of the 1970s, who ran a full-page ad in the New York Times called “Come Home, Democrats” after George McGovern’s crushing defeat, in a play on his campaign slogan “Come Home, America.” In it, early neocons such as Jeane Kirkpatrick and Norman Podhoretz called for a return to the principles of — you guessed it — Truman and President Kennedy. They lamented the fact that their party had been taken over by the forces backing McGovern’s run for the presidency in 1972 and wanted to purge the party of the McGovernites. They didn’t want self-abasement about U.S. sins abroad but a vigorous fighting faith that promoted the American creed of liberty and human rights abroad and at home. Now, a generation later, as the crusading Republican neoconservatism espoused by Weekly Standard Editor William Kristol and others lies in the smoking rubble of Baghdad, a new generation of Democrats wants to dust off and rehabilitate those traditional Democratic principles, which they believe were hijacked by the Bush administration. They want, in essence, to return to the beliefs that originally brought the neocons to prominence, the beliefs that motivated old-fashioned Cold War liberals such as Democratic Sen. Henry “Scoop” Jackson. Where will all this lead? To an internecine Democratic war, of course. Just as Republicans are being riven by debates between realists and Bush administration idealists, so the Democratic Party is about to witness its own battle. Just as the old neocons wanted to expel the McGovernites, so the new ones want to rid the party of the Moveon.org types and move it to the right. As Beinart puts it, “whatever its failings, the right at least knows that America’s enemies need to be fought.” In “With All Our Might,” scholars Larry Diamond and Michael McFaul — both Democrats — outline a comprehensive democracy-promotion program. For example, they imaginatively call for transplanting the 1975 Helsinki accords, which insisted upon human rights monitoring in the former Warsaw Pact nations, to the Middle East. “Freedom,” they exhort, “is the fundamental antidote to all forms of tyranny, terror and oppression.” Other Democrats, who call themselves the “Sept. 11 generation,” have formed what is known as the Truman National Security Project, whose avowed aim is to revive the “strong security, strong values of the Democratic Party — for Democrats of all ages.” Does this simply sound like Bush-lite? To the right and the left, it probably will, but the main opposition facing the would-be Truman successors will come from the latter. The battle will come from the generation of Democrats who came of age during the 1960s and who were instrumental in finishing off “Cold War liberalism” because of its failures in the jungles of Vietnam. Vietnam, remember, was a liberal, not a conservative, war, undertaken by warrior intellectuals who were liberal at home but saw falling dominoes everywhere around the world. (The same lack of nuance plagues the Bush administration, which has been trying to depict a global kind of Islamic totalitarianism, when the foe, as in the Cold War, is really more diffuse and less of a monolith than American leaders are prepared to believe.) The Moveon.org types are hardly prepared to go down without a fight. At the moment, with no end to the imbroglio in Iraq in sight, they — the populist left — are poised for their greatest influence in the party since the McGovern era. The new Democratic hawks, like the old neoconservatives of the 1970s, represent an insurgency, a direct challenge to the establishment. And if they are to revamp the party, they will have to do a lot more than simply evoke the ghost of Truman and Co. PNAC Co-Founder Endorses Dems in ‘08 by BooMan Sun May 28th, 2006 at 08:31:22 PM EST Robert Kagan is the co-founder with William Kristol of the Project for the New American Century and he thinks it will be better for America if the Democrats win the 2008 contest for the Presidency. If that surprises you, you haven’t been paying attention. As far as the PNAC crew goes, power isn’t about being a Republican or a Democrat, it’s about owning both parties. And, fortunately for us, Kagan is spectacularly upfront about this. To understand his mindset it’s important to understand that he doesn’t divide the world up into left and right, but into interventionist and isolationist. Kagan has representatives in the Democratic Party. They can loosely be described as the members of the Democratic Leadership Council and the writers at The New Republic. These opinion leaders consider America to be the ‘indispensable nation’ and they consider it vital to world peace and security that America maintain its role in the world. For example, it’s critical that we maintain military bases from Okinawa, to Tashkent, to Kandahar, to Baku, to Turkey, Baghdad, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, Dubai, to Eritrea. From the outside, it looks like they benefit from their association or investments in the companies that do business in those countries, or the companies that arm our military to defend themselves in foreign lands and equip our home defenses to protect against the resentment our occupations cause. But, from the inside, it’s more complicated. It’s about the evils of communism, or fascism, or Islamo-fascism, or whatever is required as a rhetorical tool next week.The way Kagan sees it is actually quite interesting to read. He thinks it is natural for a party too long out of power to become accustomed to opposing our foreign policy and therefore drift into a dangerous isolationism. Of course, it isn’t entirely clear for whom this drift presents a danger. It’s certainly not a threat to the American taxpayer, just for one example. But, it is definitely a threat to those that make their living hawking military and homeland security equipment. That’s why Kagan says the following: The next president, whether Democrat or Republican, may work better with allies and may be more clever in negotiating with adversaries. But the realities of the world are what they are, and the imperatives of U.S. foreign policy are what they are. The diffuse threats of the post-Cold War world simply don’t unite and energize our European allies as the Soviet Union did, and even a dedicated “multilateralist” won’t be able to get them to spend more money on defense or stop buying oil from Iran. A smarter negotiating strategy toward Iran might or might not make a difference in stopping its weapons program. Soft power will go only so far in dealing with problems such as North Korea and Sudan.In fact, the options open to any new administration are never as broad as its supporters imagine, which is why, historically, there is more continuity than discontinuity in American foreign policy. If the Democrats did take office in 2009, their approach to the post-Sept. 11 world would be marginally different but not stunningly different from Bush’s. And they would have to sell that not stunningly different set of policies to their own constituents. Kagan is part of a literal cabal of people in Washington (in Congress, in thinktanks, in this case, the Washington Post’s editorial pages) that assure that any new administration’s ‘options’ are limited and that their approach will not be stunningly different from Bush’s. These are the folks that brought you the stalemated Korean War and the need for permanent bases in the south, the disastrous Vietnam War, the Committee on the Present Danger, and Team B. They employ journalists like Judith Miller to write about anthrax, and journalists like Peter Beinert to advocate a tougher foreign policy line from Democrats. They love and contibute to politicians like Joe Lieberman, Joe Biden, Diane Feinstein, and Jane Harman. As long as they can control the debate, assure a centrist nominee from the Democrats, and keep the level of fear in the public high, their racket is safe, even if the people in the World Trade Center were not. Some may see this as a typical leftist critique. But it’s more than that. This is how Washington works, how power wields itself, how the Democrats are co-opted, and how we keep repeating our mistakes by involving ourselves in costly foreign entanglements. Perhaps the most flamboyant and successful of their campaigns was the one they used to convince us that we defeated the Soviet Union through military spending. It had nothing to do with the superior example our society made to the world through our civil liberties, personal freedoms, prosperity, and human rights advocacy. Nor did it have anything to do with the Soviets poor example and lack of these things. No, no. We brought the Soviets to their knees by spending billions on a failed missile shield and the V-22 Osprey. Ask yourself something. How much did the wars and proxy war in Korea, Vietnam, Angola, Cuba, Nicaragua, Iran, Guatemala, Chile, Argentina, and Grenada do to contribute to the demise of the Soviet Union? How is Iraq helping today? Being out of power for a while does tend to focus the mind when you ask yourself that question. And that is a major threat to people like Kagan. That is why at least half of PNAC now considers it desirable that a Democrat (like Hillary or Biden or Richardson or Bayh or Vilsack or Warner) becomes the next President. They think they can control them, and they are probably right. The Democrats need to take ownership of American foreign policy again, for their sake as well as the country’s. Long stretches in opposition sometimes drive parties toward defeatism, utopianism, isolationism or permutations of all three. What starts off as legitimate attacks on the inevitable errors of the party in power can veer off into a wholesale rejection of the opposition party’s own foreign policy principles. It’s precisely the foreign policy principles of our nation’s leaders and arms merchants that have led us to where we are today, and it is precisely the utopianism of the Project for a New American Century and their neo-conservative allies that litter the halls of power that has undermined the consensus for permawar and a permawar footing among the left. Kagan gives away the game in this column. His assumption is that the causes of threats to the homeland have no causal basis in American imperialism, occupation, or double standards. The only potential cause for a threat comes from those that don’t advocate doing more of the same, spending more of the same, and doing it with more bellicosity, fewer allies, and less national unanimity. At least, it seems that way. But, in reality, it’s more complicated. How can you explain that a man that was Deputy for Policy under Bush-pere-pardoned Elliott Abrams, Principal Speechwriter for Secretary George Schultz and foreign policy advisor to Jack Kemp would write a column advocating the Republicans be swept out of the White House? The answer is that he fears the Democrats will move so far to the left if they do not elect a DLC Democrat in 2008 that it will endanger the consensus within this country that allows us maintain bases all throughout Asia and an enormous military budget. Somewhere in the depths of his mind, Kagan probably is asking the same questions we are asking. Isn’t is possible that we could erode the theat of terrorism more effectively, and at an acceptable cost in treasure, by finding a new consensus within the community of representative democracies and advanced economies of the world? One that isn’t opposed by everyone but the bribed and the coerced? One that shares the burdens of collective security, as well as the limitations of international organizations and efforts? One that might limit the scope of American power but also its attendant blowback? It must have occurred to Kagan, and he knows it is occurring to a growing majority of the left. Kagan throws this heretical thinking aside and states: …the imperatives of U.S. foreign policy are what they are. The diffuse threats of the post-Cold War world simply don’t unite and energize our European allies as the Soviet Union did… In other words, this Zarqawi/Zawahiri/bin-Laden bullshit just isn’t working with the left, and if we don’t give them a Hillary or Biden or Lieberman to rally around, they’ll leave the reservation for good.Better to avoid permanently losing one of two American power parties than for the GOP to win in ‘08. What better example could we have of what’s at stake, who’s on our side, and how big our potential for positive change really is. Still, it is amusing to see that at the very moment when hawkish realists are trying to extirpate the neocon credo in the Republican Party, it’s being revived in the Democratic Party that first brought it to life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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